The WHO ‘Special Envoy for Climate Change & Health Vanessa Kerry: “We can and must make different decisions. We must accept that there is no other way forward than to phase out our reliance on fossil fuels. Simply mitigation and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions — is no longer a choice.
Dr Vanessa Kerry appointed as WHO Director-General Special Envoy for Climate Change and Health – “We are delighted to have Dr Vanessa Kerry join WHO as our Special Envoy for Climate Change and Health. Her extensive experience and dedication to public health make her an invaluable asset in addressing the health consequences of climate change. Together, we will work towards a more sustainable and resilient future for all,” said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General, WHO.
Climate change is emerging as the greatest health challenge of the 21st century, impacting various aspects of human well-being. Extreme weather events, noncommunicable and infectious diseases, as well as health infrastructure and workforce capacity, are all being significantly affected.
“I am honoured to serve as the WHO Director-General Special Envoy for Climate Change and Health. The climate crisis is a health crisis – it poses a fundamental threat to global health, and urgent action is needed to mitigate and adapt against this complex challenge. Climate change is already wreaking havoc across the world – from the cholera outbreak in Malawi to heat-related illness in India – we must invest in strong health systems now which are resilient against these impacts. I will work with WHO and its partners to drive awareness, develop solutions and build consensus for action for a healthier future for everyone on this planet,” said Dr Kerry.
Both John Kerry and Vanessa Kerry also serve as “agenda contributors” to the World Economic Forum.
Related:
December 3, 2023 – John Kerry’s daughter Vanessa Kerry: “There’s a very real opportunity for us to have a health-centered approach to climate change.”
September 27, 2023
Vanessa Kerry, the World Health Organization’s special envoy for climate change, spoke on a World Economic Forum panel to discuss how to successfully prey on the public’s fear and emotions following the pandemic to push the “climate crisis” narrative.
World Economic Forum ‘agenda contributor’ Jemilah Mahmood: “The pandemic was an opportunity, I think all over the world, people realize how important health was…..how now do we take that emotion…of the health factors so critical but guess what guys, the climate crisis is creating more health issues than you can ever imagine, but no one has been able to make that link in the past.” …
Vanessa Kerry: “Covid taught us all these lessons learned, and we should be incorporating that….and the climate crisis is going to be so much worse.”
Jemilah Mahmood: “We were just talking about it earlier: ‘have people forgotten about Covid?’ So, I think it’s about the storytelling element. I think that a lot of the things we see on health are very doom and gloom very, very much, even on the climate issue, right, the extent that people feel ‘I can’t deal with this anymore …I can’t do this.’ But telling, you know, really inspiring stories about what is possible if we work together.”
And when is she going to stop living a life of jet setting luxury? Never. She is a hypocritical liar, has been her entire life.
Well, she’s saving the planet, after all. Think of the children….
Yes. think of the children of Gaza.
Hamasaki should think of the children of Gaza. Maybe Hamas should start by not making the children of Gaza into involuntary martyrs.
Damn autocorrect
Have all the hostages that Hamas took been returned yet ??
If any other armed group in the world started using rape as a method of terrorization, the usual suspects on the left would be going ape shit. With the Palestinians, they try to justify it, when they aren’t denying that it ever happened.
except it turns out a lot of the claims HAVE been proved false. shiela running the webpages and getting handouts is now under investigation at home in Israel and elsewhere
Mr. speaksup: A lot have been proven false, you say? Have any claims been proven true? Why don’t the true ones bother you??!! Or are you just following the story to ignore the true claims, hoping for a false one or two to emerge?
He’s your typical leftist, the US is inherently evil, and any group that is supported by the US is guilty by association.
None of the claims have been proven false. Though I’m sure that’s what you desperately want to believe.
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If only their parents hadn’t voted in a terrorist organization to lead them…”Elections have consequences”
Did Hamas (the elected government of Gaza) think of the children when they invaded Israel and butchered innocent civilians?
HAMAS does! They think of them as shields, bomb delivery systems and political pawns. HAMAS will drag all palestinians into Hell in order to kill more Jews.
I think she meets the definition of a pejorative slang word for a woman that is belligerent, unreasonable, malicious, controlling, etc., and she slings one despicable lie after another.
Does it start with a “C” or “B” ?
Why yes, yes it does.
I would have thought it was Karen.
Sounds like you have only personal attacks, and no scientific basis for your implied slanders. Climate Change is the universal conclusion of all scientific research. Deniers have no standing among civilized citizens.
Actually, Warren, Climate Change (meaning anthropogenic) is not the universal conclusion of all scientific research. The Science of Sequence Stratigraphy shows climate changes and cycles are entirely normal, and that we are not in any unique or new climate change sequence, and, more importantly, there is no valid signal of anthropogenic contribution to the climate changes and cycles. So, it is apparent that Doctor Vanessa Kerry is not stupid, ergo, she must be dishonest. Deal with it.
The nut doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Vanessa Kerry is both stupid and dishonest, a bit like her father.
Let us not forget she is also the spawn of a two legged ATM and has only experienced life from the highest reaches.
Hopefully she will feel benevolent towards her subjects.
No one is denying that the climate changes. The unproven assumption that CO2 released by human activity is driving climate change, and that the current trends of climate change being problematic, are what is being disputed.
Climate Change is the universal conclusion of just about everyone except Alarmists, who believe in Climate Stasis.
True. And in the ultimate analysis of it all, the only true climate change deniers are the IPCC / Al Gore mob who demand that we hang a virtual thermostat in the sky and set the world temperature to a level arbitrarily chosen from 150 years ago, never to change from that level again. They project an accusation onto us that they need to aim squarely at themselves.
They are the people they warned you about…
Thank you for your consideration, Warren.
I wasn’t making an argument so much as I was making an observation. As a PhD scientist I certainly can see through her lies as you probably can also.
With regard to her appearance and behavior, you are free to make and express your own observations should you choose to do so.
Is Richard Lindzen civilized enough for you?
“What historians will definitely wonder about in future centuries is how deeply flawed logic, obscured by shrewd and unrelenting propaganda, actually enabled a coalition of powerful special interests to convince nearly everyone in the world that CO2 from human industry was a dangerous, planet-destroying toxin. It will be remembered as the greatest mass delusion in the history of the world – that CO2, the life of plants, was considered for a time to be a deadly poison.”
The mass delusion is happening in many, many disciplines. Our failed media, money grubbing pols, and the internet are a perfect storm. It is incredibly easy now to create narratives that spread like a plague, pushing the truth from conciousness.
“ pushing the truth from conciousness.”
I strongly disagree! Those of us who are “conscious”, still carry the Truth.
“Deniers have no standing among civilized citizens.”
They don’t get much more pompous and arrogant than that!
Those were exactly the sort of words that were appropriate at the Wannsee Conference in 1941.
Worse than that. Civilization at scale is only possible with inexpensive energy (hydrocarbons and nuclear), and social trust. These Cluster B sociopaths are trying to wipe out cheap energy while betraying everyone around them with an empire of lies and deceit.
Everyone here on WUWT would absolutely LOVE to see you present evidence that Earth’s temperatures are controlled or even influenced by atmospheric CO2. There is a veritable mountain of hard physical evidence that they aren’t.
Go on, we’re all waiting…
PS: Computer models are NOT evidence. Neither are the blathering of the IPCC or so-called Climate “Scientists” like Michael Mann.
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— “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.” – Professor Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research.
— “The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.” – Dr David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University.
— “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” – Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace.
Thanks, G.D. Truths Matter.
Seriously though, name me one thing that does not change the climate. A cow farts in Montana and it’s a hurricane in Florida.
Like most Marxist rhetoric, the alarmist are using un-disprovable hypotheses as truth.
And then tossing in the precautionary principle to cover the cracks in their metaphysics.
We all should attend church because there might be a God who would get pissed off if we don’t.
And who knows what He might be capable of.
Etc.
Deniers of what exactly? Do you deny that people can have their own opinions?
Universal?
The lies just go on and on.
Must be a small universe.
That’s what happens when you exclude everyone who disagrees with you from it.
You are right about the unnecessary ad hominem attacks However, your second assertion is just illiterate nonsense. Your third sentence is a broad attack against people with legitimate, reasoned differences with the so-called consensus.
Fight ad hominem attacks with more ad hominem attacks. You must be a prog.
Actually Warren, what she claims isn’t backed up by the science.
Hahahahahaha!
you are on the drug of Socialism, and it clouds the mind!
Beetroots have zero mental standing.. anywhere… a dark red turnip.
You comment is a worthless yap, pertaining to nothing.
You can’t even tell us what we “deny” that you have any actual scientific proof of.
Waiting. !
Most of the many locals I talk to also think that “climate change” (as a IPCC definition).. is a load of crap.
And they are more civilized than far-leftist mini-trolls like you will ever be.
this is supposed to be an attempt at sarcasm right?
“is belligerent, unreasonable, malicious, controlling, etc., and she slings one despicable lie after another.”
Thing is, red turnip.. that every word used by Scissors, is actually correct.
She is just like her father.
You have no standing anywhere… you are a non-entity.
And once again, Warren delivers only insults and doesn’t even attempt to support his religion. The claim that all real scientists support the CAGW myth has been refuted so many times, that only the willfully ignorant still repeat it.
You fled the debate when your bullying failed, Warren. You have no ethical standing anywhere.
AGW has no scientific backing at all. It’s nothing more than a subjective narrative decorated with mathematics.
Subjective narrative: assume what should be proved (CO2 radiation physics warms the climate), grant your assumptions the standing of data (climate models), and all studies are confirmatory (IPCC and every bloody paper sailing past pal review in climate journals).
You’ve been duped Warren. You connive in your own destruction.
Dr. Frank: Thank you for the link, I missed it the first time.
To all here: Mr. Beeton is almost certainly a sock puppet for AlanJ or one of the other hilter youth (it’s a Monty Python reference, I promise) and is not worth the keystroke for the downvote, nevermind trying to discuss anything. After a few more rounds, he’ll disappear and re-emerge as another gaslighting fool.
Please explain this. It is known that ocean temperature increases cause increases in atmospheric CO2 through ocean outgassing, so if CO2 also causes temperature increase, wouldn’t the historical temperature record be constant runaway warming? Please reconcile this for me, and I’ll join your death cult.
It is all caused by those millions of underwater automobiles.
So, all you have is leftarded lies and no connection to reality. Got it.
Although it will make no difference to the “woke again” flock of the Church of Warming.
“Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
Dwight Eisenhower
The man was a prophet.
Warren Beeton – “Climate Change is the universal conclusion of all scientific research. Deniers have no standing among civilized citizens.”
But … but I thought it was only 97% consensus?
So who’s wrong? You or those that claimed 97%? (Or both?)
Erath climate has been changing for 4.5 bln years, no research disputes this. It has, it does and will be changing. The role of humans is a speculation, and CAGW is a lie.
I think she also meets the definition of someone that takes money, or other value, in exchange for compromising accepted principles.
It starts with whore.
You are assuming that she has any principles, other than “whatever is best for her”.
“You are assuming that she has any principles”
She certainly wouldn’t have inherited any, or gained any from an upbringing in that family.
A total lack thereof.
All those that promote or support the phasing out of fossil fuels deserve to be banished, immediately and for ever, to an enclave where fossil fuels, and products made using them, are banned.
All those that promote or support the phasing out of fossil fuels deserve to be banished,
B. Ark on standby…
You understate your case, my friend. The B Ark did contain some who were genuinely productive people, like hairdressers. This lot deserve the Z Ark.
Wasn’t it the phone-sanitisers that they left behind?
No, the phone sanitisers went on the B-ark and in fact the planet died from a disease caught from a telephone.
I always think of mutant space-goats when I think of the alarmists…
Golgafrincham was a planet, once home to the Great Circling Poets of Arium. The descendants of these poets made up tales of impending doom about the planet. The tales varied; some said it was going to crash into the sun, or the moon was going to crash into the planet. Others said the planet was to be invaded by twelve-foot piranha bees and still others said it was in danger of being eaten by an enormous mutant star-goat.
These tales of impending doom allowed the Golgafrinchans to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population. The story was that they would build three Ark ships. Into the A ship would go all the leaders, scientists and other high achievers. The C ship would contain all the people who made things and did things, and the B Ark would hold everyone else, such as hairdressers and telephone sanitisers. They sent the B ship off first, but of course, the other two-thirds of the population stayed on the planet and lived full, rich and happy lives until they were all wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone.
If there was an inexhaustible supply of them, perhaps,
But there isn’t. and in fact they use oxygen, to make energy.
In the end we will be forced to use something else – oil and gas are pricing themselves out of te market and are already above the true * cost of nuclear power.
*the cost ex of tne regulatory overburden that trebles the build price and build time
“Vanessa Kerry: “Covid taught us all these lessons learned, and we should be incorporating that….and the climate crisis is going to be so much worse.”
Why the long face, Vanessa?…I guess it must be hereditary, Intelligence must be that, as well.
COVID taught me that the WHO, CDC, and much of the government bureaucracies are all liars.
Covid taught me to not trust our “betters” in the government. Their object is to accumulate power rather than help us plebes.
I wonder if the Kerry family had any links to Fauci and the Wuhan lab ?
You should read this article.
The paradox is that an elite is necessary to co-ordinate human activity and create the co-operation required for major projects and of course defense, but the innate tendency is for such an elite to become arrogant and self serving.
When is she going to take her missionary work to China and India – both countries are building coal fired generation plants at a pace that far outstrips any magical claims that eating less meat and surrendering all of our freedoms to sadistic communists would allegedly provide?
No need to go to China, they are already Communists, and the West is only a half-step (and a pile of guns) away from achieving same.
Yes! Don’t forget stupid, self righteous, amoral elite operative. For her the ends justifies the means.. Yet in her case she isn’t smart enough to evaluate the cost of the means.
She is most likely still pissed off Theresa would not adopt her.
Some climate data from Vanessa to support her claims would have been helpful.
As there aren’t….
All they have are ‘stories’ told by vested interest ‘storytellers’ – their stories are merely tall tales intended to frighten children and gullible adults.
Another severely stupid person.
I wish I had close billionaire relatives.
She’s not stupid at all. She’s an MD and director of the Program in Global Public Policy and Social Change at the Harvard Medical School, which is all you really need to know, except she’s not the daughter of Teresa Heinz Kerry and hasn’t been involved in promoting ketchup.
Correct. She is smart, highly trained, with several advanced degrees and experience.
Her father’s influence must smother any skeptical notions that might enter her mind.
I wonder when she might get a clue? At age 47, she might live another 40 years, and see how things work out in 2064.
It is not unusual for highly educated people to be stupid.
True. I spend some time as a physician recruiter. Most had no idea how to run their practice as a business. So while I always respected them for their position as a medical doctor, I had to be firm and authoritative with them for everything else.
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Indeed, she’s not stupid. But National Socialists were not stupid either. They were members of a deranged religious cult.
Doesn’t seem like she ever practised medicine…possibly as an intern…but spent most of her time setting up ethereal do-gooder programs and moving on before they were complete…
Educated.. yes.
Stupid and ignorant…. YES and YES.. !!
She’s not stupid at all.
She’s an MD and director of the Program in Global Public Policy and Social Change at the Harvard Medical School.
I am sorry, but the above is a pure oxymoron.
Bullshit Baffles Brains
What a chip off the old block
“You must””. It is obviously the non elites she has in mind. Those difficult and often populist plebeian types who cannot be trusted or relied on to vote the correct way.
We Have Opportunities… or WHO
Her family became rich via opium trading. Perhaps reparations are in order.
The now obsolete European hereditary monarchies have been replaced by hereditary “democratic” oligarchies made up of members unsuitable for positions in the commercial world but available to make use of ” the storytelling element”.
They probably see where this is all headed and think they will remain in positions of power.
“Climate change is emerging as the greatest health challenge of the 21st century, impacting various aspects of human well-being. Extreme weather events, noncommunicable and infectious diseases, as well as health infrastructure and workforce capacity, are all being significantly affected.”
She’s lying to you and she knows it. She just doesn’t care. Climate change has virtually no impact on human health. There has been absolutely no increase in extreme weather events of any kind over the past 40 years. Any increase in noncommunicable and infectious diseases, if they have even occurred, is due more to migratory patterns than climate change. And how or why climate change would have any impact on health infrastructure and workforce capacity, I have no idea. And neither does she.
She’s lying to you.
Good comment. She knowingly deceives.
Actually your claims are contradicted by all scientific research. The Kerries are right, and you are wrong.
Gosh, if you say so, Ace…
All scientific research? Thank you, comrade.
I presume he lies so as to feel better about his use of argumentum ad populum.
It’s what his cell master tells him to believe, so it must be true.
You are a walking, talking, writing hypocritic fallacy, Warren. I know if you put your mind to it, you could identify all of the logical fallacies that you use by name. Why do you engage?
Perhaps because he’s trolling and being paid to do so. He could also be merely an ‘it’ being produced by an AI algorythm.
“The Kerries are right”
Was that a joke?
Absolutely. The Kerries are quite obviously Left.
At least they should have been.
Time for you to look up Poe’s Law.
There’s a “Warren Beeton” featured in this Citizens’ Climate Lobby 2017 page. Is that you? And if so, has CCL specifically tasked – perhaps even paying you? – with repeating what looks like pre-prepared talking points here at WUWT from the IPCC / Al Gore side, or is this something you’ve doing entirely on your own volition? Regarding the supposed “Conservatives on Climate Change” referenced in CCL pages, I have this observation, held for many years now: There are only two kinds of conservatives, those who are skeptics of CAGW, and those who would become skeptics after taking the time to read material from the skeptic side at huge depth. If indeed you are the person identified in that CCL piece, it appears you fit into that latter category, as it appears to me you have no familiarity at all with myriad faults in the IPCC / Al Gore side, ranging from the science to the pure political angles, e.g. your wipeout deep within this other WUWT comment section on the Oregon Petition Project.
You are using logic. That’s not the kind of thought Warren is looking for.
Actually, this is all the scientific research..
Pretty much, and thus the propaganda is one sided.
Is that Katherine Hayhoe?
So so true.
“your claims are contradicted by all scientific research”
Warren, it is not a difficult exercise to find research by reputable scientists that dispute some aspects of the alarmist climate narrative. You can watch “Climate The Movie” to hear such scientists. You can even hear the opinion of a Nobel Prize winner in physics. So when you go “over the top” and make the “all” claim, you instantly disqualify yourself as an authority on the subject.
Most alarmists define a scientist as someone who agrees with them.
So by definition, anyone who disagrees with them simply isn’t a scientist.
Or that they aren’t a “climate scientist,” and that, therefore, their opinion is meaningless to anything “climate” related.
Even if they have to redefine what a “climate scientist” is.
You wouldn’t have the vaguest clue about “science”, red turnip.
All you ever been told is far leftist lies and propaganda.
Everything in Aetiuz’s second paragraph is provably true from real data.
You’re new here aren’t you.
Since you are so certain, perhaps, for once, you could provide us with a small portion of this overwhelming research that you keep claiming exists.
Unfortunately for you, out here in the real world, there isn’t a shred of evidence to support the belief that CO2 controls climate.
Mr. Beetson, you are full of borscht.
Still waiting for you to present evidence for that assertion…
An obvious troll. Posts once with gratuitous remarks, then leaves.
Always amusing how you indoctrinated “woke again” government worshippers post the gospel you have been sermonized as if it is somehow factual, original and profound.
“Dr Vanessa Kerry appointed as WHO Director-General Special Envoy for Climate Change and Health”.
Now there’s a job title that shouldn’t exist. Needs to phased out. In one step.
What does the “Dr” title refer to?
Doctor of Dictatorship.
You might want to look that up. She is highly trained and experienced.
That’s what is so astounding.
She’s the daughter of a political grifter that is perfectly at ease lying to the general public to promote what her elitist group wants the “little” people to do.
She’s a highly trained and experienced medical doctor who hasn’t studied climate, therefore, on the subject of climate change, she’s just another mouthpiece.
I’ve personally known more than zero PhDs who also happen to be stupid, having lots of academic degrees is not a barrier.
The climate is the product of so many disciplines that I would posit that being an expert in a narrow field like medicine is probably a detriment to understanding it.
She has a a degree in ‘pharmacology and needlework’
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’….how now do we take that emotion…’
Fear?
These people are evil.
At which university did this lady say she studied gases? I ask so as not to send my children to study there.
She had the best education that money can buy, befitting of billionaires.
Or the best grades money could buy.
THAT might be the key element in her ‘education’. It certainly has worked for many others.
It’s a genetic thing. Like father like daughter.
It’s a cult thing.
Too bad time machines don’t exist. If they did, I’d love to shove the spawn of Lurch into one (and any of her ilk who might wish to accompany her) and set the dial to somewhere in the early 1200’s or even earlier. I’d tell her and her buds there’s lots of nice, clean air to be breathed (that apparently no longer exists), clean water and no pollution. And, very low CO2.
I’d program the machine so that after, say, six months, they could return to our time.
Then, when the time machine comes back and the doors open, I would have to wonder if anyone would be onboard at all… Or would they have starved to death or died of diseases that today are easily treatable, having breathed all that fresh air and drank that “clean” water?
Good thought experiment.
A better use of the time machine would be to send you and your ilk forward to the year 2200 to see what would happen if mankind took your advice and didnt reduce GHG emissions.
It will be a better world. Less severe winters. Many currently cold regions will be nicer- with far more people. Long before then, the West will realize how stupid the climate emergency story was. Long before then, fusion energy will be well developed. Energy will be cheap and abundant. The world economy will be far larger. Atmospheric CO2 will be much higher so all vegetation will grow faster. Ecosystems will be more diverse. There will be fewer severe weather events. Climate alarmism will be discussed in history classes for a few minutes and described as a form of mass hysteria brought about by self seeking wind/solar companies, and academics and bureaucrats seeking funding- and weak minded preachy types of activists like Warren Beeton.
They are not going to, so we will find out together. No matter how much people agonize, when Western politicians find out, as they are now, that they can choose between getting unelected by a huge majority or abandon net zero, they will abandon. As they are now.
And even if they don’t abandon, the ROW is not going to reduce, so emissions will keep rising.
Your fallacy is thinking there is something WE can do that will make any difference to rising emissions. There is not. We, the West, only do 25% and falling. The others who are doing the 75% and rising are just growing their economies and letting emissions go where they will, so emissions are growing in aggregate and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.
Good comment. Warren is just a hypocrite whose ideology trumps reality, logic and reason. He is probably just a rooked pawn.
A most ignorant and brain-washed anti-science AGW-cultist.
Ace, here, has more sage advice for us.
Me an my ilk would love a vacation to 2200.
Maybe AOC’s high speed train to Hawaii will be built.
For some one who asks for proof rather than attacks, you certainly seem to have a bad case of diarrhea of the keyboard.
Warren, stop using fossil fuels every day you flaming hypocrite, have you not heard about the alleged climate crisis? Get with the program! And why no solar panels on your mud hut?
Poor red turnip doesn’t even understand that EVERYTHING in his feeble existence is totally dependent on fossil fuels.
Anyone who wants to get rid of fossil fuels is effectively committing suicide…
… because they would not exist long without them.
More CO2 => more abundant life.
Too little CO2 = everything dies.
If people take the advice of scientific cretins like you….. everything dies.
There is no scientific evidence that enhanced atmospheric CO2 does anything except promote enhanced plant growth.
Feel free to present some empirical scientific evidence if you think you have any.
We already know what will happen. After all, a few million years ago, CO2 levels were well north of 5000 ppm, and not only did nothing bad happen, but live thrived. As it will thrive if we ever manage to get CO2 levels up to 600 ppm.
— “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.” – Professor Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research.
— “The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.” – Dr David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University.
— “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” – Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace.
“A better use of the time machine would be to send you and your ilk forward to the year 2200 to see what would happen if mankind took your advice and didnt reduce GHG emissions.”
Or, go to the past before the data was “adjusted”?
Warren,
Let’s see. It is generally agreed by alleged climate cognoscenti that (if alleged catastrophic warming exists) the warming will occur mostly at the poles with little change in the tropics. This means that there will be a lesser temperature gradient between tropics and the poles.Lesser temperature gradient means less energetic weather events. Sounds like win-win to me. Screw the permafrost, who cares about frozen earth. I live in Canada and I say, bring on more warmth.
We would enjoy paradise, thank you. A warmer climate IS BETTER.
How about we return all the idiots who think as you do to The Little Ice Age. With any luck, you’ll all be among those starving to death, which is what you’re trying to do to all of us now.
“I’d program the machine so that after, say, six months, they could return to our time.”
WHY?
She looks as stupid as her father.
They are not as stupid as they look.
More like, “Evil is as evil does.”
Homely as well.
Not if you like horses.
I find that Sarah Jessica Parker, John Kerry, and Vanessa Kerry all bear a striking resemblance to Bruce Campbell when he is extricating himself from the alter where The Book of the Dead resides.
Vanessa Kerry walks into a bar…
The bartender says ‘That joke is way old, get the hell out of here’.
“Simply mitigation and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions — is no longer a choice.”
So, we have no choice because she said so? She needs to understand that free people always have a choice.
“Her extensive experience and dedication to public health make her an invaluable asset in addressing the health consequences of
climate changethe boogeyman.”Fixed it.
“heat-related illness in India”
India has been hot for millions of years.
A friend flew there once- he said the moment he stepped off the plane he almost collapsed from the heat- and that was back in ’68.
A wealthier India will cope better with heat.
Duh— she didn’t by any chance get that job because of who she knew? After all, lefties don’t believe in nepotism. 🙂
The strongest days are these before monsun is starting.
Yes, once they build enough COAL GIRED POWER PLANTS so that they can enjoy that newfangled thing called an ‘air conditioner,’ they’ll have a much easier time with extreme heat.
Daughter of Long Face would deprive them of that privilege, in order to ‘save them. 🙄
s/b FIRED
Didn’t edit soon enough…
Like the rest of the 97%, her job depends on espousing the company line….
Her plans seem to have taken a hit with a new building code decision
International Code Council rejects aggressive green energy home building code mandate (msn.com)
Because you are free, you have a responsibility to make informed choices. I.e, mankind must reduce greenhouse gas emissions if it wants to survive.
Marxist gaslighting — the “solution” kills.
Where’s the Marxist element in Vanessa Kerry’s position and if there is, what is it? Can any and all tyranny be described as “Marxist”? Is one side of pseudo-scientific argument inevitably “Marxist”? Casually labeling the opposition as “Marxist”, whatever that may be, is rhetorical connotation, an unconvincing form of argument that makes the intellect of the user suspect.
It was a reply to Beeton: “mankind must reduce greenhouse gas emissions if it wants to survive”.
Several of our commenters are getting upset by the constant bad mouthing of socialism/communism.
This is quite true.
The only way to implement Marxism, is by first instituting totalitarianism.
Totalitarianism means the government controls everything, which is also the definition of Marxism.
Ah, so that’s it. Totalitarianism and Marxism is the same thing with fewer letters. So these big corporations that pay their executives a fortune for making the odd decision and both building and tearing down nuclear plants are Marxist entities? The companies erecting thousands of acres of solar arrays and wind turbines with public subsidies are the vision of Marx? The corporations that also make potato chips and nuclear submarines must also be Marxist organizations, right? If not, how could we differentiate them?
YOu really hate that the world permits there to be people who have more money than you do.
Your hatred and ignorance of pretty much everything is wearing thin.
You morons aren’t much different than the CAGW maniacs erroneously blaming CO2 for climate change. Your analysis of the situation gives the blame to leftist Marxists, which would be the big businesses reaping the subsidized rewards for building and operating wind turbine farms, solar electric arrays, CO2 pipelines and sequestration boondoggles and other fanciful antics. Both building and demolishing nuclear plants is an expensive enterprise that can only be done by big corporations over an extended period of time. But maybe it’s easier to yell “Marxists” when you haven’t taken the time to actually examine the issue. While big business is innocent of malfeasance it might be wise to cancel your trip if it’s scheduled on a Boeing aircraft.
The true colors were just run up the mast…
Yea, yea, yea. I get it. Big anything, is evil, except big government.
People have more money than you do is evil, and only big government can give you everything you think you are entitled to.
Europeans are always bad and natives have never done anything bad.
Why don’t you grow up, study a little real economics and stop making a complete fool out of yourself.
One of the stupidest comments I have read here at WUWT.
GOVERNMENT CRONY CAPITALISM is responsible for ALL the crap you are speaking of, and YOU know that.
Big business, big business, etc. They are there to MAKE MONEY. Doing stupid things to make money because the government makes it profitable at the behest of lobbyists and donors to crony politician’s campaigns (and gold bars for themselves, Menendez) is how CRONY CAPITALISM works.
Jeff Bezos lost out to SpaceX on the lunar lander contract SO he just got his cronies in the US house and senate, under DEMOCRAT control to REQUIRE NASA to pick a second company to provide a second lander. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise, Sargent Carter!!, NASA picked Bezos’ Blue Origin and gave him over 3 BILLION dollars to build a lander. Yep, that Blue Origin that has yet to launch it’s new rocket because WHY?
Well worth it for Bezos to buy Washington Compost to continuously support Democrat politicians and lie about any conservative voice ya think?
So the government, Democrats and the crony capitalists are the problem, not the “Marxists”?
*SIGH*
The problem is people, no matter what form of Government or economic system is developed.
There will always be those who use and abuse either/both for their own personal gain and/or profit and/or to advance their own agenda.
(Obama was supposed to have studied the US Constitution. If so, it was only to find ways around it.)
The crony capitalists are at best socialists, at worst Marxists.
They are both a problem. However they are a problem with government, not capitalism.
Regardless, Marxism is nothing but crony capitalism.
To the hard core socialists/communists, anyone who has money (with the exception of those who lead the socialists) are by definition capitalists.
Therefore anytime they do something that the socialists/communists don’t like, it’s the fault of capitalism, and only more government can fix it.
The word “must” implies we have no choice. It’s more clear to me now than earlier that you are a high school kid who just took a course on climate by the typical low intelligence high school teacher.
Let’s hope that is the reason W. B. is so confused.
I’ve encountered my beginning college students and quite a few (technically term) express views such as Warren.
The contrast with well-prepared recent HS graduates is astonishing. The sad thing is that teachers have to spend most of their time dealing with the low end of the spectrum. The bright kids get short changed. The balance begins to change after the first semester.
When I went to elementary school in the 60s, the school had 4 classes of each grade. Every kid knew that the classes were divided by performance with the dumb class, the below to average class the average to above average class and the bright, high achieving class.
It was so well known that at the end of the year, when you got your final report card that told you your teacher for the next year, we would get together to see if we moved up, down or stayed the same.
Then rac!sm kicked in. They had to change the method due to the APPEARANCE of discrimination due to the underachievement or overachievement due to race.
So then they just mixed all the kids and teachers began to put 4 kids at a table, yep individual desks went away, and generally put one kid of each level at a table. So then the smarter kids just bumped along at the average level while helping the lowest performing kid to learn the basics.
Funny (not) story about the Las Vegas School District, which was created by a federal judge out of 5 or 6 separate systems previously controlled by separate cities and the overall county. The district created a GATE program (Gifted and Academically Talented) where selected students would be taken from their regular class to “special advanced” instruction. Amazing thing was it didn’t really matter how talented your kid was, if YOU were not a teacher or administrator working for the district. It was a typical socialist program set up so insiders could get THEIR kids advanced education without putting them in private school. That program eventually got cancelled. We CAN spend money on special kids, but only if they are especially BAD students.
Mankind? Does that include China? And India?
Hey, Ace, inform yourself, first.
True
And because we are informed, we disagree that there is an issue requiring the curtailment of our freedoms.
The Keeling curve suggests it will take a couple of hundred years for CO2 to double. That would be about 1.5 degrees warmer. The finding costs of petroleum will be so high within a century that nuclear, biofuel, and synthetic liquid fuels will have to be used. The outcome of less fossil fuel use is inevitable, just these folks want to inflict much more hardship than reasonable progression of demand will.
The belief that doubling CO2 will result in 1.5C of warming is not supported by any data.
There is also no evidence to support the belief that within 100 years, it will no longer be economical to pump oil.
Mark, following is a list of results of several published ECS papers. CO2 absorption of IR is easily calculable in the modern age. Lots of lab CO2 IR absorption data exists that can be used to estimate ECS…Of course its hard to fly the equipment all over the globe at every elevation of the atmosphere at the same time and even if we could, it still probably wouldn’t meet YOUR criterion for “data”.
And I never said it won’t be economic to pump oil…it just won’t be economic for you to use it as fuel compared to some other type of manufactured fuel. The EROI of petroleum gets worse every decade.
And there are many more publications that are producing more realistic estimates, some down to as low as a few tenths of a degree C.
People have been predicting the eminent death of oil drilling for about 100 years, and yet every year, it keeps getting more profitable.
Study up on why all the previous predictions have turned out to be wrong and maybe, just maybe, you will be able to figure out why you are wrong.
Another scientific illiterate that thinks a glass jar represents the atmosphere….
… and that radiative absorption by a tiny band of very weak radiation in the atmosphere will warm an atmosphere which has modes of transferring energy that are literally magnitudes larger.
response to beadick2000
Naw, it’s way more complex than a glass jar. But ECS for CO2 addition to the atmosphere is still somewhere around 1.5 C per doubling, which isn’t actually much…whether you think it’s a problem or not is another issue….I’m saying above it’s not an issue because petroleum use for motor fuel will decrease automatically way before CO2 doubles, as finding costs and EROI continue to increase for oil. We already look for oil in the Arctic and the deep sea. Does that sound easy to you ?
Response to DHMac. !
“But ECS for CO2 addition to the atmosphere is still somewhere around 1.5 C per doubling”
Only on an imaginary Earth.
Ignoring the rest of the atmosphere is a FOOL’s game, and plays right into the AGW anti-CO2 scammers game.
A lukewarmer’s ploy because they aren’t capable to thinking further.
Show us empirical evidence of CO2 warming the atmosphere.
You do know warming by human released CO2 has never been observed or measured anywhere on the planet, don’t you.
The amount of IR absorbed by CO2 and water vapor is well understood in the field of IR thermography for example. The amount of heating caused by the IR absorption of CO2 and H2O molecules can thus be calculated, unless you don’t believe in conservation of energy. You can make pretty reasonable assumptions about how this will affect the atmosphere (only a little according to say Modtran).
We can’t afford to construct Earth sized laboratories to “confirm” these calculations. But sooner or later one must accept basic principles exhibited at a bench scale and extend those to much larger interpretations. Or you can remain a flat-earther recommending autistic young girls be burnt at the stake for witchcraft.
I don’t know what planet you live on, but in this one, the climate is dominated by negative feedbacks. Some quite strong. As a result the actual climate sensitivity is only a tiny fraction of what your no feedback sensitivity assumes.
And we do have alternative planets. The past.
In the past CO2 levels have been as high as 5000 to 7000 ppm, and not only did nothing bad happen, life thrived.
As to your pathetic insults, that sounds more like you and your fellow travellers.
You forgot (and this is ALWAYS the problem with ALL such SUPPOSED “ECS”numbers) to say “ALL OTHER THINGS HELD EQUAL.”
A set of conditions that has never, does not, and will never exist. The feedbacks are negative, offsetting feedbacks, and they will reduce that PURELY HYPOTHETICAL supposed ‘ECS’ to something that cannot be distinguished from ZERO.
Which is what OBSERVATIONS support. Plenty of examples in various paleoclimate reconstructions show NO sensitivity to much higher atmospheric CO2 levels, and lots of examples of reverse correlation, all of which tells us the atmospheric CO2 “drives” NOTHING.
The one proposed positive feedback, relative water vapor, has been shown to not exist in the real world.
We are making informed choice.
It is you that is following baseless anti-science cult-driven nonsense.
There is absolutely zero evidence that humans need to reduce CO2 output…
… and many reasons why they should continue to increase it.
NO WARREN,
She is saying reduction is not an option.
Therefore she is saying complete elimination of human emmisions.
Do you understand what that means?
We are making an informed choice: everything you write is false.
If 500ppm is going to kill off mankind, how did life survive back when CO2 levels were over 7000 ppm?
MY ‘informed choice’ is to continue to enjoy my ICU vehicles, confident that they will get me to and from my ‘choice’ of destinations.
No, reducing greenhouse gas emissions will kill millions.
You obviously have NO CLUE where everything you TAKE FOR GRANTED comes from.
It’s the “free” part she views as the problem.
I think she’s telling us that this ‘freedom’ thing will have to take a back seat while those in charge take charge.
She is not our friend.
I choose NOT TO mitigate or reduce my CO2 emissions…!!
See.. it is a choice. !!
And so the gravy train rolls on – fuelled by bull**** as usual.
One would have thought Dr Vanessa Kerry with all her medical training would have some grasp of science beyond her field of medicine but it seems not. Does she have a single independent thought or is she simply an echo for her dad? It is time the ability to think logically and reason carefully were the main prerequisites for university entrance.
Medicine is a quasi-science degree. Some graduates are scientifically minded and some are attracted to woo-woo. These days it is about critical race theory, gender and feelings. What could go wrong?
What is her doctorate in? I strongly suspect she’s a Doctor in BullSh*t.
MD Harvard. She’s no dummy, but she’s definitely following the family political grift racket.
Harvard hasn’t lived up to it’s reputation in well over a generation.
Wokesville on steroids.
Education standards, heading downwards at an ever increasing rate.
Highly educated in one narrow field of study and indoctrinated in others.
A highly educated person with no ethics or moral compass missed the most important and valuable things to learn.
And considering how old old the failed projections are, it’s fossilized BS.
(If they can change the time it takes to be defined as “climate”, I can change the time it takes to make a fossil!)
Her pops trained her well….this is just too important….the fate of the entire world….she should go full Patty Hearst….save our souls!
Same question to ask all the time people say this stuff. Who is this ‘we’? Does it include China?
The answer will always be, explicit or not, hedged or not, that no it does not include China, that its the West that must phase out, the ROW need not or should not. Even though if the West does act alone (there being no chance of anyone else following) it would make no difference to global warming.
At least, on the theory all the advocates subscribe to. So why are they so intent for us all to do these things that, on their own theory, will be totally useless?
Now you are asking the right question.
Eliminating fossil fuels is the actual health risk and would lead to the death of millions if not billions.
That seems to be a goal of the WEF’ers.
re: ” You ‘no longer’ have ‘a choice’! ”
I don’t know you. I didn’t vote for you. I don’t like your ideas so would likely never vote for you. Unless you change all this (our governance) to a dictatorship, I will still have a vote, and it won’t be going towards/for you or your causes.
Now, if you are going to ‘cram this down our throats’ w/o due process and w/o a vote, we’re on new ground so to speak and the rules of engagement WILL change …
Your vote has no meaning. If it did, it wouldn’t be allowed. The idea that some form of warped democracy exists in the US or anywhere else is a myth. The immediate future is determined by more powerful people than you and it isn’t by a vote. The future happiness of the elites can’t be left to the proles.
Counseling might be able to help you with your paranoid delusions.
Demonstrate exactly how your individual vote on anything at a national level is statistically meaningful in the same way that you demand the Kerry babe show exactly how CO2 raises the world’s temperature.
My vote counts more when I vote than when I don’t.
BTW, I can provide a list of qualified counselors if you are having trouble finding one on your own.
The Marie Antoinette left: Ultra-wealthy people with nothing real to do with their time than to find ways to mandate that others submit to their bidding.
I like it better when these people spent their time and money on self-indulgent pursuits and preferred that we not notice.
Marie had nothing to do with whatever you think she did.
Didn’t she say, “Let them eat bugs?” 😎
>> We must accept that there is no other way forward than to phase out our reliance on fossil fuels.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!
As in “what facts support that there is no other way forward?”
Looking in the past and at the present fossil fuel have been and are nothing but good for us (including jet setting power hungry ketchup families)
I start paying attention to such claims, when they start focusing on global warming instead of climate change! Or at least make a direct connection between fossil fuel and climate change not using global warming. As long that is not the case, alarmists need to acknowledge the massive uncertainties and gaps in our knowledge (and conscious lies by some scientists!) about global warming.
Extrapolating from that to a perceived global or local climate change crisis seems scientifically impossible, but I am willing to learn, so please show me the evidence BEFORE making such claims!
Otherwise you could risk looking very stupid . .
Lead by example if you fell strongly. Otherwise you are a hypocrite. But then we known this was the case for these elitists for ever and ever.
John and Vanessa are oblivious to the fact that ridding the world of fossil fuels will rid the world of the 6,000 products made from fossil fuels that contributed to the world growing from 1 to 8 billion on less than 200 years !
Eradicating the world of crude oil usage would ground the 20,000 commercial aircraft, and more than 50,000 military aircraft in the world and leave the 50,000 merchant ships tied up at docks and discontinue the military and space programs! Without a backup plan to replace crude oil, the 8 billion on this planet will face the greatest threat to humanity without jets, merchant ships, and space programs.
You have more faith in the elite than I, however, there certainly a lot of smart people who believe propaganda. I see them about every day.
Let’s not forget the myriad of medicines derived from fossil fuels.
She should at least be aware of them.. .. shouldn’t she ??!!
Nope. MDs don’t learn manufacturing, that is a chemists’ job. MDs learn what drugs do what. How the drug is made is not taught. Some know that the original chemical derives from something biological, but don’t realize that many drugs available for are synthetic reproductions. Think of fentanyl precursors. They are cooked to get the final product.
“…more than 8 million people a year die from air pollution, more than in the entire Covid pandemic..”
That is a despicable mis-use of facts to support her position; the pollution of concern in that report is in poverty stricken countries where cooking and heating fires with brush and dung are the source of “air pollution”. Use of fossil fuels in those areas would relieve those conditions.
Of course CO2 has NOTHING to do with those tragedies and thus the “solutions” she and her ignorant dad are proposing are not relevant.
“the pollution of concern in that report is in poverty stricken countries where cooking and heating fires with brush and dung are the source of “air pollution”. Use of fossil fuels in those areas would relieve those conditions.”
Well said George!
These are sort of blatant mis-directions from the climate scammers that need to be brought to notice.
Why the long face?
She must be as addled as her father, perhaps it is in the genes?
I particularly like her use of the term ‘we’ as in ‘we must stop using all fossil fuels’.
Maybe she can have a word with father John Kerry and begin the new ‘we’ campaign by stopping him flying around the world so frequently in his ever ready private jet.
Her list of daily weather events that she claims is evidence of the climate crisis is about as compelling a statement as Joe telling us his efforts since being in office has resulted in a record fossil fuel output in the USA this past year.
He tried to get away with the claim, “I don’t own a private jet” as some kind of justification for his extensive use of private flight.
It turns out he used his wife’s plane, who herself under some heat sold it and then began leasing. This speaks to the Kerry dishonesty.
Leasing the plane owners the ‘carbon emissions’ doesn’t it?/sarc
She wants us to ignore science & scientific method and put all of our eggs into a single basket of following the dictates of a single government which may make a serious error that destroys us ALL. That is anti-evolutionary. Species survive by having a variety to survive the changing conditions of life. The founders of the US followed this Natural Law when they allowed each state to have individual sovereignty to explore a variety of methods in governing.
She demands that we not think for ourselves & follow orders in the failed ideology of Communism. It has been the money stolen from the USA that allowed Communism to survive & increase. If you study actual history, you can see this happening through the hijacking of the US government from the inside. This hijacking is nearly complete at this time & we can see the rise of its dictatorship over the people instead of being OF & FOR them. “Our” government no longer REPRESENTS us, it represents the interests of our enemies. It even robs our citizens of needed funds to send to our enemies by the trillions!