Essay by Eric Worrall
Is the increasing climate activist shunning of Australia a blessing or a curse?
Star teenage British athlete won’t fly to Australia over climate concerns
By Rob Harris
January 26, 2023 — 8.27am…
Runner Innes FitzGerald, 16, is a rising star in UK athletics, having set a national under-17 record for 3000m and finished fourth in the 4000m race at the under-20s European Cross Country Championships in Turin last month against athletes three years older.
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The teenager, whom the British press has dubbed the “Greta Thunberg of sport”, wrote to the sport’s governing body this week to say she was not available for selection because she could not in good conscience make the trip to the championships in Bathurst, NSW, in February.
“To have the opportunity to compete for Great Britain in Australia is a privilege,” she wrote. “When I started running, the prospect of me competing in the World Cross Country Championships would have seemed merely a dream. However, the reality of the travel fills me with deep concern.
“I was just nine when the COP21 Paris Climate agreement was signed. Now, eight years on, and global emissions have been steadily increasing, sending us on a path to climate catastrophe.”
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Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/star-teenage-british-athlete-won-t-fly-to-australia-over-climate-concerns-20230126-p5cfk8.html
Despite the lack of personal visits from leading climate influencers, their message is still getting through. We have our own home grown batch of Greta wannabes.
June 1, 20215:40 PM GMT+10
“Australia’s Greta Thunberg” steps up climate change activism
SYDNEY, June 1 (Reuters) – Leading thousands of protest marchers through central Sydney and joining a landmark class action lawsuit aren’t the usual activities for most 14-year-olds.
But Australian student Izzy Raj-Seppings has abandoned more frivolous extracurricular activities in favour of stepping up pressure on the country’s leadership to battle climate change.
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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-greta-thunberg-steps-up-climate-change-activism-2021-06-01/
On balance I think the isolation is harmful to the political health of Australia.
There was a time Australia’s isolation helped mute contact with the 20th century insanity which ripped through much of the Northern Hemisphere. Sure we had homegrown communists and fascists, and our contribution to WW1 and WW2 had a significant impact on Australia, many Australian heroes lost their lives fighting Japan and Germany. My great uncle once used some very Aussie slang phrases when speaking to the nurses on an allied medical ship – they hadn’t tended his wounds, because they thought he was German. The Aussie city of Darwin in the far North was bombed by Japan in WW2.
But the most exciting thing which happened to my family during the wars and upheavals of the 20th century, other than those who served, was one time when a light aircraft apparently got too close to an American warship docked in Melbourne. My grandpa told me many times about dragging my Grandma and the kids into their air raid shelter, as pieces of flak rained over Melbourne, and punched holes through people’s roofs.
Those days of isolation and relative safety are long gone. Nowadays, for good or ill, the internet invites global influencers and all the worlds troubles into homes and schools everywhere.
Given access via the internet, does it make a difference whether foreign climate fanatics visit Australia in person to spread their poison?
I believe the lack of in person contact likely makes things worse. If Australian greens could see their climate heroes up close, they would have more of an opportunity to notice they don’t walk on water, that they are human beings with human failings.
I believe Aussie obsession with climate activism is likely made worse, because our homegrown Gretas and Innes FitzGeralds are trying to live up to mythical ideals, rather than interacting with flawed human leaders whom they have met in person.
“I was just nine when the COP21 Paris Climate agreement was signed. Now, eight years on, and global emissions have been steadily increasing, sending us on a path to climate catastrophe.”
Laughing out loud that there hasn’t been any warming in those eight years. Maybe someone should tell her.
Tell her? These people don’t want to know the actual big picture facts. They were told the ’cause’ (man made CO2) and that is enough to go by. Actually discussing the theories behind or the observed evidence isn’t part of the plan.
There is ample evidence that Sweden has actually cooled in Greta’s lifetime.
Never let fact get in the way of a good hair braid.
She obviously does noit have the intellect to follow the facts, so why bother. Better just to realise how fortunate Australia is to have avoided her presence.
Or the intellect to understand her own situation as an international sports star. Is she only going to compete within a train ride of home? Maybe she should sign up for a good-paying green job washing solar panels and collecting birds and bats struck down by windmills.
“international sports star”? Excluding WUWT readers, who outside her hometown knows who she is?
“international sports competitor” would be more accurate.
But that’s not really the point of the story.
“there hasn’t been any warming in those eight years.”
Australia has actually COOLED by some 0.5C in the last 7 or so years…
You can’t reason with stupid or indoctrinated.
Climate Howlers make up any prediction or claim they need to suit their narrative. They will never recognize UAH satellite data because they can’t control the numbers. They have thoroughly brainwashed students for the past 40 years. Inconvenient data will be “revised”, Try to find the 1940 to 1975 global cooling originally reported in 1975, as CO2 levels rose. It has disappeared ! That problem” has been “fixed”.
The 1930s in the US used to be called the Dust Bowl. After a few more “revisions”, I predict the 1930s will be called the Snow Bowl.
Most students have been brainwashed to \think the climate catastrophe is coming.
The “coming” climate catastrophe has been coming since the 1979 Charney Report but failed to show up for the past 43 years.
No problem. The predictions of climate doom will continue.
Climate change is nothing more than predictions of climate doom. Wild guesses and wrong for the past 43 years.
Leftist scaremongering won’t stop. If not global warming scaremongering, then something else. Maybe Covid scaremongering. Wait, we already had that one. Maybe Putin / Russia scaremongering.
Even Republicans do it:
We had weapons of mass destruction scaremongering. And radical Islam scaremongering. Before that was the cold war scaremongering. But we were safe, hiding under our desks at school, if THE BOMB was dropped by the Russians.
The next leftist boogeyman could be Putin / Ukraine in 2023, the failing Nut Zero project in 2024, and my personal favorite: An Invasion of aliens in 2025 (from outer space — we already have an invasion of aliens from Mexico).
There has to be a boogeyman to create the fear that leads people to demand that their governments do something. The boogeyman can be real and exaggerated, like Covid, or fake, like climate change. Real or fake doesn’t matter. What matters is that most people believe there is a boogeyman.
Of course the leftist “solution” for any boogeyman is ALWAYS more government power. More spending, more mandates and less personal freedom.
A daily list of the best climate science and energy articles I’ve read that day (25 articles today) are always at:
Honest Climate Science and Energy
This leads to the bigger question: What have our Governments (here’s looking a you UN) done to our children?
As we know that most politicians are puppets the bigger question should be Who are the masters behind the curtain ? Who has so much power that it really doesn’t matter who wins the elections ? Or do we really think Biden is in charge ?
This is precisely why I believe the voting age must be raised to 30 and limited to those who are holding down a real productive job, paying tax and not living in their parents’ basement. Many who are 18 let alone 17 cannot be trusted to vote intelligently with some understanding of the most important issues. A qualified vote would get rid of these easily swayed emotional youth and remove their influence from government climate decisions.
Here in the US, Democrats are fighting to have the voting age lowered to 16.
They also want to extend voting to those who are here illegally.
Our ex Prime minister Jacinda was trying to lower the voting age to 16 from 18 in New Zealand .
We have a massive problem with young people stealing cars and ramraiding them into shops and stealing thousands of dollars worth of goods .
When the police catch some of them they are told that thet are to young to charge with a crime at 16 and 17.
BUT the government wants to give them the vote .
It is very obvious that out Labour Greens government believes that the majority of 16 and 17 year olds would vote for them because of the propaganda about climate change that these young people have been taught at school.
Most USA inmates are male. I still think males should be allowed to vote.
There are better reasons to exclude children from adult decision making.
Establishing who is adult without accepting 1000 year old norms is where biology becomes politically unacceptable as science – it must be so difficult to be an earnest biologist today.
I’ve actually heard some propose lowering it to 14.
Perhaps someone should point out to her that all those attending the never ending climate talks do not share her opinion. They are quite happy to jet around the world at the drop of a hat.
In private jets, no less.
Perhaps the Olympic Games should be held virtually. It would be good for climate change and more records could be set.
I am a little conflicted regarding my view of her.
On the one hand I admire her integrity and willingness to sacrifice her career for her profoundly held beliefs. Chariots of Fire and all that.
On the other hand I am appalled that in this age of the internet, with access to endless data. She has chosen to believe something that is not true, rather than seek out the facts and form a considered opinion.
Hey Ho, life is not always rational.
Doesn’t she know that doing sport actually produces more CO2 ?
I hope her running shoes have no oil related material.
And where were those shoes made ? Britain ? or did those shoes first have to travel half the globe ?
You’re on to something. Use of synthetic materials of construction for shoes (and clothing) should not be allowed.
Let them race wearing wooden clogs
Clogs continued to be worn by agricultural workers well into the 20th century, as their sturdiness guarded against injury. To this day, wooden shoes are still a common choice for farmers and gardeners in rural parts of Holland.
Mainly because mud doesn’t stick to wooden shoes. It is uncanny my boots will be completely caked in mud working in the spring garden and my father in law, right beside me has clean klompen.
“Doing sport actually produces more CO2?”
Did you mean that breathing hard produces more CO2?
If so, that’s not true.
Human beings do exhale almost three billion tons of carbon dioxide annually, but the carbon we exhale is the same carbon dioxide that was “inhaled” from the atmosphere by the plants we consume.
Only partly true. Much more CO2 is exhaled than inhaled. The additional CO2 comes from the carbon in the food we eat, which comes from the carbon in the food farm animals eat or from the vegetables we eat, which all get their carbon from ……. the CO2 in out atmosphere. It is all part of the carbon cycle and you are correct, the CO2 we breathe out is not increasing the atmospheric CO2, just returning to whence it came.
HOW DARE YOU! bring up facts.
Shes a fast runner and a stupid girl
Let’s be honest. not polite.
All these kids are brought up to just ‘Google’ it. So while the data and information are out there, it is not always easy to find if one uses an extremely biased search engine. There are probably two hundred results about climate catastrophe and end of the world before someone would find a skeptical article.
Exactly, i have experimented with this over the years. Something like the internet that should be transformational reduced to just a propaganda machine
Type in “WUWT”. This website is not beloved by Alphabet corp.
I did. It came up with a whole lot of WUWT articles. Mind you, the fact that I use Duck Duck Go does help!
In other words: this is about religion.
“On the other hand I am appalled that in this age of the internet, with access to endless data. She has chosen to believe something that is not true, rather than seek out the facts and form a considered opinion.”
Right so her beliefs, which are supported by almost every nationally representative scientific body in the world are wrong. Hmmm….. You better start writing to those organisations and tell them….. Here’s the list for you to make a start.
https://www.opr.ca.gov/facts/list-of-scientific-organizations.html
Academia Chilena de Ciencias, ChileAcademia das Ciencias de Lisboa, PortugalAcademia de Ciencias de la República DominicanaAcademia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de VenezuelaAcademia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de GuatemalaAcademia Mexicana de Ciencias,MexicoAcademia Nacional de Ciencias de BoliviaAcademia Nacional de Ciencias del PeruAcadémie des Sciences et Techniques du SénégalAcadémie des Sciences, FranceAcademies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of CanadaAcademy of AthensAcademy of Science of MozambiqueAcademy of Science of South AfricaAcademy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)Academy of Sciences MalaysiaAcademy of Sciences of MoldovaAcademy of Sciences of the Czech RepublicAcademy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of IranAcademy of Scientific Research and Technology, EgyptAcademy of the Royal Society of New ZealandAccademia Nazionale dei Lincei, ItalyAfrica Centre for Climate and Earth Systems ScienceAfrican Academy of SciencesAlbanian Academy of SciencesAmazon Environmental Research InstituteAmerican Academy of PediatricsAmerican Anthropological AssociationAmerican Association for the Advancement of ScienceAmerican Association of State Climatologists (AASC)American Association of Wildlife VeterinariansAmerican Astronomical SocietyAmerican Chemical SocietyAmerican College of Preventive MedicineAmerican Fisheries SocietyAmerican Geophysical UnionAmerican Institute of Biological SciencesAmerican Institute of PhysicsAmerican Meteorological SocietyAmerican Physical SocietyAmerican Public Health AssociationAmerican Quaternary AssociationAmerican Society for MicrobiologyAmerican Society of AgronomyAmerican Society of Civil EngineersAmerican Society of Plant BiologistsAmerican Statistical AssociationAssociation of Ecosystem Research CentersAustralian Academy of ScienceAustralian Bureau of MeteorologyAustralian Coral Reef SocietyAustralian Institute of Marine ScienceAustralian Institute of PhysicsAustralian Marine Sciences AssociationAustralian Medical AssociationAustralian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Bangladesh Academy of SciencesBotanical Society of AmericaBrazilian Academy of SciencesBritish Antarctic SurveyBulgarian Academy of SciencesCalifornia Academy of SciencesCameroon Academy of SciencesCanadian Association of PhysicistsCanadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric SciencesCanadian Geophysical UnionCanadian Meteorological and Oceanographic SocietyCanadian Society of Soil ScienceCanadian Society of ZoologistsCaribbean Academy of Sciences viewsCenter for International Forestry ResearchChinese Academy of SciencesColombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural SciencesCommonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)Consultative Group on International Agricultural ResearchCroatian Academy of Arts and SciencesCrop Science Society of AmericaCuban Academy of SciencesDelegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and LettersEcological Society of AmericaEcological Society of AustraliaEnvironmental Protection AgencyEuropean Academy of Sciences and ArtsEuropean Federation of GeologistsEuropean Geosciences UnionEuropean Physical SocietyEuropean Science FoundationFederation of American ScientistsFrench Academy of SciencesGeological Society of AmericaGeological Society of AustraliaGeological Society of LondonGeorgian Academy of SciencesGerman Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina Ghana Academy of Arts and SciencesIndian National Science AcademyIndonesian Academy of Sciences Institute of Ecology and Environmental ManagementInstitute of Marine Engineering, Science and TechnologyInstitute of Professional Engineers New ZealandInstitution of Mechanical Engineers, UKInterAcademy CouncilInternational Alliance of Research UniversitiesInternational Arctic Science CommitteeInternational Association for Great Lakes ResearchInternational Council for ScienceInternational Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological SciencesInternational Research Institute for Climate and SocietyInternational Union for Quaternary ResearchInternational Union of Geodesy and GeophysicsInternational Union of Pure and Applied PhysicsIslamic World Academy of SciencesIsrael Academy of Sciences and HumanitiesKenya National Academy of SciencesKorean Academy of Science and TechnologyKosovo Academy of Sciences and Artsl’Académie des Sciences et Techniques du SénégalLatin American Academy of SciencesLatvian Academy of SciencesLithuanian Academy of SciencesMadagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and SciencesMauritius Academy of Science and TechnologyMontenegrin Academy of Sciences and ArtsNational Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, ArgentinaNational Academy of Sciences of ArmeniaNational Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz RepublicNational Academy of Sciences, Sri LankaNational Academy of Sciences, United States of AmericaNational Aeronautics and Space Administration National Association of Geoscience TeachersNational Association of State ForestersNational Center for Atmospheric Research National Council of Engineers AustraliaNational Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New ZealandNational Oceanic and Atmospheric AdministrationNational Research CouncilNational Science FoundationNatural EnglandNatural Environment Research Council, UKNatural Science Collections AllianceNetwork of African Science AcademiesNew York Academy of SciencesNicaraguan Academy of SciencesNigerian Academy of SciencesNorwegian Academy of Sciences and LettersOklahoma Climatological SurveyOrganization of Biological Field StationsPakistan Academy of SciencesPalestine Academy for Science and TechnologyPew Center on Global Climate ChangePolish Academy of SciencesRomanian AcademyRoyal Academies for Science and the Arts of BelgiumRoyal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of SpainRoyal Astronomical Society, UKRoyal Danish Academy of Sciences and LettersRoyal Irish AcademyRoyal Meteorological Society (UK)Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and SciencesRoyal Netherlands Institute for Sea ResearchRoyal Scientific Society of JordanRoyal Society of CanadaRoyal Society of Chemistry, UKRoyal Society of the United KingdomRoyal Swedish Academy of SciencesRussian Academy of SciencesScience and Technology, Australia Science Council of JapanScientific Committee on Antarctic ResearchScientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial PhysicsScripps Institution of OceanographySerbian Academy of Sciences and ArtsSlovak Academy of SciencesSlovenian Academy of Sciences and ArtsSociety for Ecological Restoration InternationalSociety for Industrial and Applied MathematicsSociety of American Foresters Society of Biology (UK) Society of Systematic BiologistsSoil Science Society of AmericaSudan Academy of SciencesSudanese National Academy of ScienceTanzania Academy of SciencesThe Wildlife Society (international)Turkish Academy of SciencesUganda National Academy of SciencesUnion of German Academies of Sciences and HumanitiesUnited Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate ChangeUniversity Corporation for Atmospheric ResearchWoods Hole Oceanographic InstitutionWoods Hole Research CenterWorld Association of Zoos and AquariumsWorld Federation of Public Health AssociationsWorld Forestry CongressWorld Health OrganizationWorld Meteorological OrganizationZambia Academy of SciencesZimbabwe Academy of Sciences
A million voices screaming a lie are still wrong.
The science organizations are corrupted by greed. Follow the (funding) money.
Compiling that list was an exercise in futility. It would be pointless for Mr. Evans to write to any of them
That the APS (American Physical Society) refused to listen to Hal Lewis made it clear they (and all such “scientific” organizations) will not listen to anyone.
To: Curtis G. Callan, Jr., Princeton University, President of the American Physical Society
6 October 2010
Dear Curt:
When I first joined the American Physical Society sixty-seven years ago it was much smaller, much gentler, and as yet uncorrupted by the money flood (a threat against which Dwight Eisenhower warned a half-century ago).
Indeed, the choice of physics as a profession was then a guarantor of a life of poverty and abstinence—it was World War II that changed all that. The prospect of worldly gain drove few physicists. As recently as thirty-five years ago, when I chaired the first APS study of a contentious social/scientific issue, The Reactor Safety Study, though there were zealots aplenty on the outside there was no hint of inordinate pressure on us as physicists. We were therefore able to produce what I believe was and is an honest appraisal of the situation at that time. We were further enabled by the presence of an oversight committee consisting of Pief Panofsky, Vicki Weisskopf, and Hans Bethe, all towering physicists beyond reproach.
I was proud of what we did in a charged atmosphere. In the end the oversight committee, in its report to the APS President, noted the complete independence in which we did the job, and predicted that the report would be attacked from both sides. What greater tribute could there be?
How different it is now. The giants no longer walk the earth, and the money flood has become the raison d’être of much physics research, the vital sustenance of much more, and it provides the support for untold numbers of professional jobs. For reasons that will soon become clear my former pride at being an APS Fellow all these years has been turned into shame, and I am forced, with no pleasure at all, to offer you my resignation from the Society.
It is of course, the global warming scam, with the (literally) trillions of dollars driving it, that has corrupted so many scientists, and has carried APS before it like a rogue wave. It is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life as a physicist. Anyone who has the faintest doubt that this is so should force himself to read the ClimateGate documents, which lay it bare. (Montford’s book organizes the facts very well.) I don’t believe that any real physicist, nay scientist, can read that stuff without revulsion. I would almost make that revulsion a definition of the word scientist.
So what has the APS, as an organization, done in the face of this challenge? It has accepted the corruption as the norm, and gone along with it. For example:
1. About a year ago a few of us sent an e-mail on the subject to a fraction of the membership. APS ignored the issues, but the then President immediately launched a hostile investigation of where we got the e-mail addresses. In its better days, APS used to encourage discussion of important issues, and indeed the Constitution cites that as its principal purpose. No more. Everything that has been done in the last year has been designed to silence debate.
2. The appallingly tendentious APS statement on Climate Change was apparently written in a hurry by a few people over lunch, and is certainly not representative of the talents of APS members as I have long known them. So a few of us petitioned the Council to reconsider it. One of the outstanding marks of (in)distinction in the Statement was the poison word incontrovertible, which describes few items in physics, certainly not this one.
In response APS appointed a secret committee that never met, never troubled to speak to any skeptics, yet endorsed the Statement in its entirety. (They did admit that the tone was a bit strong, but amazingly kept the poison word incontrovertible to describe the evidence, a position supported by no one.) In the end, the Council kept the original statement, word for word, but approved a far longer “explanatory” screed, admitting that there were uncertainties, but brushing them aside to give blanket approval to the original. The original Statement, which still stands as the APS position, also contains what I consider pompous and asinine advice to all world governments, as if the APS were master of the universe. It is not, and I am embarrassed that our leaders seem to think it is. This is not fun and games, these are serious matters involving vast fractions of our national substance, and the reputation of the Society as a scientific society is at stake.
3. In the interim the ClimateGate scandal broke into the news, and the machinations of the principal alarmists were revealed to the world. It was a fraud on a scale I have never seen, and I lack the words to describe its enormity. Effect on the APS position: none. None at all. This is not science; other forces are at work.
4. So a few of us tried to bring science into the act (that is, after all, the alleged and historic purpose of APS), and collected the necessary 200+ signatures to bring to the Council a proposal for a Topical Group on Climate Science, thinking that open discussion of the scientific issues, in the best tradition of physics, would be beneficial to all, and also a contribution to the nation. I might note that it was not easy to collect the signatures, since you denied us the use of the APS membership list. We conformed in every way with the requirements of the APS Constitution, and described in great detail what we had in mind—simply to bring the subject into the open.
5. To our amazement, Constitution be damned, you declined to accept our petition, but instead used your own control of the mailing list to run a poll on the members’ interest in a TG on Climate and the Environment. You did ask the members if they would sign a petition to form a TG on your yet-to-be-defined subject, but provided no petition, and got lots of affirmative responses. (If you had asked about sex you would have gotten more expressions of interest.) There was of course no such petition or proposal, and you have now dropped the Environment part, so the whole matter is moot. (Any lawyer will tell you that you cannot collect signatures on a vague petition, and then fill in whatever you like.) The entire purpose of this exercise was to avoid your constitutional responsibility to take our petition to the Council.
6. As of now you have formed still another secret and stacked committee to organize your own TG, simply ignoring our lawful petition.
APS management has gamed the problem from the beginning, to suppress serious conversation about the merits of the climate change claims. Do you wonder that I have lost confidence in the organization?
I do feel the need to add one note, and this is conjecture, since it is always risky to discuss other people’s motives. This scheming at APS HQ is so bizarre that there cannot be a simple explanation for it. Some have held that the physicists of today are not as smart as they used to be, but I don’t think that is an issue. I think it is the money, exactly what Eisenhower warned about a half-century ago. There are indeed trillions of dollars involved, to say nothing of the fame and glory (and frequent trips to exotic islands) that go with being a member of the club.
Your own Physics Department (of which you are chairman) would lose millions a year if the global warming bubble burst. When Penn State absolved Mike Mann of wrongdoing, and the University of East Anglia did the same for Phil Jones, they cannot have been unaware of the financial penalty for doing otherwise. As the old saying goes, you don’t have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing. Since I am no philosopher, I’m not going to explore at just which point enlightened self-interest crosses the line into corruption, but a careful reading of the ClimateGate releases makes it clear that this is not an academic question.
I want no part of it, so please accept my resignation. APS no longer represents me, but I hope we are still friends.
Hal
[Emphases mine]
“Harold Lewis is Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of California, Santa Barbara, former Chairman; Former member Defense Science Board, chmn of Technology panel; Chairman DSB study on Nuclear Winter; Former member Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards; Former member, President’s Nuclear Safety Oversight Committee; Chairman APS study on Nuclear Reactor Safety; Chairman Risk Assessment Review Group; Co-founder and former Chairman of JASON; Former member USAF Scientific Advisory Board; Served in US Navy in WW II; books: Technological Risk (about, surprise, technological risk) and Why Flip a Coin (about decision making).” (Source: James Delingpole article linked below)
[Ed. Good! The James Delingpole article (containing Dr. Lewis’ letter) at The London Telegraph is still there! So, here’s that 2010 link: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058265/us-physics-professor-global-warming-is-the-greatest-and-most-successful-pseudoscientific-fraud-i-have-seen-in-my-long-life/. And double-hooray! The letter appears on this later WUWT post: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/10/16/hal-lewis-my-resignation-from-the-american-physical-society/ .]
Janice,
In my world you have to ask yourself…. why would they all be in on a lie? I mean I get the odd person can be corrupt or on rare occasions the odd group, but all of them? And these not just any groups, they represent their nations voice (many of them).
So sayeth the church, so sayeth the flock. It is heresy in these circles to suggest that fossil fuel use isn’t causing catastrophic climate change.
If anyone within the church were to try and bite at the apple of knowledge, he or she would be excommunicated. Grant money doesn’t grow on trees, after all.
In a word, Simon:
MONEY.
Janice.
Do you personally know any climate scientists? I know one and I can tell you he is paid very averagely as are most scientists. I would think that most climate scientists go in because they have a passion not because they want to become wealthy people. I understand they need grants to fund work (some do), but that is no different to any other field.
So why the focus on the climate team? In my opinion it is because the work they do has concluded that we need to take drastic and yes costly action and a big chunk of people don’t like or want to hear that message, particularly people associated with or profiting from fossil fuels. So yes you are right, Money plays a big part here, but it is not the scientists being motivated by it.
I know one and I can tell you he is paid very averagely as are most scientists.
How much would he get if he published against the “consensus”? Those who do are pariahs. Much easier to go along.
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.
Cui bono.
Many researchers are not in an agreeance or pact about lying, it is much more subtle and self-directed than that.
In the environmental sciences (and some other branches), most of the time, if there is no problem, there is no money allocated to research it. Money “follows” and is allocated to problems in a perceived attempt to either understand or find a “cure”.
I am in the science industry and I saw the writing on the wall many years ago when there was an increase in the grants and research funding that was being offered up to research the “impacts” of climate change. The word impact of course was presented in the negative connotation.
The impacts were implicitly taken as already “proven” or highly likely in the way the grants were written.
So basically, if you wanted to maintain an ongoing income or get a grant, you had to focus on finding “problems” and more importantly “establishing” the problem as fundamental, whether real or imagined, as that was how the grants and research were structured.
There are very few people that will actively try and prove something wrong (i.e. no awg climate change issue), with the knowledge that proving so will cut off their future income stream and threaten their livelihood.
So if you are higher up the tree controlling the funding and you want to buy support from the academic masses for your narrative, you just need to pull the strings on the grants and research that gets funded and you will have no shortage of people willing to “filter” evidence one way or the other to achieve and outcome that will secure their future.
There is no need to directly force them to lie, or to even “lie”. Many researchers are not “lying” per say, just filtering the evidence they focus on and present in order to keep the income stream flowing. In this manner you can create a powerful positive feedback situation and remain at arm’s length.
Many, humans (some would say most), when pushed, will make moral compromises in how they live, in order to keep living, and the people “up the tree” understand this aspect of human nature very well.
Oh do catch up Simon for krysake. You come across as a 12 year old.
”Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science, consensus is irrelevant. What are relevant are reproducible results.”
Get it?
“What are relevant are reproducible results…”
What, and you think these highly respected organisations want to corrode their reputations without evidence. And you accuse me of thinking like a 12 year old?
I would say Climate science is the most scrutinised science on the planet at present. It is currently under intense focus from groups like well meaning amateurs who are continually told this is all BS, to highly sophisticated organisations that clearly don’t want to see their profits dented.
And your age old and rather simplistic “science is not consensus” argument really is getting rather tiresome. Of course just because they all agree doesn’t mean it is definitely real or true, but the chances of them being wrong, diminish as the consensus grows. But, maybe you are able to explain why so many of these high profile respected organisations are so sure climate change is real and a threat. Maybe you think they are simply wrong… all of them? Or, maybe you think they are all on the take? Or maybe you think space goblins infected their brains. Or, maybe you just say it because you have no other explanation for the warming we have seen in the last 100 years. Because that is the eternal problem for skeptics isn’t it… they just have no credible alternate explanation at this point in time. And with each jump in global temperature their howls become louder and their grip on the argument weaker. Now If you have an explanation for the warming I’m all ears?
Well, I don’t know about Mike, but as far as I can see the warming over the last century or so looks very much like 13th century, and the 2nd century BC, the 14th century BC, etc.
Interesting…. I’d be keen to see the references you have used to come to those conclusions?
What a load of drivel.
You can’t dispute what I say so you mock it. Well done that man. Well let’s hear it. What has caused the warming or are you the base level denier who says there has been no warming? Or maybe you are the level above that says there has been a little warming, but it’s allllllll natural?
Troll.
Orrr you say all the nicest things.
But why am I the troll? My opinions are probably closer to that of the creator of this site than yours.
The same is widely true of geoscience college professors. I have sat and listened to allegedly educated PhD atmospheric scientists and geoscientists presenting CAGW dogma using entirely canned slides and talking points from other people’s work. Disgusting. An “expert”should study and independently work out his/her own understanding of the state of the science and then present those views in his/her own words and illustrations.
Instead, they just cue up the canned slides and “push play.”
rather than seek out the facts and form a considered opinion.
I think that describes the vast majority of people.
She may be wrong on the science and the economics but those are not the most important aspects of a person. None of us is perfect or omniscient.
This girl has integrity. She believes that what she has struggled to excel at is bad for others and so she puts others first. This is a good person. Misguided, perhaps. But good.
It’s easy to give up what costs you nothing. It’s even easier to be a hypocrite but this is no celeb flying back over the Atlantic in 1st class t join a climate protest.
This story shows the best and worst of Britain’s future. The education is terrible. But the people are still of the best.
Another abused child. The people who have done this to her should have rubber hoses taken to their heads.
Pat,
Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I believe rubber hoses are best applied to the lower back (kidneys) or the bottom of the feet. A small sledge or maul is very effective on toes, too!
Don’t forget the lead for inside the hoses.🤕
Just let the Memphis cops loose on them.
UK police make better running (away) competition.
What they did to that man is beyond belief. I hope they throw the book at them. 30 years doesn’t seem long enough.
Up their nose with a rubber hose
Vinnie Barbarino
The teenager, whom the British press has dubbed the “Greta Thunberg of sport”
So… they implying she is short, chubby, possibly retarded and never finished school?
Wow – the British Press are MEAN!!!
But seriously, this girl is an utter no-body. The great unwashed do not care for athletics unless the Olympics are on. She is a junior attempting to compete in a junior comp.
Sorry sweetie, I know you are very good at your selected sport and congratulations for being allowed to compete against other women, but… it is not my selected sport.
Apathy.
Fifty years from now, if she hasn’t committed suicide to “save the planet” and if she has matured and learned critical thinking, she will regret missing out on so many opportunities to enjoy life with NO fear of the CO2 molecule or the HOAX of GlowBULL Warming.
More proof of kids being indoctrinated, rather than educated! SMH Fortunately, I’m old enough, I won’t have to suffer through the insanity these young, useful idiots, will create in adulthood.
Yep.
Propaganda works
This is what education does now. It’s outrageous
How did she get to Turin?
According to yesterday’s Times, she was disappointed with her run in Turin, fading to 4th after leading for most of the way. She thinks the fatigue was caused by the 20-hour journey to get to Turin.
Coach to Lille, in northern France, then by train to Paris, across Paris on a folding bike, and then another train to Turin. She took her family along – not very environmentally friendly, when they weren’t actually competing themselves
So, she was basically sitting down the whole way….. and blames “fatigue” ?
She really is a “victim”, isn’t she. !
She should have blamed climate change
Yes, her flight to Australia would simply devastate the strides we’ve made in advancing global climate change. 😏 😏 😏
Climate: The Universal Buck Pass.
She is staying home to follow Rishi’s advice/guidance – to go work in the Retail & Hospitality Sector’
Rishi was urging ‘Foreign students’ to do this.
Quite amazing creatures they are, these students, in how they can simultaneously:
Yet when folks actually volunteer to do those things and come floating ashore along the south coast of England – they are sent to Rwanda
what am I missing here
Sent to Rwanda??? Since when?
The lack of housing is just one thing you’re missing
What lack of housing? The birth rate in the UK is around 1.6, 2.1 being sustenance level for any population.
Yes we have a lot of illegal immigrants but they are all living in four star hotels.
The UK housing ‘crisis’ is simply another fictional fear crisis designed by the left (as usual) to compel governments to build more free housing for people living off the state.
“what lack of housing”
By Jove! How dreadfully ill-informed. Even the Waffen BBC acknowledges there is a problem.
Perhaps you can tell us why they have to put migrants in all the best hotels – before they jump to the top of the council housing lists, which many locals have been waiting on for years?
“it has been reported the Home Office asked owners of Camelot Castle Hotel in Tintagel, Cornwall, if they could rent rooms for migrants and refugees.
Owner John Mappin says he was offered a £1million deal for the £256-a-night rooms but turned officials down as he feared the place would be trashed.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/20065848/government-castle-put-up-illegal-immigrants/
And in not too distant Torbay…
“AN ENGLISH COUNCIL has been praised for refusing to take any Afghan refugees, because it wants to prioritise its own crisis situation for its own people. Torbay Council says the area already faces a housing crisis and so it cannot make room for Afghans in need of sanctuary.”
https://europerenaissance.com/2021/08/21/council-refuses-to-take-any-afghan-refugees-due-to-its-own-housing-crisis/
Still, fiat money is on borrowed time.
I explained why. Kindly read again.
There is no housing shortage, there is a COUNCIL HOUSE ‘shortage’.
Had we no council housing illegal immigrants would have to buy a house. Not such an attractive proposition to sail across the English Channel if they have to actually buy a house, is it?
When the BBC and politicians whine about housing shortages they don’t mean a ‘housing crisis’, they mean a ‘council housing crisis’.
Whilst you, much like the BBC, choose a single exception to prove a rule you find convenient i.e. a single hotel owner who refuses to rent his hotel out to migrants, there are hundreds which do.
You do the same with Torbay council, whilst most other councils toe the party line of discriminating against its own citizens by finding homes for migrants as soon as they step ashore.
‘If Australian greens could see their climate heroes up close, they would have more of an opportunity to notice they don’t walk on water, that they are human beings with human failings.’
Seriously??? Since when did greenies EVER see beyond their noses?
Hey, it’s hard work seeing beyond ones horse blinkers! Just ask Nick!
Many sets apparently have yellow lens, as a lot of eco-loons seem to believe that the sky is green as well!
Maybe she should have a word with Zion Lights.
This is the former Extinction Rebellion PR manager who was humiliated on UK TV by Andrew Neil. She has now left the organisation and is campaigning for Nuclear power. She recites instances of the XR Cult and it’s leader Roger Hallam, a former organic farmer who was so bad at his job his business went bust, but he blamed it on climate change.
Zion recites instances of the brainwashing sessions and Hallam’s excesses, like wanting to jet to exotic destinations to protest there about climate change, whilst enjoying the beach and hotels.
She is now a Labour Councillor in Exeter City Council with an estimated Net worth of between $1m – $5m according to some websites.
She is described on the Exeter City Council website as “Member Champion for Net Zero Exeter 2030”
So still grifting on the climate nonsense.
https://committees.exeter.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=6676
It’s a religion. Not surprising we’re starting to see acolytes who actually seem to want to live the life of carbonabnegation. The Dan Brown of the 2500s will find their stories amusing, if not somewhat hard to believe.
If she’s that good at running, why doesn’t she just run to Australia. And if anybody is worried about the ocean parts, we already have precedent that it’s possible to walk on water.
It’s running, not swimming.
The Flash taught me that if you run fast enough, you don’t have to swim.
She’d better take a private jet, as thousands of the climate warriors who attended Davos’ clownery do all years long.
Precious. I think she should stop competing and just stay home in here little basement and eat bugs.
That’s the WEF’s plan for all of us, save the Davos Elite.
Duh, whether she boards the commercial flight from London to Sydney or not will not make any difference to the emissions of that regularly scheduled flight! That flight is on a BIG jet, with gross weights in the range of 300 to 500 tonnes, so her measly 55 kg won’t make any difference to fuel burned on those regular flights.
We are headed for catastrophe alright, from the lack of critical thinking ability and the now not so common sense of young people!
Her parents need to tell her to stop being such a silly girl.
” British Sports Star Refuses to Fly to Australia Over Climate Concerns ”
Not a good excuse!
Instead of flying, she could go there swimming.
That’s a real blow to COP meetings with fleets of private jets. /sarc
We don’t need poison like this athlete coming to Australia. Let her reach retirement age and reflect on her lost opportunities because of her biased political views.
“I believe Aussie obsession with climate activism is likely made worse,”
Eric there is a distinct impression that Oz became a world center of climate alarmism, certainly on a per capita basis. It seems to me an inordinate proportion of climateering porn is pumped out of the universities and purposed institutions of Australia. I may be wrong.
Forget climate. It is absurd to fly half-way round the globe at 500 mph in order to run.
Yes. I feel dumb when I drive 10 miles to jog trails.
They did it for the PCR kit scam let them do it for the CO2 dementia!
They = who?
it = what?
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#1: The plane is going to go regardless of her being on it or not. Her being on it would make its per person “footprint” better.
#2: “The Climate” won’t notice or care.
#3: Her reasoning should, ultimately, lead to her earning a Darwin Award.
Being 16 and a dufus, she ought to hold off on going for the Award until at least 21.
It is just sad that the kid has been so indoctrinated with such nonsense.
Leaves room on the team for some confused male who thinks he is a she.
Depriving Australia of her awesome presence… That’ll show ’em!
She could sail there like they used to do.
She is in great company, Jackie Gleason and John Madden refused to fly also….
If she’s foolish enough to undermine her career with a protest as stupid as this one, she doesn’t deserve to be on the team in the first place. How many other athletes in how many other sports would ruin their futures for something they can’t affect in the first place? I hope she’s sworn off riding to domestic athletics events in anything except electric vehicles and avoids all foods that aren’t plant-based. If not, she’s just demonstrating her hypocrisy,
Maybe she is scared of flying or thinks she’s going to lose and was just using climate paranoia as a reason not to go. Let’s face it, lots of other people are using it for ulterior motives.
She should be applauded for having the decency to act in accordance with what she believes. If only more people did that.
Just as the train travelled to Turin with or without her, so will the flight to Australia… Indeed, by NOT occupying a seat that may remain unsold, she has added to all the other passengers carbon footprint. Especially her team mates. In which case, could it be seen as a selfish act rather than a selfless one? I am intrigued by this conundrum and I would be interested in other points of view.