“Many Will Die”: Climate Scientists Respond to COP28 Fiasco

Essay by Eric Worrall

The usual wailing and wild statements we’ve come to expect in the wake of the annual COP failure.

‘Weak tea’: Climate scientists push back against COP28 cheer

Washington (AFP) – A UN climate deal that approved a call to transition away from fossil fuels has been hailed as a major milestone and a cause for at least cautious optimism. 

Issued on: 14/12/2023 – 02:41

Michael Mann … “The agreement to ‘transition away from fossil fuels’ was weak tea at best,” he told AFP. “It’s like promising your doctor that you will ‘transition away from donuts’ after being diagnosed with diabetes. The lack of an agreement to phase out fossil fuels was devastating.”

Mann called for a substantial reform of the COP rules, for example permitting super-majorities to approve decisions over the objections of holdout petro states like Saudi Arabia, and barring oil executives such as COP28 president Sultan Al Jaber from presiding over future summits.

‘Death knell for 1.5C’

“No doubt there will be lots of cheer and back-slapping… but the physics will not care,” said Kevin Anderson, a professor of energy and climate change at the University of Manchester.

‘Many will die’

Friederike Otto, a climatologist and leader in the field of assessing the role of climate change on specific extreme weather events, was equally damning.  … “With every vague verb, every empty promise in the final text, millions more people will enter the frontline of climate change and many will die.” 

Read more: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231214-weak-tea-climate-scientists-push-back-against-cop28-cheer

Mann’s demand for a transition to a supermajority rather than unanimous vote is intriguing. I mean, how does Mann plan to enforce agreements if he has his supermajority, but one or two key players like India or China say no? Send in the US army?

These climate scientists just aren’t living in the real world.

Of course as COP28 demonstrated, you can just wait until the most intransigent delegates are out of the room before calling a vote.

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CD in Wisconsin
December 14, 2023 8:18 pm

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“The usual wailing and wild statements we’ve come to expect in the wake of the annual COP failure.”

The statements made in the posting aren’t the worst of it from people who call themselves scientists…..

“Scientists” making fools of themselves at the AGU 2023 conference going on right now in San Francisco….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x42TKnSmorQ

One of the stupidest skits from climate alarmists I have yet seen.

December 15, 2023 12:01 am

…how does Mann plan to enforce agreements if he has his supermajority, but one or two key players like India or China say no? Send in the US army?
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That was pretty much my comment on an internet discussion board nearly 30 years ago when the global warming non-sense began to gather steam.

December 15, 2023 3:11 am

Michael Mann … “The agreement to ‘transition away from fossil fuels’ was weak tea at best,” he told AFP. “It’s like promising your doctor that you will ‘transition away from donuts’ after being diagnosed with diabetes. The lack of an agreement to phase out fossil fuels was devastating.”

Mann called for a substantial reform of the COP rules, for example permitting super-majorities to approve decisions over the objections of holdout petro states like Saudi Arabia, and barring oil executives such as COP28 president Sultan Al Jaber from presiding over future summits.

Mann looks like a guy who eats a lot of donuts.

As for a super majority- what if such a majority does not represent a majority of the population of the planet- since it could occur if many small nations join.

And, he’d like to not allow an oil executive to be a COP president. How about someone from the wind/sun industrial complex? How about an academic known to be a member of the climate cult? Where do you draw the line?

rovingbroker
December 15, 2023 3:20 am

“With every vague verb, every empty promise in the final text, millions more people will enter the frontline of climate change and many will die.” 

It was good of Friederlike Otto to provide a perfect example of “vague verbs” and “empty promises” in the very sentence used to call for condemnation of same. Clever.

CampsieFellow
December 15, 2023 3:54 am

Mann called for a substantial reform of the COP rules, for example permitting super-majorities to approve decisions over the objections of holdout petro states like Saudi Arabia, and barring oil executives such as COP28 president Sultan Al Jaber from presiding over future summits.
That’s pretty weak stuff. What he really needs to do is to call for the expulsion of all countries which see the need for fossil fuels if they want to take most of their people out of poverty.

Richard Page
Reply to  CampsieFellow
December 15, 2023 5:51 am

Exclude all countries who put their people first, exclude all countries who are watering down the message, exclude all countries who have not proven themselves to be 100% for net zero by inflicting pain on their citizens.
There will be an empty table with Mann, Figueres and Schwab staring at each other.

December 15, 2023 6:34 am

From the article: “Friederike Otto, a climatologist and leader in the field of assessing the role of climate change on specific extreme weather events”

That made me laugh.

He’s a leader of a pseudoscience called weather attribution. Friederike apparently sees CO2 in every weather event, although he couldn’t prove a connection with CO2 and weather if his life depended on doing so.

All Otto is doing is making unsubstantiated assertions about CO2 and the Earth’s weather events. He has not one bit of evidence to back up any of his claims. Not one bit. He’s just pretending to be a scientist.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 15, 2023 7:28 am

Agree wholeheartedly but you got the sex wrong. Fredi is a she.

Reply to  Dave Andrews
December 15, 2023 8:25 am

Careful – misgendering is thoughtcrime.

Reply to  Shoki
December 16, 2023 3:01 am

Not where I’m from, I’m happy to say.

Reply to  Dave Andrews
December 16, 2023 2:58 am

Yes, I noticed that.

I hope she is not offended by me calling her a he.

But, regardless of gender, there is no evidence connecting CO2 to any weather event. There just isn’t. So her claiming she sees a connection is delusional.

December 15, 2023 7:35 am

We will all die. All of us. Everyone. Just very, very few from climatic causes.

Richard Page
Reply to  Shoki
December 15, 2023 8:44 am

Arguably every person that has died falling through thin ice has died from climate causes. Freezing because you can’t afford heating is another – just not the way Fredi fantasises about it.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Shoki
December 15, 2023 11:15 am

Not “climatic” causes; “weather” causes.

December 15, 2023 9:20 am

“With every vague verb, every empty promise in the final text, millions more people will enter the frontline of climate change and many will die.” 

Above is an entirely meaningless threat. By 2021, no matter how many COP meetings and how many well intentioned words are scribed in documents, no how many good intentions there are to defy physics and economics, over 8 billion will die. Most of them can pass peacefully away after long healthy and productive lives assuming we don’t scuttle the entire human enterprise with our idiocy and superstitious fear of normal weather.

Walter Sobchak
December 15, 2023 6:27 pm

The US and Europe don’t swing enough votes to make this thing work like Mann and Kerry want it to. The only way they could do it is by lots of cash on the table, but they are too broke to do that.

The warmunists better start working on adaptation because their go to mitigation strategy is DoA.