By Andy May
h/t Don Keiller and Ken Gregory
Australia’s Maritime Safety Authority has issued a domestic commercial vessel safety alert on the risks of ferrying battery powered cars (EVs), download it here. Each ferry operator must conduct a risk assessment for their vessel to ensure that they are capable of dealing with potential EV fires. They list the risks of carrying EVs as follows:
- High voltage shocks
- Direct jet flames
- Fires develop in intensity quickly and rapidly reach their maximum intensity (typically within 2-3 minutes)
- Toxic gases
- Gas explosion (if the released gas accumulates for a while before being ignited)
- Long lasting re-ignition risk (can ignite or re-ignite weeks, or maybe months after the provoking incident)
- Once established fires are difficult to stop/extinguish
- Thermal runaway
They go on to add that EVs are approximately 25% heavier than vehicles with internal combustion engines. This should be considered when placing the vehicles on the ferry or ship to minimize the potential impact on vessel stability.
Lithium-ion batteries have been known to suffer from spontaneous thermal runaway fires. The lower the charge retained by the vehicle’s battery the lower the likelihood of a thermal runaway fire, checking the charge on each vehicle can help in assessing the risk.
Some battery powered vehicles have a lower ground clearance than internal combustion engine vehicles. This means they are more susceptible to damage from ramps during boarding. Care should be taken in identifying these vehicles before boarding to ensure damage is not sustained to the battery. Any damage to any part of the battery increases the risk of fire. Physical damage to the battery can lead to thermal runaway. EVs which have been damaged should not be loaded. Charging the battery while onboard is very dangerous and can increase the likelihood of a thermal runaway fire, do not allow charging any EV on your vessel.
Fumes given off by lithium-ion batteries are toxic, gas masks are necessary when fighting the fire. When fighting a lithium-ion battery vehicle fire with water, substantially higher quantities of water are required in comparison to an internal combustion vehicle fire. The water must also be applied for a longer period. There is also a risk of re-ignition. Using other methods such as a car fire blanket designed to extinguish EV fires can help. A damaged high-voltage battery can create rapid heating of the battery cells. If you notice hissing, whistling, or popping, a possible sweet chemical smell, then black “smoke” (nanoparticles of heavy metals, not smoke) then white vapor coming from the high voltage battery assume that thermal runaway has occurred. Directly attacking the fire with water hoses and breaking open the battery requires specialist training and equipment. Do attempt this without extensive training and practice.
EVs are in real trouble. EV insurance rates are higher than for internal combustion engine (ICE) cars due to the risk of intense fires, higher cost of repairs, and the cost of replacement batteries. EVs are much more likely to be totaled after an accident and repairing them takes much longer than for an ICE. Be very careful about putting an EV in your garage, especially with a built-in charging station.
Ignacio Galán, the chief executive of Spanish utility Iberdrola, said in 2018, that the renewable industry was facing a possible “Enron” style collapse. The era of cheap money is gone, and the new higher interest rates will shake out any weak renewable companies, as well as weak EV manufacturers. From an investor point of view be very careful. EV bankruptcies have already occurred (also see here), and more are on the way. Solar startup bankruptcies are increasing (see also here and here). Wind power isn’t doing much better, Siemens is in real trouble (see here). My state of Texas is also hurting. We all eventually have to pay the piper.
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I have already warned the channel ferries repeatedly of the consequences of an EV car deck fire.
Their answer – we are currently thinking about it….
They will carry on thinking no doubt until follows a disaster like Herald O F E or The Estonia, which went down in a storm.
MS Herald of Free Enterprise was a roll-on/roll-off (RORO) ferry which capsized moments after leaving the Belgian port of Zeebrugge on the night of 6 March 1987….killing 193 people
Estonia sank on Wednesday, 28 September 1994, between about 00:50 and 01:50 (UTC+2) as the ship was crossing the Baltic Sea, en route from Tallinn, Estonia. Of the 989 on board, 137 were rescued.
The sinking was one of the worst maritime disasters of the 20th-century.It is one of the deadliest peacetime sinkings of a European ship, after the titanic (1912).
People forget pretty quick what happened in the fires in the channel tunnel or Mont Blanc tunnel.
On the morning of 24 March 1999, 39 people died when a Belgian transport truck carrying flour and margarine, which had entered the French-side portal, caught fire.
CHUNNEL one of 3 btw.
The fire was reported on 11 September 2008, at approximately 13:57 UTC (14:57 BST / 15:57 CEST) in the North Tunnel 11 kilometres (6.8 mi) from the French side…
Full service resumed in February 2009, after the completion of repairs costing €60 million.
Industrial size disaster on transport infrastructure occur on average about once every 7-9 years, mostly due to a combination of negligence and statistical outcome relative to traffic use/annual mileage.
Right now we are about 5 years overdue for the next big one.
I predict it will be caused by an EV – as per MAY 2 2022 EV bus fire in PARIS….
149 electric buses will be taken off the streets of Paris temporarily “as a precaution” after two of the vehicles caught fire, public transport operator RATP said Friday, April 29…..temporarily of which became PERMANENT!
NO SOLUTION!
Following a second blaze on Friday morning, in which no one was hurt, “RATP has taken the decision to suspend use of 149 electric buses” of manufacturer Bollore’s Bluebus 5SE model, the state-owned company said…
AND as of now…..”Ils sont toujours à l’arrêt.
Les 148 bus produits par la société Bluebus pour la RATP en Île-de-France sont toujours stationnés à Châteaulin, près de Quimper, selon Île-de-France Mobilités (IDFM), l’autorité organisatrice des modes de transport en commun en Ile-de-France, en attente de trouver une solution avec son fabricant.
RATP CEO demands compensation and safety guarantees before putting Bluebus e-buses back into service in ParisThe CEO of the RATP, Jean Castex, announced on May 10, 2023, that the 148 electric Bluebus buses of the 5SE series operated by the RATP will only be put back into service when all safety guarantees are met.
Previously there were not enough on the road to be a useful transport statistic. Now it appears a little more interesting.
How many electric buses are there in Paris?
The state-owned public transport operator in Paris has 500 electric buses in its fleet of 4,700 vehicles. (of which 148 are currently chewing the cud in Brittany at RATP expense). so now only 350.
The electric buses are supplied by Bolloré, Alstom, and CNH’s Heuliez Bus
Haven’t read all the comments but I’ll throw this in case no mentioned this idiocy: NYC is going the convert to EV fire engines!!!
Priceless!
Freaking nightmare to be in the middle of Georgia Straight on a BC ferry and have one of these start combusting.
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