From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Doug Brodie
Matt Ridley in the Telegraph:
So Donald Trump plans to reverse the “endangerment finding” that underpins most climate-related regulation in America. This is further proof that Britain is being increasingly left behind by a global rush to dismantle the climate scare. Ed Miliband is now almost alone in accelerating towards decarbonisation. Even if you think he is brave to jump out of the trench and go over the top, you have to admit it makes no sense to go alone.
Step outside Britain and you realise just how isolated we are becoming on climate policy. America is abandoning most of its climate change subsidies and rules. Stellantis, formerly known as Chrysler, is the latest car manufacturer to take a massive write-down as it backs out of trying to switch to electric cars. The AI industry is embracing gas-fired power to quench its insatiable thirst for electricity. The oil industry is abandoning renewables. The finance industry has disbanded many of its climate initiatives. Even the Democrat party has stopped talking about climate. China and India are building coal plants galore. Europe is watering down its climate targets.
We are soon going to be the only soldier still charging across no-man’s land towards the enemy. Everyone else is safely back in the trench. To put it another way, the effects of carbon dioxide on the world are going to happen anyway so we would be better off adapting to them than trying to reduce our own contribution. About 99.2 per cent of global emissions originate outside Britain, so what we do here has almost no effect.
For years, people like me were told that we did not understand. Britain was setting an example to the world, you see. We had a duty to lead and if we got to net zero first we would reap rich rewards selling the dream to those who followed. Instead we find ourselves dependent on imported gas and oil and relying on unreliable wind and solar power. We are thus saddled with stratospherically high electricity prices, ensuring that we will largely miss out on the real economic opportunities of the late 2020s: in artificial intelligence.
In seeking to persuade us that carbon dioxide was a danger, Britain cooked the scientific books. The technical term for the net harm done by carbon dioxide is the “social cost of carbon”. But if you look up the Government’s position, it says “carbon valuation for policy appraisal no longer uses the social cost of carbon”. The reason for this is that however hard they tried, economists could not make the social cost of carbon greater than the social cost of decarbonisation. So instead, they just decided to cut emissions at any cost.
Likewise, the endangerment finding was a politically motivated action by the Environmental Protection Agency under Barack Obama. The Supreme Court ruled that the EPA could consider carbon dioxide under the Clean Air Act. This gave it the green light to deem carbon dioxide a danger to public health – despite CO2 being an odourless, invisible, non-toxic plant food produced by human lungs at far higher concentrations than found in normal air. If it’s a danger, then so is dihydrogen monoxide, which regularly kills people (i.e., H2O).
Scientifically, the only justification for the endangerment finding was that a child in Chad, say, might die of heat stroke in 50 years’ time as a result of carbon dioxide-induced global warming. But that makes no sense when we know that the same child might not die of starvation today as a result of carbon dioxide-induced global greening – an effect that has increased crop yields and goat fodder by roughly 15-20 per cent in 40 years.
Mr Miliband take note: unilateral economic disarmament never makes sense.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britain-last-fool-standing-net-112537618.html
This is what Matt is talking about:
Prior to 2021, the Government used carbon values based on “the monetary value society places” on CO emissions:
And these carbon values were used in cost-benefit analysis for government policy decisions:
In 2021, this policy was changed:
In short, to achieve Net Zero, carbon values would have to set high enough to offset “marginal abatement costs”.
Without this change, most of the actions required to hit Net Zero would not pass any Cost-Benefit Analysis.
On the BBC’s 1950’s “Goon Show” it was quite normal to use the phrase, “…and now, the world’s highest-paid professional idiot…” which was a sure way to generate laughter…
Unfortunately, the joke has worn rather thin…
Think of the zealous alarmist as… Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Hugh Jim Bissel
Back in the 1950’s liberals laughed at idiots and morons; nowadays they put them in office and follow them blindly!
“Even if you think he is brave to jump out of the trench and go over the top, you have to admit it makes no sense to go alone.”
This quote assumes Ed is fighting some valiant fight against an evil foe. No, he is simply playing along with his globalist friends, knowing that he is in no danger in this “fight”.
Over the top
Over the top
Right, it’s job killing time
(With apologies to BFMV)
So the USA jumped ship, abandoned the Ship Of Climate Doom.
India and China didn’t because they never were on board.
“Ed Miliband is now almost alone in accelerating towards decarbonisation.”
You are not alone; in Australia we have Chris Bowen who makes Ed Miliband look like a genius.
How to take a country with huge energy resources and give it one of the highest electricity prices.
The nut jobs in Sacramento have done the same thing to California. Our electricity is $0.35/kWh (over twice the national average.) Our fuel costs are increasing as they drop in the rest of the US.
Miliband could always escape to California where he can rub shoulders with other delusional job killers.
You are welcome to him, but he doesn’t understand, or not yet anyway, that he is increasingly on his own.
It’s a very wobbly three-legged stool in Europe; Germany, Spain and the UK.
Spain is quite prepared to suffer the mother of all blackouts (and the resulting deaths) as a blip, an unfortunate price to pay in the quest of rolling out more and more renewables to save the planet.
I’d say Sanchez is on balance the least wobbly of the three.
Germany is in a right old pickle with dwindling gas supplies. Needless to say the much vaunted Energiewende isn’t exactly doing what they claimed it would by a long chalk. Foolishly they shut down their nuclear in a grand gesture, an atomic virtue signal. As we say: act in haste, repent at leisure.
And then there’s mad Ed of Doncaster & Islington. He is to all intents and purposes our Archbishop of the faith. No one is more zealous than he. Tony Blair put out another of his institute’s reports…
Tony Blair’s thinktank accuses Ed Miliband of driving up energy prices
The Tony Blair Institute (TBI) published a report on Friday criticising the government’s green policies and urging the energy secretary to drop some of them altogether. – Guardian
This, to the Archbish, is naked heresy.
Sources close to Energy Secretary Ed Miliband described the proposals as “nonsense” and said they would not reduce electricity bills for homeowners.
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Issuing new licences to explore new fields would also only accelerate the worsening climate crisis, sources said. – Head Topics
When you can’t be cancelled you can speak your mind
Ed Miliband’s Net Zero drive will trigger financial crash, former chief scientific adviser warns – Not a lot
Mad Ed isn’t listening. He is writing his next sermon.
Here’s some news from the world outside:
There’s a Race to Power the Future. China Is Pulling Away.
India’s electrotech fast-track: where China built on coal, India is building on sun
The EV leapfrog – how emerging markets are driving a global EV boom
European Countries Pledge to Jointly Develop 100 GW of Offshore Wind, Infrastructure in North Sea
EU pledges nearly $638M for Africa’s renewable energy transition
trump will be the last fool standing. Elections have consequences
You didn’t sign off on that…
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Silly EU, eh.
What?
My Yonghe Mingyi Chongxin family steward? What does that mean?
Is your bot ok?
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You failed to spot that. Oh dear. IQs are dropping faster than I suspected.
I looked at it with two browser now, I see nothing in my post that says that. You have to be more specific.
I looked at it with two browser now
Bravo. To recap….
You didn’t sign off on that…
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Can you see it now????
Please give me a screenshot.
As a green – on yer bike, mate.
You’re being successfully toyed with. 🙂
“In China, more
wind turbines and solar panelscoal plants were installed last year than in the rest of the world combined”FIFY
China’s economy is going through tough times…
China’s real estate slump is in its fifth year, with no end in sight. – Atlantic Council
Guest post: Why China is still building new coal – and when it might stop
Coal power generation falls in China and India for first time since 1970s
Like trump you fixed nothing 😛
Interesting, if there is “no correlation between the amount of new coal capacity and the change in electricity generation from coal” then why are they building new coal plants at such a great rate? And if the “the associated emissions“” are not impacted, then coal power has no CO2 impact, contrary to the net zero cabal’s assertions.
As for the second point above, this is how a grid has to react to increasing penetration of wind and solar, to fill in when they cannot generate. Ever heard of dunkelflaut?
Read the article, it should answer your first question.
For the second one you want to read the quoted sentence again.
I heard more than enough doom saying about renewable penetration in the last 25 years. Still waiting for it to happen.
We have been waiting even longer for the great renewable revolution … oh let me guess it’s only a couple of years away still 🙂
On a bright note with the UN is on the edge of financial collapse and with USA still arguing over payments and government spending unlikely to rescue it … the world could get a big win.
We have been awaiting instantiation of all the doomsday predictions over the past 25 years. Still waiting for the first “tipping point” to end human civilization although many claim more than one have been passed.
how are the rations in the 77th canteen?
Its the fall in cement production. Wake up!
This is silly. China is building coal plants because they have lotsa coal. And they are not going to charge all of those EVs with windmills and solar panels. Goodness…
China has 10x the coal capacity as the U.S. They are adding another 30%. They are not doing this for those plants to sit idle and take up space. Some critical thinking required by you here.
China gets 80%+ of their power from coal. They are not decarbonizing anything. They realize if they hope to be a major economic power they don’t have enough coal to do it. They will reach resource limits shortly (windy and sunny places) and will turn to nuclear.
If they don’t then all of this growth comes to a halt. And India is just getting started.
57.77%
Nope. You’re getting hung up with this final energy/primary energy distinction. Renewable promoters use this distinction to overcome the “you can’t compare capacity” argument. It also ignores energy density and the intermittent nature of weather dependent systems.
Don’t allow yourself to be snowed over.
Sure.
When it hits 97%, sell.
In India, Coal electrical generation fell for one year because they had an early monsoon, didn’t require as much electricity, and greatly increased their HYDRO output.
But it will jump up again.
India will use more coal over the next 25 years, report says | Reuters
Indian state is true believer. Construction of new coal based plant is minuscule. And they are busy razing agricultural land everywhere to build solar.
China buys and installs its own wind and solar- in order to build its market – by large production they can bring the cost down- to entice more fools in Europe, Australia, etc.
Since 2024 Chinese solar power companies have shed one third of their workforce , losing over 87,000 jobs. 40 companies went bankrupt.
China has built 50 cities in which no one lives. Username crows about the supposed record amount of unreliables being built by China but he has no idea at all if they are actually producing any electricity.
And you really can’t see how the majority of the world’s car drivers aren’t buying EVs.
China is building more coal power than the rest of the world combined (except possibly India). Obviously to charge all of those EVs!
North Sea wind projects will collapse after mad millband and his party are ousted next election (which could be sooner than you think).
EU may be happy to waste taxpayer euros funding tinpot dictatorships in Africa (Ivory Coast, Cameroon, the Republic of Congo, Lesotho, Ghana, the Central African Republic, Madagascar, Mozambique, and Somalia), but they aren’t mad enough to waste any more in Europe!
Your gree[n/d] propaganda sites are misleading you….
If someone wants to buy a Chinese EV- great for them, as long as they’re not forced to buy one without the option of an ICE car. And of course, let them buy that EV without any subsidy or tax break.
China is a dictatorship. Don’t support the CCP – don’t buy China made.
While you are at it boycott US products too.
We consume about everything we make. Much of what we export is assembled overseas and imported back.
There you go, being binary again.
And the sources of these headlines are?
A little critical thinking required here.
Everyone is pledging a lotta things. Seeing as how this is a 3 to 5 $Trillion per year endeavor the amounts being pledged is pocket change.
The race to EVs is not climate related. It’s resource scarcity related. You need to bring on a few million bpd in refining capacity each year to keep up. That’s not happening.
And, never a mention of the 30%+ reduction in emissions from the power sector since 2005 due to fracking in any attempt to see who is “lagging”. Or nary a mention of the restart in nuclear power programs in the U.S., or China, or India.
This Miliband person’s insistence on wind and batteries is where he is more and more standing alone. Very few are following anymore. And I hope the UK is not pushing solar at such a high latitude.
You need to come to the realization that most people are not running around in circles waving their arms over their heads over this. I guess we can call you a “denier” for this.
all wasted money leading to economic stagnation and bankruptcy- all based on a fallacy that a tiny amount of CO2 which isn’t really a GHG somehow controls the climate- utterly absurd
when real-world realities just don’t register . . .
How many years has the “alternative energy” fantasy been running now? 40? 50?
And now it’s unavoidably obvious to everyone with eyes, ears and a functioning brain that this dog ain’t gonna hunt.
Skip the propaganda and show us where they are making windmills and solar panels using windmills and solar panels. Until that day, you are blowing smoke out of the greater orifice.
I doubt that anyone in the EU has bothered to ask anyone in Africa if they want the “transition” since they have yet to obtain a consistent source of energy to transition from. Forcing someone to accept a thing is not the same as them seeking it. This is nothing more than the same old Europe forcing its will on the Dark Continent via Neocolonialism.
For the poor, trees are to be burned for energy, and the nearest endangered species is supper. They are not fooled by the wealthy selling snake oil on a stage of false nobility.
It is more likely that Europe will become as poor as Africa due to alternatives to energy than Africa will become prosperous without the energy-dense sources that once made Europe wealthy. Only the prosperous can afford to embrace policies designed for a transition to poverty.
That is, after all, what socialism/Marxism always ensures: not lifting everyone up, but lowering everyone to an equality of poverty, except for the elites who orchestrate it.
Why else would they constantly preach the virtues of moderation and sacrifice (ours, not theirs, of course)?
Remember. Some pigs are more equal than others. Marxists do well. Those they lead do not.
I’ve always been fascinated how desperately ideologues cling to any factoid they can find that supports what they are so desperate to believe.
China energy production.. need a magnifying glass to see wind and solar..
India India will use more coal over the next 25 years, report says | Reuters
Do you have a magnifying glass to see wind and solar in India ?
Yet more evidence that the “world outside” is a loony bin.
The last man standing is an expression meaning that last person endured and overcame all the competition and won. Even if you think Trump is a fool, being the last man standing makes him a winner. If there weren’t term limits on the presidency, he’d probably keep winning.
The t-shirt omits his (stolen) win in 2020.
Elections have consequences. That is the only true statement you made.
The worst thing? Our total dependence on China. Whatever China demands China will receive – or the net zero supply lines get shut down.
China wants…
That spy trial stopped – trial dutifully stopped.
And for the visit to Beijing to proceed
That mega-embassy with the redacted basement maze fully approved. – dutifully approved.
Starmer goes to Beijing and comes back with a £250 million tariff reduction deal on whisky over 5 years.
We are by virtue of our own government’s policies, the risk to western security.
The CCP lied about Hong Kong – did not follow the agreement. Tienanmen Square Massacre was real.
If you’ve ever watched the Simpsons episode where Homer designs a car, it epitomises what happens when the village idiot is let loose to do what he likes with no constraints.
I also recommend the Parliament YouTube video of the village idiot refusing to answer questions about his China agreement. All kept saying was “ask me anything”, which the committee member did but all he received was a grinning village idiot who kept saying “ask me anything”.
Saw it and wasn’t surprised. But why wasn’t he wearing his Mitre?
If only the fools supporting Milliband and the other high priests of Climastrology would jump on the “solar power from space” bandwagon! I’m sure they will only have to sell the birthrights of the next three or four generations into perpetual debt servitude, and the ChiComs will happily provide them the Orion’s Belt and Road Initiative; like fusion, just a decade or two away for the next 100 to 150 years.
At least the push for directed energy weapons from orbit (OOPS, I meant spaced solar) will have the benefit of giving Elon some competition in his Forrest Gump-like personal space race! Then mankind can get our genetic material off planet in case the Green Movement accidentally sterilizes Earth in their mad rush to limit the Secondary Gas of LIfe!
What kind of idiot believes that the Little Ice Age is preferable to a slightly warmer and much more fertile planet!? That’s rhetorical, I don’t need examples!
Well Mad Ed is already talking about solar power from space since he is running out of space on the ground for all his pie in the sky projects, having recently given the go ahead to 190 wind and solar farm projects
I do love the way all his photos give him that manic look.
Use AI to explain why the EU and UK are delaying enforcement of forced labor solar supply chains in western China. It’s madness.
Kinda like this guy:
Story tip. To infinity and beyond with Ed Miliband
Britain could deploy solar farms in orbit as part of efforts to meet its net zero commitments, according to a government study released yesterday by the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero.
The report outlines what may be the most ambitious proposal yet in Ed Miliband’s drive to decarbonise the country’s energy supply by 2050.
https://www.gbnews.com/money/ed-miliband-solar-farms-space-net-zero
I’ve read a lot of sci-fi, I didn’t expect to find it in a government-commissioned report.
Come to think of it, I’ve written a few short sci-fi stories in my time, maybe I should give them a call…
Orbiting solar power stations (microwave energy to earth) were studied in the 70s and 80s and it was decided the risk far exceeded to benefit, not to mention cost.
The simulation of the first airliner passing through the power beam was the nail in the coffin.
What have bird guillotine when you can have Eagle microwave ovens all over the planet.
And the Nobel Prize for Greenwashing goes to Ed Miliband for his genius methods of keeping slave labor solar supply chains from western China in full force in order to protect a child in Chad 50 years from now. Did he get policy consulting services from Jerry Brown in California?
De- carbonisaton (Net Zero) does virtually nothing to change the climate. Ask Miliband to explain this. He can’t. it is a complete sham and is costing us dear. Why do politicians and lefty woke organisations NEVER get asked this question?
In other news, Matthew Lyn says in the Telegraph….
….other countries have shown us there is a far more sensible path to net zero that involves supporting fossil fuels as well as investing heavily in renewables, keeping energy costs low and allowing industry to thrive….
This is how we reverse direction. Stealthily, saying its just a small detour, we are going a slightly different way. At this point the argument is do both. The next step is to gradually slow down on renewables. Investing heavily comes to mean sometime in the distant future investing something.
Stalin was a great man, father of his country, then a great wartime leader, then…? Who?
Net 100 has a nice ring to it. I’m sure they would agree to that.
The actual “social cost of carbon” is strongly NEGATIVE.
Actual imposed costs include: costs of increased consumer electric costs, grid connections, continuous grid necessity of running make-up energy supply for sporadic fluctuation and zero wind/solar, massive subsidies, wildly expensive costs of wind/solar for no measurable benefit, conservation programs for households and demand reduction in industry, lost national economic productivity, omission of more important social, education, and defense needs, increased deficit interest, ..add more here.
Pick one: continue as is by hiding all of the above or increase public health, welfare, productivity and defense with higher payrolls and employment.
Over the top
Over the top
Right, it’s job killing time
(With apologies to BFMV)
No, sadly Ed is not alone. Here, in my country, little canada, we have his clone, Mark Carney as an equally obsessed greenie Prime Minister. How bad? A few days ago, and after multiple car manufacturers in N.A. and Europe had confessed to nearly a hundred billion dollars of write offs on electric cars P.M. Carnage announced a new plan. Canada would dictate that ICE cars would have increasing pollution standards imposed on them over the next 5 years, sufficient to drive buyers into electric cars, wait for it, built for them, in Canada, complying with Canada’s new and unique standards. After Russia, Canada is the most sparsely settled, and coldest country in the world, and has almost entirely rejected electric vehicles. May God have mercy. Could we trade Mark with the UK for Starmer, no wait
……..let me rethink that.
After the bang-up job he did in the Bank of England? I hardly think so. Send him to Brussels, they love technocrats over there.
I hate to have to say “I told you so,” but take a look at this: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/17/on-externalities-integrated-assessment-models-and-uk-climate-policies/.
It’s great that at last someone in the mainstream, Matt Ridley, has finally tumbled to the alarmist gaming of the system to make out that the “social cost of carbon” is large and positive. Myself, I’m not convinced that it isn’t actually negative.
The next stage, I think, is to take their idea of a “loss and damage fund,” and re-direct it to make all government officials that have promoted, supported, made or enforced bad green polices compensate those of us who have been harmed by those policies.
Matt is on the right track. I never pay any attention to anyone who doesn’t know the difference between carbon and carbon dioxide.
“Even the Democrat party has stopped talking about climate.”
Local elections over here in the US do not mention Decarbonization (read: deindustrialization), but then after they get in office they double down.
The disconnect between what the congresscritters say in elections and what they do in office is arguably yet another form of fraud.
Their latest is to run on “affordability,” and then impose new taxes on every activity under the Sun once they are elected. Like that w#nch in Virginia who is imposing a tax on dog walking. I get the worst headaches from this stuff!
You’re just part of a cult Ed and you’ve lost the plot-
Rubio gives Europe a Valentine’s bouquet, but the roses still have thorns
Largely due to the Great Feminisation of the West and the consequent conspicuous empathy that lacks intellectual rigour and practical reality. Fossil fuel energy has been a victim of its own success in permitting women to grab all the airconditioned sinecures whilst denying that very productivity largely to men working in the great outdoors and non-airconditioned factories and workshops. That is simply not working with too many chief layabouts dilettantes and navel gazers and not enough physical workers-
Apprenticeship decline across Australia has industries worried for the future
Conspicuous empathy and the belief that Gummint can kiss everything better (without the productivity of cheap reliable energy to boot) is responsible for red ink everywhere and ultimately helicopter money printing fuelling inflation that impacts struggletown the worst.
quote “Instead we find ourselves dependent on imported gas and oil and relying on unreliable wind and solar power. We are thus saddled with stratospherically high electricity prices, ensuring that we will largely miss out on the real economic opportunities of the late 2020s: in artificial intelligence.”
Oh look, a commercial.
Doubling the draw on our electrical grids for a questionable product that is unprofitable just isn’t a real economic opportunity of the late 2020s.
He is not alone. Can’t you see Blackout Bowen from Australia standing beside him?
Perhaps BOBowen is not there as his other job is head of the next COP conference so he might be living in a yurt in the Himalayas burning yak dung
(do I need /sarc?)
The problem in the UK is that all the broadcasters are firmly behind Ed Miliband and the climate crazies. As a result no debate on the subject of climate\CO2\warming etc is permitted. A whole generation has been brainwashed into believing this nonsense. And all political parties go along with it, so who can you vote for?
The Reform Party has pledged to put an end to the Green Madness.
How much CO2 is emitted when you cook the books?