From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
The Met Office was desperate to declare the warmest Xmas on record – sadly all they could claim was the warmest since 2016!
For most, of course, such things are just a bit of fun. But for the Met Office, it is a chance to push their global warming propaganda.
Never mind the fact the 25th December has no more significance than any other day in the month.
And, as usual, they try to find significance in one day at Exeter being warmer than some other place in years past.
If you want to present an objective analysis, you must use data from the same location or other source. Otherwise you are simply comparing apples and oranges.
The obvious database is the CET, and this gives the lie to claims that our climate is somehow changing rapidly, at least in December.
The chart below only runs to 2020 and shows the highest December temperature recorded each year since 1900. There is little sign of temperatures shooting up, other than the outlier in 2015. What is more noticeable is that exceptionally cold Decembers used to be more common – in 1933, for instance, daytime temperatures never got above 6.4C:
https://www.ecad.eu/indicesextremes/index.php
The highest temperature this month is 13.4C, which is unexceptional by any standard. The last two Decembers were 14.1C and 13.5C.
The mild weather this Xmas is just that – WEATHER. And it is just the same weather we get at times during most years in December, typically a southwesterly airflow.
Good comment by Paul. These types of Reality Checks appear to me to be getting some traction. Yes, it is possible that our data versus their feelings are beginning to register with the public.
global warming propaganda.
And today’s BBC propaganda is… Flat packs.
“” What is made from the same wood as a Christmas tree, held together by glue and manufactured in a Swedish factory for assembly later?
…
If you answered “a wooden wind turbine”, you could be a visionary.
According to Modvion, the Swedish start-up that has just built the world’s tallest wooden turbine tower, using wood for wind power is the future.“”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67718719
Yes, it’s most definitely back to the future
PS
Wood? That’s 10 years at best….
Softwood and glue, sounds perfect for a long life.
Just outside 😀
“From the outside, there is little obvious difference between the Modvion wooden turbine and its steel cousins.
Both have a thick white coating to protect them from the elements and blades made primarily from fibreglass attached to a generator, which produces electricity when it turns.
It is only when we go inside the tower that the differences becomes clear. The walls have a curved raw wood finish, not unlike a sauna.”
I thought it obvious. Given the huge number of wind turbines needed to keep the illusion of renewable energy going, you’re looking at a fair modicum of deforestation – along with the wood needed for the futuristic sailing ships etc.
According to Modvion:
Low Towers – Low Revenues.
High Towers – High Revenues
https://modvion.com/
And then there are the subsidies….
Ahh, the subsidies
Eagles dying of DDT? Horrible! Ban DDT!
Eagles dying in windmill blades? Meh. Who needs eagles?
Mountaintop removal for coal? Horrible!
Mountaintop removal for windmills? Wow, look at those windmills up there!
Foresting to build houses? Evil!
Foresting to build windmills? Yay!
Clear fields to grow food? Eat insects, plebs!
Clear cut forests, desert, tundra to set up a solar farm? We are the elite!
How many forests have been cut down to build solar farms?
You can grow food under solar panels… Youtube ‘agrivoltaics’…
You can grow food on a granite countertop. Should you?
@JohnC I bet the coating and glue are both polyurethane based. These adhesives are generally prepared from petroleum-based and non-biodegradable synthetic prepolymers.
Meaning no recycling will be possible.
lots of woody biomass power plants in Scandinavia so they can burn it
Don’t park any EVs by it.
I presume turbine towers have lightning rods on them? If not, wood towers won’t last long.
That was my thought as well. The construction material for the towers surely is only a relatively minor consideration, what sort of foundations are required to support these monstrous structures?
Heh, you’ll be lucky. 6 months or so – long enough for the seller to cash the cheques and wash their hands of the whole thing.
Call for Mr Creosote!
Much like boat hulls, obviously… That damn wood… it’s useless.
Just think, all those CO2 absorbing trees, felled to make a wooden turbine tower, to save on CO2 emissions.
Are they for real?
Yes they are but are indicative of vastly greater numbers who aren’t
Very interesting. As a forester who likes to see wood products- I should like the idea- but I don’t because I hate the idea of net zero. No doubt the forestry community will buy into this idea – as they’re already pitching the use of the same kind of wood (cross laminated timbers) for tall buildings. I approve of it for tall buildings. Unfortunately, most of the forestry community is too cowardly to oppose the net zero tyrants.
I’m sending the link to the forestry people in central New England to see what they think of it. “Oh, a new market for wood” they’ll say.
http://www.wiesbadenaktuell.de/typo3temp/pics/726aecd332.jpg
Wood hybrid residential tower nearby
next I expect to see hand carved wood EVs for the ultra elite
Morgan+0, anyone?
Being shaped like a chimney, they will really burn well. A bit of arson wouldn’t come amiss (not that I would ever advocate such a thing!)
Someone at the insurance company will ytack your fuel purchases.
Hey, they have to use the forests cleared to make way for the wind turbines for something.
Either that or send them to Drax.
Windpower is the biggest con ever – but solar power, on the other hand…
You can buy today in the U.K. 4000W of solar panels for about £1,200. You can buy a 5kWh battery for £1,000. This is game changing stuff. Solar panels that will work for the rest of your life (yes, they don’t magically stop working after 25 years, companies just guarantee they will give a certain percentage of their output after 25 years, which is normally around 80-85% of their original output).
I have solar panels, I know how they work, and how well they work, and how they protect me from the Net Zero idiots who will ensure that my grid electricity supply is going to have regular power cuts, as their insane policies take a tighter tighter grip on us all. I would advise you all here to do the same – you are going to find your lives VERY difficult once we are living like South Africans, with constant power cuts, on a daily basis. Even a simple 4kW solar panel system and a couple of 5kWh batteries will protect you from this. But I know – ‘solar power is bad’ because ‘the man is forcing me to adopt it’. LOL.
I know that wind power is a con compared to solar power because it’s nigh on impossible to find a cost per kWh for wind power, whereas for solar power I can work it out myself… using my own system…
The larger a horizontal axis wind turbine gets (convention three bladed (shit) design), the more space there is between the blades, and the slower the blades have to turn (RPM) – thus a HUGE amount of the wind passes straight through the spaces in between the blades and has ZERO effect on them. Try talking to wind power zealots about this and they’ll lose their rag, and can’t debate you on it. Imagine a wind turbine with blades a mile long. They would be turning at incredibly low RPM, otherwise the blade tips would be moving at supersonic speeds, and they would have disintegrated long before that. So imagine how much of the wind that passes through the swept area of those MILE LONG blades has no effect on the blades because it’s HALF A MILE away from the blades!
Commercial wind turbines are already laughably too large and can never give out a decent amount of energy per pound spent on them.
Using conventional boat sails to catch the blade, a la ‘Cretan windmill’ style, would be far more cost effective – but try talking to any windpower zealot about this. Ooh…. not ‘modern’ and ‘industrial’ enough for them, it can’t be good!
Solar panels, on the other hand, should be on the roofs of every house on the planet, and every house should have at least 10kWh of battery storage. Solar farms are also invisible from just about everywhere around them, due to these amazing things we have called ‘hedges’, which is why you can’t see into most farmers’ fields when you drive past them…
I think solar panels have their uses. If it becomes economically viable to supply myself with electricity using solar panels, I would do so. Especially considering the climbing electric prices I’m paying lately.
Everyone should try to become as self-sufficient as they can because the future is uncertain, especially when we are being governed by morons, as is the case today.
If this happened to one these wooden structures?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12906853/Astonishing-moment-Storm-Gerrit-tears-wind-turbine-apart-85mph-gales-barreled-Britain.html
The warmest Christmas Day was in 1920, according to the same article.
Let’s not forget December 2010, the UK’s coldest for over 100 years.
I don’t trust that anyone knows “UK’s temperature” for any year, including this one.
” Hottest Christmas since whenever …”
Tell that to the people living in China.
“mild weather this Xmas”
Ya must be joking. Since a week last Tuesday, all we’ve had has been strong winds and rain! It’s a toss up, whether I develop webbed feet, or ‘trench foot’. Footpaths, that look like the quagmires of the Somme. We’re all fed up, and long for something nice, like a good old hard freezing time.
But I hear, there’s another four storms to come? 😒
“mild” means “not cold”… not “dry”.
I can’t remember ever longing for a good old hard freezing time. It sounds awful.
Crisp and cold, very invigorating. Living in the UK, quite often our cold, is laden with dampness. That is awful.
At first they were trying to claim record warmth for Christmas Eve. With both BBC weather and Zoom Earth stating at the time that the temps in my local area were at 14C by 11am.
Had the weather been clear and sunny with a gentle southern wind then yes maybe. But with a west wind blowing at force 4 to 5 along with heavy cloud cover l through no chance.
So l put my thermometer outside on a north facing window sill for half an hour and it showed the temp to be only 12.6C at the same time. The temp mostly settled around 13C between 12am and 3pm and only briefly went to 13.7C when sun showed though the clouds for 3 or 4 minutes. In furture when are claiming record high temps l will be putting my thermometer outside to test their claims.
They set themselves up for a huuuuge fall, and it came to them.
The Claim was that, based on a thermometer at Heathrow Airport (also nearby Slough) that recorded a record Xmas Eve, that Christmas Day would be even hotter and thus an all-time record for UK Christmas Day.
Instinctively you knew they were on to a loser and they were so hence why we see this number from Exeter. They turned UK upside down to find as big a number as poss.
No surprise Exeter, that corner of England has an average year-round temp easily 2 Celsius above everywhere else.
I took a screenshot but can’t find it now to explain and it was an absolute beauty.
The incoming storm (Gerrit) was working to pull immense amounts of air off the southern Sahara. Fine. OK. That’s what happens.
BUT, the previous storm heading out over Scandavia got hold of that air, meaning that after it left Africa heading west, it did a full 180 degree turn through north then east and came barrelling out of the west across southern England like a barrelling thing.
It was a classic Saharan Plume but inside of coming directly north over France, it went out to sea, skirted clockwise around the Bay of Biscay then landed on Cornwall/Devon
Hence the high temp at Exeter, that reading was the dying ember of that hot Saharan airflow as Gerrit moved north and eastwards over Ireland and could no longer drag it in to itself.
Yes once it has spent sometime out over the Atlantic then its lost some of its warmth and gained alot of cloud cover. To have a hope of hitting the 14C to 15C highs the BBC weather were claiming here in North Linc’s then the wind would have needed to be coming from the South to SW along with plenty of sunshine.
Here in Hampshire on the South Coast of Uk , I was reading 12.5 C on outside temperature that day . The device is situated in the shade
Yes near the coast it was always going to remain cooler then the temps been suggested.
There’s a new push to help migrants in Massachusetts find work, but many barriers still stand in the way
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/12/27/business/migrant-crisis-massachusetts-work-permits-jobs/
Wokeachusetts is being over run. The state government is nuts. Net zero nuts and migrant nuts.
Yesterday Bibi N. of Israel said it was the responsibility of U.S. and Europe to take in tons of refugees from Gaza.
not gonna happen
Russia should take them- they’re short of people after millions left to avoid the war and many have been killed and wounded in Ukraine. I wonder if they’ll appreciate a Russian winter? And before their bags are unpacked, they’ll be sent to Ukraine.
Says Google:
Russia Population
143.4 million (2021)
They have room.
Responsibility? That’s a good one. How on earth do they reckon that?
Isn’t it odd that the U.K. apparently can’t stop hundreds of thousands of young men (over the past five years) invading our country in small boats, but Israel is allowed to force TWO MILLION people off their own land, while murdering 20,000 of them, half of whom are children, under the age of 14, and our ‘government’ and ‘media’ doesn’t condemn this ongoing atrocity… It’s almost like some people ‘from Israel’ are in control of our ‘democratic’ government, and our entire media… LOL. Just like the Global Warming lies, our media is hiding the reality of what is happening in Gaza, so they are complicit in the ongoing mass murder of thousands of people…
“but Israel is allowed to force TWO MILLION people off their own land, while murdering 20,000 of them, half of whom are children, under the age of 14,”
You’ve obviously drank of the Hamas Koolaide.
Israel wasn’t killing anyone before Oct. 7, 2023. What happened on Oct. 7, 2023, that changed this situation? Who should we blame for the death of innocents on both sides? I blame the Hamas terrorists. They are the cause of the deaths of innocents.
Says Google:
Gaza Strip/Population
2.048 million (2020)
I think Eygpt should take in the Palestinian refugees. Why make Palestinians travel all the way to the United States when all they have to do is open the Rafa gate and let the people escape into Eygpt.
Isn’t it telling that none of the Arab neighbors want to take in the Palestinians. I guess they would rather not have a bunch of radical Islamic terrorists in their midst.
They need to bring some of the large factories back from China and put them in some friendly Spanish-speaking countries.
The factories would be safer, it would greatly reduce illegal immigrants, the companies would make money, and the workers would have good jobs.
“The factories would be safer, it would greatly reduce illegal immigrants, the companies would make money, and the workers would have good jobs.”
I’d debate all three, taking the positions:
The factories would be less safe, it would not change illegal immigrants, the companies would lose money, and the workers would have low paying jobs.
I’ve experienced manufacturing in Mexico.
TORRO website records show UK max Xmas day temp
15.6C Killerton Devon 1926
boxing day max ( 26 December) is
16.1C Aberdeenshire 2011
in December there are plenty of temp records for after year 2000 but also a lot going back 100 years
Shows the variability of weather 😀
They will claim that EVERY year is the new hottest year, they have to or lose the narrative, they can only scream louder all the time as that is all they have.
The “hottest year” in a 2 million-year ice age, with 20% of the land frozen, doesn’t mean very much.
I wonder how much today’s kids will remember when they grow up? I remember hearing about unprovoked USSR nuclear attacks and the disappearing Amazon rain forest. Instead I got 9/11 terrorist attacks and housing crashes. “They” weren’t as wrong in _how_ “they” evaluated so much as wrong in _what_ “they” evaluated.
As one who lives by Lake Erie (on the GOOD side of the Lake Effect), I had NO problems with the milder temps.
None.
This year was mild, which meant that family members could easily travel for the holidays.
Some years, just dressing for a short trip outside can take 20-30 minutes – both out and in. With a dog, that’s a lot of dressing/stripping down over the course of a day.
That doesn’t include:
I’ve done all the above most of my life. It was just the way it is in Cleveland, OH, along the lake.
I’ve also seen the BAD side of the warmer parts of the USA – AZ (like an oven), FL (not only hot, but humid), and SC (wet, soggy lawns most of the spring and fall). And, in the South, 1 inch of snow paralyzes the city.
The variability of weather leads us to appreciate the better times. The blistering cold leads to the more prudent and careful provisioning most people do in the winter – we definitely don’t want to have to head out when it’s bad. That reality can be character-building.
I’ve heard for years of the Next Coming of An Ice Age, or, conversely, How We Will All Fry Due to Rising Temperatures.
Neither one is likely to happen. But, should they, the smarter people will likely survive, as they have in the past.
We’ve had a relatively mild December this year here (Colorado), and by now, more often than not, we would have had at least one sub-zero ⁰F nighttime low. We haven’t been close to that yet. Do you know how many people here are complaining about it? Exactly zero point zero.
Just in case someone is complaining, this hemisphere will get it’s turn soon.
Yes, we will. The cold arctic air is headed our way.
Up till now, we in the United States have been experiencing mild Pacific air blowing west to east with the jet streams, which take this kind of configuration during El Nino’s periods, but we always get an excursion of arctic air at least once a winter and sometimes twice a winter.
Sometimes the arctic excrusions don’t penetrate too deeply into the United States, and sometimes they penetrate all the way to the Gulf Coast, like one did in February of 2021.
January 15 is usually considered to be the coldest part of the year. It’s just around the corner.
The Earth is still in a 2.5 million-year ice age, named the Quaternary Glaciation, in a cold interglacial period(20 percent of the land is frozen) between very cold glacial periods. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation
The current interglacial is ending. Within 200 years, the permafrost will begin advancing south again.
Each of the previous interglacials ended when the northern oceans started warming up as they are at present. A lot more of the surface area will reach the 30C limit before the snowfall overtakes the melt but the trends are now evident.
One certainty in the future of weather reporting is new snowfall records. The climate modellers are just beginning to realise that they have snowfall wrong and are now predicting more snow. So the obvious question for the modellers – When will the snowfall exceed the snow melt again as the NH warms up? It must do because snow is not easy to melt once it accumulates.
“Within 200 years …” my kids’ kids’ kids will probably retire. Let them worry about it.
Was planning to cook the turkey using the boiling oceans and the scorching surface heat, but had to turn on the gas stove. Oh well.
Ha!!
The usual suspects were indeed desperate for the propaganda of the warmest ‘ever’ Christmas Eve/day. It was missed by tenths of a degree, although Christmas day did actually have a record high minimum.
Spot day records are meaningless anyway.
So look at December in the mean CET as a whole. It is yet another extraordinary warm month, ~+2C.
2022 had the warmest mean temperature in the entire CET by a wide margin. Now 2023 will end up in second place, only hundredths of a degree behind, statistically the same.
To suggest that the UK is not experiencing exceptional warmth compared to the last ~360 years would just be silly.
Really? Who compiles the temperature datasets? Who have set themselves up as gatekeepers of this ‘exceptional warmth’? And do you trust their unbiased judgement completely? Silly or justifiably sceptical?
Making definitive statements containing adjectives like “exceptional” would just be silly.
The weather is changing because people have forgotten that banging drums, burning witches and tossing virgins into volcanoes is the tried and true solution to preventing bad weather.
Just to be clear (exactly what was counted….)
The graph shows:
TXx (maximum value of monthly maximum temperature)
A totally useless metric — the highest temperature recorded of all the highest monthly temperature recordings for December.
Only suitable for nonsense.
Seven years is a loooong time. Hard to remember back that far.
Kinda like saying 5:00 p.m. is the darkest hour since 6:00 a.m.
The statement is correct for UK in December but some regions are experiencing quite rapid climate change. It is clear that the climate is changing. And it is even clearer that it was changing before 1850 when the climate modellers assume the Earth was in perfect thermodynamic balance.
Greenland January temperature is trending up at 9C/century. The Mediterranean September temperature is increasing at 4C/century. These are quite rapid changes.
The upward trend in autumn snow extent is impressive – 3.3E12m^2/century.
The area of Northern Hemisphere ocean reaching the 30C limit is increasing at 2.5% of total area each decade.
The Northern Hemisphere oceans have only just started to warm up and the snowfall records are only just starting to tumble. These trends will continue for millennia due to orbital changes. These changes happen under similar circumstances at the termination of all interglacials.
UK will continue to have increasing trend in winter precipitation but more rain rather than snow due to its proximity to warm ocean water. Highlands of Scotland will get more snow similar to the high ground across Europe. Once the snow accumulates again, the ice will slowly descend as it has done for millions of years now under the influence of orbital changes. Much more of the NH land will look like Greenland now.
“There is little sign of temperatures shooting up, other than the outlier in 2015. What is more noticeable is that exceptionally cold Decembers used to be more common – in 1933, for instance, daytime temperatures never got above 6.4C”
Hmm…
Isn’t that basically the same thing? (“temperatures shooting up”, and “exceptionally cold Decembers used to be more common”)? Just asking for a friend.
Warmest Xmas ever? Didnt someone say children in Britain wouldnt know what snow is back in the 80s?
https://www.gbnews.com/weather/uk-snow-forecast-storm-henk-weather-latest-new-year-warning-cold
This is a UK-based measure (still way above the long term average for 25th Dec), but globally this date, yet again, looks set to smash the warmest record for the day. This is the global estimate and hasn’t been updated since 23rd Dec, but it gives you the picture.