From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Paul Kolk

Scotland’s last remaining oil refinery – Grangemouth – is to shut, we learned last week, with the loss of 400 jobs.
The plant – co-owned by Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s Ineos – is closing due to the UK’s incoming ban on new petrol and diesel cars to hit net zero targets.
Grangemouth produces most of the petrol, diesel, heating oil and aviation fuel used in Scotland, Northern England and Northern Ireland. The closure, said Ineos, reflected lower fuel demand given the “ban on new petrol and diesel cars due to come into force”.
While Sharon Graham, general secretary of Unite, accused Grangemouth’s “billionaire owners” of “industrial vandalism”, she also highlighted the car ban. “The road to net zero cannot be paid for with workers’ jobs,” said the boss of Britain’s second-biggest union.
Along with Grangemouth, the Government recently confirmed the closure of the last two blast furnaces at the iconic Port Talbot steelworks, resulting in 2,500 more layoffs.
Labour’s green policies are “hollowing out working-class communities”, said Gary Smith, the leader of GMB, Britain’s third-biggest union. The Government, he said, must stop “decarbonisation through deindustrialisation”.
At last week’s Trades Union Congress conference, Unite and GMB highlighted union concerns about the route to “net zero” – a journey Labour is determined to pursue more doggedly than the Tories.
The two unions pushed through a joint motion opposing Labour’s incoming ban on new North Sea drilling licences, championed by Energy Secretary Ed Miliband.
They want “cast-iron” guarantees for the workers affected – some 30,000 off-shore North Sea oil and gas jobs, plus another 200,000 or so along the UK’s oil and gas supply chain.
Graham evoked the coal mine closures of the 1980s. “Unite will not stand by and watch those workers becoming the miners of our generation,” she said, one of Britain’s most powerful union barons raising the spectre of Thatcher-era industrial relations, marred by chaos and violence, barely two months into the first Labour Government for 14 years.
Attention has lately focused on the row between Downing Street and the Labour Left over the means-testing of pensioners’ winter fuel payments – complaints Downing Street has largely waved away.
But there are signs of a much more substantial, long-term conflict, as the existential industrial cost of the UK’s bid to hit legally binding “net zero carbon emissions” target by 2050 comes into sharper focus.
Grangemouth and Port Talbot are just the latest in a growing list of closures linked to net zero at plants that have long provided decent, well-paid jobs in parts of the country where such jobs are hard to come by.
The destruction of the UK’s North Sea oil and gas operations, and the huge range of related activities, will cause enormous industrial tensions – exposing the chasm between Labour’s relatively wealthy, often urban-based “environmental” voters and its traditional base.
Already, there is growing awareness among voters that “net zero” is aggravating the cost of living crisis. Yes, the UK boasts a relatively high share of what Miliband insists on calling “cheap renewables” – which produced around two-fifths of our electricity over recent months.
But the subsidies involved, added to bills, mean despite the growing use of renewables, or even because of it, UK firms and households are paying almost the highest electricity prices in Europe.
Unless net zero starts delivering soon for ordinary people, instead of just adding to their financial burden, the consensus to pursue the 2050 targets – taken for granted by much of our political and media class – could come under serious pressure.
And as trade unions fight for tens of thousands of blue-collar jobs during Sir Keir Starmer’s “first term”, the resulting environmental-industrial conflicts could tear the Labour movement apart.
The first big test is the incoming ban, from 2035, across Britain and the European Union, on new petrol and diesel cars – with second-hand sales remaining legal.
The Labour manifesto pledged to bring that forward to 2030 – which I strongly suspect won’t happen. I predict the 2035 deadline will slip as well.
Why? Because consumer take-up of electric vehicles (EVs) is far lower than forecast and imposing the planned ban could destroy much of the UK car industry, which employs around a million people – while handing vast swathes of our car market to massively subsidised EVs made in China, which already accounts for around 60pc of global production.
UK car sales, up around 3pc over the last year, remain 15pc lower than before lockdown. Within that, EV sales have slumped, with their market share stuck at around 18pc for the last three years.
Last week I interviewed Robert Forrester, co-founder and chief executive of Vertu Motors – one of the UK’s biggest car retailers – for The Telegraph’s Planet Normal podcast. He described how the incoming petrol and diesel ban is already impacting sales.
That’s because manufacturers, since January, face fines if 22pc of the cars they sell in Britain aren’t fully electric – paying £15,000 for every vehicle by which they fall short. The target ratchets up to 28pc next year and is expected to hit 80pc by 2030 – even if the complete ban remains at 2035.
Forrester describes how this will lead to the “rationing” of petrol and diesel cars as the ban approaches, with prices soaring as low EV sales mean manufacturers can only avoid ruinous fines by dramatically curtailing petrol and diesel car production.
He is just the latest senior car industry figure to highlight the dangers of a rapid switch to EVs – joining bosses at Ford, Stellantis and Renault.
Governments in the UK and across Europe face a mighty industrial battle over the coming years to push through net zero policies, in the teeth of trade union and popular resistance which is certain to grow.
With each high-profile plant closure, the intensity of that fight ratchets up.
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Does the political class in the UK not read their own opinion surveys. They all say the same, people agree with environmental concerns and the actions required but are not prepared for themselves to have to pay for the solutions.
So best option is to do nothing, take the flack from the greenies but stay in power as the economy thrives.
Its the Economy Stupid.
The political class tells people what they can and cannot do, what they should eat etc etc etc
They, er, know best…
We’ve forgotten that politicians are supposed to carry out our wishes, not we their’s.
To be fair, the plant at the refinery at Grangemouth is almost at the end of its working life and to replace it with modern plant would be very expensive.
Also all the other oil and chemical plants at Grangemouth will continue to operate normally, i.e. the Forties Pipeline complex , the chemical operations which employ thousands of workers and so on.
And of course Ineos only owns half of the refinery, the other half is owned by the Chinese Government. One question which is never answered is ” Who is calling the shots here? “
Does one really need to ask the question when the answer is very well known?
Replacing an old plant with a modern one would be worth it if you had things that used your product. With no gas or diesel vehicles you’re losing money.
Of what use are the other oil and chemical plants at Grangemouth if there is no inexpensive oil or gas as feedstock?
Even the Chinese can operate at a loss for so long before they call it quits.
The feedstock comes ashore via the Forties Pipeline System which will continue to operate normally, or it will be brought in by ship as happens already for scarce items.
And certainly diesel will be around for a long time. Can you imagine a battery operated bulldozer or combine harvester? Not to mention small vessels like fishing boats.
I believe them when they say “no fossil fuel vehicles” and diesel is a fossil fuel according to them. Once you start bringing by ship you increase expense. As I understand it Britain is going to shut down all natural gas and stop oil in North Sea. If supply is eliminated then what good is a refinery or chemical plant.
There is already a shipping company advertising carbon free oceanic transportation. Meaning sail boats.
What will the government do when “second hand cars” with low mileage are imported from the former nearby colonies? People travel abroad, buy a used car and bring it back to England.
They might ban new FF car sales in 2030, but there will still be a [legal] second hand market
But then there might not be any gas- er…uh… petrol available for those cars.
Knowing our lot, there won’t be any gas after 2028
I can see a bout of [very] dynamic pricing coming in on the back of Parliament’s green fanaticism.
As for the brothers (and sisters), they are in for a nasty shock. They are beginning, albeit far too late, to see the writing on the wall: For every so-called ‘green’ job there are hundreds of redundancies. That is a fact of green life. And having been gung-ho themselves about ‘thousands’ of green jobs…
One hopes they do get their act together before over 30,000 jobs go in the North sea industry – not to mention the knock on to suppliers, communities etc.
If you haven’t got a job there’s no need to escape the 15 minute gulags…
“The road to net zero cannot be paid for with workers’ jobs,”
But that is what will happen…Those who still have real productive jobs (doing something constructive and sweaty that others are willing to pay for with their saved up sweat) will pay the taxpayer subsidized payments that their next door neighbor receives for his new job being an internet fact checker or solar panel squeegee worker. When somewhere over 50% of household income finally comes from the smoke-and-mirrors central planers, a small ripple of discontent somewhere can easily cause some kind of economic system collapse comparable to the Great Depression or the Weimar Republic….Then the central planners will double down and insist on twice as much central planning and twice as many people to do it, and twice as many inspectors and police to ensure compliance to their edicts….all jobs that must be paid for somehow by steadily declining group of productive workers, or printing money that steadily causes decline in the value of. the currency….
And you can’t afford the upkeep on a car.
“The two unions pushed through a joint motion opposing Labour’s incoming ban …”
Do the actual laborers (and their families) vote, in block, against Labour, or will the laborers simply get what they have been supporting & see 60,000 jobs disappear?
Are you guys really so f’n balkanized that you actually refuse to protect yourselves?
It is worth remembering (or learning for the first time) that Labour governments closed more than twice as many coal mines as Thatcher did.
Labour has a considerable history of deindustrialization, whether on purpose or by accident.
The unions could have a good long think about who they should be financing.
“”Labour governments closed more than twice as many coal mines as Thatcher did.””
This is very, very true, and another little reported/known fact that is highly relevant today has gone under the radar. Housing. Something we’re rather short of.
It is an incredible fact that Margaret Thatcher’s government(s) built far more social housing than Bliar’s new dawn, new socialist, new Jerusalem, New Labour:
“”New Labour built an average of 562 council houses per year. And Mrs Thatcher’s Conservatives? 41,343. “”
https://fullfact.org/economy/who-built-more-council-houses-margaret-thatcher-or-new-labour/
Did I mention Bliar opening the floodgates?
Labour’s green policies are “hollowing out working-class communities”, said Gary Smith, the leader of GMB, Britain’s third-biggest union. The Government, he said, must stop “decarbonisation through deindustrialisation”.
Isn´t deindustrialisation the goal of the green elites?
With the current advances in EV technology, ICE cars will look to us like these in a few years:
Nobody is going to buy one. And no one who produces them will make money.
Consumers who lease cars during these three-year periods effectively cover the value of losses through monthly payments, which are calculated based on estimates of how much a vehicle is expected to depreciate.
But in the past two years, the typical amount of “residual value” left over at the end of an EV car’s lease has plunged from 60pc to 35pc, the BVRLA said.
This means a car worth £50,000 when new will now drop to £17,500 in value over three years, instead of £30,000.
This leaves leasing companies facing unexpected losses.
Early to the sauce I see. [hic]
Show us the plans for your flying EV’s. Anything less wouldn’t be at all futuristic
“And no one who produces them will make money.”
You are talking about EVs.. right !!
If you were awake and had a brain, you would notice EV sales are plummeting around the world/
EV factories shutting down.. Big manufacturers shutting down their EV builds.
You should have commented in the “Climate Anxiety & the Kid” thread
At least might be something you know something about.
I was at a dealer this weekend. The manager said the EVs are not selling much at all. Customers just don’t want them.
Username you are truly amazing. How can you be so wrong about so much for so long but you keep plugging.
At least you make me laugh.
Peddle your crap elsewhere
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On and a mine to graveyard basis, EV CO2 is much higher than of gasoline cars, over the life of the car, at most 8 years, or 80,000 miles, whichever comes first.
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How many 8-y EVs are still on the road?
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FROM:
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El Niños, Hunga Tonga Volcanic Eruption, and the Tropics
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/hunga-tonga-volcanic-eruption
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/natural-forces-cause-periodic-global-warming
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Flora and Fauna Need More CO2, at least 1000 ppm
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Plants require at least 1000 to 1200 ppm of CO2, as proven in greenhouses
Many plants have become extinct, along with the fauna they supported, due to a lack of CO2.
As a result, many areas of the world became arid and deserts.
Current CO2 needs to at least double or triple.
Earth temperature increased about 1.2 C since 1900, due to many causes, such as fossil CO2, and permafrost methane which converts to CO2.
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CO2 ppm increased from 1979 to 2023 was 421 – 336 = 85, greening increase about 15%, per NASA.
CO2 ppm increased from 1900 to 2023 was 421 – 296 = 125, greening increase about 22%
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Increased greening: 1) Produces oxygen by photosynthesis; 2) Increases world fauna; 3) Increases crop yields per acre; 4) Reduces world desert areas
The ozone layer absorbs 200 to 315 nm UV wavelengths, which would genetically damage exposed lifeforms.
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Energy-related CO2 was 37.55 Gt, or 4.8 ppm in 2023, about 75% of total human CO2. One CO2 ppm = 7.821 Gt. Total human was 4.8/0.75 = 6.4 ppm. See URLs
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To atmosphere was CO2 was 421.08 ppm, end 2023 – 418.53, end 2022 = 2.55 ppm; natural increase is assumed zero; to oceans 2.50 ppm (assumed); to flora and other sinks 1.35 ppm
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Mauna Loa curve shows a variation of about 9 ppm during a year, due to seasonal variations.
Inside buildings, CO2 is about 1000 ppm, greenhouses about 1200 ppm, submarines about 5000 ppm
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Respiration: glucose + O2 → CO2 + H20 (+ energy)
Photosynthesis: 6 CO2 + 12 H2O (+ sunlight+ chlorophyll) → 1 glucose + 6 O2 + 6 H20
Plants respire 24/7. Plants photosynthesize with brighter light
In low light, respiration and photosynthesis are in balance
In bright light, photosynthesis is much greater than respiration
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https://gml.noaa.gov/webdata/ccgg/trends/co2/co2_annmean_mlo.txt
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/new-study-2001-2020-global-greening-is-an-indisputable-fact-andhttp://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/05/05/anthropogenic-global-warming-and-its-causes/
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/summary-of-world-co2eq-emissions-all-sources-and-energy-related
https://issuu.com/johna.shanahan/docs/co2_pitch_4-3-24_baeuerle_english
How many were sold 8 years ago?
And changing topic and unloading stuff about something completely different makes you look like a bot.
EVs are going to outcompete ICE cars, and if western car developers don’t want their own destruction, they better start some R&D, because only trying to sell overly expensive EVs for niche groups won’t help when cheap foreign EVs flood the market.
A rel of mine has 2 cars, an ICE and a plug-in hybrid. The ICE does more mpg (miles per gallon). I filled up their ICE today, after which it said it had 760 miles in the tank. That’s 1,223km.
“EVs are going to outcompete ICE cars”
WRONG !
They will be a passing fad for the gullible.
They will go the natural way of the Do-Do
Nobody wants them.
The cost of sufficient charging infrastructure is totally prohibitive.
Cheap EVs will not flood the market, because they are all sitting in fields in China waiting to explode.
Again.. you know NOTHING..
You have never owned a car and don’t have the brains to get a licence or to drive one safely.
You do not get it.
EVs emit more CO2, but CO2 is not the problem, it is a major benefit and SHOULD NOT BE REDUCED. It should be increased!!
“Plants require at least 1000 to 1200 ppm of CO2, as proven in greenhouses.”
No they don’t.
Plants are doing OK at current levels, much below what you suggest.
Output IS increased by running higher CO2 atmospheres.
If what you stated is true you must not spend much time outside seeing all the plants.
I guess all those greenhouse operators must not know what they are doing since they spend quite a bit of money to raise the CO2 levels in the greenhouse to 1200 ppm to 1500 ppm. Why would they bother if the yield increase wasn’t substantial?
That’s an ECE vehicle.
D not feed the trolls.
I try to, but I can’t say no to such articles.
No, YOU don’t counter blog posts you are often trolling with utter nonsense which is why you get so many red markdowns.
The utter nonsense of EIA, IEA, Fraunhofer, Rocky Mountain Institute… I posted more than enough links to credible sources in the past that also got more than enough red.
This time I posted my own opinion, and if you look at the trajectory of the industry, you would see that it’s not far off.
If the sources are pushing the global warming bull crap then they are not credible.
Oh, your poor little child. !
Seems like you are addicted to making yourself look like a complete moron..
There are no advances in EV technology. They are just electric motors that have been around for ever, and battery technology that is failing to advance. We are now in the flattening portion of the experience curve. They are not going to get a lot cheaper due to technology or volume production. China is making them a lot cheaper, but that has nothing to do with technology or manufacturing processes.
I agree that traditional ICE cars will not be sold in the fairly near future. They will not be replaced by EVs however. They will be replaced by mild and plug-in hybrids. A plug-in like the Prius or Ford Kuga will do around 50 miles, and then kick over to gas.
The great advantage is that you do not lug a heavy expensive battery around, and become dependent on slow and unreliable public charging on any long trip, as with pure EVs, but you do get greatly improved gas mileage over straight ICE. More of an improvement with a plug-in, but still substantial for a simpler and cheaper mild hybrid.
The attempt by the UK ultras to take everyone to pure EVs at the same time as they reduce the supply of reliable electricity to run them, by trying to move generation to wind and solar, will fail. Partly because people won’t buy EVs, partly because neither the grid as a whole nor the local power distribution network will handle the demand. From cars — and from heat pumps in addition, the other great fantasy of the ultras.
I think ICEs will be around for a really long time, based on the world’s ability to supply the gigantic amounts of raw materials needed for even hybrids.
Availability of raw materials will determine what technology can be used.
This is the complete blind spot is all the changing technology discussions. Noone thinks about it, just assumes whatever they need will be available in unlimited quantities and low cost.
A mild hybrid takes very little extra raw materials. Its a small battery and an electric motor that is only supplementary to the main gasoline or diesel drive unit. The point is that at the point where the ICE engine is least efficient, startup or sudden acceleration, it gets assistance from the battery, which is then recharged, partly by regenerative braking. You never drive on the electric motor, or only a very little in a few cases. The savings in fuel consumption are considerable. There is really no reason to buy a simple ICE car any more, when mild hybrids such as the Prius are available and not much, if at all, more expensive.
I think hybrids will replace simple ICE cars on the merit of the technology.
The merits of a plug-in are similar, though they are technically more complex, but the fuel savings are potentially a lot greater. If you use the car mainly for local trips, less than 100 miles in a day, then you’ll run most of the time on the battery, but when you do go longer, the ICE engine will take over. For someone living in the country, driving ten miles or so to shops, school run, days out, work, they make a lot of sense. They do cost more than the mild hybrid though, so it depends on the use case.
A waste of time since we don’t need to reduce CO2.
Not the point. I agree we don’t need to reduce CO2, but that is not why to buy a hybrid. Buy one because they are simply better cars. Hybrids are a genuine technical innovation and are better buys regardless of any considerations about climate or CO2.
Its like ARM processors, they genuinely have a lead in power to wattage. You want the performance you can get, its worth buying a Mac and jailbreaking it, there is a genuine technical lead in hardware there. You’ll get a faster, quieter machine with longer battery life. Again and similarly, nothing to do with the merits or demerits of MacOS, which I detest. But the laptop hardware is in a league of its own.
By the way, I say a better buy. The most demanding of buyers, taxi service buyers and drivers, have been devoted buyers of Toyota Priuses. Not because they are worried about CO2 emissions. But because they are better cars.
Sorry Michel you are talking to an retired electronics guy that doesn’t own a cell phone. I would not get a newer car if it was for free. I hate all the electronics in a modern car. If it has a centre screen, on board GPS, or a warning dinger for the door and headlights I would not want it at all. I drive a 1953 Ford Customline with a 239 CI flathead V8. The only electronics in the entire car is the fully rebuilt AM radio and it uses vacuum tubes. I repaired various drive and computer systems at a steel mill for over 30 years and I hate taking my work home with me. So simple is as simple does. There is nothing a new Prius can do that my 53 wouldn’t sound better doing. There are only 7 wires on the entire engine. They cover the temperature, oil pressure, ignition and 3 for the charging system. I like it simple. If I got a newer car it would have to be pre-1996 before OBD2 came on the scene.
Advances? Have they managed to make a perpetual motion machine?
Or have they addressed the inherent safety flaws?
Polscum will shy away from difficult decisions even when they are clearly necessary. You only need to look at the nonsense surrounding taking the winter fuel allowance away from millionaire pensioners to understand why that is.
It begs the question of why these undoubtedly cowardly poltroons, who in normal circumstances will do anything to retain power, are steaming ahead with policies that will make reelection difficult if not impossible?
What power is driving them?
In the UK, Parliament cannot lose
But the ruling party can lose. With such a huge majority, a major risk for Keir Starmer is a major rift in his party.
The UK ruling party will just be replaced by another party with the same Nut Zero focus, all parties except Reform are true believers. Note that when Sunak pushed the ban on petrol/diesel cars back to 2035 he kept the fines for selling them in place, that’s £15K per car for selling above the years target. So he allowed the selling past 2030 but each car has £15K added to the price.
The behavior of European governments (and media) today over climate change, etc., reminds of the book “The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914,” Christopher Clark, 2012. The ultimate outcome of today’s behavior could be worse.
To correct Woodrow Wilson’s famous rationale for US entry into that conflict, it was to ‘make the world safe for [socialism]’.
The EU has quite limited ability to defend itself, without the USA, from Russia + China. China is stealing the industrial capacity and manufacturing sectors, and buying Russian petrochemicals. If the U.S. (rightly) turns it’s focus to the western Pacific, the EU may find itself in a fight for it’s survival with scant help from abroad.
Not only is Net Zero technology expensive, it is also a net import for the UK. So the promise of a Renewables Jobs boom is an illusion, as all the wind turbines, generators, gearboxes, rectifiers, inverters, and cables, are sourced from abroad. Net Zero will bankrupt the UK.
The Royal Society claimed that the UK could transition to full Net Zero (all-electric) by 2050, for the princely sum of £420 billion. That is poppycock. The true cost, based upon current infrastructure costs, is more like £4,000 billion.
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Firstly, solar power is useless, because it does not work in winter.
So solar can be disregarded completely.
See graphs below.
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We need 420 gw of installed capacity wind power,
Or 28,000 of the largest 15 mw wind turbines.
Cost around £2,000 billion.
… (costings from Hornsea-3 project).
Plus we need 30,000 gwh of stored backup,
Or 1,000 Coire Glas storage systems.
Or 3,000 Dinorwig storage systems.
Cost around £2,000 billion.
… (costings from Coire Glas PWS project).
Total cost for Net Zero just over £4,000 billion, plus maintenance costs.
Add all that to your energy costs, and see if renewables are cheap….!
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The 420 gw of wind is derived from:
40 gw winter demand, x 3.5 for all electric, x capacity factor of 40%.
plus 70 gw additional, as they are advocating for hydrogen backup.
and hydrogen is only 25% efficient, so needs greater recharge capacity.
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Images:
Solar does not work in winter. Solar is yellow.
Summer
 
Winter
 
Ralph
Sorry. Need help with the graphs. As I read them they are showing power generation (y-axis) from solar 24 hours a day (x-axis). That, obviously, cannot be. What am I looking at?
Yes, there are seven days here.
You can see the gas-power peaks each day.
Wind is blue, solar is yellow.
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So the deal will be you can buy that Range Rover if you buy 3 golf carts (a/k/a battery powered cars). The dealer will sell you 3 tiny POS Chinese BEVs. You will take them home and push them into a ravine on your back 40, and drive your RR. The dealer will be minting money and the RR will cost less than 100 large more.
I have read/seen articles that some prestige manufacturers, Porsche and Ferrari in this case, won’t sell you their Premier track specification ICE models unless you’ve bought a qualifying number of low spec cars from their range. In the case of Porsche the low spec cars were three Taycans.
A great way to meet the targets of proportion of EVs sold.
Sophia Money-Coutts: All of my friends are leaving the UK because ‘nothing works here’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/14/friends-moving-abroad-nothing-works-here/
First the rich tricked you into brexit to evade EU regulations, and now they leave. Following right-wing populists has always worked out great for the average Joe.
“the rich tricked you into brexit”. That should have been preceded with a warning to put down the coffee before reading on.
That’s, RICH./sarc
Ie. Bollocks.
Meanwhile you ignore the growing failure of the EU as their debts continues to be a big problem as their economies do not grow enough to sustain their social programs.
Net Zero will never deliver for ordinary people. For those serfdom is beaconing and the moment that ordinary people realise that, that will be the end of Net Zero and possibly also of its instigators and facilitators.
The decline of the West continues as their self-inflicted stupidity will send them back into the stone age.
That is the fault of long running stupid voting decisions that brings morons into power, self-inflicted destruction is their reward.
This is really bad government. People need to push back hard. These government knuckleheads can’t see the light on their own it is time to open their eyes.
How do they calculate net zero? An average person exhales about a pound of CO2 per day. Is in this included in the tally? How do calculate the CO2 from domestic farm animals and pets?
How they take into account cold winter weather or hot summers when the AC are turned on?
The cost to the UK of Net Zero is the UK. Effectively, that’s what Net Zero means.
Sadly very very true. 😞