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Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry is playing defense for the president of this year’s United Nations (UN) climate confab after he contended that there is “no science” behind calls for a fossil fuel phase-out, Politico reported Monday.
Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber, the president of the summit, known as COP28, made the remarks in question during a teleconference on Nov. 21, saying that there is “no science” to justify a global fossil fuel phase-out, and that there is no way to eliminate fossil fuels globally while advancing economic development “unless you want to take the world back into caves.” Kerry asserted that Al Jaber’s comments may need “clarification,” or that “maybe it just came out wrong,” according to Politico.
“Look, he’s gotta decide how he wants to phrase it, but the bottom line is this COP needs to be committed to phasing out all unabated fossil fuel,” Kerry told Politico. (RELATED: White House Deploys Kamala Harris To Represent US At Elite Climate Summit: ‘It’s Only Fitting’)
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Al Jaber, for his part, has asserted that his remarks were “misrepresented,” according to The Guardian. Regarding the original story reporting Al Jaber’s comments, a representative for COP28 told the Daily Caller News Foundation on Sunday that “we are not sure what this story was supposedly revealing” and that “nothing in it is new or breaking news” while suggesting that media coverage of the comments intends to undermine the conference’s goals.
“I’m not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist. There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says that the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5 (degrees Celsius)” or less of global warming, Al Jaber said in the Nov. 21 virtual event, according to The Guardian. “Please help me, show me the roadmap for a phase-out of fossil fuel that will allow for sustainable socioeconomic development, unless you want to take the world back into caves,” he said to Mary Robinson, the chair of the Elders group and a former UN special envoy for climate change, during the event.
Prior to the disclosure of his comments, Al Jaber’s presidency had already generated controversy, as he runs the Emirati state-owned renewable firm and the state-owned oil and gas giant. Leaked documents showed that Emirati officials planned to use COP28-related meetings to discuss business related to the two firms with foreign diplomats, and separate documents revealed how the companies considered Kerry as a key reputation-builder in efforts to secure their future financial success.
Despite Al Jaber’s comments and the appearances of potential conflicts of interest, the conference he is overseeing has resulted in several major developments. For example, many of the world’s developed countries, including the U.S., pledged hundreds of millions of dollars combined to a de facto global “climate reparations” fund, and American officials approved a new set of methane regulations that could severely impact the domestic oil and gas industry.
Neither Kerry’s office nor representatives of the UN responded immediately to requests for comment.
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Makes it extremely tough to “clarify” and spin when you won’t talk. Is John Kerry still flying around the world in unabated fossil fuel powered jet airplanes?
Yeah but not his own, his wife sold it as she was getting ticked off with the negative publicity.
IOW, none of the parties mentioned wanted to be disturbed to clarify “business” for the common folk, while ample, lavish and delectable food, spirits and entertainment were at hand.
Some “news reports” were expecting something different??? LMAO.
If I were to choose one American to represent me He would be ranked down around 400 million. I knew this poser in VietNam. He was useless then and is useless now
In Democrat circles, that counts for the highest suitability for office.
He should have been thrown in Leavenworth back in the ’70s.
G’Day Doud D
“I knew this poser in VietNam.”
What was it, three ‘iffy’ Purple Hearts, in five months, and he was out of there. It helps if you’re the one writing the action reports.
Doud D, thank you for your service.
Weren’t his buttocks useful in stopping fragments of his own grenade? /sarc
Worse than useless. He shivved his fellow soldiers in the back before a congressional committee to promote his own politics.
Kerry is another person, along with AlGore, that I am so glad never made it to President.
If I remember correctly the Democrats were going to trash Bush on his low college grades until someone pointed out that Kerry’s were even worse :<)
They did try that with Bush v Gore. Bush had much higher grades in much tougher courses. Gore flunked out of a divinity major, and graduated with “my daddy is a Senator” gut classes.
Right up there with Garland not making it to the Supreme Court.
And thank God he didn’t his politics and incompetence are now apparent to any thinking person
It appears the protagonists of Net Zero will continue to pretend it is a real thing with a real plan and a real chance of achievement no matter how many rational leaders make it clear they are not joining in the Net Zero suicide pack. If the King waltzed through their kitchen wearing nothing but a smile they would compliment his fine clothes endlessly as long as it guaranteed them a cushy job and endless international travel.
Considering how unrealistic the Net-Zero goal is, how unrewarding it will really be to reach it, and how useless the technical efforts have been so far, and how over the top the political efforts have been, shows corruption is the big driver, not science.
The rich who own the media and control the politicians are planning to make trillions off of the $US200 trillion in spending it is estimated to cost to stop warming by 2050.
There I fixed it for you.
Thanks so much, Now please tell me how I can erase that mental image and return to a happy life?
A couple of minor COP28 ‘progress’ details. US committed hundreds of millions of NOT YET Congressionally appropriated climate reparations dollars—meaningless. And Biden finalized Methane regulations to curb O&G methane releases to reduce GHE, when methane is NOT a GHG in the real world having an average of about 2% specific humidity.
And Kerry also ‘militantly’ committed to eliminating all coal fired electricity generation when he knows China and India won’t play. That is why Kerry had to go ‘militant’. China must be frightened by Kerry’s threat.
And Kerry committed to fusion power technology sharing. Just one problem with that. A French Physics Nobel prize winner said (paraphrased), “Fusion—a pretty idea. We put the Sun in a box. The problem is, we don’t know how to make the box.” So Kerry proposes to share fusion ‘we don’t know how’ technology. Very effective—NOT. But the optics are very cost effective for him, since there is nothing to share.
Thank you Rud for pointing out that on this planet methane is not “80 times more powerful a GHG than CO2” or whatever rubbish is trotted out in all the media I read or hear.
The key difference is of course that this plant is largely ocean where water vapour already mostly saturates the radiative heat transfer window of methane. So given the tiny amounts involved and short residence, limiting methane emissions cannot possibly have any impact on surface temperatures. Unfortunately it requires some understanding of radiative physics to grasp this, which seems to be well beyond the capability of the arts graduates who staff the media.
Pisses me off. Yes, methane is a GHG in the lab at standard atmosphere with zero humidity. From which they go crazy on ruminant beef and dairy. Forgetting that the standard lab atmosphere designed to probe each GHG gas separately is nothing like the real world mixed atmosphere..
Rud, i respect your general knowlege but CH4 is not a GHG. It aborbs radiation at a lower wavelength than emitted by the Earth surface, so does not absorb from the Earth nor absorb from the sun. Some suggestion that it goes from burning to give CO2 +2H2O(counting the absorption of H2O) but this requires an ignition temperature of 600C. It does not happen.
Good to see you comment again.
NIST shows CH4 absorption is (eyeballing) has two peaks one around 8 micro and the other around 3 micro.
https://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C74828&Type=IR-SPEC&Index=1
When I was a kid in the 1960’s we were told the fusion power would be clean, limitless, cheap and was only 10 years away. It’s been 10 years away ever since.
When I shared hostel accommodation with some of the bright sparks working at Culham in the 1970s their view was that it was at least 50 years away. That time is about up, but they didn’t put a firm limit on it.
Due to Bidenflation, fusion is now twenty years off.
My understanding is that the US only committed to $17.5 million for the new L&D fund. A nicely insulting gesture. Italy and UAE promised $100 million each, Canada $8 million. Last I knew the total was a laughable $800 million.
Laughable, maybe, but for 80,000 delegates that’s $10,000 each. Enough to fund them for COP29 – their #1 objective. We need even the laughable amounts to dry up so that the world can laugh again.
Isn’t this the fund that was supposed to be garnering $100bn a year last time?
This is a new fund, I think.
Joe and Hunter will have to give the $17,500,000. The Nation is broke.
Two-thirds of Republicans under 20 support the “climate change” agenda and 40% of Republicans at large support finding alternate forms of energy, according to a recent Pew poll. About 90% of Democrats support it.
About 61% of Americans overall support the “climate change” agenda.
Biden is just giving the people what they want, that’s where the votes are.
I wouldn’t mind it if that were his actual reason for supporting it. However, not being the brightest light on the block, I’d bet he buys the whole thing, hook, line and sinker
Fusion power – just you wait another 20 years. This pumpkin patch is going to be the sincerest pumpkin patch ever.
Rud,
This will help illuminate the IPCC horse manure
Al Jaber is Right: There Is no Science Showing a Fossil Fuel Phase-Out Will Achieve 1.5C
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/al-jaber-is-right-there-is-no-science-showing-a-fossil-fuel-phase
Excerpt
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Sultan Al Jaber, president of the Conference of the Parties 28 (COP28), has injected some pragmatism into the meeting in Dubai this week with his comment, “There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5.”
But, real science can do a lot better than Al Jabar’s claim, it can show, the United Nations’ (UN) imperative of eliminating human emissions of CO2 from fossil fuels by the year 2050 (a.k.a., Net Zero 2050) is unwarranted.
Here are three recent scientific advances that, separately, could invalidate the need for Net Zero by 2050:
1. Current carbon dioxide emissions alone cannot cause an additional 3.5°C of global warming by 2100.
The most recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)report (AR6) warns of a worst-case scenario wherein the global average temperature is 3.5°C warmer in the year 2100 than today, mainly due to human emissions of the greenhouse gas CO2.
The 3.5°C predicted forecast is based on computer models that are riddled with pro-warming assumptions and biases that have a long history of running too hot.
They are accepted by the IPCC, based on the consensus of the political appointees from the UN.
In 2019 two eminent physicists, Dr. W. A. van Wijngaarden and Dr. W. Happer, developed calculations to predict the warming effect of CO2 in the atmosphere, and their results matched public-domain satellite observations, since 1979
This complies with the scientific method, which relies on observations of natural phenomena that others can replicate and challenge, and disproves the IPCC consensus.
Van Wijngaarden and Happer found, if CO2 concentrations were to continue to increase at the same rate as they do currently, which is 2.3 parts per million (ppm) each year, global warming of approximately 1.8°C over 180 years would occur. That would equate to only a 0.8°C increase by 2100.
The results of Wijngaarden and Happer’s equations are not a surprise.
We will see below that buried deep in its 2023 report, the IPCC scientists came to similar conclusions.
2. The IPCC uses amplified carbon dioxide equivalent emissions to reach 3.5°C of warming.
MORE….
Well, of course Xi is terrified of Kerry. After all Kerry is back by that tough guy Joey Biden. Xi doesn’t want to end up like no Corn Pop!
The IPCC boss says Al Jaber is right!
“To reinforce his pro-science credentials, Al Jaber came to the press conference with Jim Skea, chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. To nods from the Cop28 president, Skea said that in 1.5C-compatible scenarios “by 2050, fossil fuel use is greatly reduced and unabated coal use is completely phased out.” He added that oil use by 2050 is reduced by 60% and gas by 45%. Al Jaber, Skea said, was “attentive to the science” and “fully understood it”.”
https://mailchi.mp/climatehome/sixth-cop28-bulletin-2689276?e=edd9ee2911
Hilarious.
Interesting that gas is not even cut 50%. Maybe makes intermittency reliable?
Other oil and gas producing countries are picking up on this. “Phase out” language may be dead.
UAE has plenty of oil money to pay Jim Skea to say what he did. And hopes coal IS phased out in favor of oil and natgas. Benefits UAE, which has no coal.
You get what you pay for in ‘honest’ transactions.
Al Jaber understands more science than just about any of the other political attendees: he has a degree in Chemical Engineering, which is an excellent foundation. It means he also understands a lot about the oil and gas business too, especially supplemented by his other degrees – an MBA and a PhD in Business and Economics.
He also knows about nuclear energy with UAE just having commissioned the fourth unit from South Korean supply.
Kerry is totally tin-eared
He has been told by China and India, “abatement” is a non-starter
Unabated coal is a vague statement
Are we talking about abatement by removing particulate from the flue gases?
Are we talking about abatement by removing CO2 from the flue gases? This is the so-called sequestration, which has been demonstrated, in full-scale pilot plants, to be an economic disaster.
That process would add about 10 to 15 c/kWh to the 10 c/kWh coal electricity, for a total wholesale cost of 20 to 25 c/kWh, which is totally unacceptable by China, India, etc., that are burning 8.3 billion metric ton of coal, in 2023
CO2 is at near its lowest level it has been for the past 600 million years
The optimum for flora and fauna growth is 800 to 1200 ppm, as proven in greenhouses.
We should be increasing CO2, a vital life gas
There seems to be no end to useful idiots for AGW.
“Please help me, show me the roadmap for a phase-out of fossil fuel that will allow for sustainable socioeconomic development, unless you want to take the world back into caves,”
This is pretty clear, if someone has the roadmap let’s see it.
John Ketchup Kerry and the Biden Administration (whoever they are) will probably give a shout-out to Michigan Governor Gretchen Witmer who today decided to double-down on stupid and mandated that all Michigan State Vehicles must be Electric. Maybe jockeying for a position in COP 29?
If all state vehicles are electric- one more reason their productivity will plummet as they waste time charging them. Or maybe the state can have extra EVs so they can be switched – like the Pony Express.
Several times this week I stopped at the Pheasants Nest service station on the M31 main road to Melbourne and Canberra about 100km from Sydney – surely one of the busiest service stations in NSW. On each occasion not one single EV was charging.
Interesting.
The one at Wyong on the M1 would probably give it a run for busiest, particularly during early holiday periods.
Oops, I should have read your reply before typing.
I did see that, and checked to see just how well their grid operator is doing in the renewable power department. Right now, coal and natural gas are providing 60000 MW out of a load of 78000. Wind, solar and nuclear are contributing about 8000 MW. They need to really step up their game in the next 10 years.
I have to ask… what was supplying the missing 10GW? Oil? Biomass?
It is been snowing hard and early in Michigan lately.
Thank the good Lord, the state has no snow plows, earth movers, dump trucks, garbage trucks, etc.
I can hardly wait to see the first John Deere combine or electric D-9 Cat.
Back in the day, many municipal vehicles were used 24/7.
When a police shift ended the next squad took over proving high asset utilization.
Charging of course will reduce that efficiency.
Utter nonsense — Al Jaber was quite clear and he was absolutely right in what he said. There is no need for him or Kerry to walk it back in any way.
There is no science that says a rapid phase-out of fossil fuels will achieve 1.5º. Any phase-out or phase-down of fossil
fuels before we have the technologies to replace those fuels will result in economic or societal collapse or both.
Really, you must listen to the actual video and see what he says in answer to what question.
That AI drawn pic of Kerry actually makes him look better…
Sorry, that’s ad hominin, but it’s true. Most of the time AI pix have some weird defects.
Unlike Kerry himself, the picture seems quite life-like.
Oh is that a pic of John Kerry?
I thought it was that spectre from The Adams Family tv show/
Dad has called him “Lurch” for 20 years!
Actually, whoever or whatever created that image, I think it is a excellent representation of Lurch being left in the lurch after Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber’s remarks.
It would be impossible not to see the political position of any newspaper I saw during my childhood by looking at photographs. Every photo of an opposing-party candidate is from angle upward, blank facial expression, “can’t think of a word” moment.
I arrribute Bush beating Kerry and Biden beating Trump to seeing TV debates. People who had seen both participants only as-presented by their preferred source said to themselves “hey, what the?!?”
I envision John Kerry having a complete meltdown at some point, throwing a very public tantrum and glueing himself to something. Maybe he’ll glue himself to his windsurfer and set out to sail to the next convention to show how committed he is.
Per Babylon Bee, glued himself to the lost Ark of Covenant (h/t Raiders of the Lost Ark) and then died. Reliable BB reporting.
Looks like Herman Munster but thin.
Story tip – You Won’t Believe How Many EV Chargers Biden Can Buy for $7.5 Billion – PJ Media
Story tip.
Free unlimited supply of baked beans contributes to Kerry’s personal emissions.
Loud fart sound erupts during John Kerry’s speech at climate panel
https://nypost.com/2023/12/04/news/loud-fart-sound-erupts-during-john-kerrys-speech-at-climate-panel-in-dubai/
Did he happen to be talking about mud slides?
How did they distinguish between what was coming from his mouth ?
The fart didn’t sound screechy and annoying.
Keep in mind that the statements Kerry makes reflect the actual positions of the US government. If he sounds like an idiot then the government itself does as well. This goes for other functionaries also. Antony Blinken, Gina Raimando, Kamala Harris, Deb Haaland, Lloyd Austin, in fact all those appointed to federal positions are, when speaking in their role, the voice of the Biden administration, unless, of course, they are intoxicated.
The majority, 61%, of the American people want the “climate change” agenda implemented. Two-thirds of the Republicans under 30 support the “climate change” agenda and 40% of the Republicans overall say that alternate sources of energy should be found. Biden is following the desire of the people, and that’s where the votes are.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/09/what-the-data-says-about-americans-views-of-climate-change/
Nothing objectionable about looking for alternative forms of energy; just don’t tell me I have to use them immediately in place of current energy that is dependable and affordable.
“The Climate Change Agenda” is a meaningless phrase. Be specific. For example, do 2/3 of Republicans support Joes plan for government funded charging stations (a drop in the bucket compared to the number of privately funded and existing gasoline and diesel pumps)?
In all polls I have seen ranking issues of concern to Americans “Climate Change” is dead last!
The funny thing is, when Biden says something his underlings are quick to point out he is not talking for the Administration. 🙂
Hey, leave John Kerry alone! He flies in a 100% electric private jet, after all. Wait, scratch that. But the studio apartment he lives in is 100% powered by solar panels, right? Wait, no? Well, thanks to modern technology, he can teleconference to any location and never needs to actually travel, so it’s all good…wait, he doesn’t teleconference, but actually flies around the world? There must be some example of him practicing what he preaches. Help me out here…
Easy help. His hair is real, not a wig made from synthetic oils.
He does look a little like Gavin Newsom, lol!
John Kerry is a traitor who has worked for years against US interests.
I read with incredulity that a ‘conference’ can have the 80,000 participants engaged in its discussions?
We were disbelieving when they used to say 30,000 attendees were involved in past COP get togethers but 80,000 brings a whole new level of lunacy into play.
I can only suggest, those involved have never run any project requiring business planning and deadlines.
We are seeing the 28th such gathering get that three decades have passed since the first. The objective was to limit growth in CO2. During the Cop era, Co2 has consistently risen without any change in its upward direction (thankfully). Even the shutting down of industry and commerce during the Covid madness made no difference in CO2 increasing.
With that being the fact, and now upwards of 80,000 people attending the fly away conference of the parties, is it time for someone to question the need for these expensive, pointless, useless, hot air outpourings of ineffectual delegates and their annual get togethers?
Interesting thing about the remarks: there are two distinct propositions with different evidence requirements.
One that rising CO2 levels drive rising temps. So we have to show, at least, that rising CO2 levels precede the warming they allegedly cause. You can go back through climate history and try and show this. They don’t seem to.
Two, that if CO2 levels stablize or fall, temperatures will stablize or fall. Again, you’d have to go back through climate history and show that falls in temp came after falls in CO2 levels.
Has anyone ever done this? The second is what he seems to be doubting, and quite reasonably so. I don’t think there is any evidence of it. Did the LIA happen after a fall in CO2 levels, for instance? Don’t think so.
The BBCs take on this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67566443
Will it be another ClimateGate moment? Someone telling the truth followed by a concerted attempt to spin into its opposite.
The only good use I’ve found for having a heatpump is when the indoor coil freezes up it makes defrosting it quick and easy – outside of that the extra 15% in cost has been useful for maybe 20 days a year and EVEN IN FLORIDA BELOW THE FROST LINE it is useless on the days when I actually need a reliable heat source. Less than 20% of the worlds pop can utilize a heat pump and they are in no way green because heater coils are 100% efficient and a frozen heat-pump is 0% efficient.
“…but the bottom line is this COP needs to be committed to phasing out all unabated fossil fuel..”
John, if what Al Jaber said is true (and of course it is) then WHY does the COP “need to be committed” to phasing out fossil fuel.
Your argument is circular.
What are you going to believe, Al Jaber’s words or what John Kerry says his words mean?
And what the heck is “unabated fossil fuel”?
I know the ref has to blow his whistle when a defensive line approaches a quarterback “unabated” if there was a foul. But what does “unabated” mean here?
John Kerry is a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I learned a new term. Thanks!!