From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Ian Magness
The Archbishop of Canterbury has torn shreds out of the Illegal Immigration Bill, labelling it “isolationist, morally unacceptable and politically impractical”, with “too many problems” to highlight in one speech.
Justin Welby attacked Rishi Sunak’s plan to ‘stop the boats’, which is facing its second major Parliamentary hurdle, with peers in the House of Lords scrutinising the controversial proposal.
“This bill has no sense at all of the long term and the global nature of the challenge that the world faces,” the religious leader said.
“It ignores the reality that global migration must be engaged with at source as well as in the Channel as if we as a country were unrelated to the rest of the world.”
The archbishop added the Bill does not address issues that are causing mass migration, including wars and climate change, saying it is “isolationist, it is morally unacceptable and politically impractical” to leave those problems to poorer countries.
It is a sin to lie, so maybe the Archbishop would care to explain just how many migrants are coming here because of climate change, which countries they are coming from, and provide the data to prove it.
Otherwise people might rightly think you are talking through that pointy hat of yours!
They might also suggest that you are so woefully out of touch with the real world that you do not belong in your job.
“It is a sin to lie”
So what did he actually say?
The link doesn’t work.
Nick,
The link did not work for me.
However go to itv.com and you will find the story dated 10 May by ITV News political correspondent Harry Horton,“Morally Unacceptable:Archbishop Justin Welby tears shreds out of illegal Immigration Bill”.
For the Archbishop of Canterbury to label the Immigration Bill as “politically impractical” is foolish in the extreme given Australia’s successful Sovereign Borders legislation which has bipartisan support in Australia and has been notably successful.
The Climate change référence by Archbishop Welby is pure hyperbole.
The archbishop is very close to God, who is all-knowing.
God must have give the archbishop a message to warn the world of its errant ways.
Officially Merging Global Warming with Religion?
However, the UK has mired itself into a condition with many structural problems, including coming to terms with the fact, the lucrative management of tens of $billions of foreign money is disappearing from the Financial Center of London, largely due to a lack of trust.
Immigration, illegal and legal, has greatly altered the physical mix in the urban centers of the British people, but the mental/psychological adjustments have not occurred, except mostly by somewhat-awkward tokenism, such as Bridgerton-style Netflix movies.
Illegals, no skill, no experience, no education, etc., from very poor countries, who add to the plentiful supply of such people in the UK, are attracted to the UK, because, during the past 50 years, various governments have created hundreds of programs to help them.
It would have been better, for all, to help them live better in their own countries
The total, mind-boggling cost of the forever government programs crowds out much overdue investments in UK infrastructures, which have led to the UK becoming a second rate industrial power compared to Germany, Japan, Korea, etc.
Where to find the willpower to back track from errant and non-performing ways is the real question for the UK
“It would have been better, for all, to help them live better in their own countries.”
Here are a few: Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Syria, Afghanistan, Sudan, – insert others –
Good luck.
Iran has the second largest gas reserves in the world.
Venezuela is no 1
A major part of Syria’s oil is being stolen by the US to pay for protecting the Kurds
Afghanistan has major deposits of rare materials, including lithium
All those 5 became worse off, after violent visits from the US military to install western-facing governments.
With BRICS + 19 applicants rising, they have a powerful alternative
“Hyperbole?” Is that what it is called now?
I don’t know why people are marking you down for a perfectly legitimate question – the original link wouldn’t work for me either, and I’m a Brit.
Here is the updated link:
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-05-10/morally-unacceptable-archbishop-welby-tears-apart-small-boats-bill
It’s the boy who cried wolf syndrome.
It’s not the legitimacy of the question but rather the apparent inability to find out by simply looking for himself that’s the problem.
You aren’t likely to be giving Sherlock Holmes a run for his money.
When faced with a failing link you can:
a) post on a public forum expressing your cluelessness
b) Note the link is: https://www.itv.com/news/2023-05-10/morally-unacceptable-archbishop-welby-tears-apart-small-boats-bil and concerning a bill and add an ‘l’, which in this case would work
c) Gone to the itv news site and clicked on their search button and found it as the 3rd story after the one about him being convicted of speeding
d) searched for the story in a search engine using “morally-unacceptable-archbishop-welby-tears-apart-small-boats” where it is the first result.
Harry,
If you think old Nick has the slightest interest in the content, you’d be mistaken. It’s just a minor flaw that he’s sniffed out in the story that he can nitpick about and discredit it.
You mean ” Nitpick” Nick !?
Old Nick,Old Scratch, Old Ned, Old Roger, Old Horny, Old Harry, Old Billy, Old Bogey
“The archbishop added the Bill does not address issues that are causing mass migration, including wars and climate change…”
If the Archbishop can tell us how a UK bill can address climate change, with respect to eliminating mass migration (first he would have to show some form of climate mass migration to the UK), then he is not a lying sinner.
But, he is of the faith that allows a simple recognition of his lie so he can start with a fresh slate once a month. But, I am guessing that he will not confess to this lie; living by the ‘ends justifies the means’ motto, and being confident in his position, also means that he has not sinned.
(“And if thy words stray from truth
for the good of God’s own,
if thy intent be pure,
thou shalt not be judged sinful.” — Sister Eula Goodnight)
Archbishop get out of the UK and open your eyes
People want to go to the US to escape poverty crime and evil communist regimes with no real skills and or a criminal record they fail to meet the standards for entry
Embedded within this mass are a considerable number of nasty criminals
Who wants the later element in their country will we ship them to the UK
The US has the right to restrict entry to protect it’s citizens
legal immigration- good
illegal immigration- bad
it’s as simple as that
As long as I can remember, this has been a political issue that divides people. There is virtually no effort to actually address the many issues in a meaningful way.
Illegal immigrants are pawns and are being used to effectively subjugate rightful citizens.
These influxes of illegals have seemed to be organized.
Who’s doing that?
The Red Cross is certainly helping
HB not to disagree with your sentiments but the bill in question is under consideration in Parliament in the UK. It’s not about us in the US.
On a day when the news is that Biden processed 11,000 new undocumented Democrats into the country, we’d have to concede that the Tories are at least paying lip service to the idea that you can’t have a country without borders.
Welby got fined for speeding….
This man’s day is to preach the gospel,
So,
What’s his track record for leading people to Jesus Christ? Is the number greater than zero?
It’s negative
The CoE has gone full woke and tossed the tenets of the faith out of the window
An own goal they like to blame on atheism
Hmm, I’m never sure if Welby even believes in Christ. I am, however, certain that Jesus Christ does not believe in Welby!
I imagine that he acknowledges that there was an indigenous rabbi who lived and died in Roman-occupied Palestine a really long time ago who had some good points about not k!lling prostitutes and giving money to the poor.
The Abp. probably isn’t too enamored with some of the rabbi’s unenlightened beliefs in illusions like Truth or sin. Certainly he regrets that the rabbi got himself killed for being too outspoken. Such a pointless death, when he could have just dialogued a bit more.
Jesus also trashed the tax collectors, so even though I am not Christian, he is dear to my heart.
Yet one of his Apostles was a tax collector (publican).
He “trashed” the doctrines and commandments of Men being taught as The Word of God. (Mainly by the religious leaders.)
Where did he single out publicans?
Money changers in the temple getting rich off the poor, he whipped, yes. Tax collectors he told not to overcharge. That’s proper direction for us all.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, etc. basically said pay your just taxes. And he was always sitting down to eat with them and calling them down from trees (shorty Zacheus), etc. Not a hater of tax collectors.
So I don’t want to turn you off on him, but you might re-check your facts. You don’t believe in him but he still believes in you, and even the Archbishop of Canterbury (probably 😝)
Methinks we were missing just one little letter ‘l’
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-05-10/morally-unacceptable-archbishop-welby-tears-apart-small-boats-bill
Computers eh, ain’t they just sooooo great. Everybody should have one.
Migrants are coming because they are hungry. They are acting ‘on instinct’ in a zombified state because of that hunger – they don’t really know what they’re doing.
Thanks to repeated tales of how ‘Everything has never been better‘ coming out of the UK and other places, as seen on TV and repeated by infallible & always-right computers/internets, they go in search of this never betterness
So far so good, what’s wrong with that
UK won’t let them in because the UK is hungry too but UK has assuaged it’s hunger by eating massive amounts of sugar – to the exclusion of most everything else.
(Apart from Protein, which when consumed to excess is simply converted to sugar by our own metabolisms. Doing twice the metabolic damage – the protein metabolites wreck livers and especially kidneys)
But eating and metabolising sugar only makes the folks who do it paranoid, zombified and instinctual also.
They then take knee-jerk instinctual & panic-driven over-reactions to trivial and wildly exaggerated threats.
e.g. CO2, Ozone, Putin, PM particles, Nitrogen, Diesel, Methane, saturated fat, salt and worst not least, their own neighbours and the opposite sex
Within themselves they know this so they conceive of political correctness as a device to tell lies about their motives and actions. To try and hide or to pass the buck.
And they do this because they like eating sugar. Sugar is a drug: It makes its consumers happy. For a an hour or so, then……
But exaggeration is lying. And so is saying nothing when you should.
And buck-passing among such an affected population is ‘incendiary’ to put it mildly.
Hello Ukraine, is the weather nice this morning…….
it was predicted. it is happening,
Eisenhower and Ehrlich were reading from the same hymn sheet
Yesterday I pointed you to: Wetiko
see the attached for a little more info
It came from here and makes scary reading – it talks of The Ultimate Hunger = Cannibalism
Okaaaay, nobody is eating anybody else: “So what” you say.
No, the lies are much more subtle than that.
What are:
Because all those things are a variation on Cannibalism = sucking the life out of other people to sustain yourself.
YOUR self – not any other ‘self’ as is always “think of the children” claimed.
Why the Archbishop is lying is because he is guilty as hell of all those things – and he knows it. He lies by omission.
## This is just soooo awful.
and underlines all the above rant.
Basically, the mother of a 4yo autistic child let her own child scream its head off for 2 minutes (being scalded/burned by a chicken nugget) while she took videos and recordings of the event – with her head/mind/eyes patently on the compensation she was gonna get.
i.e. A mother cannibalised her own baby.
= at ITV news
https://www.itv.com/news/2023-05-12/mcdonalds-found-liable-after-chicken-nugget-burned-four-year-old-girl
and The Lawyers got rich
Is this what happens when you only eat fat, or did you just fall off the “sugar” wagon?
Peta’s heart is in the right place.
Behind the sternum?
It’s becoming more likely that folk will leave the UK to escape from the likes of Archbishop Welby and his cohort of climate catastrophists who are bit by bit destroying the fabric of the UK in pursuit of their Net Zero by 2050 insanity.
Small boats going back the other way would be amusing, how would they explain that?
Racist xenophobes flee diversity and inclusion…etc
Climate change in France is so very bad we English go on holiday there, but then…
“Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday Sun”
The whole world has gone mad, where would we go?
Women’s prison?
Welby’s existence is dependent on poverty.
Facts about Global Warming? Nope. They are articles of faith.
Is this the same Justin who has a problem with defining what a woman is? The CoE was once so much better at education than this … did Justin make it go wrong?
Two thousand years ago plus people certainly moved around when circumstances (including climate change) dictated it but people preferring English Channel dangers to French hospitality is surely something else entirely.
Abuse of children, sexually, mentally and physically, is morally unacceptable
Taking money from poor people to fund wealthy churches is morally unacceptable
Waging war on people’s sexuality is morally unacceptable
The Archbishop’s church, and other religious groups, are guilty of all the above and more.
Deporting illegal immigrants is not morally unacceptable, quite the opposite.
The Arch Bishop should realize that if climate migration is not controlled, the British Isle will tip over! /sarc
More seriously has he compared the size of England with the world’s population who live in a climate warmer than his and are also very poor?
Does he think the flow will stop when the standard of living of the average English person starts to dip? Or will it continue as long as the conditions in England are marginally better than the migrants’ native land? (And there is EQUITY throughout the world, Amen.)
Did you know that those collars worn by religious leaders were initially designed to be tightened so securely that oxygen loss to the brain would produce a state often mistaken as divine in nature?
In that state, of course, the brain isn’t really capable of analysis or reasoning. Repeated tightening would eventually lead to permanent brain damage. At which point, elevation to Archbishop is possible, Cardinal if in the Catholic church.
Facts are not important. Justin has Faith. As do millions of middle school science teachers and the hundreds of millions of schoolchildren who are deprived of learning critical thinking skills in schools around the world these days.
What these leaders do to children’s brains is remarkably similar to the collar approach of centuries past.
Makes sense. The Pope overtightened his collar too often!
A blog commenter in the UK (not me) pointed out that God ejected Adam and Eve from the Garden on the spot. No second chance and don’t even think about coming back. However, the Almighty didn’t have to deal with the House of Lords.
No wonder Brits no longer bother going to church.
As I said, In terms, on another blog, if the Archbishop was so concerned that CC was causing people to migrate from the south, then he would have moved Canterbury to Reykjavik.
Also, all the Americans in Chicago would not be dreaming of a place in Florida when Winter hits.
Archbishop Blames Climate Change
Schools do it, fools do it
Even those without a clue can spew it:
Eschew it! it’s CO2
Chicken-little greens blame it
pre-pubescent teens will name it
No sweat, every con can game it:
It’s CO2
Proles and those elites, bedighted,
Every snowflake cow’ring low, afrighted,
poetic pols – they should all recite it;
Why fight it?
It’s CO2.
No moral human being condones it
Any self-respecting GS-8 bemoans it
CF- CO- and CEO’s – they own it
Intone it: It’s CO2
Peers say it, DJ’s play it,
Asses in pointy hats can bray it
Don’t delay it: Blame CO2!
Cole Porter move over.
I don’t much care what the archbishop thinks, I’m share he is educated he might even be a decent preacher but I don’t go to church for climate, science or political instruction. Likewise I don’t look to scientists, politicians or academics for spiritual guidance. I suggest he spend more time being a critical thinker and less time thinking I should listen to him.
preachers preach …
If he was good at it he would be doing it.
What he has been good at is politics.
Preaching didn’t get him where he is, politics did.
When an ecclesiastical figure wanders into secular arguments, their opinion has no more value than any other random individual.