Essay by Eric Worrall
PHD student Sanam Mahoozi asks whether we should all follow Mexico’s example and elect scientist leaders like former German Chancellor Angela Merkel to guide us through the climate crisis.
Can Scientist Leaders Help Countries Fight Climate Change More Effectively?
Sanam Mahoozi
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Jun 29, 2024,01:33pm EDT
Updated Jun 30, 2024, 02:21am EDTIn early June, Mexico made history by electing its first-ever female president, Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo, a scientist with a background in physics and advanced degrees in energy engineering.
Her victory has since sparked a discussion about whether leaders with scientific expertise can have a positive impact on pushing forward climate policies worldwide.
In the past, the combination has been a boon for environmental causes.
For example, Margaret Thatcher, the former UK Prime Minister, was a trained chemist who raised awareness about global warming in a powerful speech at the United Nations in 1989 back when a lot of people weren’t taking the issue that seriously.
Then there is Angela Merkel, the former Chancellor of Germany, who with a doctorate in quantum chemistry, played a significant role in advocating for the 2015 Paris Agreement.
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Let’s see what Rachel Kyte, professor of practice in climate policy at the Blavatnik School of Government, University of Oxford said about this topic in an interview with Forbes via email.
For women, “we can look at a number of leaders who have a science background, if not climate science, who have been able to lead their countries into ambition on climate action.”
“Margaret Thatcher and Angela Merkel come immediately to mind. They were able to ask questions of the scientists and understand its implications for action, unrelated to the ideological position of their parties,” whether conservative, religious or liberal.
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Let’s see what Dr. Peter Gleick, member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, co-founder and Senior Fellow of the Pacific Institute said about this topic in an interview with Forbes via email.
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Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sanammahoozi/2024/06/29/can-scientist-leaders-help-countries-fight-climate-change-more-effectively/
Scientific knowledge isn’t an automatic guarantee of political competence. The disastrous mishandling of the Peter Ridd academic freedom case demonstrates that groups of scientists are just as prone to making bad decisions as anyone else.
Angela Merkel was also a political incompetent, in my opinion. She might have been a motivated advocate of green policies, but her green policies were largely responsible for Germany’s energy crisis. Merkel’s 2011 decision to shut down Germany’s nuclear reactors increased Germany’s dependence on Russia.
There was plenty of warning Russia was an unreliable energy partner. President Trump tried to warn Germany about the consequences of its reckless energy policy in 2018, when Merkel was still in charge. The German diplomats laughed in Trump’s face.
Margaret Thatcher is an interesting case. While it is true Thatcher had a big hand in promoting the climate issue in the early days, in her 2002 memoir, Statecraft: Strategies for a Changing World (New York: HarperCollins), she expressed dismay at how concern about climate change had been used as an excuse to promote global tyranny, and criticised exaggerated claims of scientific certainty. It is truly sad that greens who cite Thatcher as a right wing green leader consistently fail to provide a more complete picture of her views.
… The doomsters’ favorite subject today is climate change. This has a number of attractions for them. First, the science is extremely obscure so they cannot easily be proved wrong. Second, we all have ideas about the weather: traditionally, the English on first acquaintance talk of little else.
Third, since clearly no plan to alter climate could be considered on anything but a global scale, it provides a marvelous excuse for worldwide, supra-national socialism. All this suggests a degree of calculation. Yet perhaps that is to miss half the point. Rather, as it was said of Hamlet that there was method in his madness, so one feels that in the case of some of the gloomier alarmists there is a large amount of madness in their method.
Indeed, the lack of any sense of proportion is what characterizes many pronouncements on the matter by otherwise sensible people. Thus President Clinton on a visit to China, which poses a serious strategic challenge to the US, confided to his host, President Jiang Zemin, that his greatest concern was the prospect that “your people may get rich like our people, and instead of riding bicycles, they will drive automobiles, and the increase in greenhouse gases will make the planet more dangerous for all.”
It would, though, be difficult to beat for apocalyptic hyperbole former Vice President Gore. Mr Gore believes: ‘The cleavage in the modern world between mind and body, man and nature, has created a new kind of addiction: I believe that our civilisation is, in effect, addicted to the consumption of the earth itself.’
And he warns: “Unless we find a way to dramatically change our civilisation and our way of thinking about the relationship between humankind and the earth, our children will inherit a wasteland.”
But why pick on the Americans? Britain’s then Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, has observed: “There is no greater national duty than the defense of our shoreline. But the most immediate threat to it today is the encroaching sea.” Britain has found, it seems, a worthy successor to King Canute.
The fact that seasoned politicians can say such ridiculous things – and get away with it – illustrates the degree to which the new dogma about climate change has swept through the left-of-centre governing classes….
Read more: https://www.amazon.com/Statecraft-Strategies-Changing-Margaret-Thatcher/dp/0060199733 (pp. 449–50)
The Forbes author also quotes our old friend Peter Gleick as an authority, which is pure comedy. Gleick was forced to resign as chair of the AGU scientific ethics committee, after he was outed for using a social engineering computer hacker trick, impersonating the identity of a real Heartland Institute officer, to obtain unauthorised access to internal documents. To add to the mess, Gleick included a fake document with the leaked stolen documents, which he claimed was forwarded to him by an “anonymous source”.
In the original leak, Gleick did not clearly differentiate the fake “anonymous source” document from the real documents he stole from Heartland.
Unbelievably, Gleick is still a member of the US National Academy of Sciences – which in my opinion begs the question of what level of immorality or depravity is required to get someone ejected from that organisation.
I don’t know what kind of Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo will make. But having a background as a scientist offers no reassurance that she will be a competent leader. The signs in my opinion are ominous – in 2019, while serving as leader of Mexico City, Claudia introduced a raft of radical green policies. If Claudia turns out to be another green policy obsessive like Angela Merkel, Mexico could be about to experience some German style energy price pain.
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Notice how charlatans always talk about “We” and “Our” and the dangers that the future always holds unless some changes are made immediately.
Al Gore could have said “Don’t wait. Supplies are limited. Mail 5 payments of only $49.99 now. Not available in stores. Shipping and handling charges extra.”
And yet strangely when polled on the subject people don’t rate the ‘climate crisis’ very highly. Makes you wonder what a free and fair referendum on the subject might have as an outcome.
That’s all we need, more “science leaders” like Merkel, Michael Mann and all the other “scientist”-alarmists. It’s bad enough we have political alarmists like AOC, Biden, etc., etc.
A doctorate is not a guarantee of any competence.
The recipient may have excellent knowledge of some hyper specialized topic- of little value to the world- but of course they’ll want everyone to know that they’re a “doctor” and be impressed.
The author of report is ” in the final year of a Journalism PhD program “
I wonder how many years that takes and whether she knowns any science?
She will have many years to review her mistakes.
Would that be objective journalism or advocacy journalism?
Curious minds want to know.
Dr Jill Biden (a real doctor) would argue otherwise.
Q: Which doctor is she?
A: Yes.
That’s like the old saying, “climate is to science as witch is to doctor”.
A doctorate in education.
That is not science or medicine.
Educated yet ignorant.
“Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and higher education positively fortifies it.” Stephen Vizinczey
Nor intelligence.
Is it a coincidence that she is striking the same pose as Baghdad Bob?
Why?
When Americans are polled on issues that matter most to them, global warming/ climate change consistently ranks dead last or near the bottom.
So … is she saying that SS physician Dr. Josef Mengele would have made a better Fuhrer than Adolf?
The Fuhrer the better.
Stanford geology grad, global mining engineer and historian of science Herbert Hoover was the only professional scientist to serve as US president. So far, despite Jimmy Carter’s claim to be a nuclear physicist.
Thomas Jefferson presented lectures at the American Philosophical Society and served as its president, but was an amateur. He’s best known for his ground sloth paper. To his credit, at the end of his life he did come to accept the reality of species extinction.
And Jefferson thought the French Revolution was just awesome- despite the guillotine.
I noticed Jefferson didn’t go to Paris to experience it firsthand.
Perhaps he was waiting for a more efficient, high-throughput, German machine.
Actually, he was our ambassador to France for the 5 years before the French Revolution.
Peter Gleick knows how to argue a point. When he isn’t impersonating someone else to obtain emails that don’t belong to him or writing documents and passing them off as the works of one his opponents, he’s on Twitter trying to convince deniers who disagree with him by simply replying to their arguments with for big bold letters, “STFU“. Yeah, that will make a lot of converts.
Ahhh Dr. Fauxci declared himself to BE SCIENCE! It’s settled. We don’t need any more scientists. /s off
Of all the countries that should be aware of the danger of ‘scientific’ leaders, Mexico should stand out. Google ‘cientificos’. These were a select group of policy wonks that supported dictator Porfirio Diaz about 125 years ago. That administration did not end well.
Merkel? The German leader who wouldn’t let Poland & Romania transfer German manufactured artillery equipment to the Ukraine. Guess she forgot when the world helped west Berlin with supplies delivered daily by air when the Soviet Union blockaded the City. The same Merkel who relied on Russia Nord Stream pipelines to be Germany’s primary natural gas supplier.
Truth be told, I would prefer more STEM graduates to eventually become politicians. Merkel was a bad example for someone to choose as an example.
Tante Angela was from the former DDR, East Germany. That should be taken into account.
The appeal of philosopher/scientist kings has always baffled me. But then I think for myself and don’t need one. I’d rather have competent leaders that rationally look at the facts to guide public policy for the best outcome. Not that I’ve seen one of those unicorns yet but I’m still hopeful.
The reason you haven’t seen one yet is because they are all Party hacks who think the best outcome is that they be elected/reelected and all else is subservient to that.
But a spokesperson from the World Economic Forum said they already own The Science, so what is the need for more discussion?
If I disclosed what used to be called the gender of this person, under recent Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, I would be in breach of the law in some countries.
Levity aside, the topic here shows quite serious developments in social conduct that seem to be part of the personal makeups of senior players in the global warming/climate change game that has become a very high stakes movement. There is evidence of a difference in treatment of personal values like truth, honesty, lawfulness, apology. We oldies in particular as a group value these highly and are innately guided to reject the GW/CC veracity because so many of its promoters, including scientists by degree, are liars. I will never know what motivates them. Geoff S
Money? Hubris? Ego? Messiah complex? Narcissistic sociopathy?
All of the above?
They want to be the living in The Farm House?
I was raised to own my mistakes, acknowledge them, offer apology or reparations as appropriate and LEARN from them with the goal of not repeating the same mistakes. The word humility plays into this.
That morality is gone.
Don’t forget the change in people’s concept of shame.
“Angela Merkel, the former Chancellor of Germany, who with a doctorate in quantum chemistry…”
Seriously, quantum chemistry? Earned some decades ago?
In 1986. Wikipedia has a short mention of her studies and the degree. Not quite a doctorate in quantum chemistry, but close enough for government work. 🙂
JZ,

My personal evidence about quantum stuff taught.
Geoff S
Imagine that! IR scattering.
“Rachel Kyte, professor of practice in climate policy…”
WTF?
That is silly wording, so who knows where it came from or what it means. Initially I thought maybe English was a 2nd or 3rd language. Apparently not her. But it may be wording by Sanam Mahoozi.
Kyte earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in history and politics from the University of London and a master’s degree in international relations from the Fletcher School.
Exemplary qualifications for a climate scientist.
Someone has suggested putting climate in front of scientist is like putting witch in front of doctor.
Dang, you beat me to it. I just made that comment above before I saw yours.
Keyword…. policy.
I’ve always wanted to called a Numerology Scientist.
Give me a number, any number, and if it doesn’t add up to or can be divided by 7, it’s wrong.
7 is Earth’s lucky niumber.
(Yes, I know I misspelled “number”. But I only adjusted it come up with 7 letters for the good of the planet!)
“Scientific knowledge isn’t an automatic guarantee of political competence.”
nailed it! In fact, it has nothing to do with political competence. It’s a totally different skill set.
And the reverse is also true.
In your lead photograph, is Angela Merkel relating the results of a fishing trip or her dreams of male sexual partners?
Geoff S
I initially read
…as saying that Merkel had taken up politics in Mexico, thereby condemning another country to deepening third-world status.
As to the question posed by Mahoozi: Why not elect ‘scientists’ and acaddemis to political positions? Didn’t Jimmy Carter and Woodrow WIlson work out great for everybody?
Carter was not a scientist.
Wilson was marginally competent, just barely.
Wilson also proposed the League of Nations. More worthless than the United Nations.
(Fortunately the US Senate at the time voted to NOT join.)
As I remember it, Thatcher used global warming to beat up on the (communist) coal miners union. Which I think was a regrettable tactic.
Personally, I believe unions have served their purpose and have transformed into something unintended. Political bosses who control large voting blocks.
If not how the members actually vote, where a large part of their union dues actually go.
(I worked under AFSCME, but never joined. Long story short, the last thing I got from them before Janus (where none members no longer were forced to contribute their “Fair Share”) was that over 47% of union dues were spent on politics.)
I’ve heard similar.
Thatcher wasn’t bright enough to honour her own promise of a new nuclear powered generator per year of office and only managed the one start. And since the COVID-19 ‘scare’ haven’t we all been told more and more lies about fuel costs with the truth buried a long way beneath them.
We just need to stop accepting poor standards of integrity and demand much, much better from everybody bur especially those highly paid for their active public service. Public = All of us and not a selected few..
When there is a ‘cradle-to-grave’ welfare State, and a redistributive tax system, the public has no care for integrity – it has none itself – just who will send the biggest share of plunder their way from the public treasury.
Was Gleick every punished, legally? Losing his committee assignment- big deal.
He was welcomed like a hero at the following AGU meeting.
JZ,
No Gleick punishment in my files.
Steve McIntyre on his Climate Audit blog has articles on a number of people who have offended, either actually with moey (Shukla) or morally with untruths. Here is a list of some, there are more. I am searching for a top academic journalist at an eastern US uni who has set up a controlling cell to push climate cgange. Name might start with K.
Memory lane stuff, The only one on my punished list is Sandusky (jail), IIRC. E&OE.
Schatten, Sandusky, Weaver, Pauchari, Shukla, Klinger, Mann, Connolley (Stoat), Klinger, Marcott, Lewandowski.
Who cares what some grad student thinks
Some people cared about what an autistic high school dropout thought. At least a grad student is a step up.
I’m disappointed that there was no follow up interviewing of students or polling of some kind to find out why enrollment dropped. Did it only occur at Cook? It would have been huge if it could be definitely shon5to have been a result of what happened to Peter Ridd. Somebody missed out on a potentially major scoop and a major blow to the current administration.
The news itself is weird in having no curiosity about why. Normally the journalist would ask the admin what they thought was the reason. It’s like a news story about 25% of people at an event dying, and no one asking what had caused it!
It’s a good suggested story to investigate for an WUWT article.
As far as I’m concerned we have the answer. Mistreating a professor who mistakenly thought he could speak freely on academic issues doesn’t paint a picture of a university which respects people’s right to have their own views.
I felt a little fobbed off with your reply so I looked at US figures and found a large decline there for a host of possible reasons (scepticism prevents acceptance of some of the reasons)
https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/4398533-college-enrollment-could-take-a-big-hit-in-2025-heres-why/
In Oz:
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/university-attrition-rates-why-are-so-many-students-dropping-out/news-story/3e491dd119e1249a5a3763ef8010f8b5
In UK (they are shy about giving numbers but they even worry about thie elite universities)
https://www.ft.com/content/8d85daa4-fb39-4fdf-9ffe-e1599e87bce0
The overarching problem is no doubt policies of the worlds most inept governments and institutions concentrated in the West. This includes restricted free speech, but also the mismanagement of economies and social upheaval.
Hi Gary, sorry, I didn’t mean to disrespect you.
If you want to do an in depth analysis please send it in via submit a story.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/submit-a-story/
Be careful with what you say, especially if there is a risk JCU might lawyer up. Make sure important assertions are backed with links.
Every time I hear how smart scientists are and we should be them to rule us, I’m reminded of the constitution proposed by astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson for his “Rationalia” government:
That’s it, the entire thing.
True science is also based on evidence. But when false evidence is manufactured, what pretends to be science is not true science.
Party dogma dictates that policy shall secure election/reelection. Science and evidence be damned.
Anyone who thinks scientists would make better leaders just needs to look at how some universities are run.
There are exceptions- scientists like Margaret Thatcher or Benjamin Franklin who did a good job of leading. But there is no evidence advanced scientific training promotes rational political behaviour.
“All policy shall be based on the weight of evidence.” – Easy to agree with that, if it’s your thumb on the scale.
Re: the above article’s lead in sentence:
“PHD student Sanam Mahoozi asks whether we should all follow Mexico’s example and elect scientist leaders like former German Chancellor Angela Merkel to guide us through the climate crisis”
I have to ask the obvious question: What crisis?
Perhaps Sanam needs quite a few more years in his PhD studies.
Margaret Thatcher’s BSc in Chemistry had neither impact nor relevance to the events as they happened at the time.
To think otherwise elevates science and scientists to a level incommensurate with what politicians and bureaucrats really think about science. Science is merely a crutch that they will lean on at need. When they don’t need the crutch to lean on, they may occasionally pick it up and use it to beat their opponents as they might similarly use a baseball bat.
There’s no guarantee that having any sort of scientific background or training will make a political leader any more realistic about climate policy than any other one. Too many of these supposedly climate-aware types have adopted Green agendas as part of their vote-getting platforms, not because they really believe they will make any major differences to their domestic economies or to global environmental well-being. How many countries have turned around their fossil fuel use or emissions to the point that they’re having an actual major effect on whatever climate change threats we actually face. If fossil fuels still provide 82% of global primary energy and one climate conference after the next fails to achieve anything, what difference does it make who’s leading the various countries because overall their policies are having only a miniscule effect on environmental “crises”.
Meanwhile polls consistently show the majority of voters really don’t care that much anyway.
So it used to be “Thought Leaders” and now it’s “Science Leaders” ?
And we should pay attention why?
The issue is whether or not credentials are enough to consider affecting the argument.