By P Gosselin
Surface temperatures measured where people live show there’s as much cold as there ‘s warmth, see temperature.global.com.
Christian Freuer’s Cold Report (EIKE)
Snowpack extent in US reaches record levels!
America’s first Arctic air blast of the season broke hundreds of low temperature records and led to the largest snowpack extent there in early November in NOAA records.
A high snowpack blanketed the Rocky Mountains, northern Plains, Great Lakes and northern New England, resulting in 17.9% of the Lower 48 under a blanket of snow as the calendar turned to November – a new record in the books dating back to 2003.
Many places recorded their snowiest Halloweens ever.
At 22 inches, Muskegon, MI, not only recorded the snowiest Halloween ever, but also the snowiest October day and month. Glasgow, MT, recorded the snowiest start to the season with 36 inches.
The cold broke hundreds of low temperature records across the country, from Texas to Maine, dropping the average temperature in the Lower 48 to -0.5°C – more than 5 degrees Celsius below normal.
Historic November cold grips Argentina, Australia
A late cold spell has hit large parts of South America, especially Argentina. The country recorded the lowest November temperatures since records began.
A number of records for highs and lows have fallen. New lows include the 0.1°C at Córdoba Airport, which broke the record of 2°C set on November 4, 1992, the 1.6°C in Chamical, which broke the record of 4.5°C set on November 9, 2010, and the 2.8°C in Mendova, which beat the 3.2°C set in 1992.
New lows include Gualeguaychú’s 13.8°C, which broke the old record set in 1992, and Paraná’s 13.5°C, which beat the record set in 1936.
The cold was severe, up to 24 degrees Celsius below normal, and it was also widespread, affecting most of Argentina:
Chart: GFS 2m temperature anomaly (°C) from November 2. [tropicaltidbits.com].
In Australia
While it was really hot in the west, the east was freezing. New November lows fell in New South Wales, including -2.5°C in Young and -0.1°C in Parkes.
Cold October in Uruguay
The South American frost at the beginning of November also hit Uruguay, continuing the anomalously cold October. October 2023 averaged between -0.5 °C and -1 °C below the multi-year norm.
Snowstorm claims the lives of shepherds in Mongolia
Last year, cold and snow disrupted the seasonal migrations of shepherds in northern China, Kazakhstan and Mongolia.
Last November, herders in the northwestern Chinese region of Xinjiang died in the lowest temperatures since the 1980s. Hundreds of cattle and sheep froze to death as snowstorms and temperatures as low as a record -48.6°C blew in from the north.
There is a terrifying Twitter video about this!
The winter capers in China and Mongolia (which appear again in a news item below) also found their way back into the alarmist blog wetteronline.de.
Record snowfall in China
Trains and buses were canceled and schools closed across northern China as the first major snowstorm of the season hit the country. According to the weather service, the cold front is expected to bring record-breaking snowfall.
Major highways in northeastern cities such as Harbin, the capital of Heilongjiang province, are closed and flights have been canceled, according to Chinese state broadcaster CCTV.
Lots of snow in Anchorage
Anchorage also saw its first major snowfall from Sunday to Monday, with more than 15 cm falling on November 5 alone.
According to the National Weather Service, this was the most fresh snow ever to fall in the city on November 5. The previous record of 10 cm from 1964 was thus clearly surpassed.
Source: Twitter-Video
New study: Antarctica cools more than 1°C since 1999
Significant cooling in the 21st century in the Central Pacific, East Pacific and almost the entire Antarctic “implies considerable uncertainties in the future temperature projections of the CMIP6 models”. – Zhang et al, 2023
As reported by notrickszone.com, new research indicates that mean annual temperatures in West Antarctica fell by more than -1.8°C between 1999 and 2018. The cooling was most pronounced in spring, with the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS) cooling at a rate of 1.84°C per decade.
According to the results of Zhang et al., most of the Antarctic continent has cooled by more than 1°C in the last two decades. See, for example, the cooling trend of ~1 °C per decade for East Antarctica (2000 to 2018) shown here:
Link: https://electroverse.info/
One meter of early-season snow in the Alps
It has snowed heavily in the European Alps this week. “It’s looking good,” reports planetski.eu.
Snowfall amounts have exceeded one meter in some areas, with the zero degree line dropping to 1,500 meters.
High levels have been recorded in the northern French Alps, such as the ski resorts of Tgnes, Le Arcs, La Rosiere and Chamonix, while in the western Swiss Alps Glacier 3000 and Verbier, as well as Courmayeur and La Thuile in north-western Italy, have recorded incredible early winter levels.
Numerous European ski resorts have already opened their slopes: 2 in Finland, 1 in Norway, 7 in Austria, 3 in Italy and 3 in Switzerland. More ski resorts were due to open this weekend, including Verbier in Switzerland (on Fri, November 10).
Operators in France are also preparing for an early opening, as the number of requests has increased following the heavy snowfall.
90% of Russia covered by snow
According to the scientific director of the Russian Hydrometeorological Center Roman Vilfand, 90% of Russia is covered in snow.
All of Siberia and the south of the Urals are covered with snow, including Transbaikalia; in the Khabarovsk Territory and Primorye there is an average of 20 cm of snow; on Sakhalin it is up to 8 cm.
Most of Karelia is covered in snow, as is the northern half of the Arkhangelsk region, including Arkhangelsk itself; snow has been accumulating in the Komi Republic for a long time, while in the north of the Perm Krai the snow cover persists.
On the European side, the border of the snow cover runs north of Moscow and St. Petersburg, according to a report by hmn.ru.
“Now we can say that 90% of the territory is covered in snow,” said Vilfand to illustrate the situation.
More record-breaking snow in China
A record-breaking early snowfall has hit northeast China this week, leading to flight cancellations, road closures, train cancellations and school closures.
According to a senior meteorologist at the National Meteorological Center, the first snowfall in northeast China usually occurs between late November and early December, so this week’s snowfall came exceptionally early.
Harbin issued a very rare “red” blizzard warning – the highest in China’s four-tier warning system.
Heavy snowfall hit a number of Chinese provinces, causing widespread disruption.
China’s National Meteorological Service has issued an orange blizzard warning for the provinces of Jilin, Heilongjiang and Inner Mongolia.
The lingering cold is the next problem and workers are now scrambling to restore power and clear snow-covered roads.
This is a ‘proper’ early winter Arctic storm – no wonder the western media won’t touch it.
–40°C in Russia
Following the news that 90% of Russia is covered in snow [see above], the low temperatures are also making an early and ubiquitous appearance.
“The Russian winter is taking its course”, reports gismeteo.ru.
The first -20 °C of the season were measured in Russia on October 11, and the first -30 °C were recorded on October 17.
And now the continental cold has reached a new peak: -40°C.
Last weekend in the Tuguro-Chumikansky district of the Khabarovsk Territory it was -40°C. This weather is considered “very cold” even in the depths of winter, let alone in early November, even by Russian standards.
The cold was not an isolated case either: on November 7, -40 °C was also measured in Tomponsky Ulus in Yakutia:
Source. Gismeteo
According to Gismeteo, this frost will not disappear. On the contrary, it will intensify in the coming days and spread to new areas.
Compiled by Christian Freuer for EIKE.
Please hand me my coat? I’ve always hated winter and the destruction of fresh vegetables. Seems like it happens every year.
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There you have it. Climate models tell prove it.
Here’s where all the cold temperatures are located.
The jet stream sags south in different locations bringing arctic air with it
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/500hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=-47.00,86.46,264/loc=164.328,79.493
“Global Wierding”
That reminded me that I saw a new term used the other day.
“Mutant Weather”!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BHw9A9wfK0&ab_channel=EarthStories-ClimateDisasterDocumentaries
(I blame the X-Men and Storm in particular.)
Increasing snowfall requires warmer oceans. The land inevitably stays colder if there is persistent snow on the ground due to the high reflectivity of snow combined with the difficulty of getting it above 0C.
The big falls in sea level at the termination of interglacials are aligned with increasing peak solar intensity in the Northern Hemisphere that began 500 years ago for the current termination.
The land/ice inevitably cools due to the presence of permanent ice and the increasing elevation of the ice over the oceans. But the snowfall requires atmospheric water and that increases with warmer oceans. So far Greenland is the only location gaining altitude and permanent ice extent due to its proximity to surrounding oceans.
Snowfall records in the NH will be a feature of weather reporting for the next 9,000 years.
Northern oceans were particularly warm this September so record snowfalls will be common this boreal winter.
“”Northern oceans were particularly warm this September
Was that he actual water itself or the air above it?
Not that it really matters as they could both get warm from one and the same thing
i.e. Muddy water, capturing all the solar radiation in the top 20 metres instead the top 100metres had the water had been clean/clear
Coming off farmland at that time of year as they harvest their crops and plough the land for next years crops. Or just leave it ‘fallow’ overwinter
No matter, result is that both air and water coming away from that land is filled with dust and that dust absorbs solar energy.
Also, ‘muddy air’. Dust and smoke and ashes will capture solar energy, get hot then, be ‘observed’ by The Sputniks.
The end result of low albedo landscapes, devoid of plant life, is actual cooling.
Yes, as with asphalt in the urban areas, it gets very hot but that very hotness means that the low albedo landscapes become solar mirrors.
e.g. Asphalt at 70°C is radiating at 780 Watts/m² At 40 degrees of latitude on the September equinox, solar power averaged over 24 hours is only 370Watts/m²
Thus the sun does not heat those farms and roads
Had any green living plants been on that land, their very ‘life processes’ involve pumping water into the ground and sucking it back up (after the bacteria have filled it with micro-nutrients.
The overall effect then is that they pump heat into the ground
If the ground already had water within it and the ability to absorb water, it will absorb solar energy.
It will not be getting toasty warm and making a Mediterranean Climate, BUT, it will keep/prevent the soil/ground/landscape from freezing
Should any snow fall, by whatever means, it will melt, absorb into the ground and effectively increase the thermal inertia of the landscape to resist more snow
But the growing of annual plants (wheat, corn, rice, potatoes, sugar beet, beans etc etc etc) and leaving ‘fallow’ completely destroys that mechanism.
If there really is ‘more snow‘, we did it by exactly that mechanism
Do NOT project yourself onto me, I am NOT a Malthusian ‘anti-farmer’ and misanthropic monster – I am The Messenger Shoot me at your own very real peril.
The farmers are only doing what they are told to do by their customers and most definitely, by Government.
If they don’t do as they’re told, they are bankrupted and some who will toe the line takes over their farm
Been There, Done That, Seen That. Got the T-shirt
You certainly not in touch with modern farming methods. Fall plowing in most areas are all but gone. Minimum till is how farming is not done here in the US and it alone has increase yields.
Your third (last) statement does not make sense to me… kindly explain.
Oceans are the normal November values. Being November sea ice hasn’t formed in areas that saw the snowfall. Sea ice in Hudson Bay for example hasn’t formed yet. Snowfall over Russia and Canada form due to ice free water which then freeze later. Snow extent is normal this season. Oceans average temperature is 14.5°C 80°N to 80°S. Not 20.8°C 60°N to 60°S. 20.8°C is 50°N to 50°S.
Northern oceans are mostly warmer than average for this time of year. West of Greenland 3C higher than average per attached:
Snow extent is currently equal to the record extent for this time of year:
Meanwhile, every month since at least July has set a new warmest monthly record according to every global temperature data producer, whether surface or satellite. 2023 will be the warmest year ever recorded by instruments. But look, a squirrel!
Could you kindly be more specific and/or cite a source?
Take a look at the UAH chart on the side bar of this site, for one example.
Shows NO WARMING except at strong El Nino events..
… hence, no evidence of human causation….
Is that the one you mean ?
Well, if you only count El Nino warming and dismiss La Nina cooling then you will get a warming trend. The reverse is also true, of course.
Which is why both aspects of these self-cancelling ends of the ENSO oscillation are taken into account by sensible people.
You wouldn’t know that, of course.
You poor thing.. You really are CLUELESS about everything, aren’t you.
And in COMPLETE DENIAL that the strong El Ninos in the last few decades are the ONLY source of atmospheric warming.
You still haven’t shown a single bit of evidence of any human causation.
You STILL haven’t said how warm it must have been a thousand or so years ago for trees to have grown where now where now there are glaciers.
You have absolutely NOTHING except mindless, ignorant comments to add to any discussion.
“these self-cancelling ends “
What a load of BS.
Data shows very clearly that they are NOT self-cancelling, especially when fed by a series of strong solar cycles.
You are just making up anti-science garbage, as usual.
You have also shown that you are totally clueless about El Nino and La Nino….. not that we expect you to ever have a clue.
This is how glaciation starts. Peak solar intensity increasing across the NH. That causes higher maximum northern ocean surface temperature in September. Resulting in more atmospheric water over land in October that drops out as record snowfall in November.
So far only Greenland has increasing elevation and permanent ice extent but the warming only started 500 years ago and has 9,000 years to come.
The NH will warm until the snowfall overtakes the snow melt and permanent ice becomes ubiquitous north of 40N. This is what climate change looks like. The models will catch up in due course once they get the snow fall/melt module right. A lot more northern ocean will hit the 30C limit in decades to come.
Northern Oceans north of 50N are warming at 4C/century in August while Southern oceans south of 50S are cooling at 0.8C/century in February. The cooling trend in the Southern Hemisphere invalidates all climate models because they are incapable of sustaining a cooling trend anywhere.
Not in the U.K. it hasn’t
Explain that
Because the UK isn’t the globe.
And the globe means the entire globe, not bits of it Duh.
Does the concept of a global average temperature confuse you?
There is no such thing outside the cranium of a modelling alarmist.
See, the problem with this is that it’s just your opinion, which doesn’t matter.
You are lucky they let you threadjack because you offer nothing new and being painfully short sighted.
By ‘threadjack’ you mean point out the blindingly obvious?
You have pointed out absolutely NOTHING except that there has just been a strong El Nino.
At least you appear to know there will now be a cooling trend set in.
You still haven’t pointed out how much warmer it MUST have been for trees to grow where now there are glaciers.
No by avoiding the topic to introduce a different topic because you ignore half the world’s weather events.
This is why no one here respects you.
No, you are attempting to push an airy faery concept that does not exist.
Nice try.
Global Warming only ever appears in Global Average Temperatures, never in real, measured temperatures in specific locations.
Funny, isn’t it?
I refer you to the UAH map below, which shows the locations.
ROFLMAO…. now there is a complete and utter FAIL
The general warming is from the El Nino, and wraps around the whole of the tropics. You can see the progress in the series of maps below.
NOWHERE else has a consistently high anomaly.
The UAH map shows the effect is purely and absolutely from the El Nino event.
El Nino hasn’t even properly kicked in in the UAH data yet, according to the UAH monthly reports. You should get someone to read them to you.
BS.
You can see the El Nino effect starting in May and spreading around the Tropics,…
… unless of course you are totally blind and incapable of reading basic charts.
“in specific locations.”
A map of the globe.. is NOT “specific location”, moron !
So you agree, it is just a concept.
Well done, maybe you do have more than one functional brain cell. !
A notional construct.
You could say that about any form of averaging. Doesn’t mean it isn’t useful. Otherwise, why would it be so commonly used in all scientific disciplines?
Nothing you say is even remotest bit “useful”
You have zero clue how averages should be used and how they shouldn’t.
Warming is good. The Earth is in a 2 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation, in a warmer but still cold interglacial period. There are about 4.6 million deaths from cold-related causes compared to about 500,000 heat-related deaths. The cold or cool air causes our blood vessels to constrict to conserve heat and this raises our blood pressure causing more strokes and heart attacks in the cooler months.
Unfortunately all these deaths were recorded as Covid-19 related
Global average temperature
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I never see you complaining about the concept of global average temperatures when UAH global average updates are posted here each month.
If you think the concept of a global average temperature is risible, then why do you persist with this site, which prominently features a major global temperature data set’s monthly updates, including on it’s sideboard (UAH)?
Most odd.
They are part of the website this article is about a bunch of record cold and snow you are trying hard to deflect from which is a lot of weather you are trying to ignore.
Most odd I would say.
Certainly , to think you can get a measure of any global average temperature from a bunch of sparsely, irregularly spaced urban and airport surface sites, is completely ludicrous, wouldn’t you agree.?
And as we know, the satellite data clearly shows that the ONLY warming in the last 45 years has come from El Nino events.
That means there is absolutely zero signature of any human causation for the very slight warming we have been lucky enough to have.
Yes. T1-T2/2 has never been defined as the gridding area is too large for the stated purpose. You have never defined the uncertainty of what you claim to be the result, therefore any number you parade as fact is not.
That concept seem to confuse you routinely.
Well tell us where on the globe it was ???
Here’s the UAH map, so you can see for yourself:
Yep, some regions warming, others cooling, as always.
Next!
And the warmest October on record, continuing and enhancing the warming trends for October globally.
Next.
Only from a strong El Nino.
You have yet to post even the tiniest proof of any human causation.
You remain.. as always.. TOTALLY EMPTY of any actual science.
You still haven’t told us how tree grew where now there are glaciers.
You just keep running away in pitiful mindlessness.
WRONG as always.
It shows a general warming around the Tropics from the El Nino.
The other warmer spots shift all over the place.
You have shown absolutely NOTHING. ! A total FAIL !
No, it shows the warmest October on record for the UAH data set and a continuation of the global warming trend.
You’d have to be pretty dense to think it shows ‘absolutely nothing’.
Only place showing dark orange is northern Chile.
A small patch in southern Europe
Warm patch above Northern Canada, and a bit in Russia.
Why does that SCARE you so, so much ?
Take it up with your heroes, Roy Spencer and John Christie; they produced the map showing the warmest October on their records.
You poor mindless sap.. you still can’t see that the El Nino effect has pushed up the whole of the Tropics.
Deliberately blind ??.. or just plain ignorant ??
Seems you are incapable of understanding the effect this has on the calculated global average
You really need to go back and do some basic junior high mathematics, because you really missed out last time.
So you prove you cannot say anywhere particular that is warming all that much.
That is a pretty PATHETIC response, from you.. isn’t it, fungal!
Just like your pathetic responses to trees growing under glaciers.
Run and hide, child-mind !
Yes, fortunately this time is over 😀
The UK has become an unmanageable, impoverished shithole, based on my observations during my visits over the past 50 years.
Each year, it is getting more bizarre
The locals do not much notice it, because they are like frogs in a pot getting warmer
It is largely due to uncontrolled immigration, which brought all sorts of social strive and odd, non-British behavior
Having climate goals is merely the elites being busy at reinforcing their hold on power. Just keep that in mind, as soon as you get up each morning
There is not a prayer in the world, humans can make any difference regarding the climate, but the elites, using government media, tell you invest more and more in uselessness, while promising Nirvana will appear on the horizon.
Screw them all!
Think of wind and solar as having the same effect on the UK as immigration on steroids
You want to see it post-Brexit if you want to see a sh*t hole!
You would rather see the Brits under the thumb of nameless unelected bureaucrats from the EU.
You really do did need someone to control your every thought and action, don’t you.
Incapable of coping by your own cognitive emptimess
The real problem is the political wokeness and leftism, and abandoning rational conservative principles…
They become disgustingly inept people… like you.
“It is largely due to uncontrolled immigration, which brought all sorts of social strive and odd, non-British behavior”
British behavior IS the result of millennia of uncontrolled immigration, first people were 900,000yrs ago, then we had Neanderthals, The Ahrensburg culture, the Beaker people, the Pict’s, Celts, Anglo-Saxon, Gauls, Greeks, Romans, Vikings, French, Spanish, Russians, Dutch, Africans; …. Animals (humans included) have always migrated, it’s the natural way of survival.
That’s right, we’ve been in a warming trend since the middle of the 19th century, so it shouldn’t come as any surprise that most years are the warmest ever. What is a surprise or should be is that a lot of people have been convinced by a world-wide propaganda machine that a warmer world constitutes a climate crisis.
One hears this all the time on these comment pages, but it’s wrong. None of the three global temperature data sets that start in 1850 (HadCRUT, NOAA and Berkeley) show any warming trend between 1850 and 1930. That’s the first ~80 years of the record with zero warming trend; but that won’t stop the same people here repeating the same nonsense about ‘recovery from the LIA’.
You genuinely believe we know the GAT as far back as the 1860’s?
Even Phil Jones admitted that historical temperatures in the Southern Hemisphere were largely “made up”.
Steve Case says:
…we’ve been in a warming trend since the middle of the 19th century…
The Final Nail says:
None of the three global temperature data sets that start in 1850 (HadCRUT, NOAA and Berkeley) show any warming trend between 1850 and 1930.
GraemetheCat says:
You genuinely believe we know the GAT as far back as the 1860’s?
I see a little problem here. If the implication of GtC’s comment is correct then we cannot know the temperature trend between 1850 and 1930. That refutes TFN’s claim that there was no trend.
But it also refutes SC’s claim that there was a warming trend.
So TFN refutes SC’s claim of a warming trend by saying there wasn’t one. And GTC refutes SC’s claim by saying we can’t know.
Thus far, it seems, nobody really knows anything. If only climate scientists could be that honest.
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Correct (apart from it’s not me who says there wasn’t a trend between 1850 and 1930, it’s every global temperature data set that covers that period, links above).
All due to FAKED adjustments of data.
There used to be a strong warming trend up to the 1930s.
It was REAL at the time.
What you have shown is a fabricated LIE.. which only people with very limited intelligence, like you, continue to fall for.
We’ve been in a warming trend since the nadir of the LIA…mid 1700s
However we do know that there was an early twentieth century warming from both temperature records in the US and elsewhere and physical proof such as the open season at the coal port in Spitsbergen going from 3 months of the year before 1920 to over 7 months of the year by the late 1930s.This was well before CO2 production started ramping up after WW2.
For earlier warm periods various historical methods can be used such as records of grape cultivation in Roman Britain. Similar records are available for many countries – they are not just available in tree rings!
All very true except that the idea of the ‘global average temperature’ was only made up in the 1970’s, before that we mention regional trends, mostly in areas with good coverage by temperature stations. The warming trend of the 1930’s, for example, was not a global trend but a regional one; in the regions of Europe, North and South America, Australia and parts of Asia. TFN’s trend is only refuted because he keeps insisting on using the delusional ‘Global Average Temperature’ which is only global because much of the data has been made up to fill in the blanks – in reality it is a collection of biased regional temperatures and far too much made up ‘fudge factors’. And of course, hopelessly contaminated by UHI bias as to be practically worthless.
All those data sets I linked to are supported by their relevant peer-reviewed papers. You are welcome to dispute them in the normal way (no one else has, as yet).
Anyway, if we don’t know what temperatures were pre-1850, how come everyone here’s so confident the current warming is a recovery from a colder period?
All those data sets you linked to are supported by their relevant
peerpal reviewed papers.We ALL know about the bias in the
peerpal review system of publishing.How do we know it was colder in the past?
When was the last Frost Faire on the Thames??
How long ago did glaciers stop growing and start shrinking??
How do we know it was warmer than now prior to then?
Medieval WP
Roman WP
Minoan WP
Holocene Optimum
Again, you dismiss recorded scientific data, rudimentary though some of it may be, yet unswervingly support claims about previous warm/cold periods that have zero recorded scientific data.
You want your cake and you want to eat it too. It’s child-like.
Oh shut up! you have completely avoided the article, here is the headline you try not to see,
You simply can’t acknowledge it because you are a climate cultist.
“you dismiss recorded scientific data,”
You haven’t produced any.
The data you have put forward is agenda adjusted fakery.
Pity you are incapable of telling the difference.
“The data you have put forward is agenda adjusted fakery”
Good description!
I’m uncertain there is a cake. And so are you.
You STILL haven’t explained how much warmer it MUST have been for forests to have grown where there are now glaciers.
It is just one of your persistent FAILURES to produce anything of any cognitive worth.
Again, you never cite the uncertainty of the numbers you like to cite. What do you think uncertainty means anyway?
All of which are based on FAKE data from surface sites which are totally unsuitable for any sort of “climate” calculation… which is then mal-manipulated to say exactly what they want it to show.
Basically all NH sites show the 1930/40 period of similar temperature to now.
All that has been agenda mal-adjusted away to suit the scam that gullible twerps like you keep falling for.
Hadcrut3 shows a very different story.
Yes, Hadcrut gets closer to reality the farther back in time you go.
By this, I mean that the older versions of Hadcrut are closer to reality than the later versions of Hadcrut.
Temperature Data Mannipulators have adjusted older versions of Hadcrut to make it appear that the past is cooler than it really was. These bastards ought to be thrown in jail.
Better argue that with NCAR..
The past data has, of course, changed since then.
All part of the scam you gullibly follow.
Or James Hansen.. one of your heroes. 😉
Odd silence from ToeFungalNail…
What can he say?
Climate alarmists have to ignore real data in order to continue their delusion.
In 1879 the US sent the USS Jeannette on a polar expedition. They prevailing theory at the time was that if they could get through the pack ice there was a tropical climate at the North Pole. So, no, we did not know the global average temperature in the late 1800s.
Great book to read
Funny what you can make a graph depict when liberally sprinkling it with Proxy Dust and averaging math
Warming is good, cold is bad. That’s why we have to live indoors for most of the year outside of the tropics.
This recent study shows that the cold weather we have every year causes about 4.6 million deaths a year globally mainly through increased strokes and heart attacks, compared with about 500,000 deaths a year from hot weather.
We can’t easily protect our lungs from the cold air in the winter and that causes our blood vessels to constrict causing blood pressure to increase leading to heart attacks and strokes.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext
“None of the three global temperature data sets that start in 1850 (HadCRUT, NOAA and Berkeley) show any warming trend between 1850 and 1930.”
1850!
There was a global network of recording sites that supplied the data in 1850?!
(Or are you and they including a certain tree ring to fill in the none existent data?)
He has just totally destroyed Mann’s Hockey Stick which also shows rapid warming from 1900-1940.
Mickey will not be happy 😉
What’s a darn mouse have to do with this?
“One hears this all the time on these comment pages, but it’s wrong. None of the three global temperature data sets that start in 1850 (HadCRUT, NOAA and Berkeley) show any warming trend between 1850 and 1930. That’s the first ~80 years of the record with zero warming trend; but that won’t stop the same people here repeating the same nonsense about ‘recovery from the LIA’.”
Well, ole Phil Jones found some warming between 1850 and 1930. As you can see there were several warming periods after 1850 that were equal to the current warming period.
The only problem with Phil Jones’ chart is he is a temperature data manipulator and he used his office to cool the past, so the present looks like the hottest year evah!
If you want a correct representation of Phil Jones chart, you would put the 1880’s and the 1930’s, and the present day on the same horizontal line because they were all equally warm as demonstrated by Tmax charts from all over the world.
So if the 1880’s and the 1930’s and the present day are all equal in warmth, then that shows that CO2 is not what is controlling Earth’s temperatures, and that’s what Phil Jones and the other temperature data bastardizers didn’t want us to know, so they artificially cooled the past using bogus sea surface temperatures to form the bogus, bastardized Hockey Stick charts that are the basis for all the alarmism over CO2
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The long-term climate that the Earth is in is a 2.6 million-year ice age.
Over 20 percent of the land is either permafrost or covered by glaciers.
About 4.6 million people die from cold-related causes compared to about 500,000 deaths from heat-related causes.
We can’t easily protect our lungs from the cold air in the cooler months and that causes our blood vessels to constrict causing our blood pressure to increase leading to heart attacks and strokes.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext
WOW, it is as if the Fungal Toenail has never heard of an El Nino event .
Why does it CHOOSE to remain so, so ignorant.
Does it not know that most of the last 10,000 years has been a lot warmer than now?
Why is it in a total lather of abject panic ?
“Why does it CHOOSE to remain so, so ignorant.”
Ignorance is bliss, apparently.
And of course, we are STILL WAITING for any evidence of human causation.
Oh look, the squirrel has dropped its nuts and its hands are empty… like its mind.
A happy squirrel- here across the American north east- the pine trees are producing record amounts of cones. The rodents are thrilled as they’re busy storing seeds for the winter. Deer and many bird species also love pine seeds.
Northwest (at least in our AREA) is the same, with, in addition, the fir tree cone production. I won’t assume it is the same Globally.
From the point of logiciel thinking it’s clear that coming out of the LIA the rise of temps must lead to peaks.
But for people like you having a problem with logical thinking it’s a catastrophe.
Yes, we are all aware that the Earth transitioned from Niña to Nino conditions this year alongside the abrupt warming in the North Atlantic. I fully expect this to subside some time in the future.
The Earth is in a 2.56 million-year ice age, in a warmer but still cold interglacial period.
It is not as cold as the glacial periods but still, about 4.6 million people die from cold-related causes every year compared to around 500,000 deaths from heat-related causes.
We can’t easily protect our lungs from cool or cold air and that causes our blood vessels to constrict causing our blood pressure to increase leading to increased heart attacks and strokes during the cooler months.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext
Here is an example from the state of Michigan
https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/Provisional/MontlyDxCounts.asp
Here it is people the typical deflection away from the inconvenient record cold and snow and the article they don’t want to read.
They do it because they want to ignore all that for their pet fear of a small warming.
So where were the temperature data producers during the Roman Warm Period or the MWP so we can compare the results?
It’s 5C so clearly global warming is anything but
Its mid-November down here in Australia, and I’ve had a flannelette shirt on all day..
Bring on summer.. please. !
Just hope you haven’t had that same flannelette shirt on all WEEK 😷🤮🫢
Why, I haven’t got any paint or dirt on it ! ???
Hey! Doesn’t everyone wear the same shirt for a week?
At least !!!
Since I see the normal useful/useless comments are well underway, I’ll go ahead with the good news: Early cold and snow leads to great parties, like that famous Donner Party…..I understand they had some awesome barbecues.
OUCH!
Yeah it really puts the ‘Donner kebab’ into perspective.
Wattsupwiththat should set up an archive of the world’s cold event articles for easy access by readers in need of ammunition to counter the tsunami of lies purveyed by governments and their NGOs, and the obsequious, lapdog Media, which are trying to stay relevant by outdoing each other in scare-mongering to show their faux greenness
There are very interesting things going on the Stratosphere with this HT water vapor. The latest Aura MLS data indicates that in the peak of the SH winter at 45S the HT water vapor began topping out at 40 KM. Very strange and never observed radiative phenomena are occurring throughout the globe.
Graphics produced by IDL (nasa.gov)
Is it just my eyes, or does the extra moisture seem to be dissipating quicker than it was suggested it would?
Uh oh… that doesn’t look good for them.
Yet according to the BBC Brazil is experiencing high temperatures because of climate change and El Niño https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-67422663
Also the warmest autumn on record due to climate change and El Niño
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67332791
If Argentina is experiencing cold weather, is there a blocking high that is causing both extremes or some other atmospheric phenomenon?
Here is a new 2023 study that says that depending on the surface temperature and solar irradiance datasets that one uses one can show anything from mostly human-caused warming to mostly natural warming.
‘Challenges in the Detection and Attribution of Northern Hemisphere Surface Temperature Trends Since 1850’
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1674-4527/acf18e
The datasets are historical so there is not much that can be done about them.
You are either an AI bot or you only have 4 or 5 posts that you cycle through. You’ve posted this one before, word for word.
Ah, Willie Soon. Bless him.
Someone with several magnitudes more intelligence and scientific knowledge and integrity than you would ever be capable of.
Poor fungus. Can’t handle the truth, can you petal !
Cold is weather, warm is Armageddon. Clear?
Speaking of media, MM pokes the bear.
(1) Prof Michael E. Mann on X: “Goebbels, at least, didn’t own the world’s largest social media platform: https://t.co/WBioPQ2N1m https://t.co/Av1yC7dyW2” / X (twitter.com)
Actually, at the time, Goebbels did!
El Ninio not behaving itself for the weather worriers in Oz too-
Major storm event on the horizon across Australia as El Niño takes a raincheck (msn.com)
This seems to very much a “not-normal” El Nino.
Certainly, the rain is welcome, (except for the continual need to mow the grass.) !
I suspect something to do with the HT eruption…. but no way of proving that.