Fauci on December 1, 2022 in New England Journal of Medicine: As I prepare to step down from my dual positions at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), where I have been a physician-scientist for 54 years and the director for 38 years, a bit of reflection is inevitable. … The emergence of new infections and the reemergence of old ones are largely the result of human interactions with and encroachment on nature. As human societies expand in a progressively interconnected world and the human–animal interface is perturbed, opportunities are created, often aided by climate changes, for unstable infectious agents to emerge, jump species, and in some cases adapt to spread among humans.”
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Marc Morano responds: “Fauci and public health establishment want to keep both climate and COVID fears humming along to push their so-called solutions, so what better way than to merge the two issues!? Worried about COVID-19, then support the UN Paris climate pact, the Green New Deal, carbon taxes, etc. or else you are a gramma killer!”
By: Marc Morano – Climate DepotDecember 12, 2022 3:51 PM
Climate Depot Special Report
New England Journal of Medicine – December 1, 2022
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2213814
It Ain’t Over Till It’s Over…but It’s Never Over — Emerging and Reemerging Infectious Diseases
List of authors. Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. – From the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD.
N Engl J Med 2022; 387:2009-2011
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMp2213814
Fauci Excerpts: As I prepare to step down from my dual positions at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), where I have been a physician-scientist for 54 years and the director for 38 years, a bit of reflection is inevitable.
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Today, there is no reason to believe that the threat of emerging infections will diminish, since their underlying causes are present and most likely increasing. The emergence of new infections and the reemergence of old ones are largely the result of human interactions with and encroachment on nature. As human societies expand in a progressively interconnected world and the human–animal interface is perturbed, opportunities are created, often aided by climate changes, for unstable infectious agents to emerge, jump species, and in some cases adapt to spread among humans.
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Related:
Fauci in a September 3, 2020 paper published in the biomedical journal Cell Press: “Living in greater harmony with nature will require changes in human behavior as well as other radical changes that may take decades to achieve: rebuilding the infrastructures of human existence…”
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Former NYT reporter Alex Berenson responds: “But, see, if #COVID-19 turns out to be a testing-driven lil-bit-worse-than-a-bad-flu year, what then? Maybe we WON’T need to redesign all of human existence because some 79-year-old bureaucrat wants us to?”
“Why does Dr. Anthony Fauci, a division-level bureaucrat whose day job includes the word ‘allergy,’ think his brief now includes redesigning all of human society? And how monstrous must his ego have become for him to be willing to say so publicly?” Berenson asked.
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2022: State Department official joins panel linking COVID origin to ‘human impact on ecosystems’
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“Climate change is creating a new age of infectious dangers.” Climate Change Could Spark Future Pandemics – “The research, published in Nature, uses modeling to map how climate change could shift the geographic ranges of 3,100 mammals species and the viruses they carry by 2070. … The findings suggest that climate change could “easily become the dominant [human] driver” of cross-species virus transmission by 2070, the authors say.”
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Marc Morano: “They want to keep both climate and COVID fears humming along to push their so-called solutions, so what better way than to merge the two issues!? Worried about COVID-19, then support the UN Paris climate pact, the Green New Deal, carbon taxes, etc. or else you are a gramma killer!”
Marc Morano comments: “The climate movement is now merging their focus on linking viruses to “climate change” and thus making fighting climate change a part of fighting deadly viruses. Global warming promoters know that they should never let a crisis go to waste. They are pouncing on any opportunity to inject climate change into the COVID-19 issue.
They want to keep both climate and COVID fears humming along to push their so-called solutions, so what better way than to merge the two issues!? Worried about COVID-19, then support the UN Paris climate pact, the Green New Deal, carbon taxes, etc., or else you are a gramma killer!
The activists will then attempt to piggyback efforts like the Green New Deal as a part of future virus-fighting strategies. Already, media reports are claiming more Green New Deal Style policies are needed because ‘efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions may not be enough to stave off the increased transmission of viruses between species.’ Doctors are now clinically diagnosing patients with ‘climate change” and there are calls from academics to add ‘climate change’ as a cause of death on death certificates. In short, climate change can no longer survive on its own, it needs to be linked with COVID fears to prop it up as a concern.
The climate establishment spent decades trying to scare us about overpopulation, global cooling, the amazon rainforest (allegedly disappearing), and finally, climate change and they utterly failed. A virus came along in 2020 and they realized that this cut across ideologies, cut across political affiliation and they were able to declare an emergency and suspend normal democracy. They were able to achieve their one-party state with an unelected bureaucracy.
Meanwhile, the data does not support this latest speculative computer model COVID/Climate scare story: See: H. Sterling Burnett’s analysis: Science Crushes Claimed Link Between COVID & Climate– ‘In reality, if a modestly warming Earth has any impact on viruses and pandemics, it is to make them less likely and less severe…Historically, we know that the Black Plague arose and ran rampant in Europe and elsewhere during the Little Ice Age.’
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Bill Gates: “It’s quite clear in this case, [Covid] came across through animals. And almost all our diseases, like HIV, crossed over from chimpanzees in Africa quite some time ago; Ebola came from bats, this also, with one step in between came across from bats.” – “So it’s going to keep happening, particularly with climate change where we’re invading a lot of habitats. And you want to catch it as soon as you can.”
US News & World Report: Climate Change Will Make Pandemics Like COVID More Likely: Report
April 28, 2022, at 8:36 a.m.
Excerpt: Planet Earth is growing hotter, forcing different animal species to migrate to new areas and interact with other unfamiliar creatures at an increasing rate. That phenomenon could have dire consequences to human health, a new study says, raising the odds for new viral illnesses such HIV (which originated in primates), as well as pandemics such as COVID-19, which many believe originated in a coronavirus that jumped from species such as bats or pangolins to people. Potential new contacts between different species are expected to essentially double over the next 50 years, increasing the risk that other viruses will jump from animal to animal and eventually into humans, researchers predict. Viruses will move to a new animal species at least 15,000 times by 2070 as a result of migration driven by climate change, according to projections published in the journal Nature.
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NPR: Climate change may have one more side effect — another pandemic –
Excerpt: NPR’s RASCOE: And you and your colleagues built a computer model to project how viral jumps between species might change in a warming world. What type of information did you use to build that model, and what did your results show?
CARLSON: So we’ve been running simulations on and off for about three years. We take huge climate models. We project where animals can go to track their habitats, and then we use machine learning to figure out what animals might be able to share viruses with each other. What we find is that everybody’s on the move. We found that most species are probably going to have at least one chance to pick up new viruses. And at a sort of global scale, this is really concerning news when it comes to human health because it means that species like bats that have coronaviruses, Ebola virus, all of these things we worry about, they’re probably going to need to share some of the same places that we already live. And they’re going to be sharing a ton of viruses in our backyard.
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By Ed Yong
Excerpt: For the world’s viruses, this is a time of unprecedented opportunity. An estimated 40,000 viruses lurk in the bodies of mammals, of which a quarter could conceivably infect humans. Most do not, because they have few chances to leap into our bodies. But those chances are growing. Earth’s changing climate is forcing animals to relocate to new habitats, in a bid to track their preferred environmental conditions. Species that have never coexisted will become neighbors, creating thousands of infectious meet-cutes in which viruses can spill over into unfamiliar hosts—and, eventually, into us. Many scientists have argued that climate change will make pandemics more likely, but a groundbreaking new analysis shows that this worrying future is already here, and will be difficult to address.
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Forbes: Climate Change Could Spark Future Pandemics, Study Finds
Global warming could fuel future pandemics by dramatically increasing the risk viruses will jump into humans from other animals, researchers warned Thursday, illuminating another hidden and far-reaching cost of the climate crisis.
As the world gets warmer, many animals will be forced to find new places to live, taking any parasites and pathogens they carry along for the ride, researchers wrote in Nature. The researchers examined how climate change could alter the geographic range of some 3,100 mammal species between now and 2070 and how this might affect the transmission of viruses between species.
Even under the most optimistic climate forecasts—less than 2°C warming—the researchers predict climate change will trigger at least 15,000 new instances of viruses crossing between species for the first time by 2070. The researchers said these “spillover” events will be predominantly driven by bats—which can travel large distances, are likely to carry pathogens capable of infecting humans and are widely believed to be the source of Covid-19—and concentrated in densely populated areas in Asia and Africa. While it’s not clear precisely how the new viruses will affect species involved, Dr. Gregory Albery, one of the study’s lead authors and a disease ecologist at Georgetown University, said it is “likely” many will “fuel the emergency of novel outbreaks in humans.” With human activity driving temperatures upwards, this process could already be well underway, the researchers warned, adding that efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions may not be enough to stave off the increased transmission of viruses between species.
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Climate change ‘already’ raising risk of virus spread between mammals –
Excerpt: Mammals forced to move to cooler climes amid global warming are “already” spreading their viruses further – with “undoubtable” impacts for human health, a new study says. The research, published in Nature, uses modelling to map how climate change could shift the geographic ranges of 3,100 mammals species and the viruses they carry by 2070. …
The findings suggest that climate change could “easily become the dominant [human] driver” of cross-species virus transmission by 2070, the authors say.
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Climate Change To Increase ‘Zoonotic Spillover’ — Yes, That’s Very Bad
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Dr. Aaron Bernstein, Director of Harvard Chan C-CHANGE: “We also need to take climate action to prevent the next pandemic.” … “Climate change alters how we relate to other species on Earth and that matters to our health and our risk for infections.” … “Many of the root causes of climate change also increase the risk of pandemics.”
The climate movement is now merging their focus on linking viruses to “climate change” and thus make fighting climate change a part of fighting deadly viruses.
The activists will then attempt to piggyback efforts like the Green New Deal as a part of future virus-fighting strategies.
Global warming promoters know that they should never let a crisis go to waste. They are pouncing on any opportunity to inject climate change into the COVID-19 issue including attempts to make sure that federal stimulus bills include going in the “right direction toward decarbonization.”
Rolling Stone mag: “How Climate Change Is Ushering in a New Pandemic Era”: The author writes, “[a] warming world is expanding the range of deadly diseases and risking an explosion of new zoonotic pathogens from the likes of bats, mosquitoes, and ticks.” The article is long on assertions, touching anecdotes, and personal stories but short on facts and scientific evidence.
Rebuttal:Science Crushes Claimed Link Between COVID & Climate– In reality, if a modestly warming Earth has any impact on viruses and pandemics, it is to make them less likely and less severe…Historically, we know that the Black Plague arose and ran rampant in Europe and elsewhere during the Little Ice Age.
H. Sterling Burnett: Climate alarmists and major media outlets are deceitfully exploiting the coronavirus pandemic to tell the public lies that climate change makes pandemics more likely and severe. In reality, the evidence is quite clear that warmer temperatures make pandemics and underlying outbreaks of viruses like the flu less frequent and severe. In a March 24 editorial in The Hill, Vinod Thomas, former direct-general of the Independent Evaluation Group at the World Bank Group, writes, “There is a link to pandemics, like COVID-19, and a warmer world….” Thomas’s claim follows many others in the media. For example, a recent Time magazine article states, “I have no evidence that climate change triggered this particular virus to jump from animals to humans at this particular time, or that a warmer planet has helped it spread. That said, it’s pretty clear that, broadly speaking, climate change is likely to lead to an uptick in future epidemics caused by viruses and other pathogens.” …
Numerous studies demonstrate that transmissible diseases like the flu and the coronavirus are far more prevalent and deadly during the late-fall, winter, and early spring, when the weather is cold and damp, rather than in the summer months when it is warm and dry. That is a reason the flu season runs from fall through early spring, and then peters out. And colds, while not unheard of, are less common in the summer as well.
Chapter 7 or the Non-governmental International Panel on Climate Change’s report of Climate Change Reconsidered: Biological Impacts details the results of dozens of peer reviewed studies and reports showing premature deaths from illness and disease are far more prevalent during colder seasons and colder climate eras rather than during warmer seasons and warmer climate eras.
In 2010, British Broadcasting Channel’s health correspondent Clare Murphy analyzed mortality statistics from the UK’s Office of National Statistics from 1950 through 2007 and found, “For every degree the temperature drops below 18C [64 degrees Fahrenheit], deaths in the UK go up by nearly 1.5 percent.”
U.S. Interior Department analyst Indur Goklany studied official U.S. mortality statistics and found similar results. According to official U.S. mortality statistics, an average of 7,200 Americans die each day during the months of December, January, February, and March, compared to 6,400 each day during the rest of the year.
In an article published in the Southern Medical Journal in 2004, W. R. Keatinge and G. C. Donaldson noted, “Cold-related deaths are far more numerous than heat-related deaths in the United States, Europe, and almost all countries outside the tropics, and almost all of them are due to common illnesses that are increased by cold.”
More recently, in a study published in the Lancet in 2015, researchers examined health data from 384 locations in 13 countries, accounting for more than 74 million deaths—a huge sample size from which to draw sound conclusions—and found cold weather, directly or indirectly, killed 1,700% more people than hot weather. No, that is not a typo – 1,700% more people die from cold temperatures than warm or hot temperatures.
Contrary to the fear-mongering assertions in The Hill and Time, the overwhelming scientific evidence shows it is cold, not heat, that kills. Therefore, a modestly warmer world, with shorter, less severe winters, should result in fewer premature deaths from disease, viruses, pandemics, hunger, and other natural causes.
2021: Epic Fail: Chuck Todd Tries to Bait Anthony Fauci on Climate Change
BBC: How much does human breathing contribute to climate change?
BBC Excerpt: In one day, the average person breathes out around 500 litres of the greenhouse gas CO2 – which amounts to around 1kg in mass. This doesn’t sound much until you take into account the fact that the world’s population is around 6.8 billion, collectively breathing out around 2500 million tonnes of the stuff each year – which is around 7 per cent of the annual CO2 tonnage churned out by the burning of fossil fuel around the world.
So, on the face of it, we humans are a significant contributor to global warming. But, in reality, the CO2 we’re breathing out is part of a natural cycle, by which our bodies convert carbohydrates from CO2-absorbing plants into energy, plus water and CO2. As such, we’re not adding any extra CO2.
When all else fails, use kids to advance your propaganda:
Media Push Unfounded Claim That ‘Climate Change’ Exacerbating Spread Of Diseases
Wouldn’t increasing population and increasing international air travel have more to do with it ?
Whistleblowers reveal what really happened. Just one.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/whistleblower-wuhan-lab-leak-covid-19-ecohealth-alliance
Yes. But not only internationsl travelling: travelling inside one’s country has the same effect. And internal transports have been improved enormously EVERYWHERE in the last decades. See for instance youtube documentaries about remote populations (in Siberia, China, Mongolia, Africa,…): people may live in wooden huts but they have lots of plastic buckets and other wares, all rather recent; they eat lots of packaged shortcakes and breakfast cereals of brands that can be founs in supermarkets: 30, 40 years ago frequent contacts with “city life” as those were not as frequent; now they are less isolated.
And because of Faucis gain of function research, mutilating billions of years of natural evolution to undermine mother natures highest aspiration and intention, human civilization
Okay and he just jumped the shark too, and that was not caused by climate change.
What does climate change have to do with the CCP line that COVID19 came from “imported frozen seafood”? Did climate change cause the sudden freezing?
Simple. The Climate Change(tm) led directly to the destruction of the Great Barrier Reef.
There are fish in the Great Barrier Reef (source – Finding Nemo) so the loss of all those fish clearly lead to the collapse of Traditional Fishing Grounds.
So seafood needed to be imported.
And they were imported from Covid Countries. (source – the CCP)
Science! (source – Greta)
Any more questions? 😀
Excellent research!
Love the references! Unassailable conclusions
Why we will never see the evidence for the origin of Covid, but we all know it was a lab leak.
The word you want is “suspect,” not “know.” There’s no proof that it was a lab leak, so you do not know it.
The same principle applies to climate change. Climate Chicken Littles incessantly insist that every storm, drought, heat wave, cold snap, fire, or disease is caused by “climate change,” even when the frequency and severity of the calamities in question have not worsened. They convince themselves that they “know” what they actually only suspect (and in most cases there’s not even a rational reason to suspect it). We’re right to criticize such irrationality, but we weaken our standing for doing so if we do the same thing.
If I may cite two of my favorite philosophers…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eDYVtPwWiM&t=43
“In my opinion, the most important words that anyone studying the climate can learn to say are ‘I don’t know.'” – Willis Eschenbach
A lab leak is a plausible explanation, but it isn’t the only one, and it hasn’t been proved. Pandemics also happen naturally. We knew that, sure as night follows day, something like this would eventually happen, naturally.
I did, anyhow. So did this guy:
The leaking of the Covid 19 virus from the Wuhan lab is a Viable Theory. Just to be fair here are several sources for this theory:
I have several apocryphal sayings that are relevant.
In other words, other theories relating to where the Covid virus comes from, need more scrutiny.
The evidence is in. Covid 19 virus leaked from the Wuhan lab. The theory has been proven. It is up to others to prove it is wrong.
Regards
Climate Heretic
Can someone please fix the links?
Regards
Climate Heretic
CH, the current WUWT comment system allows commenters to fix their own comments. After you post a comment, if you need to fix/change it, there’s a sometimes-hidden gear icon symbol ⚙️ near the lower-right corner, which appears if you hover your mouse cursor in the vicinity. It can be clicked to reveal an “Edit” link. But you need to make your corrections quickly, because you don’t get much time. (About 15 minutes?)
Instead of using the HTML <a…> syntax, to make hyperlinks you should select/highlight a snippet of text, and then click the link symbol (it looks like a percent sign without the slash). Then you can fill in the URL.
Alternately, you can click the {} (“source code”) symbol, and edit the HTML. There you can insert the <a…> syntax for links, but that’s very much the hard way, because the HTML is idiosyncratic and hard to read.
As for Covid-19, there are many “experts” who are certain about its origin — and who disagree with one another. There are, indeed, experts who are sure it was a lab leak. But here’s a recent report claiming zoonotic (natural) origin, and here’s a report insisting that it arose from the wildlife (“wet market”) trade.
The bottom line is that, even though many people are certain of the origin of Covid-19, none of them really know. There are several competing theories, and I doubt we’ll ever know for sure which is correct.
Thank you for your reply, regarding the links. I’m aware of the edit and links. Next time I will try and use the link.
As to the scientific papers or reports. There is only one theory that is correct. Fauci is a liar, WHO is a liar and the CCP is also a known liar.
The virus was genetically engineered
https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/15/latest_news/1600196698_232755.html
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3031254/genetic-evidence-covid-wuhan-lab-leak/
Which rules out zoonotic origin.
Regards
Climate Heretic
Thank you for your reply, regarding the links. I’m aware of the edit and links. Next time I will try and use the link.
As to the scientific papers or reports. There is only one theory that is correct. Fauci is a liar, WHO is a liar and the CCP is also a known liar.
The virus was genetically engineered
https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/15/latest_news/1600196698_232755.html
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3031254/genetic-evidence-covid-wuhan-lab-leak/
Which rules out zoonotic origin.
In additon Peter Daszak is also compromised individual. Who stands by the zoonotic theory. I will take that report with heavy scepticism.
Regards
Climate Heretic
CH, you express certainty, yet both of the sources you cited expressed only suspicion.
Here’s an excerpt from the first one (the Spanish sports newspaper, Diario AS):
The other one (the article in The Sun) is entitled:
The article goes on to cite Dr Steven Quay and Prof. Richard Muller (yes, it is, indeed, that Richard Muller!) who say, “the science suggests a lab leak”. (I have no idea when Physicist Richard Muller became a expert in virology!)
Neither of your sources claim definite proof that the virus was a lab leak.
CH:
Matt Ridley’s book “Viral” is a good start examining the evidence of lab vs spillover from animals.
Also Nicholas Wade’s articles:
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
and an Aug 2021 followup by Wade at the Bulletin:
https://thebulletin.org/2021/08/how-covid-19s-origins-were-obscured-by-the-east-and-the-west/
Finally, if you look at China’s behavior after the outbreak [regarding Covid-19 origins] it just screams “cover-up!”.As to whether we will ever prove it, I remain skeptical.
Probably more likely to know the real story behind the JFK assassination.
The butler did it.
Agent George Hickey fired the last shot?
Regards
Climate Heretic
If I ran a world health organization, and thought a zoonotic illness had just killed 6,000,000 people, then I would be looking for the infected population of animals so that I could eliminate that virus pool.
Has anyone heard of any such large scale efforts?
Either these organizations are run by idiots, or they don’t even believe their own press releases. (“C” – both, could also be a correct answer.)
He’s just an old man getting dotty!
Just laugh at him. Not worth getting worked up about, for heaven’s sake
Not just any old man, though. He was involved in the indirect funding of gain of function research. Wet market origin is a pathetic explanation. More likely source is Bondian super-villains/mad scientists.
Also ‘linking’ with what robaustin says, he is not ‘just’ anything in the same way that BoJo or Brandon are ‘just’ demented clowns/puppets.
Because what he is saying here represents the thinkings and thus subsequent actions of the ruling bureaucracy/Government.
And it is soooooo massivly wrong on just one simple and incredibly basic thing: The Hippocratic Oath = something that Fauci, him very self, should have sworn allegiance to and be acting in accordance with.
What he’s coming out with here is in direct contravention as, Hippocrates (or certainly some notable doctor) asserted that:
“95% of all disease/disorder is a result of poor nutrition”
So all that verbal diarrhoea about x thousands of virus is exactly that, copious, voluminous and free flowing shyte.
If our immune systems were being given and had the resources they need, viruses could number in the trillions (they certainly already do, how could they not) but our immune system would recognise them as strangers and throw them out.
It only really recognises strangers as ‘friend or foe’ and so, once it knows who it’s friends are, everything else no matter how many, become foes.
That Fauci, someone set up by Government as Chief Doctor and spokesman for all doctors doesn’t know that and is so blindly and obediently telling The World that he deosn’t is a perfect exposition of just how wrong everything has become. and how much shit we’re really in.
Under the guidance of this sort/level of stupidity there’s nothing else can happen but for us to extinguish ourselves.
The stupid burns, hurts and kills – the concentration of power, over so many people, in so few hands is insanely and unimaginably dangerous.
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We do see the similarity of Fauci’s words to those of most all Climate Scientists – they are drunk on their own power.
To paraphrase another “dotty old man” (Dementia Joe):
Three words: Prosecute Fauci!
like Brandon an old nasty man with POWER
NOT a good thing
I’ll laugh at him only he gets his due (eg. jail; humiliation due to truth coming thru; someone kidnaps him and cuts off his fingers one at a time, trying to get him to be honest; or any similar circumstance).
Until then, I’ll just wait to pee on his grave.
How nice it must be to establish an incapacity defense while taking a victory lap, for what should be considered a crime against humanity, criminal negligence, and fraud.
From the NIH (https://history.nih.gov/display/history/Nuremberg%2BCode), first article of the Nuremberg code:
Visit the site linked to see a treatment of the history of the code, but it was composed to counter the “we did it to protect the public” defense at trial by NAZI war criminal “doctors” accused of medical torture of victims in prison camps.
My pet model:Climate change causes elderly bureaucrat to outsource gain of function research to dodgy Chinese lab.
My favourite graph shows CO2 on the x-axis our so-called leaders with dementia on the y-axis
It’s a hockey stick
A hockey stick with its handle to the right and upwards.
“Climate Change” belief… certainly seems to be a disease of the mind !!
Seriously..!
Why does he have to be so BLATANT with his nonsense propaganda !
Its worse than a Mills and Boon tragedy !
Deport Fraudci to Wuhan. It was over 3 years ago that search engines revealed searches for symptoms of an illness around Wuhan….it was the virus…..call it Wuhan Virus….or call it Fraudci Virus. Climate is always changing….climate changes in the past have been much more severe than today – got that Fraudci?
Last I checked, human viruses required a host with an internal temperature of 98.6F or there about to replicate. I don’t think climate change has elevated the internal temperature of humans.
The rampant ignorance and manipulation is terrifying. Those people are far more frightening than anything they try to scare us with. I did find “What we find is that everybody’s on the move” rather amusing though. I wonder how so many of us ended up living outside Africa, if this ‘on the move’ thing is a new fear. I wonder why “Trade Winds” are so called, or the Silk Road. And then there are birds and butterflies and whales with long migrations. Fact is, all of evolution has always involved movement. It has to.
Some migrations began with Gondwana’s breakup and movement of the parts.
true BUT
moving was slower and diseases tended to be halted by long delays and isolation via boats etc for most sorts anyway. faster travel =faster disease risks
For perspective…
● Covid-19 (at 414 ppmv CO2) has killed about 0.1% of the world’s population,
● The Great Chinese Famine (at 317 ppmv CO2) killed about 1% of the world’s population.
● WWII (at 310 ppmv CO2) killed 2.7% of the world’s population.
● The catastrophic 1918 flu pandemic (at 303 ppmv CO2) killed about 2% of the world’s population.
● But the global drought and famine of 1876-78 (at 289 ppmv CO2) killed about 3.7% of the world’s population, though they had only 1/6 as many mouths to feed as we have today.
If it weren’t for the benefits of higher CO2 levels (CO2 fertilization and improved drought resilience for crops), the world could not support its current eight billion humans at current levels of agricultural intensity. It is generally believed that famines accelerate the spread of diseases. By alleviating hunger, CO2 emissions thus presumably reduce the spread of diseases.
The only way way in which CO2 emissions and resulting climate change increase the risk of virus transmission from animals to humans is by increasing the number of infectible humans, who haven’t died from starvation.
Agree EXCEPT regarding “resulting climate change,” which is nothing but hypothetical bullshit.
AiNS, you’ve already agreed that, “if we increased atmospheric CO2 and nothing else changes… there would be a modest increase in the average temperature.” That means CO2 changes climate. So what are you complaining about?
Would you have preferred for me to have written, “CO2 emissions their effects” instead of “CO2 emissions and resulting climate change”? (I’d be fine with that.)
In developed countries with long life-expectancy Covid deaths are mostly in the frail and very elderly.
Global Covid death rates correlated with standard of living, even in Africa: “High-income or upper-middle-income countries and those in the South African Development Community have around double the mortality rates in lower-income and lower-middle-income countries in other economic regions of Africa … the number of deaths was driven by biological and physical factors, primarily co-morbidities such as hypertension, diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, HIV and obesity” (WHO).
Therefore paradoxically to reduce the death rate from Covid-type diseases living standards in developed and developing countries need to be reduced by limiting access to cheap reliable energy from burning fossil fuels and lower crop yields by reducing the CO2 atmospheric concentration.
I wonder why they don’t put that argument? 🤔
Crikey Chris, don’t give them any more ideas, They’re already full on crazy with policy notionally designed to ‘reduce’ Covid, an unimportant and impossible thing to do by the way.
I can see their latest banner carried forward by the ‘believers’
‘Reduce wealth reduce Covid’
I would have had an extra aunt and an extra uncle to know except they died as babies about 120 years ago — I think from Diphtheria or some similar thing. Not uncommon, I’ve read.
So they’re linking what they say is man-made global warming with a man-made virus?
I’m sure that makes sense to the “experts” that want to keep the fear hyped up.
That is complete nonsense. There is no proof the disease is a result of climate change. It was likely the result of irresponsible and careless hygiene procedures by those handling seafood at that wet market. We’ll probably look back in history knowing that the lockdowns were a huge overreaction; all we had to do was wear masks and we would have been fine. The vast majority of those who catch the disease end up just fine, still sadly a lot of people lost their lives. This was a historic period of time; it was strange going to school and being told to stay away from each other. I intend on keeping the 2020-2021 yearbook for the rest of life.
There’s no proof climate change is a result of man-made CO2
That may not be as completely a naive statement as it appears to most of us at first glance. If you consider the bat lady from the nearby Fauci lab as the one handling the seafood carelessly.
One thing’s for sure, the wet market natural source claim was always patent nonsense.
And take the jabs. You definitely won’t ‘die suddenly’. 🤣
DIED SUDDENLY the documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q81Ee5a38mQ
Scary stuff.
The “encroachment” on nature is due to rogue research institutions playing the sorcerer’s apprentice with deadly viruses, thanks to people like Fauci. Gain of function research on human pathogens should be stopped immediately. Fauci + Gates & Co. are already simulating a pandemic with an even deadlier virus than Covid that’s particularly deadly for children. Do they have another pandemic ready for delivery in the fridge ? This is science dedicated to evil purposes and should be severely punished.
Yes. There is a lab in Boston that has recently reported their “aren’t we clever” results.
They took the recent more infectious but less harmful Covid strain and back-hybridised it with the original less infectious but more lethal original strain. They then tested it in humanised-mice bearing the same receptor in their lungs as humans.
Et voila…from a strain that killed no mice they produced a strain that kills 80% of the humanised mice.
“Aren’t we clever”. No. You are the most irresponsible people on the planet.
Were there even the slightest lingering doubt as to this mans contempt for his ‘fellow’ man, this put’s the tin lid on it.
If animals are moving from one area to another because of climate change, wouldn’t the animals in the former also be moving to a different area? And therefore not interact with new and different species.
The People’s Republic of New England Journal
What AIDS, Ebola, SARS, MERS, and COVID-19 have taught us:
-Don’t eat monkeys.
-Don’t eat bats.
-Stay away from monkeys and bats
-Don’t collect bat viruses and modify them to be contagious to humans.
Do this and the chances of a deadly pandemic decrease dramatically.
‘Dr.’ Science, who is neither a doctor nor a scientist, finally outs himself. He is simply a consummate bureaucrat, great at running hordes of ineffective mindless drones, but totally incompetent in medicine and science. He doesn’t want to inform us; he wants to control us (US). He’s simply proclaiming expertise in another field he knows nothing about.
Goodbye ‘Dr’. Enjoy your retirement dollars.
““Why does Dr. Anthony Fauci, a division-level bureaucrat whose day job includes the word ‘allergy,’ think his brief now includes redesigning all of human society? And how monstrous must his ego have become for him to be willing to say so publicly?” Berenson asked. “
Because when you think you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Especially when your career and your income depend on it.
From the article: “BBC Excerpt: In one day, the average person breathes out around 500 litres of the greenhouse gas CO2 – which amounts to around 1kg in mass. This doesn’t sound much until you take into account the fact that the world’s population is around 6.8 billion, collectively breathing out around 2500 million tonnes of the stuff each year – which is around 7 per cent of the annual CO2 tonnage churned out by the burning of fossil fuel around the world.
So, on the face of it, we humans are a significant contributor to global warming.”
No. There’s no evidence CO2 is causing measureable global warming, which means there is no evidence CO2 breathed out by humans is causing measureable global warming.
The BBC is assuming too much. As usual.
Well, “measurable” is slippery.
We know from the physics that raising CO2 concentration from about 280 ppmv to about 420 ppmv must have a modest warming effect. It is 58% of a “doubling” of CO2. A doubling of CO2 would contribute a TOA “radiative forcing” of roughly 3 W/m².
58% of that is about 1.75 W/m². That’s comparable in effect to a 0.5% increase in solar output.
That’s not much. It surely must help make the Earth’s surface a little bit warmer, but measuring it, and disentangling that effect from the many other factors which also affect surface temperatures, is challenging, to put it mildly.
Still, the claim that CO2 causes warming is not where the climate alarmists go wrong. That part is true.
Their error is with their claim that the warming is harmful, or even a “crisis” or “emergency.” That’s nonsense.
The warming from human GHG emissions is modest and benign. The reason scientists call the periods of warmest climate “climate optimums” is that they are objectively better than cold periods.
What’s more, it is settled science that higher CO2 levels are beneficial, rather than harmful, both for agriculture and for natural ecosystems.
The major harms from CO2 emissions are all merely hypothetical (& mostly implausible). The benefits are real, measured & very large.
“We know from the physics that raising CO2 concentration from about 280 ppmv to about 420 ppmv must have a modest warming effect.”
How modest is the question. And noone knows that answer. Yet our politicians forge ahead with destructive CO2 reduction policies based on pure speculation.
No, we “know” no such thing.
What we “know” is that IF we increased atmospheric CO2 AND NOTHING ELSE CHANGES that IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES there would be a modest increase in the “average” temperature.
But since the foundational assumption “all other things held equal” has never existed, does not exist today, and will never exist in the future, the SUPPOSED “effect” of CO2 on temperature is just hypothetical bullshit.
OBSERVATIONS (the Earth’s climate record) do NOT show any “CO2 drives temperature” relationship. I’ll go with observations.
Tom, I agree.
“No such thing,” AiNS? Did you read what I wrote?
I wrote, “raising CO2 concentration… must have a modest warming effect.”
You wrote, “if we increased atmospheric CO2 and nothing else changes… there would be a modest increase in the average temperature.”
Those two statements are identical in meaning.
The fact that raising the CO2 level has a modest warming effect does not guarantee that temperatures will increase when the CO2 level is raised, nor does it guarantee that temperatures won’t increase if the CO2 level is not raised, because many things other than CO2 also affect temperatures.
As it happens, temperature measurements do show a slight warming trend coincident with rising CO2 levels, but attribution is challenging. This was my attempt at it:
https://sealevel.info/sensitivity.html
Science tells us to get vaccinated, boosted, boosted again – why? Joe Biden and Dr. Biden both got sick after taking all recommended vaccines. Now all people who already got COVID should be vaccinated again. God, make me a chief accountant of Pfizer.
AhHa!……But they weren’t as sick as they would have been without the clotshots.
So the refrain goes……..
OK, it’s now official: Jane Fonda has been awarded the Dumbest Person on the Planet Award! The competition was intense but she prevailed and took first place.
He’s the new Dr. Joyce Brothers, everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
I too am an infectious disease expert. I have practiced as a specialist infectious disease physician for 30 years and I teach about medicine and science practice. I am appalled that Fauci has misled us through the CoVID epidemic and continues to mislead us with his musings about climate change. I have watched the evidence and discussions about climate change for twenty years. It is simply a model or hypothesis about human impact on climate which, when tested against reality, has failed in almost every prediction. In science when that happens you are supposed to discard or revise your theory. Same with all the pronouncements about CoVID. But if you are Fauci or any of the other propagandists for CoVIID policy and global warming/climate change you simply repeat your lies over and over again and refuse to debate the evidence.
The truth is that human society has become less and less susceptible to infectious morbidity and mortality continuously since the beginning of industrialization just as we have dropped our susceptibility to extreme weather events by 98% in a hundred years. Nothing bad is happening to our weather/climate and no climate model has shown any useful skill in predicting our further climate. We have real problems to solve and real opportunities for human flourishing and advancement we should be attending to. This fetish for imaginary end-of-times religious cataclysms has to stop before our own foolish submission to the god of fear brings us down faster than any natural disaster.
Very well expressed.
The climate scam is the excuse to introduce any manner of things the global public wouldn’t otherwise vote for.
The EU has just announced the worlds cross border carbon taxation scheme, to tax goods not conforming to their idea of climate excess.
Covid policies like lockdowns for climate purposes are now to be introduced to at least 2 cities in the UK dividing them into zones one must have permission to drive through or risk large fines. Travel and time spent outside the zones is similarly restricted.
There is no doubt these initiatives are being jealously coveted by authoritarian town planning bureaucrats countrywide.
” … I have been a physician-scientist for 54 years and the director for 38 years ( … ) The emergence of new infections and the reemergence of old ones are largely the result of human interactions with and encroachment on nature. … “
Who writes this is either ignorant or addicted to lying!
did monkey pox come about because of an ‘encroachment on nature’?
He’s way behind on recognizing the decline in science and the advanced state of advocacy science in climate “studies”.
As Dr. Anthony Fauci leaves public service, he fears health misinformation – ABC News (go.com)
The way to prevent further pandemics is eliminating its cause: the WHO.
The WHO is the creator of this POLITICAL, anti-scientific concept; and it is the CURATOR of its existence: only it has the POWER to declare that there is a pandemic.
So, as in all pathologies, we must not try to fight them by eliminating the symptoms: we must search the cause and eliminate it. Pandemics is a concept with NO STANDING in scientific epidemiology; yes! just check the definition: do microbes know enough geography to ascertain where are the limits of COUNTRIES? And how CONTINENTS are distributed at the surface of the Earth? Thus, the cause of pandemics is the WHO, not nature, not interectaion of humans with nature (are humans external to nature?), nor any other magical, superstitious such theory.
The WHO changed the definition of “pandemics” to stay in business forever.
No STEM graduate goes to work for the government unless they are incompetent and incapable performing in their field of education. Fauci has been working for the government for 50 years and is little more than clergy preaching the rulers mandates, which is the reason the government hires these people because they know they won’t get any argument.
It is quite clear the Covid-19 virus “originated” in bats… and was modified in the lab in Wuhan.
Someone needs a diversion.
Looking at the serious diseases of the past, many came from animals (ebola, monkeypox) or were spread by animals (plague, malaria). Covid started as a coronavirus in a bat population but had a little lab help along the way. Some diseases like typhoid are caused by lack of sanitation and sewage treatment. The western world has shown that the best way to fix typhoid and the other water-borne diseases is to have affordable energy so people have clean water and sewage treatment. The solution to most disease is a stronger economy. Strong economies developed vaccines and treatments for almost all the killers of the past generations. Have you met someone who had diphtheria, polio, the plague, or small pox? Even tetanus and rabies are no longer a threat, thanks to countries that have enough money to develop treatments. It goes without saying but I will say it anyway that the CAGW crowd propose policies that will make all countries poorer.
All true points and should be obvious to our politicians, but they are more in the mode of oblivious.
How many of these animal diseases were spread by vaccination programs?
(I read that bad hygiene in Africa during mass vaccination probably promoted the spread of HIV.)