Will “Green New Deal” Failures Elect Trump?

From MasterResource

By Robert Bradley Jr.

“A Clean Energy Transition should be occurring but not with the RECKLESS STUPIDITY enhancing the possibility of Trump Again!” (Robert Bibbo, below)

Robert Bibbo, self-described environmental energy analyst and observer, lamented a while back on the growing popularity of Trump relative to President Biden. He stated:

This New York Times Poll Shows Trump Leading in 5 Battleground States. A Point In Time Not Election Day Certainty. Nevertheless! Never Ever Trumpers Should be Concerned.

Bibbo then brought in some historical analysis:

In 2016 The Democratic Brain Trust saddled Hilary with a Clean Power Plant 1 War on Coal. Krugman opines 2x (NYTs) that CPP 1 delivered PA, MI & WI (46 EC votes) to elect Trump45. In 2020 those 46 votes elected Biden. Heading into 2024 the Brain Trust has saddled Biden with a Clean Power Plan 2 War on Fossil Fuels. Add the reasonable chance of midwest grid failures Trump Again is much too real. A Clean Energy Transition should be occurring but not with the RECKLESS STUPIDITY enhancing the possibility of Trump Again! And just like CPP1, CPP2 has no chance to become law.

There is a bit of a civil war with some climate alarmists warning to go slow for political reasons. But doesn’t Bibbo know that the climate is in crisis and the emergency is HERE? Biden, Kerry, and Gore said it. The United Nations said it. Scientist Andrew Dessler said it….

But maybe climate politics is about more that just ‘saving the planet’. Maybe it is about money and power, the Climate Industrial Complex, bleeding prosperity but at a pace that the subjects do not rebel.

I responded:

Ending the transition with an apology would be the best course of action for the Democrats. After all, wind, solar, and batteries are hardly environmental, not only uneconomic.

Joseph Toomey added:

There is no way your “Clean Energy Transition” can occur without “reckless stupidity.” … Add in the fact that the economy will be in FAR WORSE shape one year from now, together with the fact that pollsters like Times/Siena routinely over-sample Democrats in their raw data adjustment process, and these polling disadvantages will likely only grow.

No response from Bibbo, but I think he is on to something that will fully germinate in November.

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Bryan A
June 20, 2024 6:06 am

If/WHEN Trump47 is elected it is certain that All of Biden’s Green Failures will be blamed on Trump

Scissor
Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 6:47 am

The Green New Deal is about the only Biden failure not mentioned in this 2 minute video.

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1803474277410431219

Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 7:12 am

Trump47

So what do people here think about Project 2025?

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 8:53 am

No doubt there are problems but more than a few good ideas. Unlikely to happen, however.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 9:02 am

It’s got the left terrified, I found hundreds of articles on left to far left websites, decrying it.
The very thought of deconstructing the left’s tyranny of regulations and taxes, is causing the left to go apeshit.
As a result, I see nothing to complain about.

Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2024 11:20 am

Mark

“Transition should be occurring but not with the RECKLESS STUPIDITY enhancing the possibility of Trump Again!”

So Bibbo supports a party that has a long history of proceeding wirh “RECKLESS STUPIDITY” rather vote to oust reckless stupidity. The left does not seem to actually have a political sense. They are like soccer fans in loyalty to the team.

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:05 am

Much better than the UN agenda 21

If it Bulldozes the Democrat agenda then it’s worth the Price
If it Turns California RED it’s worth Twice the Price
If it obliterates the Paris Agreement it’s worth Any Price

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 10:42 am

Well User, if you don’t like the response, why did you ask the question?

Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 10:46 am

Who says I don’t like the response? I don’t downvote posts, just not worth my time.

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:55 am

😉 😉

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 12:57 pm

If that’s the story you are going with this week, go for it.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 2:06 pm

Nobody cares if you don’t like the response. !

Reply to  bnice2000
June 20, 2024 2:15 pm

This is almost a bot level response. No situational awareness.

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 5:07 pm

I’d offer to hold that Mirror for you but you seem to have a pretty good grip on it already
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Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 7:41 pm

Mirror, mirror !

Don’t ask it.. it will tell you that you are the dumbest of them all.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 2:00 pm

Since Luser obviously doesn’t like it..

.. it is bound to be a really good plan overall. !

I found this these proposals would severely inhibit the federal government’s protections around reproductive rights, LGBTQ and civil rights, climate change efforts, and immigration.”

Sounds good so far

Reply to  MyUsername
June 21, 2024 10:05 am

As you may have guessed, I’m a Brit and not a fan of Trump’s political style.

Project 2025 sounds like a great idea. It’s fantastic that someone is taking on the radical left – for all our sakes.

FYI I think of myself as a compassionate Tory – the best way of helping the less fortunate is to give a leg up not a handout.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Bryan A
June 21, 2024 8:47 am

Just like they blame Biden’s rampant inflation on Trump’s spending. They can’t explain why Trump spending didn’t send the inflation rate up one iota until Biden started his even MORE rampant spending.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 21, 2024 10:10 am

blame Biden’s rampant inflation on Trump’s spending.

The one I hear most is “corporate greed”, but they never explain why this corporate greed suddenly kicked in as of 2021 and wasn’t around before that.

June 20, 2024 6:30 am

In the same way that Greens party when they blow up the smokestack on a ff power plant- we can party when solar and wind “farms” are dismantled.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 20, 2024 7:54 am

I doubt that they will even be dismantled, but left to rot until some government agency is created to get rid of them.

Reply to  Gregory Woods
June 20, 2024 7:57 am

When a solar “farm” was built next to my ‘hood, my wife and I sued that company and the town planning board. Part of what we demanded is that the company puts up a bond to be sure the site can be cleaned up when the “farm” is terminated. They did that. It was a dozen years ago so I forgot the details.

Tom Halla
June 20, 2024 6:54 am

“Keep on with the Green New Deal, just lie about it better?”.

June 20, 2024 7:00 am

Both Biden and Trump exploit wedge issues to add a few votes to their base. Surely a country with the population of the US can come up with some political leaders that don’t have serious mental issues at either the ends of the expected behavior spectrum…

Mikeyj
Reply to  DMacKenzie
June 20, 2024 7:24 am

Wedges like: open borders, high inflation, corrupt legal system, energy independence and wars

Reply to  DMacKenzie
June 20, 2024 9:39 am

Both Biden and Trump exploit wedge issues to add a few votes to their base.

Are there countries where politicians don’t exploit wedge issues?

In your mind, what is a wedge issue and what is not?

John Hultquist
June 20, 2024 7:07 am

STORY TIP
BBC News has a link to: Climate change made US and Mexico heatwave 35 times more likely

And, no, I did not go there. I would like to know how to get climate change to increase my net worth by 35 times. 25 times? 3 1/2 ?

Gregory Woods
Reply to  John Hultquist
June 20, 2024 7:57 am

35.017 times to be exact.

Reply to  John Hultquist
June 20, 2024 12:40 pm

The best way to increase your net worth is to get elected to public office.

strativarius
June 20, 2024 7:18 am

The Democratic Brain Trust 

Now, that is funny.

J Boles
Reply to  strativarius
June 20, 2024 7:56 am

BLAST! I wish they would stop using that sneaky word “Democratic” instead of the name of the party Democrat. They HATE real democracy.

MarkW
Reply to  J Boles
June 20, 2024 9:08 am

The left likes to redefine words so that they only mean what the left wants them to mean.
The left has redefined democracy, to mean they win. Just listen to the caterwaul about how “democracy” is broken, everytime they lose.

Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2024 11:38 am

To them “democracy” means mob rule where they rule the mob.

Simon
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 20, 2024 11:54 am

Remind me again what mob stormed the capital in an attempt to subvert the democratic process?

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 12:21 pm

You mean the mob in 2017, that set fire to the church across the street from the White House? Gee, let me think what party that was…

Simon
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
June 20, 2024 12:39 pm

No the one that erected gallows and tried to hang the VP who wouldn’t go along with the now convicted felon traitor in chiefs attempts to steal the election.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 2:12 pm

the one that erected gallows

You mean the gallows that were clearly fake, that weren’t anywhere near large enough nor sturdy enough to actually hang anyone, and that had a sign on the side explicitly saying “This is art”?

and tried to hang the VP

Exactly when did this happen? When and by whom was he taken anywhere close to this totally non-functional gallows with the intent of hanging him?

Reply to  Tony_G
June 20, 2024 2:30 pm

The video says it was pre erected in the early hours before the day itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q34xA2e9q-k

Sturdy enough ? Doesnt need to be , ask the klu klux klan about any branch would do.

Reply to  Duker
June 20, 2024 7:43 pm

 klu klux klan “

Fore-runners to the Democrat party.

Reply to  Duker
June 21, 2024 7:00 am

You seriously believe they actually intended to hang Pence?

You have allowed your hate and propaganda to detach you from any connection to any semblance of reality. Seriously – take a step back and actually think for two seconds.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 12:23 pm

See, this is how I know the Left created the Jan 6th disturbance. The way all Leftists flogged that horse, even long after it was dead, it’s clear that if it hadn’t happened they would have had to create something similar. From there, let’s just save steps and recognize, the Left created the whole thing.

Simon
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
June 20, 2024 12:39 pm

“From there, let’s just save steps and recognize, the Left created the whole thing.”
Of course they did. It’s so obvious.

How very Trumpian. When things go wrong blame the other side. Covid… not my fault. Jan 6… must have been the dems. Share market flying… must be because they think I am going to win (Trump)

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 7:45 pm

NO.. wrong again

Covid was Fauci’s fault for funding the Wuhan lab..

Fauci is a staunch leftist totalitarian.

Bryan A
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 12:57 pm

Remind us all who it was that let them and led them around…oh yes, the capitol police

Simon
Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 1:51 pm

Wrong. The police were confronted by an aggressive armed mob. Yhey surrendered. It was not the holiday tour the lying Fox news cast said it was. Listen to the police, they will tell you how it was.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 7:47 pm

WRONG again..

Trump said there should be more security.. even told Pelosi.

It is totally down to the devious and deliberate lack of security that anything happened at all.

Why are you so pathetically UNINFORMED about everything ? !!!

Reply to  bnice2000
June 21, 2024 9:39 am

Because all he is capable of is regurgitating the lies fed to him by the Fake News.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 1:00 pm

One group of people who peaceably assembled to protest the stealing of an election.
Compared with Democrat constituents who spent much of the previous year trying to burn down cities because a drug addict died of a heart attack while being arrested.

Bryan A
Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2024 1:14 pm

Burning down the cities wasn’t the reaction it was the intention. The reason could have been any Raison du-jour.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2024 1:54 pm

One group of people who peaceably assembled to protest the stealing of an election.”
Sure “peaceably.” Clearly on planet Mark “peaceably” means armed and riotous. So these photos are fake are they “make it up Mark?”
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/defining-images-jan-6th-capitol-attack-2024-01-05/

Bryan A
Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 8:34 am

It’s America…Everyone is Armed…2nd Amendment!

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 9:40 am

Why no guns at the fedsurrection?

old cocky
Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 2:27 pm

Where did the “armed” come from?

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 1:58 pm

I saw video of a someone inside the capital claiming he was just a BLM “observer”.
Other video showed the same guy inciting the crowd to storm the building.
i wonder how many other “observers” were in that crowd?

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 9:37 am

ANTIFA-BLM with fedboi agitators

Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2024 11:55 am

The left likes to redefine words

I read only a couple days ago some news propaganda outlet wailing about how Republicans don’t believe the US is a “democracy”. Instead, they say it’s a “republic”.

Reply to  Tony_G
June 20, 2024 12:20 pm

A Constitutional Republic.
That means, among other things, that there are rules and limits on what Government can and cannot do.
Democrats don’t like that.

Bryan A
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 21, 2024 8:44 am

The Democrats want it to be the Democratic Peoples Republic.
Like the DPRK Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea
Or the DPRC Democratic Peoples Republic of China
Or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Laos

Reply to  Tony_G
June 20, 2024 12:42 pm

There is an important distinction between a republic and a democracy.

That distinction is too nuanced for people on the left as they have to learn the definitions of two different words.

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 20, 2024 2:35 pm

Neither is mentioned in declaration of independence, so what is your point
Republic was merely to differentiate the new nation from a monarchy
democracy is the means where the representatives were elected .

until 1835 college electors , like senators were appointed not direct elections used for HR of Congress.

Reply to  Duker
June 20, 2024 4:03 pm

The Senate was originally to equally represent each State of The United States. (Up to each state’s government how to choose it’s senators.)
The House of Representatives is where each citizen got their equal voice.
A vestige of that is that still Treaties have to be approved by the Senate, the representatives of each States governments that would have to abide by it, and that it is still up to each state how to fill a vacant senate seat.

Reply to  Duker
June 21, 2024 7:08 am

Neither is mentioned in declaration of independence

So? One IS mentioned in the Constitution. Article IV, Section 4:

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government”

Dissing Republicans for saying the US is a Republic vs. a Democracy demonstrates a woeful lack of knowledge of civics.

Bryan A
Reply to  Duker
June 21, 2024 8:46 am

I’ve heard it expressed as
True Democracy is 1 person 1 vote all votes count majority rule
Republic is voted by representative of multiple people

Bryan A
Reply to  strativarius
June 20, 2024 10:11 am

AYUP, should be
The Democratic Brain Cell Trust

strativarius
June 20, 2024 7:25 am

O/T Born to boogie

Just nine years ago biology student Jennifer Kowalski and her sister Lisa were among 15 lucky fans to come face to face with Taylor Swift backstage in Glasgow.

The pop megastar, in the midst of her 1989 world tour, looked thrilled as the Scottish Swiftie siblings lifted her in the air after her sell-out show to 14,000 people at the SSE Hydro Arena in 2015.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13550037/just-stop-oil-arrested-taylor-swift-private-jet-stansted-civil-servant-activist.html

Swift was born in 1989….

Reply to  strativarius
June 20, 2024 9:40 am

Except for all the factual mistakes, the story is true.

michael hart
June 20, 2024 7:49 am

Bibbo’s use of the English language is even worse than Mosher. It is hard work trying to work out what he is trying to say.

June 20, 2024 8:04 am

There is no actual energy transition except from coal –> natural gas. Aside from that there is only a load of totally wasteful spending.

Reply to  honestyrus
June 20, 2024 8:23 am

Only that most new capacity is renewable by now, so just give it a few years.
And batteries are coming to replace gas generation. If you want to see wasteful spending look at nuclear.

https://blog.gridstatus.io/caiso-batteries-apr-2024/

strativarius
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 8:36 am

Kalifornia uber alles, eh.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 9:10 am

Ah yes, the mythical magical battery that is some day going to save wind and solar from itself.
Of course there is no talk about how much these mythical batteries are going to cost.
To the left, as long as someone else is paying, cost doesn’t matter.

Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2024 9:21 am

Ah yes, the mythical magical nuclear waste repository that is some day going to save nuclear from itself. Of course there is no talk about how much these mythical repositories and new plants are going to cost. To the shills, as long as someone else is paying, cost doesn’t matter.

Makes more sense that way, because batteries are currently coming online exponentially 😉

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:21 am

Regardless of the nuclear waste (there’s also toxic waste associated with both Wind Gen and Solar Gen that isn’t discussed) Nuclear still costs almost 1/3 what Wind and Solar do especially when Capacity Factor and longevity are taken into account.
Wind capacity factor 36-40%
Solar capacity factor 22%
Nuclear capacity factor 98%
(takes 3 times wind capacity and 4+ times solar to equal Nuclear
Wind longevity 20 years
Solar longevity 15 years (or the next hail storm)
Nuclear longevity 60+ years with regular maintenance
Wind will be replaced 3 times in the life of a nuclear reactor
Solar will be replaced 4+ times in the life of a nuclear reactor

Wind will take 9 times (3 times capacity 3 times replaced) what nuclear takes
Solar will take 16+ times (4 times capacity 4+ times replacement)
over the 60 year lifespan of Nuclear

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:42 am

To the shills, as long as someone else is paying, cost doesn’t matter.

Good comment – especially applicable to proponents of offshore wind farms and grid-scale batteries.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 12:44 pm

Because “renewables” offer “free” energy?

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 1:03 pm

Solutions to nuclear waste are many, but the left won’t let any of them be used because they are opposed to any form of energy that works.
The best is reprocessing, after which all of the long lived isotopes are gone. As for the short lived isotopes, they are pretty much gone after a year or two.

Exponentially? I guess that’s another word that you use but don’t understand. The rate of battery production would have to increase by at least 4 or 5 orders of magnitude in order for there to be any hope of building enough batteries in 100 years to meet the demand to back up wind and solar.
Of course there’s the problem that the batteries only last a decade or two before they have to be replaced.

PS: I notice that you are still ignoring the issue of cost.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 1:08 pm

Your total lack of self-awareness is refreshing.

You want to impose your ideal solutions on everyone else but you complain that people who suggest better alternatives are ignoring costs?

The issues with nuclear storage, in the USA, at least, are entirely political. Unlike the preferred solutions advocated by climate fanatics, the engineering issues are well known and the technology exists to safely store nuclear waste.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 2:17 pm

Batteries will require a multiple to 10 or 20 or even more in the amount of mining that is required if they to ever be more than a tiny flea on the elephant.

Your ignorance on this matter (and every other matter) is totally laughable.

You are an IDIOT !!

A. O. Gilmore
Reply to  MyUsername
June 26, 2024 3:51 pm

No need for one, keep it onsite and recycle it.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:31 am

And batteries are coming to replace gas generation.

Liar, this is idiocy—batteries cannot generate electricity, they instead waste it.

iflyjetzzz
Reply to  karlomonte
June 20, 2024 11:00 am

But battery farms make AWESOME uncontrollable toxic fires. They burn for days.

Reply to  iflyjetzzz
June 20, 2024 12:37 pm

You can use them for street lights—who knew?

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:37 am

batteries are coming to replace gas generation

Nonsense. Batteries can’t generate electricity; they can only store it. And when renewables aren’t meeting demand due to weather conditions, and when your batteries are all discharged, how will they help to satisfy demand? Answer: demand will be “managed” by smart meters — your lights may still work, but you won’t be able to cook, heat (or cool) your home, or charge your shiny new Tesla.

Perhaps some forward-thinking entrepreneur will come up with a design for peaking plants that harness the energy from burning EVs.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 11:56 am

so just give it a few years.

It’s always “give it a few years”.

What’s the saying about wishing in one hand?

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 12:27 pm

If it’s “renewable” under the current definitions, it’s not capacity. Capacity is dispatchable, and either adds to generation during a peak, or allows the closing/removal of outdated capacity. Wind and solar do none of the above, they are not dispatchable as they are only available when the wind blows or the sun shines, and therefore cannot replace any existing firm capacity, therefore by definition, they are not capacity.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 2:13 pm

 so just give it a few years.”

Yep, that is all they last for. Then they need to be renewed.

Renewable energy is absolutely NOT sustainable.

It requires constant subsidies and mandates from governments, and is a massive drain on the economy. They are TAKERS, which is why Lusers like them.

This is opposed to fossil fuels that pay large taxes, and are responsible for creating and holding societies together as a functional unit.

June 20, 2024 8:13 am

In 2020 those 46 votes elected Biden.

Evidence of an irremediable attachment to delusion.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Pat Frank
June 20, 2024 12:30 pm

Evidence of industrial strength judiciously applied voter fraud.

Beta Blocker
June 20, 2024 8:25 am

Without getting into the reasons why I think so, it is far from certain at this point that Donald Trump will become the 47th President of the United States.

But if Trump does manage to re-enter the Oval Office, he will take an axe to the administrative state, with particular attention to the EPA and to Biden’s nationally-promoted Net Zero policies and programs. ‘Drill baby drill!’ will become the order of the day.

It will be left to the individual states, or to compacts of individual states, to decide whether or not to pursue their own vision for a Net Zero future.

Those states and compacts will be on their own to make Net Zero happen in their own state or in their own region as best they can manage without federal intervention and support. If states like California and New York still want to commit economic suicide, Trump 47 will not stop them from doing it.

As it concerns nuclear, if Donald Trump becomes president, those who promote federal support for nuclear power must do so on the basis of a powerful need for energy reliability and security. Pro-nuclear arguments based on fighting climate change will go nowhere in a Trump 47 administration.

Reply to  Beta Blocker
June 20, 2024 8:35 am

Without getting into the reasons why I think so, it is far from certain at this point that Donald Trump will become the 47th President of the United States.

I bet people outside his cult could name more than a few. But what would I know cause I’m from another country.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:34 am

Obviously Creepy Joe BribeMe has never sniffed the hair of your young female relations.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
June 20, 2024 11:58 am

The irony of implying Biden is a sexual deviant is lost on you isn’t it? Remind me which president was found liable for sexually abusing a woman?

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 12:07 pm

karlo was referring to hair sniffing. Are you claiming that Biden doesn’t do that?

Reply to  Tony_G
June 20, 2024 12:38 pm

No surprise that marx-boi showed his mug in this article.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
June 20, 2024 1:57 pm

Of course. I wait for you to lie then comment. I must say I do a lot of typing when you are around.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 6:05 am

Your marxist worldview is all lies.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 12:35 pm

Found liable by a New York City jury, after tampering by the judge. Next you’ll try to tell me our legal system is fair and balanced? If it’s so balanced, how did Hunter Biden escape prosecution for most of his tax crimes after the investigators/prosecutors deliberately drug out the case until the statute of limitations expired? Tell my why Biden was let of the hook for having classified documents that it was illegal for him to even possess outside a SCF, while Trump is facing prosecution for allegedly (it’s not outside the realm of possibility that he was set up, and classified documents “appeared” in the search that Trump himself never touched) classified documents that he had the ability to declassify? I could go on and on, but you can do that research yourself.

MarkW
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
June 20, 2024 1:12 pm

Coming to the proper, predetermined verdict that the left approves of, is the very definition of fair and balanced.

Simon
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
June 20, 2024 2:00 pm

“Next you’ll try to tell me our legal system is fair and balanced? “
It does it’s best.

“Tell my why Biden was let of the hook for having classified documents that it was illegal for him to even possess outside a SCF, while Trump”
Because Biden like Pence cooperated. He didn’t have to be asked numerous times to give back the docs. Unlike Trump who lied about and hid then destroyed (some) the documents he was not allowed to have. Pretty simple really.

“I could go on and on, but you can do that research yourself.”
I’ve done the research and so has Jack Smith. Now if that judge stops stalling we can all see what he has and make up our own minds including the voting public. Wouldn’t that be fair?

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 2:21 pm

Because Biden like Pence cooperated

You still haven’t shown me the “it’s ok because he cooperated” part of the law. You also still haven’t told me what position Biden held that entitled him to possession of classified documents from 2017-2021.

What about Biden sharing classified information with a ghost writer?

And are you seriously suggesting that “he cooperated when asked to return them” is a reasonable national security policy regarding classified documents? That it should apply to, say, an Air Force Staff Sergeant with SCI clearance – as long as he cooperates? Or does it only apply to certain people?

Now if that judge stops stalling

I thought the legal system “does it’s best.”. Or is that only judges who rule in ways that you like?

Simon
Reply to  Tony_G
June 20, 2024 2:33 pm

She’s doing her best but by all accounts she is way out of her depth. So let’s get this trial going and see what Smith has? Surely you would want that? It’s the best way to clear Trumps name.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 7:05 am

So let’s get this trial going

How about we deal with the irregularities and problems with the evidence first? Which is what is being done. The judge is doing her job.

And, as always, I notice that you ignore all my other questions.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 6:06 am

I’ve done the research and so has Jack Smith

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Liar.

Bryan A
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 1:01 pm

Remind me which President hasn’t been tried for it yet? Oh yeah, that Chinese bow to me Xo Baiden

Simon
Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 2:20 pm

So you think Biden is a friend of China… A little quiz for ya.

Which US president said these words?
President Xi is a “brilliant guy?”
and…“He’s for China, I’m for the U.S., but other than that, we love each other.”

and…. “Look, I want China to do great, I do. And I like President Xi a lot, he was a very good friend of mine during my term?”

I’ll give you a clue. He is a convicted felon.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 4:32 pm

Which US president in the 21st century took bribes from the Chicoms? I limited the question to the 21st century to prevent Bill Clinton being brought into the conversation as a distraction.

House Republicans are supposed to be readying a report describing these money transfers from the Chicoms to Biden.

There’s no evidence of any money transfers from the Chicoms to Trump.

The Chicoms did give a lot of money to the U.S. while Trump was president, in the form of trade tariffs, but that money went to the U.S. Treasury (and U.S. farmers), not to Trump.

Biden kept his Chicom bribes. Selling his country down the river for Chicom money.

Your hero, Joe Biden is a criminal and a traitor to his country. He has no redeeming qualities. He should be in jail, not in the White House.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 20, 2024 5:05 pm

Which US president in the 21st century took bribes from the Chicoms? 
Do you have any proof of this Tom?

“House Republicans are supposed to be readying a report describing these money transfers from the Chicoms to Biden.”
Well don’t hold your breath. They have been trying for years now to get dirt on Biden starting with the infamous call to Ukraines president. I will be soooo impressed if they find anything on him after all this time of looking.

“There’s no evidence of any money transfers from the Chicoms to Trump.”
Agreed. But I didn’t say there was.

“The Chicoms did give a lot of money to the U.S. while Trump was president, in the form of trade tariffs, but that money went to the U.S. “
Common misunderstanding. The Chinese gave nothing to the US in the form of Tariffs. Zero. Tom, tariffs are paid by the country doing the importing not the exporter. So it is the US citizens who pay this on the goods they buy that are Chinese. This all adds to inflation which is what Biden has now got under control at 3% (the Goldilocks spot according to economists). It amazes me how many people don’t get this tariff thing.

“Biden kept his Chicom bribes. Selling his country down the river for Chicom money.”
OK you must have evidence to say this. Please post?

Your hero, Joe Biden is a criminal and a traitor to his country. He has no redeeming qualities. He should be in jail, not in the White House.”

One more time. How many convictions does Biden have? Let’s see. Oh that’s right 0. Trump has 34 and counting. I think you are looking at the wrong traitor.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 7:58 pm

 Trump has 34″

Even someone as moronically stupid as you are must realise they are all just fabrications and junk.

Brought as an increasingly desperate act to try and avoid total landslide at the next election.

Only a massively biased “kangaroo court” could possible convict on the junk that has been produced.

Reply to  bnice2000
June 21, 2024 6:13 am

This is the clown who has a giant poster of Rachel Madcow on the ceiling above his bed, he believes anything and everything the Fake News tells him. So yeah he is moronically stupid.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
June 21, 2024 1:23 pm

At least I know a racist redundant repugnant rag when I see one. Who could ever the think the Gateway Pundit was the fountain of truth? Now that is moronic.

Reply to  Simon
June 22, 2024 6:05 am

Guilt by association, to be expected from a marxist nitwit.

Reply to  bnice2000
June 21, 2024 7:26 am

they are all just fabrications and junk.

Every legal pundit I’ve seen, including those on CNN, are saying that they’ll be overturned on appeal. Too many novel legal theories and questionable rulings.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 4:18 am

Do I have any proof? Only the word of Representative James Comer, the House Republican leading the investigation into Biden.

He discussed the state of the investigation into Biden last weekend, and he said the House Republicans are preparing a preliminiary report to be released soon, that includes these charges of bribery against Biden along with others.

You act like you don’t think Republicans are making progress on the Biden investigation. Wishful thinking on your part. Stayed tuned.

I get the tariff thing: I get that Trump saved the U.S. steel industry by imposing tariffs on the Chicoms. Trump will save the U.S. auto industry too, by imposing tariffs on Chicom cars made in Mexico. If some stupid American wants to buy Chicom products, that’s their problem.

How many convictions does Biden have? Well, he should have been convicted for stealing U.S. government classified information, but the Special Counsel decided Biden was to demented to prosecute.

Trump’s 34 charges will be thrown out of court eventually. You can bet money on it.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 21, 2024 1:27 pm

Do I have any proof? Only the word of Representative James Comer”
And how long has comer been saying he has stuff on Biden? Years now and he has turned up nothing. Surely you must be loosing faith in him?

“You act like you don’t think Republicans are making progress on the Biden investigation.”
Absolutely they are not. They are wasting their time. So many times they have said they have evidence to turn up zero. They have had witnesses who have turned out to be Russian spies for goodness sake. it has been an embarrassment.

“How many convictions does Biden have? Well, he should have been convicted for stealing U.S. government classified information, but the Special Counsel decided Biden was to demented to prosecute.”
Again do yo have any concrete evidence he tried to profit from US documents?

Reply to  Simon
June 22, 2024 3:51 am

Well, like I said, Simon, Stay Tuned, the evidence is coming.

It takes a little time to do an investigation especially when the objects of the investigation don’t cooperate. But we’re getting there.

Stealing classified documents, like Biden did, is a crime in itself, whether Biden made a profit in doing so or not.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 6:10 am

I think you are very stoopid.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
June 21, 2024 1:28 pm

I think you need to stop listening to your 5 year old grandchild for put downs.

Bryan A
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 5:17 pm

Which President has his family name on offices accessible to Chinese nationals with National “Secret” documents in boxes in unsecured offices?
How much has Xi Jumping paid to “The Big Guy” through Hunter?

Simon
Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 5:23 pm

So you have no evidence either. So what is all this Biden is a crook thing? It just gets boring after a while. And anyway he is meant to be too senile to tie his shoe laces, how the hell is he masterminding all this crime?

Bryan A
Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 7:42 pm

I doubt he’s masterminding anything beyond remembering to put on his sunglasses when he faces the camera so people can’t tell if he’s alive and awake or not. Unfortunately there isn’t much he can do to disguise the fact that he’s doing a Big Job in front of the cameras. He’s truly nothing but a figurehead for the DimOCrat machine and sock puppet for the liberal media to make use of to push their Big Media agenda

Simon
Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 7:51 pm

Unfortunately there isn’t much he can do to disguise the fact that he’s doing a Big Job in front of the cameras.”
This is why the debate next week is make or break for Biden. It’s not for Trump, he wont leave no matter what. But I think there is a chance that if Biden gets walloped by Trump, he may just hang up his boots. Then everything changes, probably for the better for the republicans, not not necessarily. Trump is not at all popular (nor is Biden) so if one of them is gone, it would be so interesting to see what support a new candidate could get and how quickly.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 11:00 pm

he may just hang up his boots”

More likely he will be incarcerated in a home for the mentally disabled.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 4:26 am

“Trump is not at all popular”

You just don’t get it, do you Simon.

Trump got 75 million votes in the 2020 election. That is five million more votes than he got in 2016. That means MORE people support him now.

And Trumps polls show him very strong and beating Biden in all the Battleground States. The States Trump needs to win to win the presidency.

“Trump is not popular” is a disinformation campaign of the Left.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 21, 2024 6:15 am

Yep, another lie pushed by the Fake News that Simon the Stupid swallows.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 21, 2024 1:55 pm

Trump got 75 million votes in the 2020 election. That is five million more votes than he got in 2016. That means MORE people support him now.”

We are talking about two different things. For starters we are now four years on. Things change. It is a fact that both these candidates are historically speaking not popular. It’s why the “dual hater” group is so large. It’s why the outside world is shocked that the US finds itself in this position where they have only these two as an option. But don’t believe me, here are the very specific polls that back up what I am saying.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

As you can see they are both below 40% for approval. That’s crazy going into an election.
So Tom, respectfully, I think you are confusing polls with approval. If you only have two viable candidates you gotta choose one. So many are going to hold their noses and decide. That doesn’t mean they like them or the direction either candidate will take the country.

Simon
Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 5:52 pm

And Tom here are the historic approval ratings of the last bunch of presidents minus Biden because he hasn’t finished. You can see Trump is lowest by a long shot. These figures may be slightly out (margin of error), but they don’t lie.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx

Reply to  Simon
June 22, 2024 3:56 am

” It is a fact that both these candidates are historically speaking not popular.”

Trump has the support of 90 percent of Republicans, Simon. One can’t do much better than that.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 22, 2024 12:53 pm

So you don’t believe the data I posted from Fivethirtyeigtht and Gallup? These are two highly respected organisations.
What about the latest Fox news poll? Do you believe that?
https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-three-point-shift-biden-trump-matchup-since-may
Surely Tom you are not surprised that a high number of Republicans support Trump. he’s the Republican candidate, be crazy if they didn’t. Just like a high number of Dems are behind Biden. But importantly that number is lower than in 2020 where 94% of republicans supported Trump.
https://rollcall.com/2024/02/26/vast-majority-of-republicans-still-will-vote-for-trump-in-november/
Bottom line is this election is going down to the wire and this debate on Thursday is going to be sooooo interesting. I see Trump is already making excuses in case Biden does well. Biden is on drugs. The hosts are biased etc… Classic Trump play.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 6:15 am

Fortunately, what you think is 1000% irrelevant.

Reply to  Simon
June 22, 2024 6:07 am

No one has any evidence that you, as a committed Bidenista, would accept.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
June 22, 2024 12:55 pm

If you are implying I filter my news with a view to getting to the truth and take sites like the Gateway Pundit with disgust…. then I partially agree you. Truth is some news sites are not worth reading. I read news from the left right and centre then decide where the truth lies. You should try it.

Reply to  Simon
June 22, 2024 1:53 pm

Not at all, I’m implying you are a communist who wants to censor anything that doesn’t match the Party Line.

And your request that I spend time looking at MSLSD is DENIED.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
June 22, 2024 2:22 pm

“And your request that I spend time looking at MSLSD is DENIED.”
Well it’s your choice. If you want to remain a bigoted silly old fool with a one eyed view of the world… go ahead. At least you own it.
Me, I’ll take the informed view of the world looking from all angles.

Reply to  Simon
June 23, 2024 1:30 am

You listen to LIARS, this says it all.

Simon
Reply to  karlomonte
June 23, 2024 2:07 am

Well that was fun.

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 6:07 am

You must be a convicted melon.

Reply to  Simon
June 20, 2024 2:22 pm

a woman” in a certain trade………. NOT A CHILD . !

The fact you don’t know the difference says everything about you..



Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
June 20, 2024 11:22 pm

You know the clip is bullshit right? Surely even your filter for truth can’t be that broken… can it?
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/10/instagram-posts/no-biden-didnt-sniff-a-baby-in-this-video-it-was-a/

And if it was convicted felon Trump he would have told her she looks like his daughter and that he will be dating her soon. Now that is creepy…..

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 4:29 am

What’s the deal with Biden showering with his daugher, when she was young?

That sounds real creepy to me. Maybe even criminal.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 21, 2024 2:06 pm

Creepy seems to follow them both…

Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 6:16 am

Quoting the Fake News again, lamer.

Bryan A
Reply to  Simon
June 21, 2024 8:48 am

Clinton was Impeached for it

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 10:34 am

So you’re part of the foreign cabal spreading disinformation in an attempt to get Biden reelected to keep America looking Weak and stupid in the eyes of the global community

Reply to  Bryan A
June 20, 2024 11:08 am
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 12:39 pm

How many of “[m]ost people abroad” have you sampled?

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 2:28 pm

Totally irrelevant what a far-left propaganda unit comes up with in a survey of people from overseas.. !

Most people overseas see Biden as a demented, senile old fool receiving 10% of funds from his degenerate, drug-addled, mafia linked, scum and criminal son.

Reply to  bnice2000
June 21, 2024 4:34 am

Don’t forget “commie-linked”. Hunter and Joe are both in bed with the Chicoms.

Reply to  Beta Blocker
June 20, 2024 9:41 am

The Deep State is already working overtime to make it harder for Trump to clean house.

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 20, 2024 11:16 am

There is no deep state like there is no darknet. No new world order and 15 minute cities are a great idea. Trump and his crownies were the swamp all along and you are their sheeple, hurting yourself in your confusion.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 12:37 pm

You’re sounding like the White House press secretary now… “Don’t believe your lying eyes, believe only what we tell you to believe!”

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 12:46 pm

I suppose there is no mafia, too.

MarkW
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 20, 2024 1:14 pm

Of course there is a Mafia, and Trump has been leading it since the 1920’s.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 1:18 pm

No deep state?
No dark net?

Boy, you do mouth the party line like a pro.

old cocky
Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 2:24 pm

There is no deep state

You need to watch those excellent documentary series “Yes Minister” and “Yes Prime Minister”.

Reply to  MyUsername
June 20, 2024 2:30 pm

What new illicit drug have you been taking???

A hallucinogen that permanently twists your mind into fairy-tale land??

You have tried them all at some time, from the sounds of it !!

June 20, 2024 9:22 am

“Save the planet!”
“Wait! Not so fast!”

And it still doesn’t occur to them that maybe people just don’t like their policies.

June 20, 2024 9:34 am

Story Tip

Study: Biden’s Green Energy Agenda Makes US Military Dependent On China:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/06/20/exclusive-bidens-green-energy-agenda-would-make-the-u-s-military-reliant-on-china-study-finds/

The Biden administration’s aggressive push to transition to alternative green energy is leaving the U.S. military dependent on its top adversary, China, which would be disastrous in an event of a war with the country, according to a study by the Heritage Foundation publishing on Thursday and obtained first by Breitbart News.”

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 20, 2024 12:37 pm

Not a bug but a feature, in the eyes of Resident Sellout.

MarkW
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
June 20, 2024 1:15 pm

The CCP is getting it’s money’s worth with Brandon.

Reply to  MarkW
June 20, 2024 11:02 pm

So is the Ukraine.. just to keep Hunter’s secrets !

June 20, 2024 9:36 am

Will “Green New Deal” Failures Elect Trump?

What aspect of Biden’s administration is not an abject failure?

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 20, 2024 11:53 am

Biden needs a new campaign slogan.
Maybe paraphrase an old one?
From “A chicken in every pot!” to
“A man in every locker room!”

iflyjetzzz
June 20, 2024 11:17 am

“Will “Green New Deal” Failures Elect Trump?”
The short answer is NO; that’s just icing on the cake. There are PLENTY of other Biden policies that will cost him the election. Illegal immigration alone is probably enough for Trump to win.

Just to illustrate how bad things are getting for Biden, a Hill/Emerson poll came out today showing Trump tying Biden in Minnesota and Trump leading by 1 in a five way contest.
Anyone know when the last time that MN went red in a Presidential election? 1972. That’s right, they went to reelect Nixon. More than 50 years ago.

And most know that Trump has been so demonized in the press/public that many Trump voters stay incognito… I’m one of those people; in fact, I’ve been a ‘registered’ Demonrat for more than two decades just to avoid being a target from angry lefties. That Trump underpolling results in several points that move to Trump in the voting booth.

MarkW
Reply to  iflyjetzzz
June 20, 2024 1:17 pm

I’ve considered changing my registration to Democrat so that I can improve my chances of being polled.

Reply to  iflyjetzzz
June 21, 2024 4:42 am

“That Trump underpolling results in several points that move to Trump in the voting booth.”

The Talking Heads were discussing the polls yesterday where the new Fox Poll has Biden leading Trump by one point and of course, the Left is making much ado about it.

The pollsters said that during the 2016 election Trump was polling four points behind Hillary in the national polls, yet he still won the election. And they say that even if Trump is one point behind Biden in this national poll (and that may change with the next poll) that Trump is in a stronger position now than he was in 2016 or 2020.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 21, 2024 6:19 am

Poll results pushed by the Fake News are nothing but raw propaganda.

Reply to  karlomonte
June 21, 2024 12:16 pm

Far too many aren’t designed to reflect what potential voters think but rather to influence what potential voters think.

SteveZ56
June 20, 2024 2:21 pm

Trying to force people to cut CO2 emissions in order to “prevent global warming” has been a political loser for over 24 years now. In 2000, Al Gore (who was successfully elected as Bill Clinton’s VP twice) started pushing closing the coal mines, which caused West Virginia (a coal state) to flip to Republican George W. Bush. Although most of the focus of that election was on Florida, if Gore had won West Virginia, he would have become President without winning Florida.

President Obama tried to push a “cap-and-trade” bill on CO2 through Congress in 2010, but was stymied when coal-state Democrats in the Senate refused to vote for it, and Republicans took control of the House of Representatives that November.

Fracking has led to increased supplies of natural gas, which results in lower CO2 emissions than coal or oil, and the USA became self-sufficient in energy production in 2018 under Trump, after over 45 years of continuous oil imports (the first Saudi oil shortage was in 1973).

Biden won the 2020 election mostly based on Trump’s mishandling of the Covid pandemic and the race riots that summer, and ran a “shadow campaign” without really mentioning what he planned to do about energy. His shutting down of the Keystone XL pipeline and other oil exploration, combined with his massive subsidies to wind and solar, led to a severe energy disruption that is at least partly responsible for the inflation that the USA endures today.

Before Biden became President, there was never a unified US government effort to mandate the reduction in the use of fossil fuels, since there was always some obstruction, either in the White House or in Congress. Voters now have experienced over 3 years of a very restrictive energy policy dedicated to the “Green New Deal”, and they don’t like the economic consequences.

So if Bobby Bibbo now thinks the Democrats need to soft-pedal the Green New Deal for now in order to get Biden re-elected and sneak it in later, it may be too late. The damage has already been done.

Reply to  SteveZ56
June 20, 2024 4:57 pm

“Biden won the 2020 election mostly based on Trump’s mishandling of the Covid pandemic and the race riots that summer,”

That’s a common meme but I don’t think that is the reason Trump lost the election.

It wasn’t because support for Trump declined, no matter what issue one wants to highlight, because Trump’s support did *not* decline in the 2020 election.

Instead, Trump increased his support by five million votes in 2020, compared to his 2016, vote count. Trump got more votes the second time around than he did the first time. Five million more voters thought Trump was doing a pretty good job in 2020. Good enough for them to vote for him.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 21, 2024 6:22 am

The midnight ballot drops certainty weren’t in DJT’s favor.

Reply to  karlomonte
June 22, 2024 4:03 am

Yes, I remember going to bed election night with Trump ahead in Pennsylvania by 600,000! votes, and when I woke up the next morning, somehow Joe Biden had won the election in Pennsylvania. Overnight, Biden made up all those 600,000 votes and then some.

I’m skeptical.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 22, 2024 9:57 am

The Gateway Pundit was the first to break the news about the early morning ballot drops on the day after the election, which were 95+% all marked for Biden. Simon accuses me of being a NAZ1 or somesuch for the crime of posting links to TGP articles.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 21, 2024 12:18 pm

2000 mules.

Bob
June 20, 2024 5:46 pm

It couldn’t be more clear, the CAGW cult has nothing to do with science or climate, it is all politics, power and control. Nothing is more important than affordable, reliable power when we want it.