Essay by Eric Worrall
h/t JoNova; As the USA and Europe retreat from prosperity, India seems determined to overtake China, with a 400 million ton boost to coal production in the next two years, and a massive relaxation of environmental rules and other incentives to boost coal mining and industry.
MAY 11, 2022
India relaxes environment rules for coal mines, citing heatwave
India has relaxed environmental compliance rules for coal mines seeking to ramp up production as power outages exacerbate a sweltering heatwave, a government notice showed.
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In a letter dated May 7 seen by AFP, the Environment Ministry said it has allowed a “special dispensation” to the Ministry of Coal to relax certain requirements—like public consultations—so mines could operate at increased capacities.
The relaxation comes after it received a request from the Ministry of Coal “stating that there is huge pressure on domestic coal supply in the country and all efforts are being made to meet the demand of coal for all sectors”.
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Most of its needs are met by domestic producers, with a record 777 million tonnes mined in the fiscal year to the end of March.
The shortfall is imported from countries like Indonesia, Australia and South Africa.
The government says it plans to increase domestic coal production to 1.2 billion tonnes in the next two years to support a post-pandemic economic recovery.
Despite a commitment to increase its renewable energy capacity to 175 gigawatts by 2022 and 500 gigawatts by 2030, Coal and Mines Minister Pralhad Joshi said Friday that India’s coal needs are set to double by 2040.
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Read more: https://phys.org/news/2022-05-india-environment-coal-citing-heatwave.html
What can I say. RIP Net Zero.
There’s no need for the world to worry about net zero. Here in NZ, we’re forging ahead with our emissions reduction idiocy, aah, policy. I’m sure our reductions will eclipse these miniscule increases by India.
Buy your NZ lamb while you still can though.
We can save the planet together.
As I understand it, The Planet will be sending Christmas cards this year to everyone who is trying to save it.
Anyone who doesn’t get a Christmas card this year from The Planet is obviously not trying hard enough.
Smarmy, nonsensical. Especially since it’s based on the belief system of almost total ignorance.
“Buy your NZ lamb while you still can though.”
Hey ?? I thought NZ had changed over to farming termites and other bugs. !
I’m glad to see someone in this world still has some common sense!
No. Not India! All those little brown people are going to cook themselves. One point four billion climate refugees are going to invade Canada! Oh, the humanity!
Or so the flagellate warmunists will say. I’m glad it’s not my racist fault any more. Me and my F150 are not the chief meanies, and I expect the barking and howling to move away from my door forthwith.
Fifthwith, even.
Comment demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of global warming, climate change and those who DO understand it, morphing an idiotic, fact-free opinion into a pejorative description of people and a movement you don’t grasp because you don’t have the brains to do so. Simply put, you’re not smart enough to understand what many other people understand a lot better than you.
If you’re SOOOO smart why don’t you get a climate science degree and prove it all “wrong” instead of sitting in your little armchair F-150, harping and feeling jealous of people so much smarter than you??
The fact there are almost no conservatives smart enough to become scientists or doctors (except quacks like Oz, who hawks known fraudulent products like Garcinia Cambogia to unwitting, anti-science dupes) speaks volumes!
The very ads that appear on this site reveal the desperate, mental-illness-driven fear and stupidity of its audience. There’s NO DEMONSTRABLE NEED for survivalist food, survivalist equipment, guns and everything else you under-educated conservative snowflakes ❄️ 🌨 ❄️ 🌨 are SSOOOO DESPERATELY worried about.
REALLY…Did Obama invade Wyoming and Oklahoma and take everyone’s guns?? Because that’s what many idiots 🤤🤤🤤and conspiracy theorists were SERIOUSLY worried about🙄🙄, including weirdo Chuck Norris. 😜
Last I read, gun sales have only gone up and up and up since COVID-19 began and NO signs of slowing down, and absolutely no confiscations by the federal government — unless someone barricaded themselves in a building and was shooting up people and threatening suicide.
OF COURSE, murders, homicides and gun accidents are up and up too.
Because we all know that it’s not only people who kill people, it’s people w EASY ACCESS to GUNS who mostly kill. Other nations have a much much lower incidence of homicide than us, and it’s almost all due to the guns.
If climate sceptics are stupid, and dont understand, why don’t you set out the evidence for us, you know as if you were talking to five year olds. Why does a slight increase in a fractional atmospheric gas mean is it goign to kill us all in 20 years. Thanks in advance.
You left out your support of abortion … as a means of planetary population control … along with your hatred of citizen rights to bear arms in a FREE society. And that’s the rub, isn’t it? All you super-smart (sic) “Environmental Studies” (and “Gender Studies”) graduates just cannot stand FREE societies, eh? You all LOVE Dear Leader, Xi’s basic dictatorship … as Justin Trudeau does.
Thank you for the glimpse into the the mind of a dedicated cultist. You are very scary people.
India will need the electricity as china is on the way out. Out to rival North Korea as the most despotic place on earth.
But both China and North Korea are surviving and seem likely to do so for a good while yet . It is USA which seems to be tearing itself into little pieces, for the winds of change to blow away, like the tumbleweed in a deserted western town. And the covid nonsense, the blatant corruption of our political leaders and the crass , slobbish incompetence of our PM have done for Old England .
The Biden-handlers fanatic, wacko, woke, idiots in Washington, DC, are tearing the US into pieces, but that will be slowed down after November 2022, and reversed after 2024, via MAGA
we still have months ’til elections and then 2 months more before installation. Then the slow legislative process begins and the dims will likely have enough to block much of it and uphold bidet vetoes. And the individual States are in play. I believe the dims will use gas shortages and covid to push mail in ballots and cheat again.
We are so screwed.
But, but, but … “SAFETY”! … don’t you want the government to keep you safe from all those MAGA people who have refused to get vaccinated let alone double boosted? Don’t you want to be kept “SAFE”! from people who have taken off their masks?
/sarc.
You meant to say Ultra-MAGA (sic). Focus groups told Biden’s puppeteer’s that was THE scariest label for the 23% of people who report Biden is doing a swell job with/to America
‘Modern’ British corruption and incompetence really kicked in 25 years ago in the Blair administration. In particular the infestation of the Common Purpose movement in our public bodies. Even with a majority of 80, the Tories can’t do anything that the unions and the civil servants agree with. Then there’s the backstop of the House of Lords to stymie all progress if it escapes the first two. Boris is a weak leader, and too tied to the Biden Administration, but responsible for the mess.? Not in totality…
1.2 billion tonnes of coal will be mined annually in India up from 700 million currently. That uplift will happen in just the next two years.
Makes the UK’s coal reduction effort seem pointless doesn’t it.
We managed to mine about 4.5 million tonnes last year and imported about the same amount.
I think it’s net zero if you import it. Am I missing something?
Nothing about the UK’s policy on climate is logical, at least to a scientist who is concerned about the real facts that science has determined in relation to potential CO2 effects on future and historical global temperatures. They are basically that CO2 has little involvement in the process of global climate change, most climate events are related to natural solar and earth dynamic phenomena outside any human control or influence, so we are kidding ourselves that NZE and related reductions in human industry will have any measurable effect on climate. They will however create long term impoverishment for the general populace and energy users that will decrease employment in heavy industry that will effect exports.
Some clarity needs to be attained in both Government and public service that the alarmist claims by the climate lobby have little basis in fact, are overreach and mostly emotive pandering to élite environmental and doomsday anti human cults.
We should instead look to enabling further human prosperity by regaining stable, reliable and economic energy for all, opening up markets well beyond the self defeating EU clique. To achieve this, the UK should get rid of Boris or alternatively reduce the dire influence of his crazy climate alarmist wife Carrie, the man may then be able to think rationally about where the UK is heading. Here’s hoping for the best!
You would guess that India would go for solar. Plenty of sun, power consumption for airconditioning during the daytime (and if used to generate ice during also during the night) and large wasteland surfaces available. If solar gets a bit cheaper it should be the economic solution for India. Mining and burning coal is generally poluting and therefore not desirable.
India is not quite stupid enough to go solar, because it cannot afford solar, and it prefers to have electricity at night when the sun is not shining, because it certainly cannot afford batteries to provide electricity while the sun is sleeping
Alexander, what you suggest is happening in Africa. It’s not working.
I live off grid. Here I sit, the overcast sky produced no electricity today. There is no wind. Same tomorrow, thank goodness for backup generators.
I live near a coal power station just over from a huge coal port. The forests and reefs are thriving, the wild life amazing. Never fear, our green Gov is going to clear the forests, get rid of the wild life, to build wind and Solar farms.
As for wasteland, we are talking India. There is no such thing as waste land, only land suitable for different purposes.
India wants a higher standard of living for the poor.
Solar has to get a hell of a lot cheaper to offset the gigantic cost of batteries.
Why is this so hard for the renewables crowd to understand?
They haven’t figured out how to buy a $4.99 calculator yet, let alone how to use it.
They’re still at the level of making cardboard signs that read “I believe in science”.
Liberals have a tremendous talent for rejecting anything that doesn’t fit their preconceived notions. Sunshine and breezes are free. Therefore, they have to be the cheapest source of energy and anyone that disagrees should be forced into silence. Grid scale battery packets, for a few days of cloudy and calm, cost $10x more than the panels and turbines. If the batteries were free, storage would still be too expensive, $5x. The site prep, labor, enclosures, switchgear, overcurrent protection, fire suppression, interconnecting circuits and more add slightly more costly than the batteries. $175kWh, batteries, $196Wh “other stuff”. When I point out these facts to Quora commenters they simply say, “wind and solar is now cheaper than fossil fuels”, and add personal attacks: oil company shrill, caveman, dinosaur, and of course denier.
It’s simple mate, they don’t want to know the real costs, without the huge subsidies renewable cannot compete. No batteries can replace reliable constant energy for other dispatchable sources for more than several hours maximum, we just haven’t invented a really good battery yet. This renewables technology is now outdated for genuine large area grid power sources, except in local remote situations where rooftop solar works.
Hydro power is a different creature, widely applicable to tropical Africa, but has limited scope in drier sub-Sahara countries, these places need coal, oil or nuclear power supplies. Africa should be allowed to join the modern developed world by giving it modern energy supply and industry, not fester in unreliable renewables in order to keep the consciences of the progressive elites in western society clear in their deluded climate alarmist stasis.
The construction of solar panels is far more polluting than coal.
Alexander, did you type your nonsense comment on a Net Zero Computer? No? Get back to us when you have that special computer (like never).
India will go solar and coal to meet growth needs. Get over it.
India will go COAL coal, coal, nuclear, some NG, some hydro, and maybe a wee bit of solar and wind.
Alex you are deluded mate! Renewables particularly solar are cheap for 4 hours around midday then its decline into nothing every day and night. India needs the reliable 24hr energy that coal and nuclear provide to grow their economy and prosperity, just like we did, do you want to deny them their place in the sun??
Incidentally, you obviously have no idea about the science of climate change and the fact that CO2 has almost nothing to do with global temperature change, so fossil fuel emissions are a total furphy in relation to future climate, that is all a political subterfuge by the UN to allow them more control on global governance. If you don’t believe me check out the UN IPCC reports for policy makers, and deranged utterances from Christine Figures and colleagues.
India has been trying to boost domestic coal production for a decade – to reduce/replace imports.
That’s the entirety of this story.
griff,
Carmichael Coal mine is a $16.5 billion investment in the Galilee basin in Queensland owned by billionaire Gautam Adani’s company.
Adani has a personal worth of some $90 billion and is reportedly Asia’s wealthiest man.
The coal is exported from Hay Point to India in increasing volumes despite every conceivable attempt by banks, financiers and climate zealots to throttle financing.
There is a little more to this story than domestic production in India.
Griff is absolutely correct here.
Griff, don’t you just hate it when we agree??
Isn’t it fun being agreeable? 😮
Massive increase in coal USE..
Learn to read, griff.
It’s okay Russia will have plenty of coal and gas which India will take as they have already started.
India has been trying to do that with state owned coal. That’s the entirety of the backstory.
It’s called economic growth Griff. That’s something foreign to agenda trolls in no-growth countries.
The truth challenges griffter’s twisted view of the world. Griffter has falsely claimed that only China is expanding the use of coal. Now he’s falsely claiming that India is only increasing coal production to displace coal imports. No griffter, that’s ANOTHER one of your lies. India is building new coal fired power plants.
India is becoming an industrial powerhouse.
…and nations will find them a more reliable partner than China.
David A,
whilst I’m sure that’s true, it is a bit like saying David Beckham [a footballer] is a better cook than his dog.
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Griff
One wonders whether the Guardian considers this one of its ‘carbon bombs’.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/12/oil-gas-mega-projects-climate-iea-fatih-birol-carbon-bombs-global-energy-crisis-fossil-fuel
No, its just oil and gas that are carbon bombs and going to produce climate chaos. Especially in the West. China and India can burn all the coal they like, the climate will know this is coming up from the righteous and will neutralize its effects.
Coal, you see, is wicked in some contexts, like when the UK burns it or Australia mines it. But it becomes righteous when China or India burn it. It probably has something to do with imperialism, colonialism, racism, trans phobia, Islamophobia.
Oh, wait a minute, it can’t be the last, can it? I mean, China does Islamophobia in spades.
Our heads are hurting.
The Guardian failed to mention India’s growing coal, oil and gas imports from Russia, AT A DISCOUNT.
…and Europe’s growing imports of same from countries other than Russia AT A PREMIUM.
Black Mines Matter.
Good one! Thanks
And as the populations of India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan grow exponentially (as the Hindus and Muslims try to outbreed each – the idiots), the demand for cheap and reliable energy i.e. coal will take the same trajectory. At least this will have little or no effect on the climate.
The fertility rates of India and Bangladesh are below the population replacement level of 2.1. Pakistan’s fertility rate is currently 3.46 but falling fast. Africa is the continent with high fertility rates with a projected population of 2.5 billion by 2050. By then, Africa will probably have more coal fired power stations than India. Of course, this means that any reductions in coal power in the developed world will be utterly pointless.
Stillborn. During the first days in the first trimester. A complete lack of viability.
Net Zero is a Pipedream.
It’s a slogan.
It has no chance of becoming reality.
Fortunately, there is no reason to go to Net Zero. There is no need to reduce a benign gas, which is essential for life, like CO2.
Worker shortages are slowing much needed coal production..
… as demand just continues to increase.
https://climatechangedispatch.com/coal-mines-struggle-from-worker-shortage-as-demand-soars-worldwide/
They can’t get it out of the ground fast enough !
Perhaps Griff could try a job as a coal miner. Imagine that
Good for India! However China’s coal burn is over 4 billion tpy so way beyond India’s stated goals out to 2040.
Clear evidence that sane elected governments will choose reality over fantasy when necessity dictates.
Kindly list any sane, elected governments… thanks. One sane action does not count.
Shame we in Britain don’t follow suit !!!!! Would bring our energy bills down and a lot else besides !!!
Easy come and easy go in between beachside money laundering COP conferences.
California and the UK will mine bitcoin instead and push fake social media account numbers for valuations to make money and support modern living standards by fraud.
California is very successful mining the Washington DC Swamp. The UK is just ….out of luck.
NZ has been importing dirty low grade coal from Indonesia to fire up Huntly
“New Zealand likely to have ‘record high imports’ of coal in 2021 – officials” 26 July 2021https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/447679/new-zealand-likely-to-have-record-high-imports-of-coal-in-2021-officials
Of course July 2021 was before the world thermal coal price went into some outer galaxie – I just checked here https://tradingeconomics.com/commodities
and it was up again to US$391t – $Three hundred and ninety-one US Greenbacks.
I am sure NZ could find plenty enough tons to mine and keep Huntly churning out electricity if they tried – imagine the woke Gov apoplexy –
Net Positive effect… fertilize, energize, reproduce, green the Earth, emit.
We’ve known this would happen….exactly…… since reading the 2015 (fake) Climate Accord.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/84399/
What we need to aim at is Nett Zero Loonies raving about Global Warming/Climate Change. India will lead the way, with China following close behind.
There you go.. dissing Canada again.
“India, one of the world’s largest greenhouse gas emitters, has ratified the Paris global climate agreement.
“Under the deal, India has committed to ensuring that at least 40% of its electricity will be generated from non-fossil sources by 2030.”
(source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-37536348 , dated 2 Oct 2016)
India is off to a great start on their “commitment”, I see.
The Paris Accord is dead, long live the Paris Accord.
Yes the Paris Accord is dead, thank goodness, except in the minds of the main protagonists the UN, Eu UK, USA democrats and Pacific islanders. Australia has got a bet each way, but hopefully rationally will surface after the election and hard questions will be finally asked about climate science rationality, the need for extreme policies such as Net Zero and the lower reliability of the current national grid due to decades of stupidity and sloth regarding upgrading our fossil fuel and nuclear power sources.
Our nation has endless supplies of all the basic power sources yet we deny ourselves adequate reliable supply due to political intolerance and scientific ignorance – not the lucky country anymore!