China The Renewables Leader? Do Your Homework, Guardian

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

By Paul Homewood

h/t Ian Magness

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/29/china-wind-solar-power-global-renewable-energy-leader

The Guardian don’t mention that China’s target was a very easy one.

Even now, solar & wind’s share of total electricity in China is under half that of the UK:

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Solar & wind capacity last year was 759GW in China, and according to the Guardian they have a target of 1200GW by 2030, so even then their share of generation in China will still be well below ours.

Significantly is this comment by the Guardian:

It says that as of the first quarter of the year, China’s utility-scale solar capacity has reached 228GW, more than that of the rest of the world combined.

China, of course, accounts for a third of the world’s electricity generation, so everything it does is automatically on a much larger scale. Nevertheless the Guardian’s claim suggests that the rest of the world is lagging well behind, rather than China storming ahead. Probably because most countries know that solar power is not the answer to large scale generation.

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Harry Passfield
July 1, 2023 2:19 am

As I commented over at Paul’s, that looks suspiciously like snow over the panels to me….

strativarius
Reply to  Harry Passfield
July 1, 2023 6:04 am

Not a million miles away from all those [registered] EVs left to rot in the fields

Reply to  strativarius
July 1, 2023 6:53 am

So that works out perfectly! The minions can file their reports to Dear Leader Xi that they have built impressive amounts of (snow covered, daytime only anyway) solar panels to charge the thousands of new EVs recently built (and stored probably forever and not needing any charging). Got to keep those rosy reports coming!

Richard Page
Reply to  Harry Passfield
July 1, 2023 8:07 am

So? The wind and solar installations are co-located with coal-fired power stations and the outputs merged before being sent on to where it’s needed. China’s renewables appear to be suspiciously efficient compared to the inefficient and wasteful coal plants….

Bill Toland
July 1, 2023 2:23 am

You can’t possibly expect a writer for the Guardian to do some research before writing an article. That takes time and effort and also some talent to create a readable article. If someone could do all that, he/she/it wouldn’t be writing for the Guardian.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bill Toland
July 1, 2023 8:14 am

It’s almost as if the Guardian’s Journalists are using ChatGP to write their articles

Reply to  Bryan A
July 1, 2023 9:10 am

Well the article does not have typing errors and the punctuation seem ok.
Yes ChatGP possibly wrote the article

ethical voter
Reply to  Bill Toland
July 1, 2023 1:31 pm

It would be less about work and more about agenda.

strativarius
July 1, 2023 2:32 am

Bigging up China is part and parcel of the Guardian’s style guide.

“”Is Pride the right target for Just Stop Oil? Yes, when it’s letting our common enemy off the hook””

Glastonbury got a free pass….

July 1, 2023 3:17 am

Trend Lines

July 1, 2023 4:14 am

And as we all know, capacity and output are two totally different things. Well, everyone except the graun, apparently..

Walter Sobchak
July 1, 2023 5:27 am

And you believed them. The Chinese Communist Party lies — about everything. There is no reason to beleieve a word they say about their “renewables”. It is all propaganda designed to put westerners to sleep while China monopolizes key supply chains with products made with coal fired electricity and slave labor.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
July 1, 2023 7:01 am

We can use China’s lies against the useful idiots among the econazis – everytime the new solar and wind installations are promoted by the green mob, we quickly acknowledge it, and then come right back congratulating China on the latest mega coal, gas, or nuclear build-out.

July 1, 2023 5:44 am

From the article: “Even now, solar & wind’s share of total electricity in China is under half that of the UK”

So China has a ways to go before they hit the “Renewables Wall”, while the UK is close to hitting the “Renewables Wall”.

My bet would be that even if China continued to build solar and wind, they would not be stupid enough to hit the “Renewables Wall” because they would continue to build adequate conventional backup for when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine.

Or maybe they will get really smart and do away with “Renewables” altogether since one has to build twice as much generating capacity to power a grid that uses wind and solar, so just eliminate the wind and solar and save yourselves some money and trouble.

Of couse, the Chicoms may just be bulding wind and solar for show, until the West finally bankrupts itself with wind and solar, and then the Chicoms will change policy.

strativarius
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2023 6:02 am

China pays lip service, but that is all. Just enough to keep the globalists off their backs. In many ways I see China as the pilot for future globalism. Yes, the organic pilot failed in the first year in Sri Lanka, but China is a more important experiment in social scoring and control.

China wasn’t just the birthplace of Covid 1984, it was the inspiration for lockdown.

Rick C
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2023 6:38 am

You’ll know that China is still relying on non-renewables as long as the lights don’t go out when the sun goes down.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Rick C
July 1, 2023 8:35 am

According to the Energy Institutes ‘Statistical Review of World Energy 2023’, published recently, global coal production rose by over 7% in 2022 to a record high of 175EJ. China, India and Indonesia accounted for over 95% of the increase and the growth of coal in China and India alone offset its decline in other regions

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 1, 2023 6:40 am

You brought up all the key points! China is far from from the renewable wall, and the wall keeps moving because they have no problem building more conventional and nuclear power plants.

I wonder if the Chinese are also building battery or pumped storage, or some other techniques to manage the erratic power production.

antigtiff
Reply to  PCman999
July 1, 2023 10:11 am

China is building Coal Power, baby

July 1, 2023 9:12 am

China knows, for every GW of renewables, you also need a GW of coal, gas or nuclear to keep the lights on

July 1, 2023 9:13 am

Solar & wind capacity last year was 759GW in China, and according to the Guardian they have a target of 1200GW by 2030, so even then their share of generation in China will still be well below ours

But what is the Chinese coal fired power station development and generation capacity growing?


John Hultquist
Reply to  nhasys
July 1, 2023 8:28 pm

But what is …”
Do you mean “why”?
The solar part soaks up the panels not sold to western countries.
The coal part produces electrical energy for home consumption.

July 1, 2023 9:51 am

They’re teasing us aren’t they – trying to embarass us all into buying ever more of the low grade tat & junk they make.

and we will because The World Is Now ***that*** Deranged & Stupid

J Boles
July 1, 2023 10:01 am

Do you think that China is putting up big solar projects and then not plugging them in? It would only disrupt the grid anyway.

Bob
July 1, 2023 3:48 pm

So the Guardian credits China with leading the world in solar, doing better than the rest of the world combined and yet they also lead the world in CO2 emissions. If solar is the answer for lowering CO2 emissions I say it’s a failed answer. These people are all nuts.

Reply to  Bob
July 2, 2023 3:39 pm

Your last sentence would seem to explain the whole “Climate Emergency” situation. I wonder how long before it will be mentioned in the same context as the Salem Witch Trials and the general mania of the early Protestant era.