Illustrating The Absurdity Of New York’s Energy Transition

From the MANHATTAN CONTRARIAN

Francis Menton

By its 2019 Climate Act, New York has officially embarked on a great energy transition to Net Zero by 2050, with statutorily-dictated interim mandates along the way. The first of those mandates is 70% “emissions-free” electricity by 2030, only 6 years from now. This is far and away the biggest government-directed project that the State of New York has ever undertaken. However, to date, relative to this project there exists no environmental impact statement, no feasibility study, no prototype, and no demonstration project to show how this can be done, let alone any detailed cost analysis to show how much it will cost.

Implementing the enforced energy transition is the responsibility of an alphabet soup of state agencies that makes the federal labyrinth of bureaucracies look simple and rational by comparison. Multiple overlapping departments, councils and authorities that have staffed themselves up with climate zealots take charge of pushing the transition forward — things like the Climate Action Council, the Department of Environmental Conservation, and the NY State Energy Research & Development Authority.

But meanwhile, there remain a couple of vestigial agencies tasked with keeping the lights on, notably the Department of Public Service and the NY Independent System Operator. Those two held something called the Zero Emissions by 2040 Technical Conference back on December 11-12, 2023. After all, somebody has to look over the minor “technical” issues along the way to our lofty climate goals for 2030 and 2040. Look as I might, I can’t find any reporting on, or reference to, this conference in any of the local press at the time or in the months since. However, my friend and partner in crime Roger Caiazza (the Pragmatic Environmentalist of New York), has tracked down information on the conference on various agency websites and on YouTube. On April 7, Roger posted a lengthy blog reporting on the first panel at the Conference; a somewhat different version of that post also appeared on Watts Up With That at about the same time. The slides for all the presentations at the Conference can be found as Item 72 on the public docket at this link.

I’ll just elaborate here on a few of the absurdities that Roger has uncovered.

The first panel at the Conference got the title “Gap Characterization.” The “gap” in question is the potential difference between electricity demanded by consumers and the ability of the system to produce electricity at any given moment. Such “gap” is predicted to arise during the course of the energy transition because of the simultaneous shuttering of the natural gas power plants that currently form the backbone of our grid and the increased demand for electricity from the forced electrification of things like building heating and automobiles. And where will the electricity come from to fill this gap? From the magical “DEFR,” of course. The “DEFR” is the Dispatchable Emissions-Free Resource — the “resource” with all the good characteristics of fossil fuels but without any of the carbon emissions. The current amount of DEFRs in existence and actual use to generate utility-scale electricity in the world is zero.

A guy named Zach Smith gave the first presentation on the “gap” panel. Smith is the VP of System Resource Development at NYISO. Here is his first slide:

This thing warrants some careful study. The two graphs represent two different projection scenarios, for both resources and peak demand. The upward-sloping black line represents the peak demand. In the scenario in the left-hand graph, peak demand goes from the current level of about 32 GW up to about 60 GW in 2040, almost double. The right hand scenario has peak demand going only to about 40 GW by 2040, a far lower rate of increase. Frankly, with the proposed electrification of buildings and of automobiles, let alone the coming of AI, the projection of 60 GW is likely much more realistic.

Then we have the sources of the juice, shown in the bars. Natural gas is the big orange part in the middle. Currently, about 2/3 of the power comes from natural gas, most of the rest from hydro and nuclear, and some little slivers from things like wind and solar. Then we see the projected changes. Supposedly, large amounts of wind and solar emerge by 2035, and natural gas goes down a little. Then in 2035, the DEFR (lavender) emerges, and by 2040 becomes dominant. In the left-hand scenario, the DEFR — something that currently doesn’t exist at scale anywhere in the world — has supposedly been built to a capacity of about 50 GW, far more (indeed close to double) our entire current natural gas fleet, and far more than current peak demand. In the lower-demand scenario in the right-hand graph, the 2040 DEFR capacity is approximately equal to current natural gas capacity.

And get this: In the ISO guy’s view of resource adequacy, the sum of capacity from hydro, nuclear and the DEFR are almost equal to peak demand in both scenarios. Vast amounts of wind and solar capacity are built out, to more than 100% of peak demand in one scenario and closer to 200% of peak demand in the other scenario — but ISO doesn’t count on any of that to be available when actually needed. The DEFR needs to be able to back up the intermittent renewables to the extent of the entirety of peak demand. So why again are the renewables going to be built at all?

So what exactly is this DEFR that doesn’t even yet exist? Smith provides the following chart of the various possibilities that have been suggested:

Each column represents a criterion that the DEFR must meet to fulfill the role of replacing the natural gas. If you get a red mark, you are not up to the job. Well, hydro doesn’t get any red marks — but we have already used up all of our hydro capacity, and we don’t have another Niagara Falls. Wind and solar have obviously only been put on the list in order to reject them for multiple reasons. Really, there is only one possibility that is green all the way across: hydrogen combustion.

So that’s it. Are we supposedly going to go from zero to 50 GW of capacity of hydrogen combustion power plants by 2040? Currently, no such power plants exist in New York (or anywhere else in the world), nor are any under construction, or in the planning process (unless you consider this slide of Smith to be “planning”). Oh, and how about the capacity to produce the hydrogen? That doesn’t exist either. Is the plan to make it from electrolysis from sea water, using electricity generated by wind and sun? Then you are going to need about four to five times the capacity of wind and solar generators than Mr. Smith has in his scenarios. He seems to have forgotten about that. (Or maybe the assumption is that we will buy the hydrogen from China, although they currently don’t produce any either.). And how about the new network of pipelines to transport the hydrogen from the production sites to the power plants? None of that exists or has been planned for yet.

Not a word about costs in Mr. Smith’s presentation. You wouldn’t want to concern the plebes with that kind of thing.

It is impossible to believe that any of this is real. I’ll bet you don’t remember President George W. Bush’s State of the Union address from 2003. Here is a White House press release about it from the time. A few excerpts:

Hydrogen is the key to a cleaner energy future:

  • It has the highest energy content per unit of weight of any known fuel.
  • When burned in an engine, hydrogen can produce effectively zero emissions; when powering a fuel cell, its only waste is water.
  • Hydrogen can be produced from abundant domestic resources including natural gas, coal, biomass, and even water.

The President’s FY 2005 budget proposes $228 million for the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative, a $69 million increase (43%) over the FY 2004 budget.

At least it was $228 million, rather than $228 billion as Biden would have proposed. But here we are, twenty years later, and hydrogen is still nowhere. It will still be nowhere 20 years in the future. If produced in the “green” form from water, it will be easily 5 times as expensive as natural gas, and inferior to natural gas as a fuel in every respect.

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mleskovarsocalrrcom
April 13, 2024 2:28 pm

That’s the ‘thing’ about virtue signaling. You don’t have to actually do anything significant towards the goal to receive blessing. You have to wonder though how long it will take the people to realize NZero is fantasy.

Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
April 13, 2024 4:17 pm

“The people” don’t realize what’s being planned, and won’t realize what’s been done until a major failure. That will not be pretty.

Since the loonies seem unstoppable, the sooner the lesson is learned, the better. Carry on NewYork.

“For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” – Richard Feynman

Sean2828
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
April 13, 2024 5:12 pm

But it’s a useful fantasy. Writing aspirational goals into law without the means to attain them can make meeting basic energy needs a vice and vices are taxed at exorbitant rates.

Paul B
Reply to  mleskovarsocalrrcom
April 14, 2024 5:00 am

It’s a perfect stupidity storm; policy developed by liberal arts majors, buttressed by climate science rent seekers, propagandized by political ‘scientists’, consumed by citizens without the education to understand it, and paid for by taxes taken at the point of a gun.

Randle Dewees
April 13, 2024 2:41 pm

Kabuki dance, or perhaps Titanic deck chair arranging?

J Boles
April 13, 2024 3:26 pm

The Great Climate Leap Forward seems to be falling flat on its face. HA! HA!

Scissor
Reply to  J Boles
April 13, 2024 3:39 pm

The New Year’s Eve ball drop in Times Square, without electricity, will be a sight to behold.

Reply to  Scissor
April 13, 2024 5:12 pm

Yes, to be immediately followed by the kick-off celebration of New York’s Perpetual Festival of Looting and Pillaging.

Tom Halla
April 13, 2024 3:50 pm

DEFR=Magic

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 13, 2024 4:27 pm

DEFR = Fantasy and Religion.

oeman50
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 14, 2024 7:31 am

“…and then a miracle occurs.”

April 13, 2024 4:03 pm

I’ve been hearing on national radio here in the US, people in the area around Long Island and New Jersey are saying that the wind projects are harming sea life. I don’t doubt it. Now New York is dealing with their adoption of Energiewende. Didn’t you see how that worked out in Europe?

Chris Hanley
April 13, 2024 4:33 pm

Multiple overlapping departments, councils and authorities that have staffed themselves up with climate zealots take charge of pushing the transition forward

That’s standard bureaucratic practice everywhere, no individual or sole agency can be blamed for the inevitable failure; they would have been better to maintain the ‘energy transition’ as a goal or aspiration to be achieved in the indefinite future.

Erik Magnuson
April 13, 2024 4:51 pm

If my last name was Smith, I would never name a son Zachary.

With the long lead time for nuclear, the only dispatchable new energy source for New York is natural gas. To make use of that, they would need to allow more natural gas pipelines to be built in the state.

Reply to  Erik Magnuson
April 13, 2024 5:22 pm

There are very few second chances in economics. NYS, with its favorable geography has a real chance to again be the ‘Empire State’, but is blowing it bigly by going the Net Zero route instead of developing its abundant shale gas resources.

Reply to  Erik Magnuson
April 13, 2024 5:51 pm

Aaaah! Know zachary what you mean!

vboring
April 13, 2024 5:04 pm

The Natrium reactor being developed in Wyoming by Terrestrial Energy includes thermal energy storage to increase flexibility to make it a DEFR that ticks all of the boxes.

The thermal storage also isolates the nuclear island, so even the pathologic NRC and their anti-scientific regulations may fail to make it insanely expensive.

Curious George
Reply to  vboring
April 13, 2024 6:20 pm

I hope they don’t infringe on any Navy’s submarine patents.

Reply to  vboring
April 13, 2024 9:27 pm

It’s been too cold in Ohio to go outdoors without protective clothing.

Tony Sullivan
April 13, 2024 5:06 pm

This whole charade is why you shouldn’t live in a blue state. I continue to love life in Florida.

April 13, 2024 5:15 pm

A Quick Answer to this Burning-Hydrogen Question posed by Menton & Caiazza: the Utility-Scale Hydrogen (H2) will come from hydrocarbons [ natural gas, et al. ], produced via steam reforming (SR), just as H2 has for the past century for use in other industrial processes, e.g. NH3 synthesis for fertilizer production. The trick is to have the SR-reactor co-located at the power-plant site — avoiding transport & storage issues — whether the power is generated in thermal (for rapid or ‘inertial response’) or electrochemical (fuel-cell, for efficiency) combustion-reactors. The main byproduct (CO2) from the SR-reactor is diverted for various usages or storage*, so that it can safely be averred that, YES, this is a ‘carbon-free’ utility-scale electricity generation. Sources of this barely concealed technical know-how: you can go back nearly a quarter-century, in the first wave of ‘Hydrogen Economy’ excitement, and find just such projects such as the ZECA (‘zero-emission coal alliance’ as I recall) developed conceptually at Los Alamos National Labs.(1). [Andy many others …] As for the effluent carbon-dioxide, it was diverted to pass over a bed of pulverized mineral CaO, converting it to CaCO3, and then presumably tossed back into the mine from which the CaO was extracted.* Problem solved! Of course, it’s enormously expensive, at least in capital, to build all these SR reactors and couple them to the power plant, but all right-thinking citizens in every enlightened (wealthy) country agree that the virtue attained will be well worth it. As for the Hydrocarbon Producers, well, they will be as busy and paid as well as ever. And as for the world-as-a-whole, (2/3+) of whom are too busy trying to electrify & otherwise power themselves to care about such extravagant schemes, they can safely dismiss the whole sideshow as ‘1st-world problems’. *THat Is Never Gonna Happen AnyWay! [THINGHAW]. (1) https://www.osti.gov/biblio/975832

rogercaiazza
Reply to  Whetten Robert L
April 14, 2024 6:33 am

Unfortunately the zealots controlling the New York energy plan demand that the hydrogen come from “green” sources and the worst of the lot demand that it be used in fuel cells. Even if the technology can be developed to meet the implementation requirements the costs will be enormous squared

oeman50
Reply to  Whetten Robert L
April 14, 2024 7:34 am

Er, I have some bad news about hydrogen combustion. It emits water, which is a greenhouse gas.

John Pickens
April 13, 2024 6:07 pm

The DEFR red marks for Nuclear are:

Dispatchable
Quick Start
Flexible
Multi Start

All five of these “Negatives” are due to the need to back up intermittent wind and solar.

Simple solution, don’t build the wind and solar, and build nuclear instead.
Problem solved.

Curious George
April 13, 2024 6:13 pm

Maybe off-topic: Is this any different from Trump’s criminal lawsuit next week?

April 13, 2024 6:42 pm

The first of those mandates is 70% “emissions-free” electricity by 2030, only 6 years from now.

An simple, yet accurate assessment – it will not happen. No matter the ambition or amount of money thrown at it, it will not happen. But Climate Change™ will be blamed for the failure.

Richard M
April 13, 2024 7:40 pm

Assume all of the organizations have been staffed with DEI hires. What could go wrong?

Rod Evans
Reply to  Richard M
April 14, 2024 1:32 am

Yes that’s it! DEI as in, Dispatchable Energy Initiatives. What a great idea and the Woke folk are so ahead of the game. They have been banging on about DEI for ages, wow they are so clued into the energy needs of the grid.
Let’s not forget that other great woke program. ESG, as in Energy Security Guarantee. That is again something the wonderful scientifically sound Woke have been championing for years.
They are just so ahead of the game….how do they do it?

Bob
April 13, 2024 7:43 pm

Very nice Francis.

April 13, 2024 9:50 pm

The cost to stop the world from warming 1-2C by 2050 is estimated to be $US200 trillion.

There are about 2 billion households worldwide, but 90 percent are too poor to afford anything additional.

That leaves about 200 million households to pay the bill or about $1 million per household.

That is ridiculous.

Rud Istvan
April 13, 2024 10:37 pm

If something cannot happen, it won’t. No matter what an Act legislates.
As here with the NY 2019 Climate Action Act.
Like Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act.
And Obama’s Affordable Care Act.

Magic wands without magic.

oeman50
Reply to  Rud Istvan
April 14, 2024 7:39 am

I always laugh when I hear politicians talk about what “we” did. They do not actually “do” anything, they just try to strongarm businesses to do what they want by mandating it. It’s like passing a law to require Pi to be equal to 3.14…..

Rod Evans
April 14, 2024 1:20 am

DEFR eh..?
The only dispatchable emission-free resource that could get anywhere close to the target in volume and timescale is nuclear.
Now, I haven’t heard of nuclear builds happening in NY? So I can only think they are waiting for the latest estimate that in ten years nuclear fusion will be sorted and an immediate crash build program will provide 50GW capacity in just the five years from 2034 to the 2040 delivery of magic emission free dispatchable energy resource.
See it is easy when you get down to it. All that is needed is a bit of magic and lots of ignorance.

April 14, 2024 4:20 am

Excellent article. Francis Menton and Roger Caiazza are doing great work.

In the color-coded table of red and green attributes, I note that nuclear and modular nuclear are “red” in some of the boxes only because of the proliferation of unreliable wind and solar!! Ditch the intermittent sources, and then if you are really serious about eliminating “emissions” of CO2, even though it is not a climate risk, then the obvious answer is nuclear.

Paul B
April 14, 2024 4:53 am

Since water is essentially burned hydrogen it seems, to my little pea brain, that to get energy from it, you have to pour more energy into the water than you will get out of it.

It’s like pushing rocks up a hill in order to harvest potential energy or maybe processing the ashes in your fireplace to make fire. Am I missing something?

oeman50
Reply to  Paul B
April 14, 2024 7:41 am

It looks like in your house, you obey the laws of Thermodynamics.

Dave Andrews
April 14, 2024 7:15 am

Surely the only thing you need to know about why the hydrogen road, green or otherwise, is not a good one to go down is that:-

More energy is required to manufacture hydrogen than that manufactured hydrogen contains.

April 14, 2024 9:49 am

Near the end of the above article there is this quoted excerpt from the White House press release of President George W. Bush’s State of the Union address in 2003:
“When burned in an engine, hydrogen can produce effectively zero emissions . . .”

This is a common misperception that is generally not true if the burning uses ambient air (which has about 78% by volume nitrogen) as compared to pure oxygen.

“The combustion of hydrogen with oxygen produces water as its only product:
2H2 + O2 = 2H2O
“The combustion of hydrogen with air however can also produce oxides of nitrogen (NOx):
H2 + O2 + N2 = H2O + N2 + NOx
The oxides of nitrogen are created due to the high temperatures generated within the combustion chamber during combustion. This high temperature causes some of the nitrogen in the air to combine with the oxygen in the air.
“The amount of NOx formed depends on:
• the air/fuel ratio
• the engine compression ratio
• the engine speed
• the ignition timing
• whether thermal dilution is utilized
In addition to oxides of nitrogen, traces of carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide can be present in the exhaust gas, due to seeped oil burning in the combustion chamber.
“Depending on the condition of the engine (burning of oil) and
the operating strategy used (a rich versus lean air/fuel ratio), a hydrogen engine can produce from almost zero emissions (as low as a few ppm) to high NOx and significant carbon monoxide emissions.”
— source of above quoted text:
https://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/tech_validation/pdfs/fcm03r0.pdf (Page 3-17) 

Of course, neither G.W. Bush nor his administration were known for their scientific prowess . . . it is not at all surprising that such is the case today with the “leaders” and administrations of both the State of New York and the United States.

DFJ150
April 14, 2024 10:47 am

New York will make great strides toward their mythical “net zero/carbon neutral” future when everyone with two or more functioning brain cells leaves for Florida or Texas.

Sparta Nova 4
April 15, 2024 9:46 am

So, replace CO2 emissions with H2O emissions?

That’ll cool things down. (/sarc)