Essay by Eric Worrall
Once again the promised climate cash has not been delivered.
Climate change: Bonn talks end in acrimony over compensation
By Matt McGrath
Environment correspondent, BonnTwo weeks of climate talks in Germany have ended in acrimony between rich and poor countries over cash for climate damage.
Developing countries say they are reeling from climate change caused by richer countries’ emissions over hundreds of years.
They hoped to get compensation onto the official agenda for discussions by world leaders in November.
But here in Bonn they couldn’t get the US and the European Union to agree.
“The climate emergency is fast becoming a catastrophe,” said Conrod Hunte, lead negotiator for the Alliance of Small Island States (AOSIS).
“Yet within these walls the process feels out of step with reality, the pace feels too slow,” he told delegates at the end of the meeting.
Developing nations say they need money to deal with the impacts of climate change, because they suffer the effects more than richer nations and have less financial capacity to cope.
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The US and Europe don’t agree. They fear that if they pay for historic emissions it could put their countries on the hook for billions of dollars for decades or even centuries to come.
The issue is termed “loss and damage” and has become a running sore in these negotiations.
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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-61819852
I’m sure things will be different next time. /sarc
That Josh cartoon never loses it impact. Mind you, he’s going to need a bigger graphic to get all those dates in as they roll by.
The dates appear to be scrolling off left-infinity, almost like a Star Wars movie.
Good visual!
It IS a Star Wars movie!
The UN does seem to be heavily influenced by the WaBenzi.
“Loss and Damage” would be difficult to prove in the face of reduced global poverty, increased global food production, global greening, etc.
Exactly, the West could be asking for royalty payments for the free enhanced climate of the current age, on top of those for all the technological advances that make life vastly more livable than that of past ages.
Anyone who disagrees is free to reject any such advancement and live in squalor.
It’s not enough that we give them all of our industry?
At least the talks kept John Kerry preoccupied for two weeks. I guess he’ll now be winging home in his private jet. >sigh<
Kerry says we can’t go back to coal, oil and gas. He didn’t say what we would replace them with.
We are being governed by lunatics.
Not lunatics, idiots.
The funny thing is that, in my opinion, this whole ‘CAGW’ thing was meant to grift money from western citizenry by the elites. Now it’s backfiring as the elites are getting shaken down by the poor countries of this world. It’s hilarious.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the same elites who told the world how evil CO2 is will change their tune now that they’re getting shaken down for money.
Not a problem. Just say no to those brown people and keep on griftin’
What does he plan on using for fuel on his private jets and yachts, I wonder?
Wait a minute, do we think the entire CAGW movement is simply a wealth redistribution scheme? Keep your hand on your wallet when you are around politicians.
The links aren’t working, the page says the file may have been deleted.
Better off just using the image after it’s been downloaded to your device. (Unless it’s huge)
The links worked for me on two of them. One said it was deleted.
I didn’t see any of your comments.
I only see an icon and a link to a “comment image?dl=0”.
The last time I saw that and explored it, Malwarebytes suggested it might contain a Trojan.
Finally saw the Maurice Strong quote, Brian. He is generally credited with globalizing the “environmental” movement, and in so doing converted the United Nations into the wrong focus. There have only been a few examples where less advanced cultures defeated more advanced cultures, and they relied on barbaric tactics to do so.
(deleted, as I goofed and replied to the wrong message, apologies to Ron Long)
I do that sometimes. 🙂
First they faked a catastrophe. Then they added unknowing victims and convinced them they were due reparations. Now the so called victims are realizing they were used but won’t let go of the reparations they were promised. “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.”
It’s been almost 40 years. I wish those little island nations would just drown and get this over with.
It’s 50 years, almost to the day when the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment kicked off the whole sham (Recommendation 79).
Of course, back then the aim for established countries was not to deprive developing countries of reliable energy.
The earth is still doing its thing, the deprived are still deprived, and the Green elite are still getting richer.
It does not appear that they are going anywhere.
On September 26, 1988, experts predicted the 1,196 islands of the Maldives would drown in the next thirty years. That date has passed, and they only missed by 1,196 islands.
https://bit.ly/3wpW54f
10/2/18
Patterns of island change and persistence offer alternate adaptation pathways for atoll nations | Nature Communications
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EVEN the climate-hysterical ABC’s ‘fact’ check unit agrees!

Is the Pacific island nation of Tuvalu growing, and not sinking, as Craig Kelly says? – Fact Check – ABC News
https://ab.co/3nPz0nN
Germany is completely screwed.
Next winter has every prospect of being a cold, dark and hungry one for much of Europe and, possibly, parts of the U.S.
“The US and Europe don’t agree.”
My guess is that the Europeans made sure there were arguments as they’ll need the money to get
through next winter. John Kerry would’ve pushed for everything green, regardless of how stupid it is
Send them postcards of hockey sticks showing warming. Then they can burn the card.
I’m in the central US heatwave. Yesterday received an email from the utility company asking us to reduce electrical usage. Specifically mentioned were electric vehicles.
First, no gasoline and now no electricity for those who thought they escaped the gas shortage.
This is Bidenomics in action!
How about instead of customers reducing their usage, the utility companies build more, reliable electricity generators?
The supplier for my particular part of the grid in the Southwest Power Pool said yesterday that some of their generation capacity was off line but that by Sunday it would be back online and we should not have to worry about electricity shortages after that.
Thank goodness! It’s hot around here! 🙂
Why do I get the image … of inviting a whole troupe of ‘representatives’ from the garbage-pickers of Lagos, Sao Paulo, Cairo, Bogota, Mumbai and 30 other MegaSlums to the Buffet of Absurdly Rich Peoples, and they’re mighty unhappy that the buffet is, ah, thin. Almost gone. No gold-leaf covered honeyed sweetmeats.
That’s a bit harsh, in ref. to “garbage pickers”. But I know you meant to denigrate not the poor citizens, but the kleptaucracy (did I spell that right?) that runs the countries of those cities, sucking all the wealth to themselves, and now they are showing up wanting ‘restitution’ and ‘aid’ for their countries, monies that will mostly end up in their private accounts, like all other previous aid.
In the urban dictionary, “klept” means “the act of stealing something”, so your spelling may have been off, but your definition was spot on.
Kleptocracy
Kleptocracy
Here let Brandon tell you about it.
https://youtu.be/XYu6RgA8yis
It is nor news anymore, I didn’t even know there were talks going on…
TBH, me neither
Me, either.
It never stops.
The COPS are simply the “show”
Like there is an Olympics every 4 years but there are endless meets and championships for the other 3.99 years
No loss and no damage means no money. Simples. Won’t ever change.
Same basic issue as the public nuisance lawsuit tactics in the US: no damage means no damages and no provable imminent damage means no injunctive relief—no matter what the gullible children fear.
Arctic summer sea ice didn’t disappear.
Sea level rise hasn’t accelerated.
The modeled tropical troposphere hotspot hasn’t emerged.
Weather extremes haven’t increased.
Tropical Pacific islands haven’t shrunk in size.
Yet the climate scammers haven’t stopped pretending otherwise.
Never give up the con.
Spoken like a modern, rational person that relies on facts and reason.
However, we’re in the post-modern period where it’s all about politics and power, model results have more weight than reality.
Sort of like the post-Empire phases (West and East) and the Vandals and the Turks, respectively, at the gates. And they want our stuff, or what little we have left after decades of socialism.
Rud,
Am I correct in believing the “Loss and Damage” claim is quite distinct from and additional to the Green Climate Fund (GCF) which I recall went broke in May 2019?
The GCF was supposed to raise $100 billion under the Paris Accord and at Glasgow President Biden promised US$15 billion.
Whether Congress funds that seems dubious.
Australia actually foolishly paid $350 million under Turnbull PM but Morrison PM cancelled future contributions.
Under a new Labor Government I am
afraid we will be suckered for more.
But Loss and Damage …..!
Here’s your money. Now go pick it up on the Donbas front.
““The climate emergency is fast becoming a catastrophe,” – how can the delegates say such garbage without even one journalist calling out the hyperbole and stupidity?
They got that line from the journalists.
Good one!
In a sense it is correct. The ‘climate emergency’ has transferred no money to these climate beggars. For them, that is fast becoming a catastrophe. They won’t be able to afford their luxury suites and gourmet dinners at the next confab.
Or their private jets and R-R.
The UN project is to redistribute wealth from wealthy countries to poorer ones using climate alarmism as the vehicle. If the wealthier countries destroy their sources of wealth in the process, e.g. Industry, commerce, business confidence, reliable energy, etc, then such levelling down is a bonus.
COP26 illustrated the process in action. Poor countries listed catastrophic threats and hardship due to climate change. Wealthy countries were pressed to pledge money and emission reductions that would effectively negatively impact their wealth. It was bartering about alleged damages and reparation.
Conveniently, the UN agencies WMO, IPCC and WCRP effectively control the assessment of climate, climate science and climate models respectively.
Our governments effectively cede climate policy to the UN. As people here are aware, the IPCC is concerned only with the assumption that CO2 is catastrophic for our climate. This is why developments in science such as effects of clouds, ocean oscillations, band saturation and solar cycles never get on to any government scientific agenda.
“The climate emergency is fast becoming a catastrophe,” said Conrod Hunte, lead negotiator for the Alliance of Small Island States (AOSIS)
Are those the same island where they are building new airstrips to welcome the tourists they also want? But how can they expect tourists to come when the situation is rapidly becoming catastrophic?
Cognitive dissonance is what Conrod suffers from. Poor sod.
They are probably running out of fresh H2O to water and bathe those tourists.
Meanwhile France and Germany are shorting the Ukrainians on aid. scumbags
Who’s Really Sending Aid to Ukraine? – WSJ
A new working report from the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute, sheds light on the issue. It’s clear that many countries are significantly helping Ukraine while others are mostly talking since the war began.
The U.S. remains the biggest overall contributor, with €42.7 billion, or about half of the commitments, while the EU has ponied up €27.2 billion across countries and European institutions. “It is remarkable that the US alone has committed considerably more than all EU countries combined, in whose immediate neighborhood the war is raging,” the paper notes.
Commitments are also distinct from what actually arrives. Washington has delivered only 48% of its disclosed “military in-kind aid”—that is, military assistance that excludes financial aid for military purposes. (The nearby chart shows the relative amount of military-in-kind aid through June 7.) Only some 10% of American aid comes directly in the form of material or equipment like missiles or helicopters, but the U.S. still outpaces every other nation. Poland is a close second, having sent all of what it promised. It’s followed by the United Kingdom, Canada, Norway, Estonia and Latvia.
This is where it gets embarrassing for Europe’s biggest economies. Latvia—with a population of 1.8 million and a gross domestic product comparable to Vermont’s—apparently has delivered more than Germany, France and Italy. The paper warns that there may be “hidden support” but that “these countries ultimately revealed the value of most of their military aid.”
Ukraine is a dumpster fire. Now what was Obama doing there 🤔
Simon is really smart maybe he can tell us once he is done riding tricycle.
“Now what was Obama doing there”
Maybe the new Republican House will look into it. They should. And Biden was heavily involved. Yes, this should be looked into.
“This is where it gets embarrassing for Europe’s biggest economies. Latvia—with a population of 1.8 million and a gross domestic product comparable to Vermont’s—apparently has delivered more than Germany, France and Italy.”
I wonder what ole Putin thinks when he sees this? I bet this encourages him and makes him think he is on the right track and that eventually he will prevail over this weak response from the West. Putin is starting to think about which nation he should attack next.
Appeasement/weakness only emboldens murderous dictators. All the murderous dictators of the world are watching to see what they can get away with. What is the West going to let them get away with? That is the question.
Pay me now, in Ukraine, or pay me later in your hometown.
The Latvians as a former Socjet Union member state possessed waeapons fitting in the Ukranian military apparatus. France and Germany do not.
You are very dim if you believe that Russia has any intentions beyond liberating the Luhansk and Donbas region. I would expect the mission to be accomplished by late summer as their tactics of using their superior artillery to grind the Ukrainian army into the dust are working well. Then they will fortify the new border and good luck if Ukraine wants to attack as you can expect your death toll to soar.
“You are very dim if you believe that Russia has any intentions beyond liberating the Luhansk and Donbas region.”
I hope you are correct, but if you give a murderous dictator like Putin an inch, he will take a mile.
Bully psychology is easy to figure out.
He is replying to the murderous Ukrainians who continue to shell Donetsk City and murder civilians. There are no military targets there. It is a terror tactic.
Several in the Russian power structure have already said that after they take Ukraine, they will take Moldova and the Baltics. The Baltics are a tougher nut since they are in NATO, so I don’t know if Putin will go along with those hawks. There is no question that the long-term plan is to fully control Ukraine and then move on. There may be a pause of a couple years if the Russian military is exhausted but, if so, then there will be another invasion. Luhansk and Donetsk are not strategically important enough on their own for Russia to put in all of the effort of this invasion.
Read this again. There are hawks in Russia that want a larger war. Putin and Lavrov are moderates that lean to the West. The fact that Putin is lampooned as a murderous thug shows the idiocy of Western geopolitics.
The Russians no longer care what the West does. The West is not serious about negotiations.
Other than just plain money laundering, the only real effect of the “aid” is to prolong the conflict until the inevitable end.That just means more unnecessary death and destruction as the Ukraine can never get to the negotiating table from a position of strength.
Face it, it’s over. Put a fork in it.
All countries in the world owe their relative prosperity and almost everthing else including ending servitude and their mere existence to the rich countries. Everything. Mainly to “priviledged” white man.
Spot on.
Mostly due to the UK Industrial Revolution, where many generations of “privileged white men” (PWM) worked their nuts off, accompanied by the UK inspired political revolution – free democracy and capitalism. Best system ever (not perfect) for creating wealth and opportunity.
Plus not forgetting the contribution of free democratic PWM’s to saving the world from tyranny. 1914-18 and 1939-45 in case you don’t know or have forgotten.
Sounds like the reparations band wagon all over again
This is not about the promised $100 billion a year. It is about so-called “loss and damage” where we compensate the developing countries for bad weather.
See https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/06/16/fresh-demand-for-u-s-and-e-u-to-transfer-wealth-through-climate-reparations/
Happily dead for now.
CAGW has always been about the money.
Found in the above article: “The climate emergency is fast becoming a catastrophe”
Ho, hum . . . what “climate emergency”?
Who, with any credibility, declared such?
What are the objective facts supporting this declaration?
Where are the associated ambulances, fire trucks, or marshaled military troops, or (heaven forbid) marshaled “scientists” that are responding to this “emergency”?
Who, what group, what formal organization, what nation, what league of nations, is/are going to pay financially for responding to the “climate emergency”?
How much time does humanity have left to prevent arrival of the associated “catastrophe”? . . . Is it one year? . . . before 2025? . . . before 2050? . . . before 2100?
When is the point-of-no-return in the progression of this “emergency”? . . . . Is it one year? . . . before 2025? . . . before 2050? . . . before 2100?
What are the latest “emergency” declarations/response plans from UN Secretary-General António Guterres, President Joe Biden, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senator Bernie Sanders, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Prince Charles, Michael Mann, my town’s sheriff, and my local office of the Red Cross to deal with this situation? Haven’t seen such, and time is flying by.
Sold bold a claim . . . so little supporting data . . . so many missing answers to my questions.
Climate threat is over, the ice age is not coming any time soon.
How much time does humanity have left to prevent arrival of the associated “catastrophe”?
*checks math*. The world ends in 9 years, 11 months. You are doomed.
Source:
in the US, we have an all-knowing, all seeing oracle who goes by the initials of “AOC”
She predicted the End Of The World in 12 years. The date was May 13, 2019.
I hope this helps.
TonyL, did AOC provide a time, or just the date?
I might still be able to squeeze in a brunch buffet before the end of the World. Or maybe a round of golf. That would be nice.
So long as the world goes up in flames any time after 4:30 pm then it’s OK by me.
Ha ha hair!!
Or a 20 overs cricket match on the village green.
With a beer tent of course !!
Re-check math
8 years 10+ months to go.
Nearing the end of the second AOC Administration. (Now there’s a scary thought right there!)
Behind one door you’ll win AOC as President, behind the other door you’ll win the climate catastrophe.
“Monty, I’ll take door #3.”
At least they were not embarrassed by a blizzard of sleet and snow with high winds and freezing temperature. Amazing what money can buy and the lack of cannot buy.
It becomes increasingly awkward as the truth comes out that climate talking points have nothing to do with protecting people or property. That it has nothing to do with social justice, or protecting vulnerable populations from weather related hazards. Where now we’ll see far fewer phrases starting with the words “climate change disproportionally impacts low income ….” blah blah blah. I suspect the press will be directed to use fewer examples from small island states and developing nations moving forward. We shall see if Covering Climate Now updates their directive to exploit the experiences “of the poor, communities of color, and Indigenous people”. Their neo-colonial exploitation in western media is no longer financially or politically beneficial. https://coveringclimatenow.org/resource/climate-reporting-best-practices/
I’m still reeling over the Bland-Allison act of 1878. When you are talking about compensation, time has no limits when blaming what the rich guys did.
1878? Let it go, Doonman. It’s time to let it go.
😉
“…the process seems put of step with reality…”
Isn’t that the entire “climate change” narrative in a nutshell?
CAGW reality brick wall. There is never enough of other people’s money to spend. 😏
From the article: “Developing countries say they are reeling from climate change caused by richer countries’ emissions over hundreds of years.”
Right. “Reeling from climate change”. Sure they are.
The Third World Dictators are complaining the Western Dupes aren’t giving them enough money. That’s what I would be doing if I were a Third World Dictator. Why not? The Western fools might end up paying me.
Wake me when it’s a Colossal Climate Calamity.
Meanwhile climate change did not make the top 10 on the list of reasons Africans want to leave their countries. I’m sure the BBC was upset about that result.
African brain drain: ‘90% of my friends want to leave’ – Velozity
It’s so obvious the West is being scammed. A 5 year old could see it.
Expert’s say the darnedest things if there is government grants or industry funding to be had.
Love the Art Linkletter reference.
3rd world tyrants and dictators want money from the American middle class, which is the largest source of money that exists. Any excuse will do.
Like flies to sh*t. And not one of those flies, wealthy or poor, has any intention of sharing their new found sh*t with anyone else.
I’m sick of the term “developing” countries. They’ve been “developing” for 100 years, and due to socialism and corruption they aren’t improving. Just call them “poor” countries and be done with it.
Give it a few years and we’ll be referring to the countries in Europe and Australia as “developing” countries. Black outs, brown outs, monopoly money, and high unemployment. We already have the small privileged elite.
That news is really bad for our nature
That Josh cartoon never loses it impact. Mind you, he’s going to need a bigger graphic to get all those dates in as they roll by.
It is really scary for me