It’s all ‘Blood and Gore’ until somebody loses a fortune

Essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Dr. Willie Soon; Authors David Blood and Al Gore, writing in the WSJ as guests, are astonished some companies and politicians are resisting their push for climate and sustainable development disclosures. But there is a hidden catch in their push.

ESG Investing Is Consistent With Fiduciary Duty

It’s not an end in itself. It’s simply an analytical tool that investors would be smart to make use of.

By Al Gore and David Blood
Nov. 8, 2022 630 pm ET

No matter your investment strategy, timely access to accurate and comprehensive information is critical. Transparency enables investors to make informed decisions with a greater understanding of the risks and opportunities facing a company. Yet incredibly, some American politicians are now trying to pass laws to prevent investors from taking highly relevant information into account.

Why? Is the information they seek to ban inconvenient?

Consider two examples. If a company is at risk of having significant liabilities for its past practice of dumping toxic chemicals into a river, don’t investors need to know that? Or how about if a company is building gas-fired power plants or new oil pipelines that, as governments tighten their climate targets, may have to be shut down decades before their projected useful lifetimes expire. Isn’t that relevant information?

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/sustainable-investing-is-consistent-with-fiduciary-duty-esg-capitalism-emissions-co2-business-costs-growth-tool-market-value-rules-11667879249

What is that catch I mentioned? The problem is Al Gore’s push is political. Those climate targets haven’t been tightened yet, and might never be tightened – but requiring companies to include ESG considerations in their financial decisions would force them to behave as if that tightening of climate regulations had already occurred.

There is nothing inevitable about the changes Al Gore claims will occur in the future.

Worse, pressure for companies to consider climate goals could actually put corporate finances in jeopardy. For example, back in June, Green Party German Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck announced Germany would be restarting their coal plants, due to their desperate energy shortages – caused by forcing companies to behave as if the green energy revolution was inevitable.

The same thing could happen to the USA, if Al Gore and his friends get their way.

I have no problem with companies publishing climate information voluntarily, or inviting an audit from Santa Claus and the tooth fairy if they think that will improve their business prospects. But financial disclosures must remain focussed on the here and now, not on Al Gore’s fantasies about what might happen in the future – otherwise the US national economy could end up like train wreck Europe.

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Ron Long
November 10, 2022 2:11 am

Good posting, Eric, h/t Willie Soon. The first time I was CEO of publicly traded stock company I was sent a review of the relevant laws to read. This can be summarized as “maximize shareholder wealth while not breaking any laws”. The ESG idea was extorsion, not science and not good business conduct. We should remember, extorsion often pays off for one side.

Bill Toland
Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 2:58 am

Unfortunately, some fund managers think that it is their job to “save the planet” and are making very poor investment choices as a result. The sole function of investment managers is to maximise returns for their investors. Any fund manager who doesn’t work to do that is definitely breaching their fiduciary duty to their investors.

Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 5:22 am

According to Merriam Webster:

extorsion

outward rotation (as of a body part) about an axis or fixed point”

ESG idea was extorsion“?

What is rotating? And what fixed point is it rotating around?

Reply to  ATheoK
November 10, 2022 5:36 am

Adam Smith is spinning in his grave as authoritarians try to take control of the world economy and run it into the ground!

Paul C
Reply to  ATheoK
November 10, 2022 6:44 am

A diversion which adds nothing to the discussion – “extorsion” will be understood to mean “extortion” by English speakers, and will not be noticed as an incorrect English spelling by speakers of Romanic languages where it would be a correct translation of the word. Trivial spelling mistakes on an internet forum used by an international audience including many non-native English speakers are to be expected, and only a pedant would raise it as an issue.

Ron Long
Reply to  ATheoK
November 10, 2022 7:16 am

My bad, you’re right. You’re also a jackwagon.

Neil Lock
Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 9:37 am

Ron Long, I had to look up the word “jackwagon” because I’m from the east side of the pond. ATheoK is a valued commenter here (at least, I value him). And you were the one that made the spelling error in the first place. “My bad” is not a sufficient apology to him. I am becoming concerned that the recent restriction on who may comment at WUWT may have actually had negative effects on politeness on this site.

Ron Long
Reply to  Neil Lock
November 10, 2022 12:28 pm

Neil Lock, if you were concerned about politeness you would not agree with ATheoK.

MarkW
Reply to  Neil Lock
November 10, 2022 2:57 pm

“My bad” is not an apology. It’s an acknowledgement that he made a spelling error.
Making a big fuss over a minor spelling error, that confused nobody, is not exactly polite behavior.

Graham
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2022 11:04 am

A great ado about nothing .

Reply to  Neil Lock
November 10, 2022 11:03 pm

All this fuss over a typo…

November 10, 2022 4:28 am

Can anyone find wind data supporting a “hurricane” strength Nicole (of 74 or more mph)?

Reply to  John Shewchuk
November 10, 2022 5:23 am

No.

A powerful storm, but disorganized before landfall.

Reply to  ATheoK
November 10, 2022 5:29 am

Powerful yes, and very large in size (thanks to a large and strong anticyclone to the north), but still no one can identify winds supporting “hurricane” strength.

Hartley
Reply to  John Shewchuk
November 10, 2022 5:43 am

But, but but… it has NAME!

Reply to  Hartley
November 10, 2022 5:52 am

Maybe a better name would be Hurricane Agenda, unless of course someone can actually find DATA to verify the claim.

Paul C
Reply to  Hartley
November 10, 2022 6:52 am

Over in the UK, the farcical Met Office has been naming “storms” for a number of years, as we do not get the hurricanes they appear to desire. They wouldn’t use so many letters if they named heatwaves instead.

auto
Reply to  Paul C
November 10, 2022 7:43 am

Well, Paul, here in South London, inside the M25,we had Dark Cloud Kathleen this lunchtime, followed by Gust Norman-Elwyn, which reached 28 mph. For several seconds.

Ain’t life grand?

Auto

MarkW
Reply to  Paul C
November 10, 2022 8:10 am

It’s only been in the last decade or so that they started naming tropical storms.

Reply to  MarkW
November 10, 2022 8:32 am

Now they are naming winter cold fronts here in the U.S.! Probably thanks largely to the Weather Porn Channel.

Mr.
Reply to  MarkW
November 10, 2022 10:09 am

And soon – ensuring the storms are give correct pronouns –
they / them / he / him / she / her / to-be-advised.

MarkW
Reply to  Mr.
November 10, 2022 3:00 pm

I’m really concerned about anyone who believes they can determine the sexual orientation of clouds.

Ex-KaliforniaKook
Reply to  MarkW
November 14, 2022 1:11 pm

It’s easier to determine sexual orientation if you’re young… or perverted.

Reply to  Hartley
November 10, 2022 8:29 am

I saw it named as a “sub-tropical storm” – I thought we didn’t name until at least tropical storm?

Are they changing the naming conventions so they can claim “there are more named storms than ever”?

Reply to  Tony_G
November 10, 2022 9:33 am

Correct. They changing the rules … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzAQ6CIPqDI

John Hultquist
Reply to  Tony_G
November 10, 2022 7:17 pm

Between Cuba and Florida, the Tropic of Cancer (23° 27′ N) is about 22 miles north of Havanna. Anything north of this line is considered less than tropical, or subtropical. Nicole began at about 27.7°N (as far as I can tell), so it was never a “tropical” storm.

Reply to  John Shewchuk
November 10, 2022 9:13 am

I’ll say this again. The wind strength given in advisories are based on measurements made by aircraft over the water. Once the winds begin to blow onshore, friction begins to reduce the wind speed. Rarely do on land stations measure winds equal to what the winds were blowing over the ocean. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s physics.

Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 10, 2022 9:27 am

Ok then, please identify the wind data showing hurricane force wind? Where is that measurement you speak of? I did not limit my request to shoreline data, plus I am very familiar with Recce dropsonde data since I write programs to analyze that data (www.raob.com). So I’ll say this again … where is the data? Without hurricane data, there is no hurricane.

Reply to  John Shewchuk
November 10, 2022 12:47 pm

There are several Air Force Hurricane Hunter eye fix reports with winds above hurricane force. Here is a link to just one, but you can look at reports before and after this too
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/recon/2022/REPNT2/REPNT2-KBIX.202211100227.txt

MAX FL WIND 80 KT 044 / 24 NM 00:06:00Z



Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 10, 2022 2:26 pm

Thanks for the info. Knowledge of FL Wind is good, but it’s not surface. The “H” and “L” line items are Max Surface Winds on “inbound” and “outbound” legs. The line item “H. 55kt” converts to 63 mph surface wind.

Reply to  John Shewchuk
November 10, 2022 1:13 pm

I found a table of recco data that summarizes the highest SFMR (surface) winds for flights into Nicole.Wind over 64 kt is hurricane-force.

NicoleMaxWinds.jpg
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 10, 2022 4:00 pm

Thanks for that table of wind data. That SFMR data is radar derived and has been shown to be calibrated on the high side, but in this case the winds are high enough to call Nicole a Cat 1. Maybe someone will later find a conventional surface based wind obs for more confirmation.

MarkW
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 10, 2022 3:02 pm

Don’t they use satellites to estimate wind speeds (from the movement of cloud tops) when the storms are too far out for the storm chasers?

Reply to  MarkW
November 10, 2022 4:02 pm

You can’t see surface layer clouds under the thick hurricane canopy, which is where the max winds are found — near the eyewall.

John Hultquist
Reply to  John Shewchuk
November 10, 2022 7:04 pm

I am not going to try to find the techniques the weather services use to determine wind speed, but I think it involves measurements from above as the disturbance moves over the ocean surface. These methods continue at and after the storm moves on to land. If they switch from a method that works over an un-instrumented ocean to instruments on land a few feet above the surface, there would be a discontinuity to deal with. You should investigate this if you believe it important and believe it to be inappropriate.
This issue is similar to the concept of “climate normals.” People reading about AGW and similar topics should know the numbers do not express climate nor normality. The concept is defined and used such that everyone should understand what is going on.
Neither of these things should cause aggravation.
In tennis, love is a word that represents a score of zero. This sounds silly, but somehow the game goes on.

Scissor
November 10, 2022 4:41 am

To analogize, Gore’s mouth is like a sewer that leaks, far too often.

Editor
Reply to  Scissor
November 10, 2022 4:57 am

Scissor, it continues to amaze me how failed politicians like Albert Arnold Gore can continue to remain in some peoples’ limelight even decades after they failed…only to fail and fail again.

Regards,
Bob

Ron Long
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
November 10, 2022 5:10 am

Right on, Scissor and Bob, and remember his ex-wife referred to him as the “Sex Poodle”. What the hell is that?

Editor
Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 5:16 am

Thanks, Ron. That made me laugh. WOOF!

Regards,
Bob

Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 5:25 am

ex-wife referred to him as the “Sex Poodle”. What the hell is that?”

I, for one, really don’t want to know!
Let it be their secret.

Mr.
Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 10:11 am

Who knows, but I hate to think where the batteries go.

Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 10:32 am

Hmmmm, I thought that was John “Puny Pickle” Kerry.

Kerry Poodle.jpg
Dave Fair
Reply to  Ron Long
November 10, 2022 11:10 am

Maybe he had a habit of humping everybody’s leg. How about pissing on everybody’s leg and saying it was a hurricane.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Dave Fair
November 10, 2022 11:12 am

Crap! Using Word Press to assure Tony and company that I’m real resulted in using a very old handle. I’ll see if I can fix it.

MarkW
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
November 10, 2022 8:13 am

In Florida, Charlie Crist has now lost campaigns for governor 3 times. Once as a Republican, once as an independent and now as a Democrat.

Beto O’Rourke from Texas and Abrams of Georgia, have each lost twice and are both famous and most of their fame and fortune comes from being well known losers.

Mason
Reply to  MarkW
November 10, 2022 2:34 pm

Do you suppose they will also end up on some AGW panel like Gore and Lurch?

MarkW
Reply to  Mason
November 10, 2022 3:04 pm

In the old days they would have ended up on Hollywood Squares.

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
November 11, 2022 2:31 am

Wasn’t Abrams just re-elected?

abolition man
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
November 10, 2022 11:05 am

Bob,
The Goracle is just another of the long list of useful idiots, sock puppets and mouth pieces used by the ruling elite to present their “solutions” to the problems they have created. Those that are particularly effective at scaring children and the weak-minded will be endlessly propped up and paid despite years or even decades of failed prognostications!
Sex Poodle!!? How am I going to unsee that!? Aaaaaah!!

Reply to  Scissor
November 10, 2022 5:55 am

Regarding leaks … did the NHC leak that Nicole attained hurricane strength, or was it wishful thinking? So far no one can identify actual reported sustained surface winds of 74 or more mph.

Reply to  John Shewchuk
November 10, 2022 6:04 am

The allegation is that it reached hurricane strength just after crossing Grand Bahama a bit to the East of Freeport. That seems implausible, but that is where any ground based measurement would be. It is claimed for no higher than the bare minimum 75mph.

Reply to  It doesnot add up
November 10, 2022 6:12 am

The Weather Channel kept promising that Nicole was to become a hurricane, just like Al Gore promised the sea ice would melt by 2013. A promise is not data. No one can yet identify valid data indicating sustained surface winds of 74 or more mph.

Rick C
Reply to  Scissor
November 10, 2022 11:05 am

The B & G analogy to a company that dumped toxic waste in the past is just stupid. Actual past bad behavior is way different that potential future risk based on pure speculation. And I’m pretty sure no company that committed a crime in the past has ever disclosed the details in their prospectus. They do have to disclose potential liability if they are currently under indictment, but that’s something that is already in the public record.

MarkW
Reply to  Rick C
November 10, 2022 3:07 pm

Dumping toxic waste was illegal at the time it happened.
CO2 is neither toxic nor is it waste.
(Yes I know that in large enough quantities CO2 can kill you. In large enough volumes, everything is toxic.)

November 10, 2022 4:58 am

The biggest climate change related threat faced by US corporations is unjustified government actions based on a false “crisis”.

strativarius
November 10, 2022 5:26 am

Blood and Gore

How very appropriately named they are

Rich Davis
Reply to  strativarius
November 11, 2022 2:33 am

Red in tooth and claw

Bruce Cobb
November 10, 2022 5:48 am

Hmmmm, well two can play at their game. What about the risk that the “climate change” fraud finally collapses, leaving “green” investments high and dry and power companies who have gone all-in on say offshore wind left holding the bag? What about the risk of all the environmental damages done by so-called renewables, and removal and abatement of thousands of hideous, oil-leaking bird-choppers and countless acres of solar panels? And so on.

Mason
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 10, 2022 2:37 pm

There is legal action currently going on with the offshore project in Virginia where the potential cost pf failure was to be slipped to the unknowing customers.

DonK31
November 10, 2022 6:06 am

It sounds like extortion to me. Nice company you have there. It would be too bad if somebody were to amass enough power and be able to shut you down by diktat. Now send me money or at least support my ability to amass that power.

Thanks

Al

Curious George
November 10, 2022 7:24 am

Go Sri Lanka, the country of an unblemished ESG score.

DonK31
Reply to  Curious George
November 10, 2022 7:27 am

And government imposed starvation.

Reply to  Curious George
November 10, 2022 3:10 pm

Bingo!
Sri Lanka is the ESG poster child of what happens if you mindlessly transition to
a supposed environmental utopia.
Venezuela is the Socialism poster child of what happens when a government runs out of “other people’s money” [ie, crash the private sector].
These are real-world examples of how equity works: make everyone poor, and hungry.

n.n
November 10, 2022 7:45 am

Trillions of dollars in redistributive change to flatline. Clever. #NoEnvy, really.

November 10, 2022 8:29 am

“ If a company is at risk of having significant liabilities for its past practice of dumping toxic chemicals into a river, don’t investors need to know that?” FAIL! This example is a lie.

At least for the U.S., general accounting standards already require pollution liability disclosures. Are Blood and Gore that stupid? Of course they are. Neither has probably ever actually run a business. In the U.S., even governmental entities are required to make annual pollution liability disclosures under GASB 49. (I know. I work in state higher education, and I have to report every summer)

November 10, 2022 8:59 am

Some non-profit or even a state attorney general should file a lawsuit against Blood and Gore requiring them to move ALL of their investments into ONLY ESG participants to demonstrate that what they are pushing with their ESG requirements is NOT some sort of PONZI scheme where their Green cronies all benefit from forcing funds managers to invest in Green Scam projects and funds while REALISTS go broke having their money poured down the drain rather than invested in FINANCIALLY SOUND investments as required by LAW and by the by-laws of every company that hasn’t taken the GREEN pill or drunk the Jim Jones GREEN Kool Aid.

November 10, 2022 9:54 am

At some point, Al Gore will discover that people sitting in the dark and cold aren’t investing at all. Isn’t that inconvenient relevant information?

Ian_e
Reply to  doonman
November 10, 2022 10:55 am

Hmm, doubt that he will be sitting in the dark and cold!

abolition man
November 10, 2022 11:15 am

Eric,
I may be mistaken, but I believe that in the long run we need to push for the designation of Climastrology and the other cultural Marxist cults as religions! Many of our current problems arise from decades of allowing children in our schools and universities to be proselytized to by religious zealots who are trying to frighten them into activism.
If one wishes to practice racism, bigotry and total ignorance of science by following these failing belief systems that is an individual choice; but religious teachings should no more be allowed in the boardroom than they are, supposedly, in the classroom!

November 10, 2022 1:19 pm

Being a pirate is all fun and games ’til somebody loses a fortune.