Seasonal mortality in Australia. Source https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1753-6405.13107

“… Hottest Summer Ever, but Climate Change … Barely Made the News”

Essay by Eric Worrall

“… At an after-work drinks event I attended, a man fainted and collapsed. We gave him water and walked him to his car, through the city. The baking hot streets were utterly deserted. …”

WA had its hottest summer ever, but climate change and heat-related health problems barely made the news

ABC Science / By technology reporter James Purtill

We read that extreme heat kills more people in Australia than all the other natural disasters combined. 

This has been WA’s hottest summer on record — and the hot weather isn’t over yet.

At an after-work drinks event I attended, a man fainted and collapsed. We gave him water and walked him to his car, through the city. The baking hot streets were utterly deserted.

As the month progressed, there appeared to be a growing disconnection with the way news outlets were generally covering the ongoing natural disaster.

News stories often showed people “beating the heat” by going to the beach. A prominent politician devoted one sentence of their weekly column to the weather: “Yes, it’s summer, and yes, it’s hot.”

Richard Yin, a Perth GP and deputy chair of Doctors for the Environment, said the lack of acknowledgement in the media about the impact of heat and climate change was “vaguely terrifying”.

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-03-18/wa-summer-heat-broke-records-but-media-downplayed-climate-change/103572922#

If someone “faints” after a workplace drinking session, climate change is to blame? I can think of some other possible explanations.

The claim extreme heat is Australia’s biggest killer is not borne out by the evidence. The following is by scientists who claim the ration between summer and winter deaths is closing because of climate change – but there are still more deaths in winter.

Increased ratio of summer to winter deaths due to climate warming in Australia, 1968–2018

Ivan C. HaniganKeith B.G. DearAlistair Woodward
First published: 26 April 2021

The authors have stated they have no conflict of interest.

Abstract

Objective: To determine if global warming has changed the balance of summer and winter deaths in Australia.

Methods: Counts of summer and winter cause-specific deaths of subjects aged 55 and over for the years 1968–2018 were entered into a Poisson time-series regression. Analysis was stratified by states and territories of Australia, by sex, age and cause of death (respiratory, cardiovascular, and renal diseases). The warmest and coldest subsets of seasons were compared.

Results: Warming over 51 years was associated with a long-term increase in the ratio of summer to winter mortality from 0.73 in the summer of 1969 to 0.83 in the summer of 2018. The increase occurred faster in years that were warmer than average.

Conclusions: Mortality in the warmest and coldest times of the year is converging as annual average temperatures rise.

Implications for public health: If climate change continues, deaths in the hottest months will come to dominate the burden of mortality in Australia.

Read more: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1753-6405.13107

Is this really what the climate alarm movement has come to? A dubious claim that extreme heat is the biggest killer, panic over someone passing out after an office drinking party where the manager was likely paying for the drinks, and a long whinge about people enjoying themselves at the beach in hot weather, instead of focussing on the climate crisis?

What a waste of column inches.

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A happy little debunker
March 18, 2024 2:16 am

Extreme heat or cold was responsible for less than 1% of all deaths, while mildly sub-optimal temperatures accounted for around 7%, with most of those – 6.66% of the total – caused by moderately cold weather. Exposure to cold affects the heart and increases the risk of respiratory infections, says the study.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/21/moderately-cold-weather-more-deadly-than-heatwaves-or-extreme-cold#:~:text=Extreme%20heat%20or%20cold%20was,respiratory%20infections%2C%20says%20the%20study.

When ‘The Guardian’ disagrees with you on the ‘Science’ – can you really call your unsupported assertions ‘Science’?

Reply to  A happy little debunker
March 18, 2024 2:24 am

To Juxtaposition the Guardian and science is an oxymoron. If the Guardian disagrees with me, I consider it a major win.

Rich Davis
Reply to  A happy little debunker
March 18, 2024 4:18 am

You meant of course to say ‘if even The Grauniad won’t support your alarmist assertions…’

MarkW
Reply to  A happy little debunker
March 18, 2024 9:21 am

The Guardian disagrees with me regarding “science” on an almost daily basis.

Reply to  A happy little debunker
March 18, 2024 3:18 pm

A very large proportion of Australians CHOOSE to live in the warmer coastal areas.

None of these areas will ever be susceptible to “cold” deaths, because they don’t get cold.

Even slightly inland where I live, the temperature rarely drops to 0ºC even on cold winter nights.

The whole “survey” is a load of contrived junk science.

strativarius
March 18, 2024 2:18 am

Yes, it’s summer, and yes, it’s hot.”

Then, it most certainly isn’t the UK

Reply to  strativarius
March 18, 2024 4:58 am

Then, it most certainly isn’t the UK

As immortalised in Flanders & Swann’s “A song of the Weather”, dating from the (mid to late ?) 1950s. There’s probably a YouTube of it somewhere …

The two couplets, out of twelve, that have stuck with me over the decades.

“April brings the sweet spring showers …
… on and on for hours and hours.”

and

“In July the sun is hot !
Is it shining ? No it’s not.”

bobpjones
Reply to  Mark BLR
March 18, 2024 5:11 am

And don’t forget, the Gasman Cometh. Rather appropriate at the moment, as we’ve got the gas board digging up the whole street, and inserting new plastic pipes.

Reply to  Mark BLR
March 18, 2024 6:04 am

You mean this
Flanders and Swann

gezza1298
Reply to  strativarius
March 18, 2024 8:59 am

It is when 3 Typhoon fighters go past the low grade weather station next to the runway at RAF Coningsby.

March 18, 2024 2:18 am

According to UAH, summer (Dec-Feb) temperatures in Australia 2023-24 were by far the warmest on record (Feb 2024 still to be added to the official data at time of writing, but confirmed as +1.07C by Roy Spencer here).

So maybe there’s no smoke without fire?

Aus-summer-temps_UAH
leefor
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 2:32 am

And Perth is NOT Australia. But a mere portion. 😉
You just have to keep the (non-alcoholic) liquids up.

strativarius
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 2:48 am

There is always smoke before an EV fire

ozspeaksup
Reply to  strativarius
March 18, 2024 4:21 am

if youre lucky

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 3:11 am

Strong 2023 El Nino… but you knew that…

Totally natural weather event, enhanced by increase solar energy absorption.

Do you have evidence of human causation ?

There are 16 months in UAH Australia with an anomaly greater than 1.07C.. so nothing unusual at all.

And not much in the way of fires or smoke in Australia the last few years.. !!

So your whole comment is alarmist gibberish.

Reply to  bnice2000
March 18, 2024 4:13 am

Strong 2023 El Nino… but you knew that…

Not nearly as strong those that occurred in 1998 or 2015, yet new record warmth. It’s almost as if there’s an underlying driver causing the warming.

There are 16 months in UAH Australia with an anomaly greater than 1.07C.. so nothing unusual at all.

How many Australian summers had an anomaly greater than +1.3C in UAH; summer being the subject of this post and my comment?

Hint: none. The next warmest was +0.65C.

strativarius
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 4:24 am

Why not compile your top twenty, Bob and post it?

The big ole bottom line is, models are evidence of zero squared and there is no evidence that we as a species do anything like what is claimed – even in the literature, which is deeply sus post 2009.

It’s a lovely spring day and the only real crisis is having to out in my polluting vehicle to get more beer – but don’t worry, both beer and petrol are taxed exorbitantly to fund green stuff….

MarkW
Reply to  strativarius
March 18, 2024 9:27 am

Of course he won’t do that.
1) It involves actual work.
2) It might not support the narrative.

Reply to  strativarius
March 18, 2024 4:11 pm

Why not compile your top twenty, Bob and post it?

Top 20 what?

And who’s Bob?

MarkW
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 9:26 am

Are you going to claim that CO2 caused this 0.7C in 8 years, warming trend?

Reply to  MarkW
March 18, 2024 11:00 am

Not surprisingly, some of the trendologists actually think that. They think ENSO and CO2 are the only main things that have affected the climate over the past 45 years.

Reply to  walter.h893
March 18, 2024 1:46 pm

Actually, fungal totally DENIES the warming from natural El Nino events.

Reply to  bnice2000
March 18, 2024 2:26 pm

I’ve been reading these forums for like 3 years now, and he’s stayed the exact same: he just thread bombs with the same predictable arguments. It’s a waste of time to try to engage intellectually with him.

Reply to  walter.h893
March 18, 2024 3:10 pm

It doesn’t have any usable intellect. It cannot face reality, so it cannot learn.

I only respond to show everyone else how stupidly wrong it constantly is.

Reply to  MarkW
March 18, 2024 4:12 pm

What is it about CO2 that fixates you guys?

I haven’t mentioned it.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 5:28 pm

Great to see you yet again admitting that the atmospheric temperature rise is TOTALLY NATURAL.. and has NO HUMAN CAUSATION.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 5:42 pm

You know the reason you don’t mention CO2 is because you know can’t produce any evidence of CO2 having any warming effect.

You are just yapping for the sake of yapping.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 6:31 pm

It is the mindless AGW alarmists like you that have a FIXATION ON CO2.

If they didn’t, they would not be trying to reduce CO2 emissions and pushing crazy anti-human agendas like Net-Zero.

Oh by the way….. No evidence of fossil fuels driving CO2 levels.

The Conclusion Humans Drive Atmospheric CO2 Increases Is Undermined By Carbon Isotope Data (notrickszone.com)

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 10:57 am

Not nearly as strong those that occurred in 1998 or 2015, yet new record warmth. It’s almost as if there’s an underlying driver causing the warming.

Here’s something you’re not going to like. Since you like using Dr. Spencer as an appeal to authority when you agree with him, here’s what he said in his July 2023 LT report:

These results suggest something peculiar is going on. It’s too early for the developing El Nino in the Pacific to have much effect on the tropospheric temperature record. The Hunga Tonga sub-surface ocean volcano eruption and its “unprecedented” production of extra stratospheric water vapor could be to blame.

Reply to  walter.h893
March 18, 2024 4:23 pm

Did you read what he went on to say the following month in his August 2023 LT report?

As mentioned last month, along with the natural warming of the current El Niño event, we are analyzing the potential (and natural) warming impacts of the 2022 eruption of the Hunga Tonga submarine volcano and its injection of water vapor into the stratosphere. Normally, a major tropical eruption would send large amounts of gasses such as sulfur dioxide up that high which form sun-reflecting aerosols leading to a cooling of the Earth’s lower atmosphere.

However, the Hunga Tonga submarine volcano eruption injected large amounts of water vapor into the stratosphere which may be overriding any aerosol cooling effects and lead to a net warming of the atmosphere. At this point, it appears this influence will be minor, perhaps a few hundredths of degree.

So that sort of blows the “Hunga Tonga dunnit” theory out of the water – so to speak.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 4:44 pm

My main point was more about what he said regarding the unusual conditions that are persisting 8 months later. Not so much Hunga Tonga; that’s why I didn’t highlight it in bold. These unusual conditions cannot be pinned on global warming, as that is long-term. Global warming could have stopped years ago, and the spike would probably have still broken the record.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 5:30 pm

NO, it is Roy’s “opinion” only.

What don’t you comprehend about the words “it appears “

Or are you so gormless that you think that somehow constitutes evidence of anything.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 11:52 am

Still DENYING that there is current a strong EL Nino…

… enough to warm the whole tropics by nearly 1C in 6-7 months.

Still absolutely no evidence of any human causation

What a weak-minded fool you really are.

No-one around here has made a single comment about it being a warm summer, because, where most people live, it hasn’t been particularly warm.. just a normal, but a bit wet, summer.

Notice you slimed away from the “fire” comment.. been very few of those either.

Reply to  bnice2000
March 18, 2024 4:25 pm

Still DENYING that there is current a strong EL Nino…

Nope, just pointing out that there have been several stronger ones in the past. What’s special about this one that it’s breaking all these new records?

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 5:32 pm

OMG, you are such a dumb person.

It is on top of the warming from the 2015 and smaller 2020 El Ninos..

And of course, the timing is different from the two previous El Ninos.. having a bigger effect in the Australia Summer than usual.

It is still a total nothing burger.

At least you have now admitted it is a TOTALLY NATURAL occurrence..

… with no evidence of any human causation.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 12:03 pm

Wow.. 0.65C in a strong NATURALLY OCCURRING El Nino.

Talk about a total nothing burger. !!

Reply to  bnice2000
March 18, 2024 4:35 pm

I don’t think you’re following this.

+0.65C was the previous warmest summer temperature anomaly for Australia in the UAH_TLT record, set in summer 2018-19. That beat the previous record by +0.02C, or 2-one hundredths of a degree (set first in 1990-91 and matched in 2016-17)

Summer 2023-24 beat the previous record by +0.40C!

Note the decimal places. That’s 4 tenths of a degree.

Take a look at the chart:

Aus-summer-temps_UAH
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 4:57 pm

Note the decimal places. That’s 4 tenths of a degree.

Shiver me timbers!

Reply to  walter.h893
March 18, 2024 5:38 pm

Yep, 4 tenth of a degree of natural warming from a very strong El Nino ….

… and the fungus goes into a mindless panic. ! 🙂

It is really quiet stupid, even as slap-stick comedy !

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 5:34 pm

Thanks for confirming that it is total nothing burger that no-one would even notice unless for the mindless yapping of alarmists.

And of course, TOTALLY NATURAL.. with no human causation.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 7:30 pm

I don’t think you are following this.

Temperature anomalies are statistical constructs with no intensive or extensive properties. As such, temperature anomalies never killed anyone.

It takes an actual temperature with intensive properties to do that.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 1:48 pm

It’s almost as if there’s an underlying driver causing the warming.”

You mean THE SUN and solar energy… right.!

Absorbed-solar-radiation
sturmudgeon
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 19, 2024 4:13 pm

 It’s almost as if there’s an underlying driver causing the warming.”
Give my ‘warmest’ regards to those driving all the panicky hot air.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 3:18 am

Everyone can see the strong COOLING trend on your graph from 1998-2015.

Then the effect of two strong El Ninos.

How did human CO2 cause that 16+ year-long cooling period ?

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 5:20 am

… summer (Dec-Feb) temperatures in Australia 2023-24

As “an interested amateur” … definitely not “an expert” ! … I have learned the “basics / fundamentals” of the wide-ranging scientific domain crudely labelled “climate science” from the IPCC.

AR6, WG-I report, “Annex VII : Glossary”, page 2222 :

Climate Climate in a narrow sense is usually defined as the average weather, or more rigorously, as the statistical description in terms of the mean and variability of relevant quantities over a period of time ranging from months to thousands or millions of years. The classical period for averaging these variables is 30 years, as defined by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). The relevant quantities are most often surface variables such as temperature, precipitation and wind. Climate in a wider sense is the state, including a statistical description, of the climate system.

Climate change A change in the state of the climate that can be identified (e.g., by using statistical tests) by changes in the mean and/or the variability of its properties and that persists for an extended period, typically decades or longer.

Please try again.

PS (to other readers) : One of my main strategies here is colloquially known as “beat them to death with their own data / arguments”.

Reply to  Mark BLR
March 19, 2024 4:26 pm

Can you tell me how this is supposed to beat them to death?

Reply to  nyolci
March 20, 2024 2:31 am

Lack of comprehension…. again… you poor thing !

Reply to  bnice2000
March 20, 2024 1:54 pm

Exactly. Mark must’ve realized he’s made a mistake.

Reply to  nyolci
March 21, 2024 8:25 am

Mark must’ve realized he’s made a mistake.

Your assumption is incorrect.

I stand by my OP.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Can you tell me how this is supposed to beat them to death?

No.

It is my opinion that the phrase “There are none so blind as those who will not see” is applicably here, hence my lack of reaction to your question.

Reply to  Mark BLR
March 21, 2024 5:25 pm

Okay, again. You obviously think the IPCC AR6 definitions of Climate and Climate Change contradict each other. Of course they do not. That’s why I asked you to explain why you thought that. So that we can work together to pinpoint the problem.

Reply to  nyolci
March 22, 2024 4:34 am

You obviously think the IPCC AR6 definitions of Climate and Climate Change contradict each other.

What the …

Is English your second (or third) language ?

The OP, by TFN, that I initially quoted was going on about “summer (Dec-Feb) temperatures in Australia” and how they “were by far the warmest on record”.

I responded by pointing out that the IPCC cites the standard WMO “integration period” of 30 years for “climate” and requires that any change “persists for … decades or longer” before it can be considered as “climate change”.

That’s why I asked you to explain why you thought that.

You did not ask : “Why do you think that the IPCC definitions CONTRADICT EACH OTHER ?”

You asked : “Can you tell me how this is supposed to beat them to death?”

Please attend some “basic English comprehension” classes.

So that we can work together to pinpoint the problem.

You are not a professor, and I am not a student.

I have already identified “the problem” on my own.

You, incorrectly, persist in conflating your phantasmagorical “interpretations” of my posts — probably along with those of an unknown number of other posters — with “reality”.

Reply to  Mark BLR
March 22, 2024 6:10 am

Is English your second (or third) language ?

Second, but here it’s irrelevant. What you wrote could’ve been interpreted in multiple ways.

they “were by far the warmest on record”.

You’re right if you claim that individual records don’t count. But…

requires that any change “persists for … decades or longer

And this is what’s happening. In other words, we’ve been experiencing newer and newer records around the globe for decades now. Sporadic records are just variability but this is well beyond being sporadic. This year is special because almost everywhere we see records that are considerably higher than previous ones.

You did not ask : […] You asked : […]

Actually, what I asked for was clarification. You didn’t answer first and then you came up with some non-answer.

Reply to  nyolci
March 22, 2024 8:38 am

What you wrote could’ve been interpreted in multiple ways.

That is correct.

And yet how did you decide to “interpret” my initial silence and subsequent response ?

“Mark must’ve realized he’s made a mistake.”

“You obviously think the IPCC AR6 definitions of Climate and Climate Change contradict each other.”

You continue to “move the goalposts”, which is a well-known logical fallacy.

Actually, what I asked for was clarification.

Yes, but what did you initially seek “clarification” about ?

“Can you tell me how this is supposed to beat them to death?”

You are now talking about “we’ve been experiencing newer and newer records around the globe for decades now” and “This year is special because almost everywhere we see records that are considerably higher than previous ones.”

You continue to “move the goalposts”, which is a well-known logical fallacy.
_ _ _ _ _ _

AR6, WG-I report, SPM-5, footnote [9] (to paragraph A.1.2, at the bottom of page 5) :

The period 1850–1900 represents the earliest period of sufficiently globally complete observations to estimate global surface temperature and, consistent with AR5 and SR1.5, is used as an approximation for pre-industrial conditions.

Please consider the attached graph.

According to the BEST (Air) GMST data product, how much “climate change” has their been from the “pre-industrial proxy” 1850-1900 average ?
1) Approximately +1.85°C
2) Just under 1.6°C
3) Just over 1°C
4) Other (please show your working)

Weather-vs-climate_BEST-version_1
Reply to  Mark BLR
March 22, 2024 10:37 am

And yet how did you decide to “interpret” my initial silence

I didn’t do anything, for that matter. Bnice answered and I reacted to that.

seek “clarification” about

I honestly didn’t know what you meant.

You continue to “move the goalposts”

I’m kinda surprised by your interpretation. I try to grasp how you could misunderstand what I said.

how much “climate change” has their been from the “pre-industrial proxy” 1850-1900 average ?

We are again in the “non-answer” territory. I’m not getting what your point is with this. Or rather I’m just guessing that you feel that using different quantities we get “different” answers and you think this somehow makes the whole thing contradictory or something along these lines.
The graph is actually showing climate change very well. Now obviously we are interested in the averages, the smoothing, where the different windows give you different answers when there’s change (and a rapid one!), for obvious reasons. When we are in equilibrium (no change or no this rapid change that we have today) the various smoothings show essentially the same with different variance (like the first half of the graph). As for your actual question a trendline is the usual answer, and this, just as anything else, can be done in multiple ways, but the usual value that it gives is around 1.2C (as far as I can remember).

Reply to  nyolci
March 22, 2024 8:47 am

… how much “climate change” has their been from …

I know, I know !

After questioning your English level … “their” —> “there” …

Reply to  Mark BLR
March 22, 2024 10:05 am

“their” —> “there” …

This was accidental.

Reply to  Mark BLR
March 22, 2024 11:37 am

Furthermore I very often mistype words (“no” instead of “not”, singular instead of plural). These are accidental, too. I’m always embarrassed when I re-read my posts seeing these simple errors.

Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 7:43 am

Sorry, I really can’t get worked up into a frenzy like communist useful idiots can, about a measly 1° C over most of my lifetime.

Speaking from Canada, even the most southern part, that is not a crisis, just a good start. Let me know when we get to the climate optimum of 6000 BC.

MarkW
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 9:24 am

It’s been warming for over 200 years.
The warming started well over 100 years before CO2 started rising.
The rate of warming shows no sign of increasing, despite the fact that CO2 levels are now rising.
Of course the only possible explanation for this warming is the increase in CO2.

Reply to  MarkW
March 18, 2024 1:44 pm

Fungal KNOWS the slight beneficial warming has all been TOTALLY NATURAL.

It knows it is totally incapable of producing any evidence of human causation except very localised things like urban warming and land use changes.

There is no evidence that ANYTHING humans have done has affected the “global” climate.

Rasa
Reply to  TheFinalNail
March 18, 2024 8:35 pm

Love the term “average temperature anomaly”. Why not just compare every individual temperature records available say over the last 150-200 years and see what that tells.
Global Warming is partisan BS😩

March 18, 2024 2:52 am

Smoothing the ratio curve hides a lot of inconvenient data.

Just going by that chart, I’d guess the steady rise of summer deaths is due to Australia’s population going up. Winter deaths jump all over, and since cold causes more deaths, it would be reasonable to assume the winter spikes are due to extra cold winters, and the low winter death years were somewhat warmer than usual due to climate change.

So climate change is beneficial.

Ron Long
March 18, 2024 2:54 am

There are probably additional factors involved in the slight change of summer/winter deathrates. Maybe people take more vacations in summer and over-exert? Maybe the cost of air conditioning causes less use? Maybe changes in the culture leads to more stress in summer? The mentioned study is too simple to be interpreted in any reasonable way.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 18, 2024 4:26 am

yup when you dont have aircon at all, going out n about isnt a huge rise in body demands. when youre keeping home n cars at 10 or 20 and its high 30s to 40ish outside the sudden rise stresses your system a lot more. if its 40c outside its around 36 inside my place. the dogs get use of a floorfan or go under the house where its a LOT cooler.
I dont fit there:-(( wish i did

old cocky
Reply to  ozspeaksup
March 18, 2024 2:48 pm

if its 40c outside its around 36 inside my place. 

My passive cooling is better than yours, so there.
We usually don’t bother with the air conditioning unless the forecast is for over 40.

or go under the house where its a LOT cooler.

I dont fit there:-(( wish i did

The spiders and snakes probably wouldn’t like extra company, anyway.

Reply to  Ron Long
March 18, 2024 9:10 am

Ironically, the lack of availability and/or affordability of air conditioning due to excessive reliance on expensive and unreliable wind and solar for electricity generation probably is behind some or maybe even most or all of the increase in heat related death rates.

It certainly isn’t “climate change,” lol.

Richard Greene
March 18, 2024 3:54 am

in SE Michigan we had the coolest summer (2023) with the most rain (by far) followed by the warmest winter (2023 / 2024)) with the least snow (by far) since 1977/

Local climate change matters FAR MORE than a global average temperature

The Climate Blubber Theory
(Nobel Prize pending)

Over time a higher percentage of people have become fat or obese.

For them the hot weather feels hotter than it would have if they were young, before they piled on the blubber, even if the temperature had not warmed slightly since they were young.

Dr. Greene’s prescriptions

Don’t like a warmer climate?
Then lose weight

Slim pretty girls should wear tiny string bikinis
to beat the heat.

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Greene
March 18, 2024 4:28 am

For a while last Thursday, it looked like we would have over 10 meters of snow covering everything by now. Fortunately the snow stopped but my back is still a little sore.

strativarius
Reply to  Richard Greene
March 18, 2024 5:20 am

Dr. Greene’s prescriptions”

Are they cheaper or more expensive than the Glorious NHS (£9.65 per item) ???

NB I know exactly how to abuse this body and will continue to do so.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  strativarius
March 18, 2024 9:08 am

Come to Wales – prescriptions are free.

strativarius
Reply to  Dave Andrews
March 18, 2024 10:00 am

Funded by…..

March 18, 2024 4:59 am

My engineering instinct suggests that optimum is when heat death=cold deaths, ratio = 1.0. Likely also a minimum of heat + cold. Look there for the deception.

Reply to  ni4et
March 18, 2024 4:15 pm

The ratio might never reach that point, and certainly not in most of the world where cold-related deaths outnumber heat related roughly 7-10 to 1. At 1 degree per half century, if it continues – no guarantees there even if AGW were true – and knowing that the warming only seems to be affecting the lows – then it would be centuries, if ever that heat deaths would equal cold deaths.

Richard M
March 18, 2024 5:42 am

Increased ratio of summer to winter deaths due to climate warming in Australia, 1968–2018

A ratio can be affected by changes in either item being compared. It could be a reduced risk of dying during the winter.

The graph itself looks like both death numbers are following population increases. You would need to divide each by the population increase to determine if there’s been any increase.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard M
March 18, 2024 9:31 am

You might also want to factor in the cost of energy in both winter and summer deaths.
It doesn’t matter if your house has AC/heat, if you can’t afford to run it.

March 18, 2024 6:09 am

The man probably wouldn’t have fainted without the after-work drinks, and they should have really got him a taxi rather than walk him to his car.
But I am wondering what the summer deaths were like during the last centennial solar minimum in the late 1800’s, Australia was really hot then, and they didn’t have air conditioning.

https://joannenova.com.au/2015/01/forgotten-extreme-heat-el-nino-of-1878-when-miners-yearned-for-the-years-when-theyd-knock-off-at-44-4c/

Walter Sobchak
March 18, 2024 6:15 am

If someone passes out after drinking, the last thing you should do is escort him to his car. You could be responsible if he drives while still intoxicated and crashes into someone.

Either call the emergency medical squad, or send him home in a cab or an uber.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
March 18, 2024 6:36 am

Or if he passes out again because of a health issue

March 18, 2024 7:20 am

“What a waste of column inches.”

Since fewer and fewer people are buying newspapers, most of the column inches are wasted anyway.

Reply to  Jim Masterson
March 18, 2024 9:07 am

“What a waste of column inches”
One of the problems with the internet is the availability of far too many “column inches” and the filling of those “column inches” by people who don’t even try to research their “whim” articles, or if they do, available is an internet so full of diverse opinions that any slant on a topic will come up with hundreds of thousands of “hits” to confirm the author’s bias.

observa
March 18, 2024 7:21 am

In Adelaide we usually look to Perth weather to see what’s coming our way but as the link comparison of States shows it didn’t-

It was a cool and wet summer for Adelaide, with the city’s mean temperature ranking as the fourth coolest so far this century….

Nights were particularly chilly for the season, averaging 16 degrees at Adelaide’s West Terrace station.

Yep apart from a couple of days the aircon was hardly on with the cool nights and it must have been them thar Indian Ocean dipoles messing with the El Ninos or whatever. Still they just can’t help themselves emphasising the couple of hot days we finally got recently to prove it really was summer we’ve just been through-

But, on the whole, South Australia still finished the season with warmer than usual temperature for most of the state.

They’re so bloody predictable unlike the weather.

Reply to  observa
March 18, 2024 4:18 pm

Also not a particularly warm Summer here in South Eastern Victoria. A bit warmer than the last 3 years or so, which have been notably cool and wet, but certainly nothing to write home about.

I remember the day I moved into my current house, back in 2016 in late December, it was 45C. I remember this because I burned my hand on the top of my new fridge after it was in direct sun for a few minutes. This summer, we have had maybe a couple of days above 35C, with the recent “severe heatwave” in early March where it got to the mid 30s for three days. Granted, it was warmer in the North West of the state (where I was for that time), with temps close to 40C. But for that area, those temperatures are not unusual, even in early March. There’s a lot of deliberate fear mongering going on.

It would appear that something different is happening in the Indian Ocean that isn’t lining up with the normal El Nino/La Nina cycles that is resulting in particularly warm conditions in WA that aren’t lining up with what is happening to the East as it normally does.

Laws of Nature
March 18, 2024 7:21 am

>> Is this really what the climate alarm movement has come to? A dubious claim that extreme heat is the biggest killer, panic over someone passing out after an office drinking party

What else do they have? What else did they ever have?
Beside a long track records of models, where each generation gets clearly falsified by the next one!)

  • from Exxon knew – nothing as they used bad models!

to

  • CMIP6 models find an about 25% different CO2-sensitivity to comparable CMIP5 scenarios, likely due to better cloud parametrization

=> which means all this discussions we saw here over the last years (and CMIP5 results still
keep popping up now and then) are just bad science

“I have always been warning about climate change!” is one of my favorite lines!
First of all, let´s figure out the anthropogenic CO2 contribution to global warming, BEFORE we make the topic more complicated and talk about consequences
AND most importantly, as we now know without doubt that the older models were not good (aka very bad), WHY did you make strong statements based on shady data and why should be believe now?
If we do not learn from history, we will repeat the same mistakes!

March 18, 2024 8:12 am

At an after-work drinks event I attended, a man fainted and collapsed. We gave him water and walked him to his car, through the city.

So like good Aussies, we walked the drunken blighter to his car, wished him well, then allowed him to drive veering through the streets home. “Good on ya, Bruce.”

Mr.
March 18, 2024 9:02 am

My response to a claim in Aussie media that “heat is now the cause of more deaths in Australia than all other natural disasters combined”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yeah there’s not many places in Australia where you’d die of cold.

But surely Shirley, heat is only a situation that may distress / exacerbate existing underlying health ailments such as diabetes, heart diseases, etc etc.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics report on annual causes of deaths (2022) doesn’t mention “heat”.

But it does report that, for example, drug overdoses accounted for 1,799 Aussies a year.

So what is the official data source that puts “heat” as the no.1 PRIMARY CAUSE killer of all natural disasters combined?

(Asking for 26,997,957 Aussie friends)

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Of course my comment was rejected.

March 18, 2024 9:29 am

That plot looks like overall deaths, not deaths per million. Hence, the upward trend would be heavily skewed by an increasing population. Then one would have to take in changing demographics: —with immigrants from humid tropical Asian climates less prepared for dry desert heat climate.

March 18, 2024 9:41 am

To borrow a page from the Covid era…are these people who died of heat, or with heat? I suspect the number of heat related deaths will become greatly exaggerated with people who die for any reason on a hot day.

kwinterkorn
March 18, 2024 9:51 am

The ratio could change due to increased heat deaths…..

…..or it could change due to reduced cold deaths. Fewer dying humans might actually be a good thing, though we’ll have to fight to get the Greens to accept that.

kwinterkorn
Reply to  kwinterkorn
March 18, 2024 9:55 am

Add on: population aging will add inevitably to both heat and cold deaths.

March 18, 2024 12:57 pm

Dumb question.
Below the equator, do they reverse what they call the seasons? Is “summer” called “winter”?
(I’d heard once that the only really dumb question is the one you don’t ask.) 😎

old cocky
Reply to  Gunga Din
March 18, 2024 2:56 pm

The northern hemisphere summer occurs at the same time as the southern hemisphere winter, if that helps.

Officially, our summer in Aus is December – February.

Reply to  old cocky
March 19, 2024 4:18 pm

Thanks.
So the terms “summer” and “winter” aren’t locked into the calendar months for NH and SH.
I knew the temps “switched” but I guess I assumed the season’s names were the same, NH an SH, until this post. I don’t know why I never thought to ask that before!
Time for one my favorite secular quotes?

“Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.”
Will Rogers

Bob
March 18, 2024 1:25 pm

Very nice Eric.

The CAGW crowd has nothing, they rely on climate models and anecdotal evidence with a hefty dose of lies. Has the CAGW community come up with any proper scientific evidence to support their claims? It has been over thirty years now hasn’t it? If they had come up with anything it would be plastered all over every news outlet 24/7. They have nothing but lies and fear mongering.

March 18, 2024 1:38 pm

Worldwide, about 4.5 million people die from cold-related causes compared to about 500,000 people dying from heat-related causes each year. Cold or cool air causes our blood vessels to constrict causing blood pressure to rise and that causes more strokes and heart attacks during the cooler months worldwide.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext

March 18, 2024 6:33 pm

Interesting..

New study finds no isotopic evidence of fossil fuels causing the rise in atmospheric CO2. !

The Conclusion Humans Drive Atmospheric CO2 Increases Is Undermined By Carbon Isotope Data (notrickszone.com)

Reply to  bnice2000
March 19, 2024 4:08 am

Oh my, someone won’t like this.

Rasa
March 18, 2024 8:30 pm

What a mindless article. These “scientists” should be retasked into something useful.
First up it would be interesting to see the definition of “…..Counts of summer and winter cause-specific deaths” I mean who dies from summer or winter exposure….?😳
How do you define a death caused by winter or summer?