Opinion by Kip Hansen — 1 August 2023

Here I ask a simple question. Are we all wasting our time with climate science? Reading about it, writing about it, worrying about it, fighting about it, arguing about it.
To my horror, I discover that I have been involved in this enterprise for far more than a decade, originally writing from the Caribbean where my wife and I were living on our sailing catamaran while doing various humanitarian projects. Not quite as long as Anthony Watts, who started WUWT in 2006, but nearly.
Anthony’s efforts led him to be the owner and host of the world’s most viewed website on climate. Given that WUWT represents the “minority report” on climate, that is a heck of an achievement. Yet the jury is still out on how much of an impact on climate policy and public opinion this site, and the dozen or so other high impact climate skeptic websites, blogs, podcasts, etc., have made and will make.
Much of the “climate science” being done, at least that small portion that reaches the public eye by appearing in the mass media, falls into that category which the honorable Dr. Judith Curry long ago labelled “climate science ‘taxonomy’” – “‘taxonomy’, i.e. research that is neither useful nor contributes to fundamental understanding”. That type of so-called climate science is turned into climate alarm in spades, in diamonds, in hearts and in clubs – the whole deck.
I am speaking of the nonsense one reads and hears from NPR, PBS, BBC, NBC, AP, CNN, Reuters, ABC, the NY Times, the Guardian, the Washington Post – many of whom have openly joined themselves into propaganda cabals ( and this one) dedicated to spreading misleading information about climate and climate change. [A new one has just been announced: GRIST and AP. ] Even when a media organization is not directly associated with one of these collaborative misinformation outlets, their editors and journalists have to face the wrath of those that are – there are few working journalists willing to fight the tide on climate alarmism.
Even the IPCC-boosting Pielke Jr. has been blasting the media for repeating absolutely false narratives on extreme weather — the very same media that repeats endlessly the mindboggling crazy pronouncements of U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres — “the era of global boiling has arrived.”
CLINTEL, has just published an extremely valuable book, “The Frozen Climate Views of the IPCC“, widely available, in softcover and eBook formats. The book examines the IPCC’s AR6 and documents biases and errors in the Working Group 1 (Scientific Basis) and Working Group 2 (Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability) reports. [Disclosure: I contributed one of the chapters – thus have a conflict of interest.]
We see the forked-tongued enemy. A two-pronged approach. First, the underlying science is slightly warped, slightly biased, misleadingly reported in the latest IPCC Assessment Report (AR6) WG1 and WG2. A lot of this is simple confirmation bias and forced-consensus biasing. The truth in is there, but one needs to dodge the rhetoric and look only at the data itself, which is mostly correct. And then, the Summaries for Policy Makers (SPMs) wildly misrepresent what the science sections have said and transmogrify it into something barely recognizable.
From the SPMs, the politicians, media moguls, the Davos Crowd, the Green-New-Dealers, the Great Reset-ers, turn the SPM political opinions into outright lies and give the media propaganda cabals their marching orders.
And then, here we are. Here I am. I have written about 100 essays and opinion pieces here since 2020 alone. I’ve been at it more than a decade. There are a few dozen of others like myself who have researched and written endlessly, both in books and on the ‘Net, to expose the lies, the disinformation, the misinformation, and the slimy political-shenanigans behind the efforts to “decarbonize” the economy of the world in the name of fighting global cooling, global warming, climate change, the climate crisis.
Every few years we see a slight shift towards the climate skeptic way of thinking in the general populace – and recently, a few nudges in our direction from governments. The UK will drill-baby-drill to supply its own energy needs from its own resources. Japan is re-opening nuclear power plants and building new ones. In November last year, General Motors announced that it will stick with internal combustion engines. India, the third-largest greenhouse gas emitter and the world’s most populous country , is planning for an expansion of its oil and gas sectors (even as it aims to hit net zero by 2070). Those living in the real world realize that as Africa grows itself into prosperity, into the world of middle-class nations, it will do so on the back of coal and petroleum produced electricity. Even relatively well-developed South Africa has acknowledged it needs to continue to burn coal for the present and foreseeable future.
I hope that readers see the obvious contrasts between the “reality” presented daily in the world’s mass media and what is actually happening in the world. A large percentage of the material appearing on this website points out those contrasts, every single day. Heartland, the CO2 Coalition, Clintel and other international climate skeptical organizations do so in print and through broadcasts, podcasts, YouTubes and interviews on wide-reaching news outlets. There are many climate skeptic oriented bloggers doing good work. Some of the “good news” is getting out there.
Is what we do worthwhile? Yes — It is always worthwhile to do what is right, to do what is good, to tell the truth, to fight the good fight against falsehoods and lies.
But are we making an impact? I can no longer tell – I am having a little bit of a “I think I’m burnt-out” stage. I see a news article about a topic, and I think, “That’s utter claptrap, I’ll write about that.” Only to discover that I’ve already written about it a half-dozen times and really have nothing further to say than what I have already said. I sometimes fear I just don’t have anything more to say, at all – and when I teach Public Speaking, I tell students, “If you don’t have anything to say — don’t get up to speak or if you are already up, sit back down.”
So, my question for the day, and please do comment, I promise not to get mad at you…..
Should I just sit back down and shut up?
or
Should I keep banging away, just because ‘someone has to’?
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Author’s Comment:
I guess the same question applies to all of us here….
This is, I hope obviously, a piece meant to stimulate discussion. So, please, please, discuss.
On Pielke Jr.: I like Pielke Jr. He does good work. He tells the truth as he sees it. He is one of the most effective of the “climate skeptical voices”, albeit in his own way. He is an IPCC-booster but even he thinks it needs serious reform. He has paid a heavy price for his temerity. Read his substack.
And yes, I do think that there is also some nonsense published here – some even written by me. That’s the price we pay for freedom. But, the way I see it, we err in an honest search for truth.
I don’t expect to take too much of a role in the discussion, I have said what I have to say above. But, if your start a comment with “Kip…”, I’ll try to reply.
Thanks for reading.
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My opposition to poor climate science started in 1992.
Been going ever since.
Never give in.
Value the lives of your children and theirs.
This green stuff is disgusting, ingnorant crap.
Geoff S
Geoff ==> And I appreciate your work. But, don’t be shy — give us your real opinion….
Phil Jones did it for me. What true scientist would refuse to let another see his data because “You’ll just try to find something wrong with it.”? If one was secure in his data, wouldn’t he say, “Here it is. Take a good look, and you’ll see my conclusions are correct. Marvel at my brilliance!”
That’s when I said, “Oh, something is going on here. . . “
JASchrumpf ==> Well done, very few logical critical thinkers in the world. We need more.
This is my first time posting at WUWT, but I have been reading the site for about a month now. Please keep up the good work! I consider myself a “recovering alarmist” and this site is like my therapy. My feeds are constantly flooded with doom and gloom and it can be overwhelming, when I start to feel the alarm creeping in I come to WUWT for some common sense and facts. I think having a good number of daily articles is necessary and still a drop in the warming ocean of total media on the topic /sarc. I consider myself a fairly intelligent/educated person and fairly recently got a graduate degree in Computer Science, but I don’t think I have the base science knowledge to really properly digest published papers and therefore, I greatly appreciate the accessibility and “common man” approach contributions that are made here.
Welcome to the dark side. 😉
I think a good starting point is to understand the ‘debate’ (Like we get a say) has moved well beyond science. It’s now deeply entrenched in politics.
I’m a layman with no recognised higher education and it took me asking a lot of really daft questions on here to learn. People have always been generous with their time, knowledge and humour.
I can only discuss/explain climate issues in layman’s terms, which is actually a big advantage as 90%+ of the worlds population don’t have a higher education far less a scientific one.
When we discuss the subject with others it can’t be done in scientific terms. We need to express it in ways the layman can understand. And unless you want to lose friends at an alarming rate, understand when to stop.
Jonny5 ==> Please, rest assured. The future will be better than the past — even better than your short part of it. In general, Earth’s climates are getting better for plants, animals, and mankind. There are always winners and losers in the game — but there is a net improvement.
Climate disaster deaths have become comparatively rare compared to 50 years ago. Mankind is thriving, forests are growing, even tropical reefs are thriving.
Whatever you do, don’t watch the evening news broadcast. Almost nothing you hear will be factually accurate (regardless of topic).
I’m reminded of Mark Twain’s quip, “If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do, you are misinformed.” Obviously, the attempt to manipulate the public has been going on for a long time.
I don’t have the slightest idea of just what is taught in CS departments these days – but, if it was anything like my day, you have at least learned that accuracy =/= precision, or vice versa. Also that, no matter what computations you apply to the numbers, you CANNOT affect either one in a positive manner, only degrade both of them by propagating the errors.
One book that is still in my library, although I am retired now, is “Introduction to Numerical Methods” – you can tell that it is quite old (published 1970) by the fact that all coding examples are in FORTRAN.
The VERY FIRST chapter is all about accuracy, precision, and error propagation – which the author considered to be the essential FOUNDATION for all of the succeeding chapters.
Should I just sit back down and shut up? No!
or
Should I keep banging away, just because ‘someone has to’?
Yes, but not “because someone has to”, but because persistent repetition of the truth will continue to erode the facade of lies.
Progress is being made. The growing intensity of the vilification of dissenters and skeptics is testament both to growing awareness of the falsity of the Green doom-mongering and their inability to admit or recognise their errors.
mikeq ==> I made the mistake once of looking to see what the vilifiers were saying about me — heartbreaking. Haven’t repeated the exercise.
Kip, think of it this way: If you are being ignored, you are not considered a threat. If you are being vilified, they are very concerned.
Just go back to the home page… Anthony has a permanent quote for this, originating with Andrew Breitbart.
“Walk toward the fire. Don’t worry about what they call you.”
since gores clifi effort and cop in 09 like many here Ive been vocal and shared the saner views on it
but yes I too am tired and wonder if we will win before I cark it.
going to surgery for 4 brain aneurysms next week,
guess if I make it out ok I will keep pluggin away,
we cant just sit back and watch them screw the societies worked so hard for to go to custard.
every comment every shared webpage here etc is a fight back
ozspeak ==> Added you to my daily prayers — God bless.
I don’t mean to incite controversy here, nor invade your privacy, but did you take any Covid vaccines?
Now you come to mention Gore, I began my inquiry into the climate change scam shortly after his ‘presentation’. I have been on WUWT, getting on for 20 years, I guess.
You are in my thoughts. Get well soon mate.
Time that you enjoy “wasting” isn’t (necessarily) wasted time.
No.
Even if sometimes you are limited to a “Here are 5 or 6 links going back a decade (or three) of me already ‘thoroughly debunking’ this specific issue”, you post enough “interesting” … to me at least … stuff in addition to that to be worth seeking out.
Note that this applies to several posters both ATL and BTL here, especially Willis Eschenbach.
NB : I personally also include Nick Stokes in this category. Although he is often “selective” in his point of view, when asked he has provided pointers to data several times in the past which have allowed me to work out exactly how he was “cherry-picking” the data !
I have cumulatively “wasted” quite a bit of time in those exercises, but I also ended up learning quite a lot from working out for myself the details of how people should not “interpret” the (complete) datasets.
Yes you should keep “banging away”, but not for that reason.
You should keep doing it as long as you enjoy “wasting” your time doing so.
You should do it because some other people, however few, react positively to your … “musings” (?).
One of the main reasons however, IMNSHO, is that personal development mostly happens when the “stimulating discussion” ends up completely overturning your original assumptions on an issue.
I have learned most during my (more than 5 decades of) existence from cycles of :
– (I think / believe that) X is true
– Someone on the Internet says X might not be true
– I change my “internal database” (/ spreadsheet) using an updated — or even a different / “better” — dataset of the variable under consideration
– “Hmmmmm … that’s odd …”
– Well [ bleepety bleepety bleep ] ! I was actually wrong all this time !
– (I think / believe that) X is definitely false … and Y is “true” (for now) instead
– Repeat … ad infinitum …
As long as you can contribute to that (continuous) process for yourself … and other people … by all means keep “banging away”.
Exactly.
It takes an emotional toll to get through the “***I*** was wrong all this time” phases … which are only partially compensated for by the (much rarer, in my case) “Well that showed them !” moments … but it’s definitely worthwhile in the end.
Mark ==> “but it’s definitely worthwhile in the end.” Yes, I have got to agree….
It may be the case that the fight against alarmism is one that will take decades to win but can be lost at any moment. It’s hard to predict what would have happened without all these skeptical voices keeping the spotlight on the alarmism and outright falsehoods blindly repeated in mainstream sources. What would have transpired if M&M did not slow the intended momentum of the hockey stick? Would Copenhagen have been the intended springboard for action if ClimateGate emails were not released and analyzed here? Would Congressional committees have found people like Dr. Curry without her voice being amplified by writings on this and other blogs?
I personally use your writings, and the many dozens of others here and elsewhere (Curry, Pielke Jr,, etc.), as a way to share these ideas with others in my circle, often in a professional setting to push back against magical thinking and plain bad logic of some policy proposals (government work, please don’t hold that against me). WUWT and other places like it provide a solid foundation in facts, particularly being well-armed with a reply to the latest alarmist talking point of the day, and that makes a real difference. The cumulative effect of people like me sharing your ideas in a coffee shop, or as the basis for asking critical questions in a boardroom, is hard to measure but I believe significant.
MJB ==> Thank you for letting me know that you have found some of my work useful….that is the true test.
Kip – your essays here have been good, so please continue when you find something that you wish to bring up. Always thoughtful.
Science does tend to self-correct, after a while of heading down the wrong path. It takes a while to change a paradigm (often funeral by funeral) since generations grow up believing what they’ve been told was the truth rather than seeing the evidence in front of them. It’s normally a minority that re-interpret the evidence and thus change their views on what’s actually happening, and normally to begin with they are castigated as wrong-thinkers.
The majority of people I know believe in CAGW and that we can fix the problem by reducing CO2 emissions. Not a day goes by without some reinforcement of that belief by some news item claiming that the latest weather event was because of human-emitted CO2. Propaganda is used because it works, but the newsreaders and editors actually also believe that it’s true (they have to keep saying it, after all, and repetition of some belief often enough makes the belief stronger, which is why in churches the Catechism is repeated by the congregation each time).
It’s not really about science, but beliefs. In reality, we can’t predict the weather or the climate any more than a few days into the future, and to believe that any prediction is more than a guess is actually pretty ridiculous. We can look at the past and make a guess about where things are heading, but we don’t know all the variables or how they interact. Do cosmic rays affect cloud formation, and will that vary over time as the Earth progresses through the galactic space? Does the meteor dust affect cloud formation? Do airborne bacteria affect cloud formation, and does that vary over time? Will our variable sun change either spectrum or power output in future? Could well be stuff we haven’t even thought of or haven’t measured that will affect the climate in future.
It’s pretty obvious from Willis’ analyses that CO2 and Global Average Temperature are not correlated on long timescales (thousands to millions of years), though it does look like warmer times precede increases inCO2, as would be expected from Henry’s law and that around 98% of the CO2 is in the ocean, not the atmosphere. It’s also obvious from history that in warmer times the living was easier and civilisations flourished, and that colder times brought hardship. A bit warmer than now would be absolutely fine. However, weather is still chaotic, and thus at any time we can have weather disasters (drought, too wet, too windy, too hot or too cold). Blame it on not sacrificing enough virgins, and it’s around the same value as blaming it on too much CO2.
Why did we get warmer periods and the Little Ice Age? We don’t actually know, which is a reason for trying to say that the MWP wasn’t global but only local weather. Ignore the evidence you can’t explain….
The CAGW (or Global Boiling) belief is huge and, like a massive ocean liner, will take a long time to turn around. Hang on to that rudder for long enough, and it will turn. Yep, there’s an iceberg in view, but we might miss it.
Simon ==> Thank you — and I have hung onto that rudder, both here intellectually and in real life at sea. The boat turned, eventually. I waiting to see the world’s governments turn a bit.
It isn’t just Henry’s Law at work. The seasonal ramp-up phase of CO2 is greatest in the Fall through early-Spring. It is the activity of bacteria and dormant-tree respiration responsible for that, which is increased by higher tempratures.
“Yet the jury is still out on how much of an impact on climate policy and public opinion this site, and the dozen or so other high impact climate skeptic websites, blogs, podcasts, etc., have made and will make.”
Well, I can say that here in Woke-achusetts, it’s having zero impact. Almost nobody in this state reads these sites. Anyone out there besides me in this state? Don’t all raise your hands at once. And few from the rest of New England.
Joseph ==> It would be possible to check that by registered IPs — I know we have readers from the Boston area, Cape Cod, Down North, the Berkshires — read the comments carefully (all of them, as I do, at least to my essays) and you will see the hints.
Not sure I follow you. How would I see the IPs? I think I’ve read most comments for about the last 3 years and can’t recall anybody actually saying they’re from MA. I think I recall a few from CT and a few from VT. I wonder about the “lurkers”. Are they just trying to learn? Are they wondering what the enemy is up to? Are they too timid to say anything to protect their career? Of course they don’t need their real name for a handle so they could hide who they are. I guess we’ll never know.
Joseph ==> Of course, I was unclear, you couldn’t, but the technical staff could trace the IPs by area…not sure how accurate such a thing is in the world of VPNs and all that, just saying.
I am a proponent of using Real Names — both as an author and as a commenter. I acknowledge that some dare not use there real name here and on similar sites — and that is a great shame for me as an American — that some people have to hide their names to protect themselves.
I even make public my public email to readers can contact me. [ my first name at i4.net ]
With Climate Science mirroring the political divides of our nation, things get difficult fast. But there are some, not me, that have bully pulpits and speak out and reach the general public.
We all must just gather round the weight and lift where we are.
All of the above mate.
You are not alone.
You never know who is on this site under the bedsheets……..
No, Kip, keep going. Giving up is just what the Climate Chicken Lickens want us to do…
atticman ==> Ya, I guess I am just gettin’ old and tired. Just a couple of years ago I was still full of piss-n-vinegar.
There is a new dawn mate.
Biden is torturing Americans, we in the UK are worse under our last 14 years of a conservative government.
But it’s all coming down.
There is a job yet, to build things up again. To extract us from the mire of climate doom.
It’s being expressed in the UK on dissident channels, including one ‘mainstream’ GB News, as Peak Net Zero.
We have two champions of sane politics in the west. Donald Trump and Nigel Farage.
Their popularity is in the ascendancy, not least because Nigel is taking on the British Banking establishment in a very public way over de-banking, as Trump is taking on the establishment over de-politicking.
Neither support NetZero.
There is a new fight to be fought, it’s political, not scientific.
You have earned your retirement from the fray.
Kip,
Folks such as yourself are necessary. I think perhaps you believe you do not make a difference but you do. At times you probably feel under appreciated.
But I also believe that the one prong approach, using facts and data only, is not going to work. The warmist’s agenda includes massive marketing of their position, propaganda if you will, and it is highly successful. It is successful because most people will not take the time to learn the facts and the science, most of that is over their heads so they ignore it. They focus on the emotional side. It is Sales 101, you don’t sell the steak, you sell the sizzle. And the warmists have been selling the sizzle, literally, for quite a while. Until that is matched by the same effort, the scaremongers will continue to win.
Jefferson et al wrote in the Declaration of Independence, that “all experience hath shown, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves…”.
So until people get hammered in their wallets enough, they will not change their opinion enough to take action. Hopefully it will not be too late by then.
Tom ==> Yes, quite right, “they” (the alarmist propaganda cabals) “sell the sizzle”. They have to, the facts are not on their side. so they sell “fear”, “alarm”, “worry”, “disaster and calamity”.
It might be that we (the good guys) won’t break their strangle hold on the media until their mad-mad-world-policy causes societal disaster.
Kip:
I would have to say the most important lesson that I’ve gleaned from WUWT is that The Climate (singular, worldwide) does not exist. The term has been arbitrarily defined as an average of 30 years of “global” air temperatures (GAT), but the GAT exists nowhere on the planet; no person anywhere can experience or dwell within it. A strong second lesson is that the GAT itself cannot be measured, even though people fool themselves into believing that it can be quantified. And even if it could be reliably measured, average air temperature conveys little information about actual climates (plural).
As far as I can ascertain, the term climate was used to explain to schoolchildren the difference between local, regional and national weather patterns, across continents.
karlomonte ==> You have that exactly right — changes in GAT/GAST are not real — they are scientific measurement monstrosities — creatures of the dark that do not live in the real world.
While frustrating, I think it is important to continue talking about the science while also pointing out the socioeconomic impacts of climate policy. While I doubt I make any difference and get attacked routinely, I comment on articles in the WSJ and other blogs and frequently cite articles from WUWT – posts like Willis E’s Bright Green Impossibilites/Bright Green California Dreaming and Where’s the Climate Emergency (along with the numerous other posts re: the emergency), along with articles by Mark Mills and the cost analysis done by Ed Hoskins – there is a site somewhere (I lost the link and have been unsuccessful finding it again) that provides a nice summary of failed predictions with the date the prediction was made, if the time has passed or not, the result and some other info. There are many lists, but the one I am looking for was particularly telling.
We are certainly swimming against a strong tide, but we have to keep fighting. It is depressing though to read articles like these:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-regulation-congress-white-house-economy-fc63c5d9?mod=opinion_lead_pos2
and
https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/energy-industry-fears-white-house-will-declare-covid-climate-emergency
I’ve repeated this several times – it will likely take some mass casualty event that can only be blamed on over-reliance on unreliables to wake people up who are not paying attention. I doubt it will have any affect on true believers – which includes most of the media.- who will simply claim that if we had more unreliables, the problem would have been averted.
All that being said, there does seem to be some sanity creeping into the conversation in the UK and a couple of other countries. Meanwhile, Putin and Xi are ROFL at the stupidity of western “leaders” as the race to out do each other in implementing policies that will destroy their economies while doing nothing to “save the planet”.
https://extinctionclock.org.
Thanks Dave – that’s the one! I won’t lose it this time.
Barnes ==> If nothing else, the people here are “mostly nice”.
Even griff. Largely……
Although he no longer contributes.
The objective is not to convince everyone of your viewpoint. Or to win the majority. It’s to get some of them to address reality. Eventually. Until the truth and the cycle of human mass psychology intersect. Mass psychology and truth because policy is entirely political marketing while we hold none of those cards.
On a related note, it feels like we’ve made strides due largely to economic reality dawning on people and the passage of time revealing failed predictions. AT the same time, it seems like all the skeptical climate scientists are aging and dying with few if any replacements.
Coach ==> “skeptical climate scientists are aging and dying with few if any replacements.” — with the anti-intellectual/anti-freedom-of-speech/cancel-culture in universities, the very people who should be leading our effort, except for the very few who we know well, are being silenced and pushed out. Once out, they fight on our side.
See Dr. John F. Clauser, recipient of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics, joining Will Happer and Dick Lindzen in the CO2 Coalition.
Most of the credentialed academic skeptics are retired and/or emeritus.
Pielke Jr. is among the youngest, but still fighting.
If every climate sceptic in the world retired tomorrow, the indisputable fact is, ‘the climate’ will win.
Yes, but do not expect to change minds. Persuasion is difficult with the disinterested and nearly impossible with the “true believers” of the climate change cult. Instead of measuring your contribution by a shift in societal sentiment, look instead to the moral support which you provide to people who are interested in truth revealed through honest scientific endeavors.
marooned ==> (Aren’t we all?) I have never expected to persuade….only to tell the truth.
That sounds so easy, doesn’t it? Ask any of the writers here — it is not easy, it is not comfortable, it is just plain hard work. Look at the massive calculations Willis churns out. I read often 10 or more journal articles and dozens of web pages and references just to write 2,000 words. (Wouldn’t be so onerous if I was getting a dollar a word….)
Climate change is discussed on all sorts of websites and forums, not necessarily scientifically oriented ones. WUWT has been a great resource for those of us seeking information and frankly ammunition, but that doesn’t do much until it is communicated to a broader audience. Informed people such as I find here need to not only commune with fellow believers but go out into the world and evangelize. Post comments challenging the conventional narratives on political and social media sites, even if you have to hold your nose while doing so. There are many people, especially young people, who are interested and open to learning, but have never heard the facts. They don’t know WUWT exists, and will never find us, so we have to take the facts to them.
It is politics, and the willingness to keep repeating oneself is needed.
Kip, do not stop. However, we need to show that there is absolutely zero proof that CO2 is the primary driver of climate change. I have looked high and low for a scientifically derived, peer reviewed paper that says so. Yes, it may contribute a very miniscule, again not proven, amount to climate change, but you are right, we are beating a dead horse.
Sanfroid ==> Will Happer and David Lindzen, two of America’s leading physicists, have shown this over and over and over again. John Clauser, 2022 Nobel Prize winner in Physics, just joined them in the CO2 Coalition.
The PHYSICS say CO2 is not and cannot be the primary driver of climate change.
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“The 1995 IPCC draft report said, “Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely to remain controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability of the climate system are reduced.” It also said, “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of observed climate changes to anthropogenic causes.” Those statements were removed, and in their place appeared: “The balance of evidence suggests a discernable human influence on climate.”
Michael Critchten lecture
Keep up the good work if you can and still have the energy. We need clear thinkers and contra-propogandists to keep the flame alive.
John ==> The support from the readers here supplies to oxygen to feed my flame….thanks.
2 deg C (maybe) in 100 years and they think that is the end of the world? And yet they all keep on using FF every day? Mental illness is a much bigger problem than I thought.
Kip, keep fighting.
The alarmist momentum is large because so many careers and dollars are at stake. But it is palpably slowing, and time is on our side. There are a number of indicia:
Rud ==> Always appreciate your input….
Kip,
In answer to your first question; NO!! In the immortal words of Commander Peter Quincy Taggart; “Never give up, never surrender!”
As far as the second question; maybe take a break. All of the repetitive, mind-numbing media can cause anyone to lose heart at times! I’d recommend sailing away to someplace exotic and peaceful, but it seems that that is already taken. How about reading Kipling’s “If,” then take a nice long walk. Remember that even the alarmists that come to this site are slowly getting their minds changed; look at the pretzels they have to produce to explain their “reasoning!”
Take a big, deep breath; and look at the beauty all around you! We are living in the Modern Climate Optimum, and only an idiot, an ignoramus or the criminally insane would try to profit from selling children a scawy story!
abolition man ==> Very sensible advice. That’s what I did last time I felt this way — wife and I sold the house, bought a boat, went to the Caribbean to serve the poor — for a decade. Aged out of that (though we still sail locally on “the little boat”)
When I have reached my intellectual limit, I read (far too many books, mostly digital today). Currently working on a “Book Review” of Darwin’s “On the Origin of Species” — darned interesting — one of the books we all “know about” but haven’t read as adults.
Very neat.
People have been coasting on this issue for years, always thinking that the heavy lifting will be done by others. Now coming to realize that their standard of living is about to be demolished, there is an awakening, and a backlash. Kip your work is necessary, more so now than ever.
Hi, Kip. Please do keep banging away. It’s a labor of love, especially for our children and grandchildren . . .
Bill ==> Ya, compare the future laid out by our prophets and the Prophets of Doom.
Climate science so called is not science.
peoPle are waking up to the fact its largely overhyped scare propganada, and it doesnt take a lot of intelligence – in fact in some ways the less you have the less likely are you to get caught up in the narrative – bullshit baffles brains – but the simple minded assume they are being taken advantage of – to work out that a lot of people are making a lot of money out of it and the ordinary citizen is footing the bill.
I’ve pointed out all the money going to big corporations and all the influence they buy with that money to keep it flowing. The response was “that is only normal business practice. Only Big Oil does it out of evil intentions and against the public good”.