When a Chemistry Journal Publishes a Sociologist on Climate and Energy

by Gregory J. Rummo

In an April 25, 2022 Chemical and Engineering News article, Holly Jean Buck, a “development sociologist,” expresses some peculiar views about fossil fuels that go beyond climate change. It is surprising to find them purveyed in a journal not of sociology or politics but of chemistry and engineering.

For starters, Buck maintains, “achieving net-zero emissions won’t ensure that the planet is buffered from the environmental and health impacts of fossil fuel extraction and use.”

Buck is a professor of environment and sustainability at the University at Buffalo. Her Ph.D. is in development sociology. She is also a contributing author to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is a good reminder that, contrary to popular perception, not only climate scientists but also plenty of social scientists contribute to the IPCC’s “scientific” reports. 

“Climate change isn’t the only reason for phasing out fossil fuels,” she says, which “are connected to negative impacts, including financial support of corrupt and oppressive governments, air pollution and its health effects, and environmental injustice.” 

Let’s examine these claims one by one.

First, while Buck is right that zero emissions wouldn’t ensure that the planet is buffered from the environmental and health impacts of fossil fuel extraction, she writes as if everything about fossil fuels were bad.

Like all too many anti-fossil fuel activists, Buck simply fails to take into account all the direct benefits of fossil fuels—the enormous amount of energy indispensable to lifting and keeping whole societies out of poverty. She also ignores the fact that fossil fuels aren’t the only energy sources that require a great deal of mining—wind and solar do, too, requiring the excavation of far more earth per unit of energy produced for the minerals essential to making wind turbines and solar panels. Fossil fuels require far less land occupation per unit of energy generated.

What’s more, she and others count carbon dioxide only as a pollutant, as if the only thing it does in the atmosphere is warm the planet. Acknowledging that it does do so but declining for our purposes here to debate how much, we can point out that all green plants depend on carbon dioxide’s presence in the atmosphere as the carbon source for photosynthesis, which in turn produces carbohydrates and oxygen. We humans depend on both—we eat those carbohydrates as various grains, and we breathe the oxygen that is vital for life. If it were possible to remove all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, life on Earth would cease.

The oceans’ algae and the forests do a great job of buffering atmospheric carbon dioxide. As levels have increased from both the use of fossil fuels and natural processes, there has been a greening of the Earth, resulting in increased yields of grain.

NASA reported on its website in 2016, “Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds.”Here’s a portion of what the authors reported in the journal Nature Climate Change:  

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High-Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States. From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

I’m not sure the theory that the extraction of fossil fuels leads to sub-surface warming has been proven with any degree of certainty. In “Fossil fuel extraction could be contributing to climate change by heating Earth from within,” Rizwan Nawaz and Adel Sharifclaim that “heat from the earth’s interior could be contributing to rising temperatures … fossil fuels such as coal, oil and gas in layers and crevices beneath the Earth’s surface act as an insulating blanket, trapping heat from the planet’s interior. As these deposits have been emptied by fossil fuel extraction, more of that heat could be reaching the surface.”

Two uses of the conditional verb could suggest that this claim is mere speculation. That the void spaces created by fossil fuel extraction are quickly replaced by groundwater makes it likely that it is so. Water’s specific heat is double that of oil and gasoline. In other words, water’s insulating properties are higher than crude oil and would be expected to increase, not decrease, the insulating properties of the fluid filling any subterranean void spaces resulting from fossil fuel extraction.

Second, Buck claims that fossil fuels help underwrite corrupt and oppressive governments.

There is some truth to this claim, which Senators Lindsay Graham (R-SC) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) address in a 2021 Time Magazine article. In “A World Without Fossil Fuels Funding Our Enemies Would Be A Safer World for America,” they wrote,

Oil and gas development has often been associated with autocracy and corruption. Governments in countries such as Russia and Iran have used oil and gas to threaten neighbors and fund terrorism. Corruption, autocracy, and terrorism are a persistent threat to nations that stand on the rule of law, and America has long been the exemplar of the rule-of-law nation. A world in which oil and gas money has less power is a world that will likely have less corruption, autocracy, and terror. That world will be a safer world for America.

The solution to this problem, however, isn’t to cease using fossil fuels but to become energy independent, as we were in 2020, before the current administration decided to waterboard the oil and gas industry. And now we’re all paying for it at the gas pump.

Third, she says fossil fuels are connected to air pollution and its health effects.

Yet according to Our World in Data’s article “Air Pollution”(first published in October 2017; last revised in January 2021), by Hannah Ritchie and Max Roser, death rates from all air pollution from 1990 to 2019 have declined steadily from 156.05 to 85.62 per 100,000. Yet that happened during a time when fossil fuel use increased, largely due to transportation, and when CO2 emissions increased by 24%. 

How can this be? There is only one explanation: improved technology. Man has steadily developed ways to utilize fossil fuels more efficiently. As nations’ economies improve due largely to the use of fossil fuels, their ability to afford cleaner environments—made possible in part by advanced emission controls on power plants fueled by coal and natural gas and on vehicles fueled by gasoline and diesel—increases. We all want to breathe cleaner air, and we do. 

Diesel Technology Forum reports:  

Recent long-term trends show that air quality and economic growth go hand in hand. While it takes more energy to fuel business expansion, the wealth generated by growing economic opportunity means greater uptake in clean and efficient technologies. That is great news for air quality! When it comes to powering things that move and do work, diesel technology has been the key technology. Over decades, the diesel platform has undergone a significant transformation to near-zero emissions. The adoption of these clean diesel technologies has been a contributor to air quality improvements.

Fourth, Buck says fossil fuels lead to environmental injustice.

As we have explained, the world’s levels of air pollution and health-related deaths have dropped while fossil fuel consumption has increased. And as technology continues to improve, this trend will continue as well. 

But if you really want to talk about environmental injustice, the industries involved in the production of solar panels and the lithium-cobalt batteries used in EVs have quite a bit of blood on their hands. 

In “Is It Ethical to Purchase An EV Lithium Battery Powered Vehicle?” Ronald Stein, policy advisor for The Heartland Institute and co-author with Todd Royal of Clean Energy Exploitations: Helping Citizens Understand the Environmental and Humanity Abuses that Support ‘Clean Energy’, has written: 

There is virtually no existing transparency of the environmental degradation and the human rights abuses occurring in developing countries with yellow, brown, and black skinned people.  Both human rights abuses and environmental degradation are directly connected to the mining for the exotic minerals and metals that are required to manufacture wind turbines, solar panels, and EV batteries. … The current fossil fuel infrastructure is less invasive than mining for the exotic minerals and metals required to create the batteries needed to store ‘green energy.’ In developing countries, these mining operations exploit child labor, and are responsible for the most egregious human rights violations of vulnerable minority populations. These operations are also directly destroying the planet through environmental degradation.

“Net-zero emission goals are not enough” and “we know we have to wind down the production of fossil fuels,” as Dr. Buck maintains, are naked assertions based in neither sound science nor economic reality. But what should we expect from an author of the IPCC report with a doctorate in development sociology? It is disappointing that her views are showcased in a publication that is supposed to focus on chemistry and chemical, not social, engineering.

Gregory J. Rummo is Lecturer of Chemistry in the School of Arts and Sciences at Palm Beach Atlantic University, former CEO of New Chemic (US), Inc., author of The View from the Grass Roots, and a Contributing Writer for The Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation.

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September 3, 2022 2:17 pm

The author destroyed every argument by the sociology Ph.D. as expected.
But it’s long past time to stop claiming the US was energy independent in 2020.
That never happened. There were net exports of oil, but that does not mean energy independence, because there were imports of oil too. Energy independence means no other nations can disrupt your economy by reducing or cutting off their exports of energy to you. The US WAS ENERGY INDEPENDENT IN THE 1940s — NOT SINCE THEN

Even though U.S. annual total petroleum exports were greater than total petroleum imports in 2020 and 2021, the United States still imported some crude oil and petroleum products from other countries to help to supply domestic demand for petroleum and to supply international markets.
Apr 21, 2022

“In 2021, the United States imported about 8.47 million barrels per day (b/d) of petroleum from 73 countries. Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids (HGLs), refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels. Crude oil imports of about 6.11 million b/d accounted for about 72% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports in 2021, and non-crude oil petroleum accounted for about 28% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports.
In 2021, the United States exported about 8.63 million b/d of petroleum to 176 countries and 4 U.S. territories. Crude oil exports of about 2.98 million b/d accounted for 35% of total U.S. gross petroleum exports in 2021. The resulting total net petroleum imports (imports minus exports) were about -0.16 million b/d in 2021, which means that the United States was a net petroleum exporter of 0.16 million b/d in 2021.”
SOURCE:
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) – U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

stinkerp
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 2:59 pm

Straining at gnats. We all knew exactly what the author meant: the Trump administration encouraged the fossil fuel industry which led to record production and low prices and the closest thing to “energy independence” that we’ve had in my lifetime. We have vast reserves of fossil fuels and uranium and we have let the environmentalist zealots who know absolutely nothing useful about energy or economics to usurp our energy policy. We need the smart kids to run things again, like Trump’s administration did.

Reply to  stinkerp
September 3, 2022 6:42 pm

It never hurts to be factually correct and say the US was a net exporter of oil, and close to being energy independent under Trump. Facts matter. Leftist fact checkers can easily refute disinformation, so why provide them with ammunition? The US has been importing poil since the 1940s, so has not been energy independent. Period. You can’t refute the truth.

Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 9:22 pm

The US imports oil
The US imports 90% of uranium
The US imports a small amount of LNG
In 2021, about 99% of U.S. total annual natural gas imports were from Canada and nearly all by pipelines. A small amount of CNG came by truck from Canada—0.01% of total natural gas imports. About 1% of total U.S. natural gas imports came as LNG, of which 99% were from Trinidad and Tobago.

This all adds up to NOT ENERGY INDEPENDENT no matter what Donald Trump claimed. He made plenty of false claims.

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KcTaz
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 10:45 pm

Re uranium, it sure would have been helpful if Hillary and Obama hadn’t approved the sale of one of our huge uranium deposits to Russia while she was Secretary of State.
We learned that shortly after the sale was approved, 10 Russian oligarchs “donated” to her racket, er “charity.”  They gave 147 million dollars to their CGI set up in Canada because she thought she wouldn’t have to disclose donors. She was wrong. Plus, Bill got a $500,000 dollar speaking gig plus all expenses paid to give a speech in Russia.
However, I don’t think of uranium when I think of energy independence and I doubt if many others do, either. As I recall, there was a shortage of uranium worldwide when the US did that sale.

Reply to  KcTaz
September 4, 2022 12:58 am

Yet another right wing myth — the $147 million:

KcTaz
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 11:29 pm

Richard, you do, of course, have evidence to support your claim that the figure is false, I presume? Why didn’t you provide it, if you can prove it is false? 
Forgive me for not accepting your claim on your say-so.

KcTaz
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 10:35 pm

” Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids (HGLs), refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels. Crude oil imports of about 6.11 million b/d accounted for about 72% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports in 2021, and non-crude oil petroleum accounted for about 28% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports.
In 2021, the United States exported about 8.63 million b/d of petroleum to 176 countries and 4 U.S. territories. Crude oil exports of about 2.98 million b/d accounted for 35% of total U.S. gross petroleum exports in 2021. The resulting total net petroleum imports (imports minus exports) were about -0.16 million b/d in 2021, which means that the United States was a net petroleum exporter of 0.16 million b/d in 2021.”
Richard, I’d say if all we had to do if we needed Petroleum products was to stop exports, we were energy independent.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 3:24 pm

If we are exporting oil, then we are energy independent.
The fact that we also import some oil is irrelevant. It just means that for some portion of the country, it’s cheaper to import from a foreign country than it does from the other side of our country.
There is also the fact that the US exports many refined oil products. The raw materials for some of these being imported.

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Reply to  MarkW
September 3, 2022 6:44 pm

Not INDEPENDENT if importing oil
Look up the word “indepoendent:
The oil is mainly from Canada and Mexico.

In 2021, the United States imported about 8.47 million barrels per day (b/d) of petroleum from 73 countries. Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids (HGLs), refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels.
Mar 9, 2022

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 4, 2022 7:05 am

There’s a difference between importing and net importing, one that seems to be beyond your abilities to comprehend.

As long as we are net exporters, we are independent. If the need ever arrived, we could substitute exports for imports. However it’s cheaper to not do so.

You are demanding that consumers pay higher prices in order to achieve a mythical goal that only matters to you.

BobM
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 4, 2022 7:24 pm

Not sure where I saw it, but it was my understanding that the US “exported” crude from Alaska to Japan, cheaper than going to the US West Coast, then imported around the same from Canada via pipeline because the entire transaction was better for all. That seems to me to be a fair deal, but cannot reasonably be used to suggest the US was not energy independent because some oil was “exported” and the equivalent “imported” for efficiency and convenience.

jeffery P
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 3:56 pm

Some of the crude oil the US imports is refined and exported. Sorry, that doesn’t count against energy independence. It’s a win for American jobs and a win for countries unable to refine the oil they extract.

Reply to  jeffery P
September 3, 2022 6:46 pm

Of course it counts.
The US refineries import oil
Therefore they are not oil independent
What is so complicated about that?

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 4, 2022 7:06 am

Little minds get hung up on little facts.

You seem to feel that shutting down this refinery that imports in order to export, would improve the economic situation of the US.

markl
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 7:28 pm

“The resulting total net petroleum imports (imports minus exports) were about -0.16 million b/d in 2021, which means that the United States was a net petroleum exporter of 0.16 million b/d in 2021.” +1, which made the US energy independent. One must also take into account the type of oil …. not all oil is equal or used for all applications.

Reply to  markl
September 3, 2022 9:27 pm

Net exporter and energy independent are two different thinks
If there are any imports, a nation is not independent
The US imports oil, imports 90% of uranium and imports a small amount of LNG for New England because of the lack of pipelines from PA natural gas.

KcTaz
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 3, 2022 10:49 pm

Net exporter and energy independent are two different thinks”
Seems like basically the same thing to me. If we need the energy, we can stop exporting. We were a net exporter. I think you’re splitting hairs.

Reply to  KcTaz
September 4, 2022 12:57 am

Why would any nation import energy and pay for getting it transported there by ship if it was already available locally. Think !

mkelly
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 4, 2022 6:29 am

Ok, I thinked.

There are various types of crude oil. Light sweet, WTI, heavy so depending on what is produced the US may not have a refinery that can take the oil. So it gets exported to get refined.

Hawaii may get refined products cheaper from places other than California.

Alaskan crude may not be able to be refined in US or is cheaper to ship elsewhere.

Economics will drive most decisions then comes federal shipping laws.

So I agree with KcTaz.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 4, 2022 7:08 am

The answer to that is easy, really.
Because the source of the oil is closer than the US source.
Japan is closer to Valdez Alaska than are many west coast ports.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
September 5, 2022 10:11 am

Another example is exporting to Quebec and the maritime provinces from New York and Pennsylvania fields, because they are close together. While at the same time the upper mid-west imports from Saskatchewan and Manitoba fields, because they are closer.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 4, 2022 7:07 am

If you are a net exporter, you are energy independent. They are not different things.

Reply to  MarkW
September 4, 2022 11:48 am

Baloney
If you import oil and uranium, then you are DEPENDENT,
not INDEPENDENT,

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 5, 2022 10:11 am

You really get hung up on irrelevancies. No wonder you worship Putin.

Rud Istvan
September 3, 2022 2:27 pm

Her article amply explains several reasons why her PhD is in sociology and not chemistry or engineering.
Nice rebuttal. I would not have been as gentlemanly. Increasingly in favor of abject ridicule of such nonsense as she spouts.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 3, 2022 9:27 pm

PhD = Piled High and Deep

Paul Johnson
September 3, 2022 2:34 pm

While eliminating fossil fuels would be one way to defund our enemies, a more feasible way would be to increase our domestic production and drive them out of the market.

Spetzer86
Reply to  Paul Johnson
September 3, 2022 2:53 pm

Except that, according to Brandon, many of the apparent enemies of the current state are living in your neighbor’s homes….

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Spetzer86
September 3, 2022 4:51 pm

That’s Führer Brandon, you deplorable MAGA scum!

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Mr.
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 3, 2022 5:50 pm

Didn’t The Bee and others jump straight on to Brandon’s adoption of Adolf’s stand-up routines?

Fantastic piss-taking. Love it!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 4, 2022 4:13 am

I was wondering when someone would put a Hitler mustache on Joe Biden. It suits him well. 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 4, 2022 7:10 am

The Democrat party spent $46 million dollars this summer supporting many Trump supporting candidates in their primaries.

Now they are going all out to try and convince the country that Trump supporting candidates are a danger to the country.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  MarkW
September 4, 2022 6:35 pm

They wanted to run against weaker republicans, that’s the reason.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 5, 2022 4:32 am

“Weaker” from the radical Democrat viewpoint. They may be in for a surprise in November. Those MAGA Republicans may be the ones elected.

TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 6, 2022 6:56 am

They.think.that.a.more.”radical”.Republican.can’t.win.,and.they.bring.in.their.more.radical.candidates.to.run.against..
They’re.just.guaranteeing.even.more.political.polarization.with.their.approach..Almost.like.they.want.it.

Michael E McHenry
September 3, 2022 2:40 pm

I’m a lifetime ACS member hence a CE&N subscriber. The magazine has become highly politicized over the last decade. Lots of emphasis on environmentalism
 

MarkH
Reply to  Michael E McHenry
September 3, 2022 3:40 pm

When it starts talking about systems of oppression and “x justice”, where x is whatever cause they want to insert to frame an oppressor/oppressed system, where if only we redistributed whatever resource (physical or social) to obtain “equity”. What you are dealing with is Marxism. You cannot argue with them on any rational basis as they are ideologically possessed. It sounds like the ACS, as with many other organizations, has been infiltrated.

Eric
Reply to  Michael E McHenry
September 3, 2022 4:41 pm

It’s also probably a mistake to label C&EN as a “journal”. This is not a peer-reviewed publication.

Scissor
Reply to  Eric
September 3, 2022 5:35 pm

Yeah, it’s trade magazine, especially geared toward academic chemists.

Michael E McHenry
Reply to  Scissor
September 4, 2022 7:11 am

it has significant industry news content

Scissor
Reply to  Michael E McHenry
September 3, 2022 5:34 pm

Yes, I think it was communist Rudy Baum taking over C&EN that got the socialist ball rolling at ACS. I won’t disparage Baum any more because he died this past March, only 68 years old, but his replacement, Bibiana Campos is just as bad.

It’s sad to see the American Chemical Society participate in the suicide of the chemical industry.

Philo
Reply to  Michael E McHenry
September 3, 2022 6:34 pm

Heck, CE& was starting to turn into a blather magazine ver thirty years ago when i changed from chemistry items and took up foods- like chocolate and even one for extraterrestials that was a hit also among children and ven some adults.

PaulD
Reply to  Michael E McHenry
September 3, 2022 11:03 pm

The ACS drank the koolaid years ago, in response I let my ACS membership lapse!

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Michael E McHenry
September 4, 2022 5:41 am

Just like the IEEE Spectum, full of “climate change” propaganda.

Michael in Dublin
September 3, 2022 2:47 pm

Calling sociology a science is as ludicrous as calling history a science. Chemistry is a science because it involves experiments and repeated experiments in order to prove every claim. Where are the experiments proving the claims of climate alarmists? Their claims come from the hallowed but sterile halls of academia not from the real world.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
September 3, 2022 4:29 pm

A retiring mechanical engineer @ my alma mater related that he’d started
college as a socialist- I mean sociology major. While visiting his parents
for Thanksgiving, with a lot of relatives present, he realized it really wasn’t
that well respected as everybody had opinions about it. So he switched to
ME which required actual knowledge of science & had a very stellar career, winning most every award possible, except a Nobel Prize. Smart move!

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Scissor
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 3, 2022 5:45 pm

There’s a small lecture hall next to my office that is used by non-science departments, for whatever reason, but I occasionally overhear conversations in the hallway and sometimes bits of lectures.

Without a doubt, college students in the “humanities” ironically are taught what to think and unfortunately much is centered on hating humans.

Anyway, just a couple of days ago, I overheard a female student with blue hair describe her Intro to LGBTQ Studies course. It didn’t occur to me that there would be multiple levels of such a topic.

Don’t worry, I think she’s got it licked.

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KcTaz
Reply to  Scissor
September 3, 2022 10:54 pm

And when she graduates and can, if lucky, only get a job as a barista, she’ll want another Gov. bailout of her student loans.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
September 4, 2022 5:44 am

All you have to do to write the right papers and you pass.

Think of how much $$$ this person is paying to do so,

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HotScot
September 3, 2022 2:49 pm

Is this woman saying it’s not OK to buy oil from Saudi (for example) who are signatories of Trump’s Abraham’s accord, which includes Sudan finally lifting their 50 year long declaration of war on Israel; but it’s fine to buy wind turbines and solar panels from China which enslaves people to make them?
These people are blinded by their cult driven zeal to turn the world into a socialist hell hole.
The Long March through the institutions has been an almost complete success, but people are waking up.

observa
Reply to  HotScot
September 3, 2022 4:00 pm

It’s rather ironic that fossil fuels have been such a victim of their own success in society affording so many stinkers in residence. Be careful what they wish for as there’s always an opportunist Pol Pot handy waiting in the wings for useful idiots.

Reply to  observa
September 3, 2022 9:30 pm

Some leftists oppose burning fossil fuels but don’t oppose using fossil fuels for other uses, such as making plastics. I doubt if many refineries could earn a profit if the demand for fossil fuels to be burned for power dropped by a large percentage.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 4, 2022 1:13 am

The irony of Just Stop Oil activists clothed head to toe in apparel made entirely from and using fossil fuels always makes me smile.

Jtom
Reply to  HotScot
September 3, 2022 4:25 pm

You can pretty much say the exact same thing about the cocoa industry. Think she’ll give up chocolate? For that matter, will she give up any of the myriad products synthesized from oil? Medicines, all things containing plastic including any electrical product since electrical wiring has plastic insulation, cosmetics including lipstick, etc. I seriously doubt it.

MARTIN BRUMBY
Reply to  HotScot
September 3, 2022 6:55 pm

But none so blind as those who do not want to see.

Edenhoffer and Figueres have been for once fairly honest, (in a game run by mendacious charlatans), when admitting the entire climate scam has very little to do with the environment and everything to do with destroying Capitalism.

Those quotations aren’t all that hard to find, but don’t seem to come up very often in discussions.

Janice Moore
September 3, 2022 3:09 pm

It is disappointing disgusting that her views are showcased in a publication that is supposed to focus on chemistry and chemical, not social, engineering.

Bill Capron
September 3, 2022 3:17 pm

I’ve heard of mansplaining; is this dumb-sh*t-splaining? Next thing she’ll be doing color-analysis on NFL football.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Bill Capron
September 3, 2022 5:39 pm

I’m reminded of the section in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy after the B Ark has crashed on the primordial Earth. The weekly meeting of those assigned to re-invent fundamental tools and machines is chaired by a marketing manager. She shows the latest version of the wheel, which is an octagon with brightly painted triangular sections, with the axle in the same plane as the octagon. Arthur Dent slaps his forehead with his palm and declares, “One of the simplest inventions of mankind and you can’t even get that right.” She takes a wide, authoritative stance, with hands on hips, and petulantly says, “Alright, if you’re so smart, what color would you paint it?”

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KcTaz
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
September 3, 2022 11:00 pm

That’s funny! Thank you. After reading this woman’s abject stupidity, I needed a good laugh. 

observa
September 3, 2022 3:42 pm

Well all these scientific institutions are simply part of the old white guy power establishment and need to be torn down and junked in favour of the omniscient activist lobbyists who can see the true light and the way-
IPCC reports are a climate science beacon. So why do these scientists say they have to stop? (msn.com)

KcTaz
Reply to  observa
September 3, 2022 11:13 pm

I read your linked article. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. 
“…The researchers haven’t called carte blanche for a strike against the IPCC — each author has their own perspectives on how science should proceed — but broadly, they’re asking for the international science community to step back and reassess how best to do climate science in the context of that “broken contract”.
Responses to their paper have been mixed.”
This is the laughing part. Of course, these charlatans have no intention of giving up the filthy money they get for pretending to save the world. Hilarious.
If only they would go on strike. Would anyone even notice if they did? I doubt it.

Ken
September 3, 2022 4:24 pm

Fossil fuels do much more than simply provide the power for the vehicles as they are made into many different items. Ms. Buck likely doesn’t know that much of her wardrobe and personal cosmetics are made from those fossil fuels.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Ken
September 4, 2022 1:22 am

I have a dream that one day one of these activists agrees to immedeately and forever give up everything in their life made from or using fossil fuel.

Then I wake up

When the Home Counties Troll here won’t even run his life synchronised to wind power there are only two explanations ignorance (ack of knowledge, education, or awareness) or hypocrisy. The former can be fixed, hypocrisy not so easily

H. D. Hoese
September 3, 2022 4:47 pm

It’s not just sociologists publishing sociology in scientific journals.
Harris, L., et al. A Socio-ecological Imperative for Broadening Participation in Coastal and Estuarine Research and Management. Estuaries and Coasts 45, 38–48 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s12237-021-00944-z Open access

From the abstract –“More broadly, the mechanisms described here aim to create a culture in scientific societies in which social justice, driven by anti-racist actions, produces systemic change in how members of scientific societies approach, discuss, and address issues of inequity. ” Concerning “Representational diversity, Structural diversity, Interactional diversity, Social inclusion, Exclusionary science, Club science, Compliance science, Transformational science. ”

Used to be a long time member, (Journal of the Coastal and Estuarine Research Federation) touts itself as– “It publishes original research on the hydrodynamics, hydrology, (geo)chemistry, geology, biology and their interactions in marine waters influenced by connectivity to land. The journal’s geographic scope includes coastal watersheds, tidal rivers, estuaries, lagoons, inland seas, wetlands, and near-shore coastal waters from polar to equatorial latitudes.” Authors of the above paper are all ‘marine scientists,’ maybe just being pandered to. Again, juvenile lack of homework, faddish behavior. It raises the question whether they are the ones at fault.They know not who they insult.

observa
Reply to  H. D. Hoese
September 3, 2022 8:28 pm

 the mechanisms described here aim to create a culture in scientific societies in which social justice, driven by anti-racist actions, produces systemic change in how members of scientific societies approach, discuss, and address issues of inequity.

Some whitefella nuclear science unlocks the truly amazing-
Nuclear science unlocks Indigenous past (msn.com)

Indigenous Australians not only survived but thrived as they faced environmental changes in climate, sea level and vegetation over 65,000 years, a study has found. 

But now of course because they’re driving around in Toyota Landcruisers with electricity for refrigerators for farmed tucker and cooking, reticulated water and sewer, modern medicine, etc, etc they’re clearly doomed according to those worshipping a long dead bearded old white guy.

KcTaz
Reply to  observa
September 3, 2022 11:25 pm

It seems the Aborigines were not the original people and, in fact, arrived quite recently in anthropogenic time.
Modern Aborigines migrated to Australia from India 4230 years ago
https://bit.ly/3P1wyrg
Archaeologists in 1973 decided to look for campsites and other evidence on the Cape, finding fireplaces and middens. Although unreliable, carbon dating of shells and other organic matter was used…
https://cairnsnews.org/2019/11/10/modern-aborigines-migrated-to-australia-from-india-4230-years-ago/
Also, here.
We refer you to the study below of DNA analysis of gene flow by Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany.
https://www.mpg.de/6818105/Holocene-gene-flow_India-Australia

This has lots of fun facts about the original inhabitants of Aus. It seems the Aborigines killed them off. Oops!

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  KcTaz
September 4, 2022 9:20 pm

Mark Twain remarked that there is not a square foot of land on Earth still in possession of the original inhabitants.

Mark Shulgasser
September 3, 2022 4:55 pm

One wonders how much student debt she has.

Scissor
Reply to  Mark Shulgasser
September 3, 2022 5:57 pm

I would characterize it as an intellectual deficit.

Janice Moore
September 3, 2022 5:00 pm

Goal 1
Provide Information Solutions
Deliver indispensable chemistry-related information solutions to address global challenges and other issues facing the world’s scientific community.
ACS will be the most trusted source of chemistry-related information solutions.

The Society will provide products and services including high-quality publications, curated databases, and scientific conferences that advance the practice of chemistry and related sciences.

Through customer collaborations, transformative technologies, and industry best practices, ACS will leverage its information products and services to offer the most authoritative and indispensable knowledge-based* solutions for chemical professionals addressing the world’s challenges.

American Chemical Society

(emphases mine)

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/about/strategicplan.html

*I assume this means data and observation-based, not speculation based as is the conjecture that human CO2 emissions cause enduring, significant, shifts in the earth’s climate zones.

Scissor
Reply to  Janice Moore
September 3, 2022 6:02 pm

For the most part, chemists still use the scientific method. That hasn’t stopped the cultural creep of “settled” narratives into the industry, especially within academia.

RickWill
September 3, 2022 5:23 pm

fossil fuels such as coal, oil and gas in layers and crevices beneath the Earth’s surface act as an insulating blanket, trapping heat from the planet’s interior. 

That is an excellent example of the phrase “clutching at straws”.

New Zealand needs to knock this one on the head – they are deliberately tapping into the geothermal resource to produce electricity, which ultimately ends up as heat.

Someone has paid to have this tripe produced. It would be educational for me to see how someone presents this as an idea worthy of funding.

MarkW
Reply to  RickWill
September 4, 2022 7:28 am

Geothermal would have ended up as heat even if it had not been tapped.

RevJay4
September 3, 2022 6:21 pm

Another useless idiot with a degree in an academic area where viable jobs are scarce. So she chooses to blather on about something where she has no expertise. Like a whole lot of the other useless idiots. If the government didn’t pay her, she’d be flipping burgers.

MARTIN BRUMBY
Reply to  RevJay4
September 3, 2022 7:14 pm

Don’t be mean to the poor girl. After all, when a moron like John Browne gets to control British Petroleum and turn it into “Beyond Petroleum”, you have to admit that the march through the institutions is doing pretty well.

So when one Granddaughter in New Zealand decides to train as an Engineer and another in the UK wants to go into steel fabrication, I feel proud in some respects, but wonder if studying how ‘white microaggressions adversely affect the unicorn community’, might prove to be an easier and more secure career path.

But on balance I hope this anxiety will prove to be yet another reminder that extrapolating from recent data doesn’t always work out.

Graemethecat
Reply to  MARTIN BRUMBY
September 4, 2022 12:09 am

Fifty years hence, the World will still need Mechanical Engineers and Steel Fabricators, but Woke drivel will be a thing of the past. All fads come to an end eventually, and the fact that people are beginning to ridicule Wokism is a sign this one is on the way out.

MarkW
Reply to  Graemethecat
September 4, 2022 7:31 am

Woke drivel has always been with us, and probably always will be. It just changes form, from generation to generation.

Gunga Din
September 3, 2022 6:52 pm

Here’s a quote from one her articles:

Carbon removal can fit into the Green New Deal

Carbon removal could easily be one part of an international Green New Deal. Looking at the US resolution introduced by Representative Ocasio-Cortez in 2019, many goals are compatible with progressive biological and geological carbon removal:

https://progressive.international/blueprint/46253391-5b3d-4e68-bd3f-d53dc54180fd-holly-jean-buck-how-to-decolonize-the-atmosphere/en

John Hultquist
September 3, 2022 8:25 pm

 The world is made of protons, electrons, and morons.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Hultquist
September 4, 2022 9:23 pm

You left out the quirks.

lee riffee
September 3, 2022 8:27 pm

Second, Buck claims that fossil fuels help underwrite corrupt and oppressive governments”
Hmmm….sounds like Ms.Buck has no understanding of history. Apparently, as far as she is concerned, oppressive and corrupt governments were never a thing until fossil fuels were discovered, And before fossil fuels, there were no commodities for people to fight wars and seek conquest over. Yeah, right….
Let’s see – how many rulers and nations in history have sought out gold? For one, the Spanish came to North America seeking gold and in the process wreaked all sorts of havoc on indigenous residents of central and South America. Gold funded the destruction and change of those indigenous cultures. So does that mean we should stop mining gold? And stop using it? Just because it sparks greed, conquest and oppression in some people?
Seriously, as if the world would be all peaceful (aka John Lennon “Imagine” style….) if we had no fossil fuels?
Wow, just wow….people have been fighting over and lording over each other with resources for eons. Heck, even animals fight bloody battles over food, mates and territories.

Gunga Din
Reply to  lee riffee
September 4, 2022 12:42 pm

It also sounds like she considers The USA and other western Governments to be among the “oppressive” Governments.
She’s a progressive. She hates “capitalism” (free enterprise, if you prefer that), the idea that people who work are allowed to buy what they want and need and that those who supply the product or service actually make a financial profit.
(She likely deplores The Bill of Rights.)

Bob
September 3, 2022 8:35 pm

She is one more crackpot in a long line of crackpots, spreading lies and throwing out so called science with no facts or figures to back them up. She is the type of person I distrust and dislike. We need to contact Mike Rowe and line her up for a real job.

Hans Erren
September 4, 2022 3:40 am
Earthling2
September 4, 2022 8:10 am

She had me at “Fossil fuel extraction could be contributing to climate change by heating Earth from within,” Rizwan Nawaz and Adel Sharif claim that “heat from the earth’s interior could be contributing to rising temperatures. 

Never heard that one before, and if geothermal only counts for a fraction of a fraction percentage to the surface temperature, then this mechanism of further heating by extracting oil and gas is really absurd. For that to be her first point on why extracting oil and gas is bad tells me she is completely ignorant on general knowledge, of which she is claiming to be an expert on with her sociology degree as a professor in environment and sustainability.

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Earthling2
September 4, 2022 9:26 pm

I think that anyone who has an educational loan, and took a course from this person (or someone like her) deserves a refund.

September 5, 2022 4:04 am

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