Essay by Eric Worrall
First published JoNova; Kerry on fire: Talks were very productive, but didn’t produce a single breakthrough, and Xi ignored Kerry’s desire for a meeting.
As the world sizzles, China says it will deal with climate its own way
By Christian Shepherd, Emily Rauhala and Chris Mooney
Updated July 19, 2023 at 12:26 p.m. EDT | Published July 19, 2023 at 7:07 a.m. EDT
As parts of the Northern Hemisphere reach heat close to the limits of human survival, Chinese leader Xi Jinping declared in remarks reported Wednesday that Beijing alone will decide how — and how quickly — it addresses climate change.
Xi’s comments to top Communist Party officials, which came as U.S. climate envoy John F. Kerry wrapped up three days of talks with his Chinese counterpart, laid bare the challenge the world faces in curbing planet-warming pollution that is fueling heat waves across three continents. China has surpassed the United States as the world’s largest greenhouse gas emitter, and approved the construction of dozens of coal plants last year even as it added more renewable power.
China would pursue its commitments “unswervingly,” but the pace of such efforts “should and must be” determined without outside interference, Xi said late Tuesday. Xi’s approach marked a break from the 2015 Paris climate accord, where a Chinese-U.S. agreement paved the way for the international goal of keeping global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 Fahrenheit) above preindustrial levels.
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Speaking to reporters in a phone call Wednesday, Kerry described his talks with Chinese officials as “very cordial, very direct, and, I think, very productive,” but he acknowledged that they did not produce a significant breakthrough. The meetings marked the first time in a year that the two sides had met.
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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/07/19/climate-change-heat-wave-china/
What can I say? I’ve worked in Taiwan, so I know a bit about Chinese culture. What Kerry received was as close as a Chinese diplomat will come to telling you to “get lost” while remaining civil.
From Breitbart;
Xi Jinping Holds Climate Summit as John Kerry Visits China – Without Meeting with Him
19 Jul 202336
Chinese dictator Xi Jinping humiliated “climate envoy” John Kerry this week by holding a two-day “national conference on ecological and environmental protection” in Beijing without his American guest.
Xi fairly explicitly told Kerry to get lost in his remarks at the conference, declaring that China — the world’s worst polluter by a very wide margin — would set its own environmental “goals” and chart its own “path” to reaching them. Kerry limped out of Beijing empty-handed, mumbling about the “long and detailed meetings” he attended and “frank conversations” he held, but with no climate agreement in hand.
Xi’s two-day ecological conference was essentially a very long restatement of the evasion China has used on the climate change movement with great success thus far, vaguely promising that the heavily industrialized authoritarian regime will reduce its carbon emissions thirty years from now but, for the time being, it will burn as much coal as it pleases and no input from Western environmentalists is welcome.
“China’s commitments are unswerving, but the path towards the goals as well as the manner, pace and intensity of efforts to achieve them should and must be determined by the country itself, rather than swayed by others,” Xi declared at the conference.
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Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2023/07/19/xi-jinping-holds-climate-summit-john-kerry-visits-china-without-meeting-him/
I’m guessing China loves these excruciating diplomatic failures. China gets to play Middle Kingdom, with Kerry or Yellen or whoever playing the role of the unworthy supplicant begging for attention at the court of the Emperor, and in doing so heaps endless humiliation on the USA. Yet the feckless Biden Administration keeps falling for it, over and over.
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A stream of US officials going cap in hand, begging China to make Biden look good.
How humiliating.
This just in…
Xi Jinping leaves US Special Envoy John Kerry standing in the Lurch with his thumbs firmly entrenched in their usual locale
Explains the long face?
Humiliation is part of the kink.
By all appearances, Lurch certainly has had a humiliating week, (if he were a normal human being capable of humiliation).
As it is, my assessment is that he is sincere in his dissembling. Both sides benefit from the theater.
Of course, as mentioned in the article, it’s obvious that Xi gets to play the role of emperor demanding kowtowing and playing to his domestic audience.
Less obvious is the Obama III administration’s interests here.
Vast sums of money are being wasted on a Bastiat Broken Windows theory of economic development, namely that pouring mad money into a non-productive activity (deploying ruinable energy) will stimulate the economy.
Even Lurch—hell, even cadaver Joe—knows that the claimed purpose of controlling the weather is hopeless. Somebody has to be blamed for that inevitable failure.
The answer is intransigent China. But, just saying that China is to blame is not as effective as acting out the farce of sending a clown parade led by Lurch, hat in hand to be humiliated by the Chinese bogeyman.
After going through the motions of trying everything we could possibly do to get China’s cooperation, but being ruthlessly rebuffed at every turn, the administration can pivot to less impossible goals. The cronies are all snout in the trough and that won’t change (because government spending is forever). But now they don’t have to show any results. Win-win for them. Only we lose.
“(if he were a normal human being capable of humiliation).”
Lurch is not capable of humiliation. He thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. And nothing or nobody is going to change his mind.
And Joe Biden is just the same.
Two know-nothings that think they know everything.
I hate to say it, but no one deserves it better than the Biden Administration.
Sleepy Joe & Co may well “deserve it”, but I fail to see how they can be held to account; as Newton found out, shit naturally gravitates to ground level; China is doing what the USSR tried to do for 50 years and failed for the most part ; export their version of totalitarian control. The UK, like elsewhere has fallen hook line and sinker for Chinese bribes; bribes they can afford by acquiring western manufacturing and shovelling foreign currency into their central bank by exporting all the “stuff’ that western societies buy ( my my who said that recently?), suborning western Universities, stealing western intellectual property in truly massive quantities and inserting not so sleepy students such that western Universities are as deep into the equivalent Sino Belt and Roads as parts of Africa.
US citizens at economic ground zero will bear the brunt of the shit that flows from the tyranny of Bidenomics/Merkelonomics/Bliaronomics?various Ozanomics; same in the UK and elsewhere; this is not going to end well but at least the US has the legacy of “militia capability”. We don’t in the UK; recent events such as the Woke cancellation of bank accounts – a shade of the Woke AWG/CC/Net Zero blx – indicate to me “we” are a long way further down the Road to Hell than previously imagined. Just like Sleepy Joe, UK politicos will not face the Inquisition they are inflicting on the electorate….unless……?
The Totalitarian World is at war with the Western Democracies.
The leaders of the Western Democracies are oblivious to the creeping danger, or they profit from it in one way or another, and so ignore it at *our* peril. The leaders of the Totailtarian World are very happy about this situation.
The leaders of the Western Democracies are radical Leftists. That’s the problem. For one reason or another, they will only make this problem worse, not better.
The United States has the ability to vote out the radical Leftists in its midst (assuming no cheating). Sadly, that does not appear to be the case with the other Western Democracies as all their political parties are pretty much radical leftists. There are no common-sense conservative parties to vote for. No Gamechanger there.
The only Gamechanger is Trump.
We need the game changed.
I would really doubt the Chinese Communist Party will buy into western insanity.
they obviously are too smart & care more about their economy and the well being of their citizens (never thought I would say that) than virtue signaling
It’s a pretty sad day, when a communist dictator cares more for his people than the leaders of a so called democracy cares for his.
Sad day for who?
Wouldn’t go so far as to say Xi cares about his citizens, but he cares about maintaining power and will whip up patriotic furor in support of that goal.
Buyden cares just as little but would not be so gauche as to wave the flag unless it has a rainbow.
They won’t buy into it, but you can be sure they’re sponsoring it at some level – what better way to weaken your enemies?
57 varieties of being snubbed – how unfortunate
“”When you start to think about it, it’s pretty extraordinary that we — select group of human beings because of whatever touched us at some point in our lives — are able to sit in a room and come together and actually talk about saving the planet””
Xi was unavailable for comment
50 ways to leave your climate alarmists
Xi is still munching through his popcorn
John Kerry is a charicature of himself which is not saying a lot … a bag of air imitating a bag of air.
I know the model for Henson’s baritone sax player muppet – and he is still going strong!
Albeit unlikely to read this blog 🙂
It seems obvious that Xi read the recent WUWT posting: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/07/17/john-kerry-devastated-at-house-hearing-on-climate-by-scott-perry/
and came away concluding there was no need to meet with a climate change grifter.
Did he ride the train across the pacific to the Indian ocean to save on his “carbon footprint”?
“Honey, can I borrow the keys to the private jet? Pleeease?!”
“Just bring back an order of moo goo gai pan while you’re out. Without ketchup. Think you can handle that or do I have to write a note?”
Am I the only one who have a little pity for John “The Grifter” Kerry .. now that he diden´t get the opportunity to tell Xi Jinping that 98% of scientists agree that CC are man-made 😉
Scott perry hit the bulls-eye, the grifter, I´m still laughing … !!
yep
I sincerely doubt that there are 98% [sic – the narrative is 97%] of Chinese scientists who would agree.
BTW of the 96 Climate models averaged by the IPCC the Chinese model comes closest to actual measured temps over the periods previously modeled. Russian models are a close second.
I doubt Kerry needed to meet with Xi in order to receive the payout, Hunter being unavailable and all…
Hunter’s available. It’s not like he got caught with his hand in the cubbyhole or anything.
Hunters probably heading somewhere out of the way for the forseeable future. The Daily Mail reported that a Republican Senator has released the (slightly redacted) FBI report into the Biden cash for access/protection scam they were running with Burisma. Not the greatest smoking gun but doesn’t look good – how can Joe run for another term.
Realizing that at least 97% of the party faithful know the report is a
Trump lie gives you the answer.
You mean Joe and Hunter Biden extorting $10 million from the gas company, Burisma, is all Trump’s fault?
I think the chickens are starting to come home to roost for the Biden Crime Family.
I’ll be surprised if Joe is the Democrat candidate in 2024. If he’s smart, he should retire now for health reasons and maybe the Republicans won’t have him prosecuted for bribery.
Next up as a witness, is Hunter Biden’s estranged business partner, who knows all the details.
And did you know that John Kerry’s stepson was also associated with Hunter Biden up until recently when he decided to pull out of the relationship.
It looks like Hunter and Joe were doing all sorts of illegal deals with foreign nationals, and I’m wondering if ole John’s stepson might not have some invovlement in that.
I think we will probably know the answers to these questions before too long.
It doesn’t look good for Joe. That means it looks very good for the United States.
Speaking of China – (I visited Qingdao for 3 weeks) here is a web site that has articles about large infratructure projects, some in China, pretty interesting!
Infrastructure – The B1M
Give credit where credit is due. Kerry is certainly the premier American gigolo of this era. He might have more influence with the female dominated leadership of Europe. And he probably didn’t bring his entourage to China.
What Kerry received was as close as a Chinese diplomat will come to telling you to “get lost” while remaining civil.
I would say more like the middle finger than get lost
Almost certainly: yesterday Xi Jinping met with Henry Kissinger. And John Kerry still can’t get a photo-op, sorry, meeting.
Yeah, it looks like Henry is going to serve as a good propaganda instrument for Xi.
Henry wants to pretend that we can all get along, even as the Chicoms attack us on almost every front but actual physical confrontation.
Tell Xi to stop his relentless war against us, Henry.
The only thing the Chinese are interested in doing is sitting back with a big bucket of popcorn watching western economies implode from implementing various idiotic measures to fight climate change, whatever the hell that means.
Unless our geriatric-in-chief is ousted in next year’s election, China may well be the only world superpower by the time they are to start implementing their own measures to fight climate change, all without firing a shot. Is anyone foolish enough to believe they have any intention of doing any such thing?
Why should they? I’m willing to bet their scientists are telling them that climate change ain’t no big thing but a General Tso’s chicken wing. Or their leaders are smart enough on their own to know it’s bunk.
“Why should they?”
They aren’t.
They won’t, no matter what anyone else does.
They never had any intention of doing any such thing.
EVER!
“The only thing the Chinese are interested in doing is sitting back with a big bucket of popcorn watching western economies implode from implementing various idiotic measures to fight climate change,”
Exactly right.
They are loving the climate alarmist hyperbole in the Western press.
The fake deal with Obama in 2015 was that China would consider cuts in 2030.
Nothing has changed. They are still considering cuts……and still doing what’s best for China like they did 8 years ago and will likely still be doing 7 years from now……when the planet is still enjoying a climate optimum for life.
The wild card is to see when the developed countries start acknowledging the big picture truths about CO2 science and take a smarter path……similar to the Chinese on CO2 emissions.
On real pollution, they are failing horribly and the West is shining.
But CO2 is a beneficial gas by every authentic scientific definition.
Politics and crony capitalism and media sensationalism hijacked climate science for their agendas.
When will honest, objective scientists emerge to fight and take back control.
Its embarrassing to see China kicking our arses in applying legit climate science and rational energy policies.
Obviously the key word in the “agreement” (that bypassed Congress) is the word CONSIDER. Their trajectory foretells what their “considered” decision will be.
“The fake deal with Obama in 2015 was that China would consider cuts in 2030.
Nothing has changed.”
That’s not really a fake deal. It’s a stupid deal. But it was clear from the beginning that the Chicoms were not going to even consider reducing CO2 output until 2030, and when 2030 rolls around, they will reconsider their position. That’s what the agreement said, and that’s what they are doing.
Obama made this deal just because he needed a deal. He didn’t care about the details. He didn’t care that it placed no restrictions on the Chicoms.
The linked WP article makes the claim that the Persian Gulf International Airport recorded a heat index of 158F, almost reaching the limits of human survival.
Most younger people would have seen “158F” and panicked without reading the rest of the article which states the actual temperature was less than 100F – not unusual in that part of the world.
Also, “the limits of human survival” – I didn’t realise we all died off in the Holocene
Their models suggest (if accurate) 2 degrees F increase in 100 years. NOTHING in the models or theory predicts temperature extremes which have always naturally occurred.
Pretty standard Washington Post propaganda technique.
Kerry really thought China cares about carbon emissions?
Kerry, you’re drunk. Go home.
Please don’t use Kerry and thought in the same sentence – it doesn’t work
If the climageddon people like Kerry were genuine believers in their faith, they would immediately advocate new power plant construction in US, where the regulations are much stronger. They would advocate new factories and mining.
Instead, they advocate sending more and more manufacturing to China, when at this point, they should realize that their call for regulations and restrictions are subject to ridicule.
They don’t really believe this stuff. They know far more CO2 will be produced because of this arrangement with China. They probably know they’re destroying the power grid in the US. And that tomorrow’s electric cars will sit in driveways (away from anything flammable) uncharged.
It’s possible the career antisemite Kerry is just too dumb to figure most of this out, but others can.
Given how much China has paid the Biden family over the years, Biden had darn well better continue to fall for it.
Are they starting to see things now?
It is pretty hard to survive in the winter heat of Alaska or Siberia or Greenland. 😉
“China’s commitments are unswerving,…”
Sounds like China is committed to continue to build more and more coal-fired power plants.
The Chicoms are committed to not being committed to anything regarding CO2.
Xi is busy plotting to take over the world. Why would he meet with a buffoon like Kerry?
Correct – Kerry is doing fine ruining the west all by himself
Without wasting any more of my life than necessary:
To my mind there was 2 reasons:
Without wasting any more of my life than necessary:
Why did he even go there (to kow tow to his Chinese overlords)
Who invited him (He was invited was he?) (A necessary act of attrition of global US power)
What was the purpose of this visit (to help the USA lose face and bolster Xi)
What planning went into it (Biden said “Uh, um, uh, um, the, they, Al Shram, say hi to Xi IF you see him)
To my mind there was 2 reasons:
To find out how simultaneously unthinking, self-important and dumb he is
To reinforce (1) above,to humiliate the guy and see if he even notices
Did Kerry give a press conference on landing back in the US, waving a paper and saying “CO2 reductions for our time”?
The sad part of this is that Kerry is too dumb to realize how the Chinese insulted him during his visit. Xi holds a 2 day environmental conference to declare he will do it his way.
I think it’s fair to say Xi sees the western climate alarmism and it’s pet dog nut zero and laughs uncontrollably, hell, he may even commission a state comedy show about it for the titillation of his billions – if I were Xi, I too would love to see the West self harming the way they are, whilst building myself another 300 coal fired power stations to accelerate my nations progress
A normal person, having failed so significantly, would quickly resign. A younger professional government employee could understandably seek a different role. More proof that it’s way past time for Kerry to simply “pack it in” (together with Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein and a host of other “relics”. I’m the same age as those screwballs and I have no delusions about my place in the ‘workplace”. Incredible (I hardly belong on the golf course considering my “complications”.
I would be very much interested in knowing exactly what China’s climate scientists (if they have any) are telling the Chinese govt and the CCP in particular.
If China’s climate scientists and their govt know what the climate realists in the West know, they may laugh in Beijing every time western govts publicly spout the climate alarmist narrative, especially if Beijing sees the West as hellbent on economic self-destruction because of the narrative.
As noted below, the input from China to the 96 climate models averaged by the IPCC comes closest to the actual temps over modeled periods since modeling began.
What is really hilarious, face-stomping, and butt-kicking…
… is that Xi held an environmental conference to coincide with Kerry’s visit…
… And Kerry was not invited.
Snub: Xi Jinping Holds Climate Summit During Kerry’s Visit And Doesn’t Invite Him – Climate Change Dispatch
We are not in a climate crisis, CO2 is not the control knob for our climate and we are not going to reach a tipping point and suffer irreversible global warming. Kerry is a disgrace, Xi is a monster totalitarian and the US should have it’s backside kicked for being such a spineless slug. Fire Kerry today.
I believe that Red China realizes that there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on our global climate so they are just playing games with us.Anything they can do to earn our money so they can use it against us, they will do. In reality they are unconcerned about CO2 emissions.
China was OK with a meeting when SoS John Kerry and VP Joe Biden agreed to bypass the US Congress and agreed that China could increase emissions until 2030 and then CONSIDER leveling off, while the US immediately embarks on a REDUCTION to 1995 levels.
(Convince me that agreement was not telegraphed in advance.)
Ergo US economy has a handbrake locked on, whilst China freewheels…and exports massively to …..US consumers..Simples – Chinese style carbon credits that they pay for with OPM AND are carried out “offshore”……in plain sight. The Yanks have fallen for this….surely not?
Did Kerry even mention the 40gw of Chinese solar panels sitting in warehouses in Europe from slave labor camps in Western China? Hear no evil, see no evil
If Kerry or any other Western official of his status is so naive to think that China, India, Russia or any of the world’s major or minor emitters is going to undermine its economic development to fight what they probably consider a non-problem, they need to resign their positions and take a course in basic pragmatism.
IMHO, that is far far too smart for the current crop of politicians and their acolyte apparatchiks in the UK …..
Liar Kerry supposedly threw away his medals…oops! What a buffoon.
I must take another look at Ken Burns’ “Vietnam”, especially the latter episodes..
Given he is cut from the same hypocritical cloth that Al Gore wears “with pride”, I think he gives not a s***
If you want to read the real story of the Vietnam war read “Stolen Valor” by B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley.
They tell John Kerry’s story in there, including his fake military metals protest, among other things.
For once in a long time, we can accept Kerry’s overview about his trip to China.
He is right to say it was very productive.
The Chinese refuse to engage with his Climate Crisis nonsense and hence they are very productive….
Precisely why this entire climate change, net zero, green energy and cap and trade tripe will end badly for the U.S. should it continue down this path.anything we do as country will be zeroed out by China, India and Asian in general. John Kerry is an utter buffoon.