“Blood on their Hands”: Two Women Die, including a Mother of Four, in Climate Protest Traffic Chaos

Essay by Eric Worrall

Eco-protestors in Britain appear to be racking up a body count.

‘Just Stop Oil’ Activists Have ‘Blood On Their Hands’ After Two Women Die Amid Bridge Stunt

KURT ZINDULKA
23 Oct 202291

The Just Stop Oil climate activist group, which has been terrorising British streets by glueing themselves to roads, is accused of having “blood on their hands” after two women died in car crashes after being diverted from a bridge that activists had shut down.

Two women, including mother of four Lisa Webber, died this week after traffic was diverted to the M20 motorway as a result of activists from Just Stop Oil, which drew international attention last week after two members threw a can of tomato soup on the famed Sunflowers painting by Dutch artist Vincent van Gogh, suspending themselves off of the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge, a major crossing point of the River Thames in London.

The crash occurred when a BMW driver veered across the motorway and slammed into other cars after trying to avoid the backup caused by the green protesters. Making matters worse, the traffic delays caused by the activists delayed ambulance crews from reaching the victims for 40 minutes.

As a result of the wet conditions, one woman had lost control of her vehicle, at which point Webber left her car and tried to assist the driver. Mark Heap, a builder, who also tried to help the woman, was also injured as the BMW veered into them, leaving him with a broken back and leg.

Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/10/23/just-stop-oil-activists-have-blood-on-their-hands-after-two-women-die-amid-bridge-stunt/

I’ve done plenty of driving in London, and I remember the disruption and chaos even a single blocked road can cause.

I doubt the climate protestors genuinely care that their actions led to deaths. Extinction Rebellion founder Roger Hallam told us in 2021 he would block an ambulance, even if that led to someone dying.

I support the right to protest. I would be horrified if anyone tried to prevent well behaved climate protestors from waving a banner while standing on a sidewalk. But these climate fanatics are fed up with being routinely ignored, and are behaving well outside the bounds of acceptable democratic protest, by deliberately attempting to mess up other people’s lives to attract attention to their cause.

So how can we improve this situation? I think we can all learn a lot from the French approach to climate protests. Rapid, effective policing of disruptive protests, while maintaining the highest standards of sensitivity, showing respect for their climate beliefs by refraining from dousing their hands with petroleum derived glue solvent before removal.

The sensitive French approach to policing climate protests.
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Christopher Simpson
October 24, 2022 6:10 am

“…  maintaining the highest standards of sensitivity, showing respect for their climate beliefs by refraining from dousing their hands with petroleum derived glue solvent before removal.”

10 Points for Gryffindor.

Jeremy Poynton
Reply to  Christopher Simpson
October 24, 2022 6:20 am

And pouring the left overs down the drain…

Bryan A
Reply to  Jeremy Poynton
October 24, 2022 1:38 pm

Get the permission of the next of kin first but then create larger banners on taller poles proclaiming…”Protesters like these led to the accidental deaths of these 2 women” with their portraits on either side and arrows pointing downwards. Then stand in the intersection behind the XR protesters and hold the banner above their heads.

Aden
Reply to  Christopher Simpson
October 24, 2022 6:26 am

The acetone should be removed from them and destroyed because acetone can be used to make Molotov cocktails.
Of course that leads to a problem. How do they get away?

Richard Page
Reply to  Aden
October 24, 2022 7:00 am

Anyone found with acetone on them should be held under the prevention of terrorism act as acetone, when combined with other ingredients, can be used as a homemade explosive, similar to TNT. Obviously highly suspicious when viewed alongside their other activities.

jdgalt1
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 1:50 pm

Acetone is nail polish remover. It’s not exactly a restricted substance.

Richard Page
Reply to  jdgalt1
October 24, 2022 5:50 pm

Try buying a quantity of it and you’ll find out just how much of a restricted substance it is – it’s used in other industries not just as a nail polish remover and yes, the security services have to be informed about enquiries for acetone.

TonyG
Reply to  Richard Page
October 25, 2022 6:40 am

I’m wondering if there are different country laws involved here. I don’t know if there’s a limit (never bought THAT much) but acetone can be purchased at most hardware stores in the US in gallons and I’ve never heard of a purchase being reported or recorded. What “quantity” would trigger that?

Matt Dalby
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 5:07 pm

In UK law anyone who seeks to influence government policy by carrying out actions that affect the health and safety of members of the public is guilty of terrorism (Terrorism Act 2000). Blocking roads used by ambulances must surely fall under this definition, all we need is a government with the balls to declare these groups what they are, terrorist organisations, and police forces and courts with the balls to use existing laws to put a stop to their life threatening stunts.

Birdynumnum
Reply to  Christopher Simpson
October 24, 2022 1:56 pm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1583243430834364416

Should send her down to sort them out.

Bruce
Reply to  Christopher Simpson
October 25, 2022 11:07 am

Then disinfect with rubbing alcohol.

D. J. Hawkins
October 24, 2022 6:17 am

It sounds like the BMW driver may have been trying to run the shoulder, so primary fault has to lie with him/her. However, it’s certainly foreseeable that accidents like this might happen as a result of shutting down the bridge and JSO should be liable for contributory negligence, either as a criminal matter or civil tort.

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Robert Hanson
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 24, 2022 8:57 am

No, the fault lies with those creating the mess that the BMW driver was trying to avoid. Without their actions, there would have been no deaths. Guilty of manslaughter at least.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Robert Hanson
October 25, 2022 6:31 am

Legal responsibility differs from moral responsibility. Your claim suggests that the accident was inevitable, and therefore the proximate cause of those deaths was the blockade of the bridge. If a tractor-trailer drops a load of pipe on the highway and a motorist is impaled, that’s a proximate cause. Unless one of the JSO individuals did something to force the BMW to “veer across the motorway” their liability is contributory, not proximate. This is based on my layman’s understanding of US jurisprudence, not British.

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TonyG
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 25, 2022 6:45 am

The second part of the equation, DJ, is that the traffic conditions delayed emergency response. Even if the accident itself were not caused by the blockade, the delay was.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  TonyG
October 25, 2022 6:47 am

That is absolutely true. Good point.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
October 24, 2022 9:13 am

“Veered across the motorway” doesn’t sound like someone who was “trying to run the shoulder” at all.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
October 25, 2022 6:32 am

Clearly, you’ve never driven in New Jersey. 😉

Rah
October 24, 2022 6:19 am

I’ll tell you how to relieve the situation but you won’t like the answer.

What ever happened to the concept that the right to protest or demonstrate ends at the tip of the other person’s nose?

Richard Page
Reply to  Rah
October 24, 2022 7:02 am

Ask the woke UK Police who would rather dance the macarena than arrest criminals.

mkelly
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 8:18 am

I watch lots of British cop shows and I haven’t yet seen one that was overtly woke. Are the writers of the shows down playing that problem?

MarkW
Reply to  mkelly
October 24, 2022 9:30 am

I don’t know if it’s the cops themselves as it is their supervisors.
Most cops do what they need to do in order to keep their jobs.

TonyG
Reply to  MarkW
October 24, 2022 11:24 am

Most cops do what they need to do in order to keep their jobs.

Which I find unfortunate. We need more to stand up for what’s right instead of simply doing what they’re told.

Bil
Reply to  mkelly
October 24, 2022 10:58 am

Well, real bobbies don’t solve crime.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  Bil
October 24, 2022 12:33 pm

no, they use their powers to “nick” people for “offences” which keep the police and courts fed with fines, while not bothering with any real criminals out there.

The favourite one for the bill was doing the public as often as possible for minor traffic offences, while ignoring pedos like Jimmy Savile for decades.

(Same is true of the BBC).

DrEd
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 2:49 pm

Clear the roadways. Throw them in jail.

Ron Long
Reply to  Rah
October 24, 2022 7:49 am

Rah, I think you are onto something. I remember the video of a logger in Oregon, shouting up to a tree protestor high up in the tree, as he started up his chain saw “hold on tight, this might be a little rough”.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Rah
October 24, 2022 10:28 am

Rip their hands off the pavement or from whatever they’ve glued themselves.
Some lessons need to be learned the hard way.

Alasdair
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 24, 2022 12:21 pm

I reckon this is a good way to deal with those who glue themselves for political purposes. Anyone ripping their hands off whatever they are glued to has no idea that the hands are glued do they? So removing the hands to find out is the only way is it not?

rah
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 24, 2022 1:49 pm

How about just keep on driving like they aren’t there? Leave their remains there until they’re a red spot on the road like what is left of a deer on the interstate after the carcass is mashed beyond being a pulp.

You know us truck drivers are trained to not try and maneuver out of a deer strike. Just square up and take it on.

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Jeroen B.
October 24, 2022 6:20 am

I’m gobsmacked ,and I do have to wonder exactly what kind of tragedy will it take before these misanthropic nihilists are finally charged and prosecuted under the terrorist legislation they’ve so far managed to avoid.

michael hart
Reply to  Jeroen B.
October 24, 2022 7:45 am

Unfortunately the lenient approach to certain types of offenders has history over here.

Some years ago animal rights protesters dug up the grave of the mother of a company executive. The company bred animals for use in pharma research and testing.

Another company which performed animal testing for clinical trials was targeted and completely thrown under the bus by the entire UK banking industry. The Bank of England had to step in to offer them regular banking services.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  michael hart
October 24, 2022 10:30 am

There are costs and consequences to actions. It’s about time the bill comes due.

Richard Page
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 24, 2022 12:15 pm

It’s overdue as far as I’m concerned. When people die as a result of somebody’s actions then those actions must stop immediately, no messing about with semantics or legal technicality, just stop.

Last edited 3 months ago by Richard Page
Donald Boughton
Reply to  Richard Page
October 25, 2022 3:36 am

The morons should be charged with manslaughter when ambulances and fire engines are held up and people die as a result. If found guilty they will b banged up for ten years. The person funding these morons should also be charged with being an accomplice and given a heavy fine dependent on their given worth..

OweninGA
Reply to  michael hart
October 24, 2022 12:53 pm

And now HLS is doing quite well. When they were forced to move their stock to America because The City was jerking them around, I tried to get my broker to buy about $5000 worth of shares which were artificially suppressed by the campaigners to about 2 cents a share. The EU had just mandated redoing all the chemical safety testing because the group that did the original got caught in a data scandal, and HLS was one of the few companies in Europe with the capability to do the job. Last I looked the shares were trading at over $30 a share. Unfortunately my broker didn’t execute the buy because he didn’t understand what I was telling him and wouldn’t bother considering penny stocks. My wife worked for HLS at the time, but all the information was public news items. (though knowing their capabilities as I did gave me a slight advantage.)

Gregg Eshelman
Reply to  OweninGA
October 24, 2022 6:11 pm

That’s when you sue your broker for not doing what you ordered him to do. That’s $7.5 million dollars worth in stock you’d have now if he’d done his job.

Tom Halla
October 24, 2022 6:23 am

Does the UK have anything similar to RICO? Dealing with the entire organization severely would be a start.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 24, 2022 6:38 am

I’m sure we do indeed have anti-racketeering laws, but if we were to implement them all politicians would be behind bars.

Hmmm..

Richard Page
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
October 24, 2022 7:03 am

Oh please can I start the list, please?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 7:17 am

h/t Gilbert & Sullivan:

I’ve got a little list — I’ve got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed!

HotScot
Reply to  Tom Halla
October 24, 2022 8:03 am

The problem is, there is no ‘organisation’ called Just Stop Oil, Extinction Rebellion, Insulate Britain. Evidently they are all just concerned individuals.

It’s been deliberately organised that way so no single entity can be held responsible, banned or fined.

Tom Halla
Reply to  HotScot
October 24, 2022 8:09 am

There are people making bail for these yahoos. There is an actual organization,just not one the government is interested in dealing with. J. Edgar Hoover spent the 1950’s denying the Mafia was real. It just takes a bit of intelligence work.

DonM
Reply to  HotScot
October 24, 2022 9:26 am

You don’t really have to go after the ‘organization’.

Facilitate a legal fund and 5,000 people going after the bridge sitter & his accomplice. Create a fund that will continue going after him. His life of convenience & ease will be over.

Seems there would be a pro-bono lawyer somewhere that would like the publicity.

Drake
Reply to  DonM
October 24, 2022 12:13 pm

Are you reading the Democrat playbook with their use of the US DOJ to go after ANY conservative person or group, starting with Bill Clinton and Ruby Ridge? Followed by Waco.

Notice, like with the recent arrest of the Pastor who prayed at abortion clinics, they use MASSIVE excess personal and ALWAYS arrest people in the most “difficult” place. At Waco, David Koresh was well known to go into town regularly, and his vehicle had been followed repeatedly, BUT the FBI wanted to cause a big arrest even though they only had a warrant for ONE person. AND they had to burn the front door to cover the fact that the FBI shot first.

Hillbillerie’s playbook.

jdgalt1
Reply to  DonM
October 24, 2022 1:53 pm

Why pro bono? Offer a bounty and see who takes the case on contingency!

DonM
Reply to  jdgalt1
October 25, 2022 10:00 am

If you took the entire net worth, and the income, of the two dbags you still wouldn’t enough to entice a greedy legal office.

DonM
Reply to  HotScot
October 24, 2022 10:55 am

“In 2019 Ms Getty (CEF) donated $500,000 to climate activists Extinction Rebellion claiming that ‘disruption’ is needed for there to be action.”

There is some responsibility with deep pockets.

Richard Page
Reply to  DonM
October 24, 2022 5:59 pm

Sort of. She donated rather more, along with others such as the producer of “Don’t Look Up” to the CEF, the Climate Emergency Fund, who act as a clearing-house for a number of activist groups, including Extinction Rebellion and just stop oil. Just stop oil has received over $1 million so far so not doing too badly out of it. If you want to look at an organisation for racketeering, the CEF is the one to target.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  HotScot
October 25, 2022 3:08 am

theyre there in person so sue /fine/ jail /that person regardless

Michel le Rouméliote
October 24, 2022 6:29 am

… And the French policeman said: « Arrêtez votre cinéma ! », « Don’t be so dramatic ! » It’s very funny in french !

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Michel le Rouméliote
October 24, 2022 6:42 am

Yeah, the protestor was like a soccer player being fouled. Maybe the police should have a can of that magic spray that soccer trainers use. A quick shot and the player is good as new.

BTW I suspect the glue wasn’t glue at all. The skin of their palms weren’t damaged nor even red after being lifted from the surface.

Last edited 3 months ago by Mumbles McGuirck
Richard Page
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
October 24, 2022 7:07 am

It probably was but the silly idiots misunderstood it’s bonding qualities with the tarmac. Chances are all they actually did was coat their hands with superglue.

michael hart
Reply to  Michel le Rouméliote
October 24, 2022 7:48 am

Yes, my French isn’t good enough, but I can tell overacting when I see it.

JoeG
October 24, 2022 6:35 am

No one has the right to infringe upon the rights of others.

Richard Page
Reply to  JoeG
October 24, 2022 12:17 pm

Apparently the UN hasn’t heard that one.

October 24, 2022 6:39 am

It is of course the goal of the WEF and UN to reduce the Earth’s population so that the supposed limits to growth, which have been shown false many times as regards resources and food, will not affect their elite status. Especially those with massive inherited welath who fund the activists. All well known from their various declarations. They want people to die, in their Billions, as long as its not them. Attenborough is one of them, for example. Their weapons are to control our use of energy and access to food/famine, imposed by puppet regimes they are installing throughout Western economies. Deaths from cold, starvation, whatever works is fine for them. They simply don’t care about ordinary people, except that there are too many of them to share the wealth of the Planet with, and they are well enough off to question elite control, so must be impoverished to end that questioning, believe and do what the elites tell them.

H.R.
Reply to  Brian R Catt
October 24, 2022 7:07 am

Brian R. Catt: “ They want people to die, in their Billions, as long as its not them.”


How do they. the uberwealthy elites, make sure all the plumbers, electricians, HVAC techs, refinery workers, and airframe and powerplant mechanics are spared?

And then how do they make sure the people who supply those trades are spared? But the suppliers to the suppliers also need to be around to make various components.

Modern society is too complex with a myriad of interdependencies to get rid of a large number of people in a short period of time. Any plan to severely reduce population under the assumption that everything will go on as before, just on a smaller scale, is doomed to failure.

Philip Mulholland
Reply to  H.R.
October 24, 2022 7:36 am

Any plan to severely reduce population under the assumption that everything will go on as before, just on a smaller scale, is doomed to failure.

H.R.
Your naivety is so quaint.

H.R.
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
October 24, 2022 8:08 am

??? My opinion is based on 40 years in manufacturing spent on the shop floor as a worker bee and later as a manufacturing engineer. Modern technological society will not run if the World population is severely pared down, particularly in the ‘working classes’.

Now, if the bureaucracies of the World disappeared tomorrow, I might sing a different tune.

Richard Page
Reply to  H.R.
October 24, 2022 9:21 am

You are probably entirely correct. However you are gambling that the people with the ability and desire to drastically reduce the population are entirely rational or can understand the point you are making. As far as I can make out, most of them think we would go back to some idyllic nature-loving paradise (like Tolkein’s Shire) where all the food we need grows on handy trees and it is warm all day every day, raining only enough for the plants to grow. Ie – not remotely rational.

TonyG
Reply to  H.R.
October 24, 2022 10:38 am

HR, I think Philip is referring to naivety in thinking they actually understand the problem you raise. That IS what they believe – they can do all that and nothing will change but the scale.

H.R.
Reply to  TonyG
October 24, 2022 11:45 am

Tony, Philip referred specifically to my naiveté, but I wasn’t sure why exactly I was being naive. Thus, the question marks.

I always appreciate feedback to my comments, though. Wasn’t it you who taught me why the EV stickers on cars were a great idea and not an insult to firefighters? (It was either you or TonyL that schooled me on that topic a while back. I’ve since forgotten which Tony it was.)

TonyG
Reply to  H.R.
October 24, 2022 3:30 pm

I don’t specifically recall that conversation but I’m a volunteer firefighter and that sounds like something I would say.

I hope I didn’t come across in any way demeaning or condescending – I was just trying to answer your question. It’s so easy for us to see the obvious flaw in these ideas that it’s incredibly difficult to grasp how little understanding these people have of reality. I’m not sure I would agree with “naivety” to describe that but that seemed to be what Philip was referring to.

H.R.
Reply to  TonyG
October 24, 2022 5:26 pm

Ah! So it was you. No, you did not come across as condescending or demeaning.

I thought the EV stickers were an insult to the firefighters. I figured firefighters could tell an EV from an ICE. You explained how, in the heat of the moment (😉), the concern was saving a life and not identifying what vehicle it was, which may be very hard to tell if the car is reallu mangled. And EVs can be dangerous when cutting through with hydraulic shears,

Very educational. Thanks again, TonyG.

MarkW
Reply to  H.R.
October 24, 2022 9:38 am

For the most part, they consider “the trades” to be skills that can be picked up with just a few minutes of study.
In their view, if the peasants can do it, how hard can it be.

H.R.
Reply to  MarkW
October 24, 2022 11:54 am

Absolutely, Mark. 👍 They should try telling that to a tool and die maker. We’re already running very short of that skill.

True of machinists, too. Many plants have a lot of machine tools but only a couple of machinists. The rest are just machine operators.

Drake
Reply to  MarkW
October 24, 2022 12:37 pm

My Father in Law, since passed 10 years ago at 83, had a saying: Those who make OVER $100.00 an hour always think those who make LESS than $100.00 an hour are overpaid.

The elite still think that.

We need the Fair Tax with a one time WEALTH tax for ALL people and “foundations”, “endowments” and “trusts”, etc.at 50% or more of their NET worth. NOT to include publically held corporations, since the worth of those companies, their stocks, will be taxed at the individual ownership level.

michael hart
Reply to  Brian R Catt
October 24, 2022 7:54 am

Brian, check out the new Boston Virus discussed by Dr Campbell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WTZo9ieBKY

They willfully made a new variant of the virus that goes from killing 0% of mice bearing the human ACE receptor on lung cells to one that kills 80% of mice bearing the human ACE receptor on lung cells.

Words fail me.

jdgalt1
Reply to  Brian R Catt
October 24, 2022 1:55 pm

They deserve the ending of Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six.

Richard Hughes
October 24, 2022 6:46 am

I absolutely love the french approach

Joao Martins
Reply to  Richard Hughes
October 24, 2022 7:53 am

Another approach if you are in the first row of stopped drivers: put your car in first gear and make it roll onward VERY, VERY SLOWLY BUT NON-STOPPING. If one tire touches a foot, or an arm, slow down but don’t stop. Stop only when the glued being rises and wants to walk away. If there is some clothing stuck under the tire, offer your help in the form of a penknife or a pair of scissors, but DON’T REVERSE!
(In other words: what is the value/freedom that takes precedence: the right to demonstrate anarchically or the right to free circulation?)

ResourceGuy
October 24, 2022 6:52 am

Send the protest group to the U.S. highways, NASCAR races, and Sturgis Rally. It will be the last time you see them.

ResourceGuy
October 24, 2022 6:54 am

The French can be very practical at times.

Richard Page
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 24, 2022 7:08 am

But not, however, where boats are concerned.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 24, 2022 7:18 am

They do, once in a great while, get something right.

JCDN Texas
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 24, 2022 7:19 am

They have good I-Maginot-tions . . . 🙂

n.n
October 24, 2022 7:06 am

The problem is that this class of activists have demonstrated an affinity for blocking thoroughfares, mobbing vehicles, and, in America, even going so far as to invade residential neighborhoods. People are understandably anxious.

Last edited 3 months ago by n.n
Michael in Dublin
October 24, 2022 7:19 am

Simple solution: Protests to be limited to green areas on Sundays where they will not obstruct traffic or pedestrians. Protesters breaking this law get locked up and given hard labour to pay for their incarceration – like in Cuba. No bail or get out of jail free card.

Richard Page
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
October 24, 2022 10:22 am

Tell them they can protest as much as they like for as long as they like but only in Milton Keynes. We would, of course, provide counselling for the ones that managed to escape!

tgasloli
October 24, 2022 7:29 am

Even in the US, where the right to protest is protected by the 1st Amendment, the right to protest does not include blocking traffic. What is happening here is the pro-climate hysteria government is allowing illegal activity to force compliance with its own delusional Net Zero goals.

The same thing is happening at museums. You do not get into a gallery with a bucket of mashed potatoes unless the museum administration has approved it.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  tgasloli
October 24, 2022 9:17 am

Well there were plenty of protests in recent years in the US which did block traffic…including interstates. Instead of getting rid of the protestors, police closed down access to try and protect them.

jeffery p
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
October 24, 2022 9:28 am

Depends on what’s being protested. As long as the protests support the narrative told by the people who run the cities, the protests are not just allowed, they are encouraged.

Let me ask you this — If your city or school system is plagued with systemic racism, would you fire the people who have been in charge for decades or vote to keep them in power?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  tgasloli
October 25, 2022 3:15 am

yeah how they got 2 choc cakes into Taussauds to throw at charles effigy

Jacek Marchel
October 24, 2022 7:37 am

The protest that on purpose obstruct, destroy property or violate other people rights is not a protest that any society should support. Such type of the protest shall be treated with harsh financial or even jail penalties.

Olen
October 24, 2022 7:55 am

There are evil in these people who put their demonstration above the lives of others going peacefully about the daily life. And a touch of evil in officials who could stop it and don’t.

October 24, 2022 8:01 am

I’ve done plenty of driving in London, and I remember the disruption and chaos even a single blocked road can cause.

bad road design

Richard Page
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 24, 2022 9:28 am

Design? London evolved from a Roman shanty-town next to a fort into the modern metropolis it is today – there was bloody little ‘design’ involved. Most UK towns and cities (Milton Keynes a notable exception) are the same – either Roman, Saxon or medieval towns unsuited for a lot of modern traffic. Don’t knock almost 2,000 years of visible history.

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 11:00 am

Who put that damn winding river in the middle of town?

jdgalt1
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 1:58 pm

The way I learned it the Iceni had a city there before the Romans even showed up.

Richard Page
Reply to  jdgalt1
October 24, 2022 6:08 pm

No. The Iceni were a bit further north – just south of the wash, not really close to London. The Iceni did sack the place though, burnt it and massacred the population I think. The Iceni capital was Venta Icenorum (modern day Caistor st Edmund in Norfolk).

Drake
Reply to  Richard Page
October 24, 2022 8:26 pm

Funny story about Boston US roads, they are designed by cows. The roads were built of cow paths, much like rural trails are on old game trails.

LdB
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 24, 2022 5:09 pm

If UK did everything it needed for your “good road design” there would be no land not a road in many parts. Drive to the road conditions rule and stop making excuses.

DonM
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
October 25, 2022 10:05 am

you are just the right kind of guy to tell them how to fix it … get to it. I’m sure that they will listen to your thoughtful logic and prose.

4E Douglas
October 24, 2022 8:02 am

Sue them.

Curious George
Reply to  4E Douglas
October 24, 2022 8:06 am

Or, using their own logic, jail them until the hearing.

Andy H
October 24, 2022 8:40 am

I hope you all carry cable ties in your car, just in case you need it to keep a hub cap or bit of trim in place. May also be useful for attaching protesters to lamp posts.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Andy H
October 25, 2022 6:19 am

By “attaching” you mean hanging by their feet?
Anyway, the cable is too expensive. Better stick them to the lamp posts with their own glue.

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Independent
October 24, 2022 8:42 am

Interesting that it’s always London or D.C. or a Western country where this happens. If XR or whoever is so concerned, why aren’t they gluing themselves to the streets of Beijing? China is by far the biggest emitter of carbon dioxide (NOT “carbon pollution”) and their emissions are rapidly rising. Unless perhaps this isn’t about CO2 at all…

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Independent
October 24, 2022 9:10 am

Unless perhaps this isn’t about CO2 at all…”

Well, of course, it isn’t. As we’ve been told multiple times by the leaders of the movement, the whole purpose of the AGW nonsense is to, in their own words, “stymie capitalism”. With that mindset, what goes on in China is irrelevant.

H.R.
Reply to  Robert Hanson
October 24, 2022 12:57 pm

Ohhh… now I get it.

Commie pollution + (10x) CO2 emissions = good.

Free market CO2 emissions = bad.

It took me a while to get XR’s logic.


Wait… there’s no logic in that. None at all.

auto
Reply to  H.R.
October 24, 2022 2:42 pm

H.R.
As someone said here before :
China is already communist.

Next question.

Auto, being a bit simplistic today [when am I not?]
.

H.R.
Reply to  auto
October 24, 2022 5:32 pm

Never simplistic, Auto. Usually to the point with style and humo(u)r.

Rob_Dawg
October 24, 2022 8:54 am

Jus’ thinkin’ out loud here but when there’s a mess on the roads often the fire department comes out with their high pressure hoses and sprays until the useless debris is washed away.

alastair gray
October 24, 2022 8:55 am

I would happily shoot the treacherous bastards

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Brad-DXT
October 24, 2022 9:08 am

Eric says:
“I doubt the climate protestors genuinely care that their actions led to deaths.”

I doubt the WEF, Soros, and other Net-Zero proponents care that their actions lead to deaths either.
We will soon see deaths that require percentages and statistics to quantify if we continue to follow the Green New Deal path.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Brad-DXT
October 24, 2022 9:43 am

They want dead pensioners, to ‘save the planet’…..

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 24, 2022 10:08 am

Dead pensioners = dead useless eaters.

MarkW
October 24, 2022 9:26 am

and are behaving well outside the bounds of acceptable democratic protest,

The socialists have declared time and again, that it’s only “democracy” when they win.

eyesonu
October 24, 2022 9:26 am

I love the video!

Maybe go one step further and dose the inside and outside of their panties/pants with super glue and sit them back down on the road for a bit and when transport arrives jerk them up for a ride to the police station. Now that would give them the ‘red ass’ and promote sensitivity! lol

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Joseph Zorzin
October 24, 2022 9:55 am

The punk who defiled the Van Gogh painting must be severely punished- maybe a few years in jail after a public whipping.

Richard Page
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
October 24, 2022 12:24 pm

A few years in jail with only tomato soup to eat for every meal. Let the punishment fit the crime.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Richard Page
October 25, 2022 3:19 am

cold soup cos heating would use FF

Mike Maguire
October 24, 2022 10:14 am

Multiply that by 10 million+ people to get the deaths which will occur from replacing fossil fuels that are greening up the planet with things like, diffuse, intermittent wind: The energy source from environmental hell…….tearing up the earth to mine, destroying landscapes and ecosystems, while killing millions of birds and bats that last 25 years, then have to be replaced.

That’s actually what these people want?

No, they just don’t know this is what they’ll get!

Mike Maguire
Reply to  Mike Maguire
October 24, 2022 10:21 am

And fertilizing crops from the air, CO2 and from the soils which supports billions of humans right now:

 Dutch farmers and nitrogen :    

 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/86882/

Fertilizer/Natural Gas Prices. Energy crisis in Europe because of unreliable fake green/anti environmental energy!

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/88331/

Another secret about fossil fuels:
Haber Bosch process-fertilizers feeding the planet using natural gas-doubling food production/crop yields.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39215/

Redge
October 24, 2022 10:20 am

In the UK we define terrorism as a violent action that:

  • Endangers a person’s life, other than that of the person committing the action
  • Involves serious violence against a person
  • Causes serious damage to property
  • Creates a serious risk to the public’s health and safety
  • Interferes with or seriously disrupts an electronic system

Why are these people not being called out for what they are?

John Hultquist
October 24, 2022 10:29 am

a bridge that activists had shut down.

Hmm. Who shut down the bridge?
I think that was done by police. Why?

Rah
October 24, 2022 10:33 am

Just out of curiosity I looked up the oath the constable takes in the UK.

“…declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law.“

Kevin McNeill
October 24, 2022 12:10 pm

The second fellow removed must play football, lovely play acting.

Sean
October 24, 2022 1:09 pm

If the winter heating season is a dire as people fear due to lack of natural gas, the body count could be staggering.

mega weld
October 24, 2022 1:32 pm

These eco terrorists need to be sued. They need be held in for civil liability.

jdgalt1
October 24, 2022 1:48 pm

Protesters aren’t the only people with human rights. The rest of us have the human right to continue with our normal lives. If a freeway is blocked, the police should do what they do in China: shoot the blocker, clean up the mess, and get traffic moving again post haste.

John V. Wright
October 24, 2022 1:56 pm

Baseball bat.

david s
October 24, 2022 1:58 pm

There should be a new category of crime called being an idiot. The protester should be sentenced to 1 year in jail for obstructing traffic and ten years for being an idiot.

Richard Page
Reply to  david s
October 24, 2022 6:11 pm

Unfortunately they all appear to be serving a life sentence for being an idiot…

Bob
October 24, 2022 3:54 pm

Eric you are far to forgiving, these people have gone far far beyond peaceful protest. This needs to be stopped now. Worse than the protesters are the worthless bureaucrats, politicians and administrators who allow this nonsense to continue. I would punish them more than the protesters. I have said this before and I’ll say it again, the longer the worthless bureaucrats, politicians and administrators refuse to do their job the more likely it is that some of these protesters is going to come to real harm. I will laugh.

Gunga Din
October 24, 2022 4:01 pm

Form what I understand, it was the police that closed off the bridge because of these idiots. The first they threated to drop something that could endanger the lives below, call in the snipers to take them out.
Harsh, maybe, but no less harsh than what they threaten.
This wasn’t a matter of “free speech”.
Hold up your banner on a sidewalk if you want to display your message. Just give who want to walk by you free passage.

Psychometrician
October 24, 2022 4:11 pm

I haven’t heard of any more climate “protests” in France!

cgh
October 24, 2022 6:23 pm

So how can we improve this situation? I think we can all learn a lot from the French approach to climate protests. Rapid, effective policing of disruptive protests, while maintaining the highest standards of sensitivity…”

No. If they glue themselves to roadways, simply drive right over them. If they glue themselves to walls, simply leave them there without food and water. Or if you want to be merciful, simply pull them off the wall, and they can leave behind whatever remains attached.

rah
October 25, 2022 7:47 am

I’m thinking a cattle prod would be a darn effective way of taking care of some situations. A few pokes and they’ll pull their own hands off what ever their glued to.

Bruce
October 25, 2022 11:07 am

Back up a dirty old diesel bus with the exhaust blowing directly in their faces.

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