Castle Romeo nuclear test (yield 11 Mt) on Bikini Atoll. Russian dictator Vladimir Putin Kremlin.ru, CC BY 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons. Student protestors in 2013.

Did Anyone Notice Today’s Climate Change School Strike?

Essay by Eric Worrall

Real problems, like Putin again threatening to use nuclear weapons to bolster his faltering attack on the Ukraine, are kindof sucking the oxygen from slow news day sensations like student climate change protests.

Climate change protesters charged as demonstrations continue

By Savannah Meacham • Associate Producer
4:04am Mar 26, 2022

Three people have been charged after three separate unauthorised protests in Sydney’s Inner West, South Sydney and Eastern Beaches yesterday.

Following a police operation, which lasted into the evening, a man who had suspended himself from a crane at Port Botany was arrested and taken to Maroubra Police Station.

It came as climate change demonstrations continue for a fourth day and students marched for climate action across Sydney.

Meanwhile, another climate change protester disrupted freight trains in Sydney this morning.

Police attended the scene at Tempe where the demonstrator suspended herself from a pole over the rail bridge at a canal near Qantas Drive.

Another woman, 62, climbed onto a freight train at Marrickville about 10.45am as part of Blockade Australia’s ongoing climate protests.

Students strike for climate action

Earlier today, young people gathered in front of the Prime Minister’s Sydney home to strike for climate action.

Read more: https://www.9news.com.au/national/climate-change-protest-news-australia-demonstrator-suspended-from-bridge-school-walk-out/f0ea0400-04c6-4c63-a056-f5eb5489aba6

Breitbart has reported about a leaked document, which suggests progressives in the Biden administration are pushing for a nuclear response if Putin uses WMD in Ukraine, though Biden has not to my knowledge publicly committed to such a position. Progressives allegedly see going nuclear as a means to deliver Biden a “huge victory” over Russia.

As the world stands on the brink of a possible nuclear war, a few kids protesting about climate change just doesn’t seem important.

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Jeff Labute
March 26, 2022 10:12 pm

I have a better chance of (inadvertently) watching the Oscars.

H.R.
March 26, 2022 10:13 pm

That was today? Missed it.

I did get buzzed by a formation of the Blue Angels, though. I was driving across a long bridge and 4 of the planes in tight diamond formation flew past at 90 degrees to my route, about 300 yards ahead and 300 feet above the roadway.

I can attest… w-a-a-a-y cooler than students protesting ‘Climate Change’.

P.S. Traffic was moderate and going about 60 mph. When they flew by, and you could see ’em coming. traffic slowed to 45 mph, and no one was honking or passing. Everyone wanted a good look.

Jeff Labute
Reply to  H.R.
March 26, 2022 10:21 pm

The Oscars were today, and I had to look that up. Your day was better than mine.

Should give the kids a trophy, they get one for everything else.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Jeff Labute
March 27, 2022 3:53 pm

I thought Oscar Meyers sold year round.
I didn’t know they had an annual Weiner Award.

MarkW
Reply to  Jeff Labute
March 28, 2022 1:58 pm

When did the Oscars merge with MMA?

Ron
Reply to  H.R.
March 27, 2022 2:50 am

Battery powered jets?

H.R.
Reply to  Ron
March 27, 2022 5:14 am

Nahhh… they were burning copious amounts of jet fuel just to entertain folks on the ground and feed the plants.

We don’ need no steenkin’ sparky jets.

Derg
Reply to  H.R.
March 27, 2022 4:52 pm

Were those electric jets 🤓

b.nice
March 26, 2022 10:17 pm

A few ignorant and brainwashed kiddies protesting about a fantasy…

… never was important to any rational mind.

Maybe some in the MSM thought it meant something to someone. !

Steve Case
Reply to  b.nice
March 26, 2022 11:42 pm

It isn’t a few compromised students, it’s a lot, and they’re led by teachers who are financed by taxpayers like you. You won’t regard it as unimportant when your gas is shut off, and rolling blackouts become common. It will get worse. Ultimately these students and their teachers are useful idiots led by people who know exactly what they are doing. The so-called Main Stream Media and the Democrat party are no doubt where the real promoters of climate fantasy and hysteria are to be found.

JCM
March 26, 2022 10:37 pm

The TOA balance concepts have no foundation if we do not also establish the surface balance.

Both boundary conditions are required to understand a change in the atmospheric system.

The top, and the bottom.

Protesting atmospheric gas emission is immaterial and baseless.

At the surface: 

Energy in – Energy out = change in surface energy

Energy in = radiation;

Energy out = radiation plus turbulent fluxes of sensible heat H and latent heat LE.

L = latent heat of vaporization x E = rate of evaporation, LE, like the sweat on your brow in a breeze, cools the surface.

Change of surface energy = (Net radiation) – (H + LE)

Diminish H flux and or LE, increase surface energy budget.

A change in surface energy budget results in a change of temperature.

So, much to the chagrin of radiation wizards, we have pesky H and LE terms that need to be dealt with. 

Sometimes combined, they are termed total turbulent flux.

Total turbulent flux is the primary agent of energy transfer from surface into the atmosphere aloft for atmospheric upward and downward emission.

Total turbulent flux depends on air density, pressure regime dynamics, aerodynamic resistance, vapor pressure differentials, and surface internal flux delivery dynamics (oceanic currents).

I have not seen these terms used in radiation forcing concepts.

So, we have not established a surface boundary condition, and the TOA balance concepts have no foundation.

There is no basis to assume total turbulent flux averages out to a constant over any period of time.

It is conceivable total turbulent flux can account for a large part of forcings distributed among the total flux regime over decades to centuries.

Not least by the connection to low cloud formation, net SW, effective radiating heights, and OLR changes.

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JCM
Reply to  JCM
March 26, 2022 10:59 pm

3 or 4 watts per square meter surface forcing is puny within the chaos of total turbulent flux. From a human scale perspective, all that can be done to cool the surface is restore the wetlands, increase soil moisture holding capacity, and restore some shade. A change to gas emission and IR optical properties is pittance in the realm of energy budgets.

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Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  JCM
March 27, 2022 5:17 pm

Close, but missed it by this much:

1) Latent heat work both ways in Earth’s hydrological cycle, which is itself a very large factor in determining both weather and climate. The latent heat absorbed in moist air (as it evaporates from ocean and land surfaces) reappears in the atmosphere when that same moist air condenses in cloud droplets and precipitation. You made no reference to the latent heat of condensation.

2) Your statement “A change in surface energy budget results in a change of temperature” is simply not true for Earth’s surface due the presence of liquid water and solid ice/snow. A large amount of thermal energy is “tied up” in the latent heat of vaporization of water into water vapor (which can occur at any arbitrary constant surface temperature whenever the air over the water is at less than 100% relative humidity). Similarly, a relatively large amount of thermal energy (334 J/gm) is “tied up” in the latent heat of fusion of water when snow/ice melts at Earth’s constant surface temperature of 0 °C. You made no reference to heat transfers associated with forming or melting of snow/ice (especially as this relates to seasonal variations occurring at Earth’s north and south poles).

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JCM
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
March 31, 2022 7:58 am

LE is a positive value when directed away from the surface (surface evaporation), and a negative value when directed towards the surface (surface condensation). Overall, LE is a net positive flux away from the surface. Any change to surface budget, by changing net radiation flux towards the surface, or net heat flux away from the surface, usually impacts surface temperature. https://denning.atmos.colostate.edu/ats761/Lectures/04.SurfaceEnergyBudget.pdf

High Treason
March 26, 2022 10:41 pm

George street-the main drag of Sydney was shut down for 200 brainwashed (read influenced by the Pied Piper) university students on Friday. Happened to be there (photos available) for my daughter’s graduation. Pretty pathetic numbers to shut down the city. Still, better than the wildcat major road closures they have been doing to create maximum inconvenience to deliberately force their view down our throats.

Elle Webber
Reply to  High Treason
March 27, 2022 12:47 pm

Gosh, in Canada they’d all have their bank accounts seized and been thrown in jail without bail for weeks. Oh my mistake: that kind of dictatorial reaction is only for “right-wing” protests, not the woke causes Trudeau bends a knee for.

Serge Wright
March 26, 2022 11:07 pm

Which all begs the question “why the protest on CC ???”. It seems that there is no greater issue than CC and even the prospect of thermo-nuclear war and the end of humanity comes in a distant last. Even more bizarre is AU is a 1% contributor to global emissions and is taking actions to transition to RE, whereas China is a 30% emitter and ramping up CO2-FF usage for years to come. And, still no protesters outside the Chinese embassy. Go figure !!!

Ron Long
Reply to  Serge Wright
March 27, 2022 3:14 am

“…still no protesters outside the Chinese embassy.” Serge, good comments and makes you wonder what the “climate change” activism is all about, doesn’t it?

Doonman
Reply to  Serge Wright
March 27, 2022 8:18 am

Remember, China only has a 6000 year old culture, nuclear weapons and a space program. They need more time to develop. You cannot protest a developing country like China. It’s not fair.

Mike Lowe
March 26, 2022 11:50 pm

I hesitate to say this, but my impression is that most “climate protesters” are female – especially schoolkids. Does this mean they are less likely to try to understand the science? Much of it is beyond many of us, but enough is easy to understand, so that the activists’ lies are revealed.

Nick Graves
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 3:06 am

I believe it’s something to do with mass formation psychosis – ours seem more susceptible to group pressure to believe nonsense.

I once read a study into the scholastic under-performance of black kids – apparently at junior-school level, it was noted that the black girls were more attentive & diligent than the white ones and consequently tended to out-perform them. Then something happens around puberty and the converse becomes true.

It was supposed that they suddenly became interested in the more consistently disruptive boys and began to emulate them, but it was hardly a scientific conclusion.

Matt Kiro
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 4:46 am

Female teenagers and young women certainly are more affected by social media than any other group. They have huge anxiety issues ( lockdowns didn’t help), I have seen personally and in the studies I’ve come across.

I believe same sex school at some point in older children’s lives is very beneficial. Gets rid of a huge distraction and let’s some kids learn to express themselves better. You still need interaction with the other sex too though, so extended time separated isn’t always the best.

Scissor
Reply to  Nick Graves
March 27, 2022 6:04 am

You guys are old school thinking you can tell males and females apart.

Dean
Reply to  Nick Graves
March 27, 2022 7:08 pm

Heard an interview with Prof Sorrell where he cited a study in Germany after the war where white and black US servicemen had kids which were raised in a neutral society and there was no difference in the kids performance.

Its cultural differences which drive the different results, nothing innate

Ron Long
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 3:27 am

Eric, a review of many apparently scientific studies of the IQ (G Factor of brains) shows some small advantage to men. However, studies also seem to show women gaining fast. The ability of a person to act intelligently, or more accurately, is also heavily influenced by whether or not the area of the brain with good development focuses on the task at hand. For instance, mathematicians and musicians have similar active brain centers, whereas research scientists have enhanced cross hemisphere connections (like Einstein, vision with one side and analyze with the other). For the record, the smartest person I ever worked with was a woman, and it was terrific to have here research, insight, and advice.

Matt Kiro
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 4:58 am

Eric , I’m not sure how much US entertainment shows you consume, but we don’t help encourage our male kids into stem either. Fathers are the comic relief and the kids /mom come up with solutions on family shows. Sports and musicians are pushed as role models. Social media encourage kids to try to get users as some kind of get rich quick scheme. Education seems to be a very minor player in our children’s lives. And if inflation, war and hunger really kick in, it will not get any better as people just try to survive

whiten
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 11:27 am

Yeah, of course odd numbers are the best numbers.
Critical race theory, the best modern theory.

Those who appreciate not this much, are but left behind.
Proletariat rulzz… as in the might of proles.
The hive body has no room at all for individuality, only class and rank file.
The mindless blob…

Where one or at most two sizes fits all, as labels for classification of identity and value for belonging…
crystals all the way down.

cheers

Derg
Reply to  whiten
March 27, 2022 4:58 pm

I listen to a podcast from a guy who says he is with the group African Decedents of Slavery (ADOS) and he is adamantly against CRT because it teaches that black people are victims. He said he wants slavery on equal footing as the Holocaust. Black people are survivors not victims 🤔

whiten
Reply to  Derg
March 27, 2022 5:52 pm

Reverence like love is true only when unconditional..

CRT breeds a lot of unnecessary complex social distorting conditions, with the sole aim of jeopardizing the state of mind and heart towards/against love, reverence and all other human foundational qualities that uphold the human social civic construct,
to harmony, benignity and prosperity… and peace also.

Teaches nothing else but hate and contempt towards any that is different even in the slightest, with not even the slightest tolerance… by ways of nourishing envy and all the urge of it.

Hive body and a mindless blob.

cheers

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Brad-DXT
March 26, 2022 11:52 pm

If Chinese students had climate change protests, I’d like to see them. Something tells me they wouldn’t last long and we would never know.
Come to think of it, I think the climate protests are another Chinese export.

MARTIN BRUMBY
Reply to  Brad-DXT
March 27, 2022 12:31 am

Another Chinese export, of course, paid for by the taxpayers and energy users of the West.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Brad-DXT
March 27, 2022 12:38 am

With over a million men in the Chinese Army, no protests would ever be tolerated, unless it was simply anti-Western!!! The 10,000 plus protesters in Tiananmen Square butchered by the life loving benevolent caring Red Army, on the orders of the CCP, although officially it was just a couple of hundred silly freedom/democracy protesters crushed by overcrowding despite the valiant efforts of the Red Army to protect the dear little things, should be a very loud message to we simpletons in the West!!! Can’t wait to hear the sensational & wonderful news that all of our defence equipment has been outsourced to China, hope the damn things actually work for more than a few trial sales demos!!! I think I want to start a new movement, “Bann the Climate” movement, that way we won’t have to worry about the climate!!! Beautiful clear blue skies here in South-West UK, glorious Devon, oh how boring this Climate Change is, yet another boring breakfast on the beach I have to endure!!! That’s all folks, Sunday morning rant over!!! Take good care my Colonial cousins!!! (We want you back, especially any wine growing regions you happen to have developed!!!). Now, where is my video of that great movie, “It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World”! (Maybe I should just stick to the news channel, it’s the same thing).

Tom Halla
Reply to  Alan the Brit
March 27, 2022 5:08 am

I believe the PRC regards climate protestors as baiguo, useful idiots.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 27, 2022 9:47 am

Bai zuo (literally White Left), not bai guo.

les online
March 27, 2022 12:40 am

Striking over climate change is safe.
The kids would be called Terrorists if they struck over
GMO foods, glyphosate, plastics in their foods, big
pharma drug residues building up in rivers, air
pollution, being imprisoned on school all day.
But maybe climate change protests are a proxy
for other pressing ‘issues ?

MarkW
Reply to  les online
March 27, 2022 7:54 am

I’m still waiting for you to list a pressing issue.

Rod Evans
March 27, 2022 12:43 am

Have these climate protestors no shame or sense of balance?
How could they possibly hold a protest on the same day the Oscar award ceremony is taking place?
Dear, dear Emma, could not possibly fly in from LA to Sydney to protest the pollution of too much flying and get back to LA in time to be an also ran, at the “Luvvies” also ran celebrations.
I am beginning to think the CC alarmists and their useless idiot support groups, are just not being sensible…..
Don’t they realise there are important issues of the day? Those need to be given full uninterrupted coverage. Apparently the Dems had planned for Old Joe to be at the Oscars as the hero of the luvvies and scheduled to give one of his barnstorming rousing speeches to his troops there,
Sadly he was unable to deliver. The puppeteers sent him to somewhere close to Russia to help keep WWIII preparations going….

March 27, 2022 12:53 am

to bolster his faltering attack on the Ukraine

?
Scott Ritter – PSYOPS, Russian Strategy in Ukraine, Not an occupying force

Jay Willis
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
March 27, 2022 3:22 am

Good point Philip. I find it interesting how the logical evidence based philosophy typified by most contributors and commenters on this site with respect to the idiotic climate change narrative, is reversed to a trusting knee jerk subservience to the establishment narrative on Ukraine.

Perhaps it would help to consider Yemen. Where, according to the UN, the aerial bombing campaign of UK and US forces has killed over 400,000 people, mostly children. It continues now.

Contrast that with the careful Russian ground assault of the Ukraine where the UN estimates about 1500 civilians have been killed. I’d suggest most of them being used as human shields by the Ukrainian army, who only a few months ago were recognised as terrorist organisations.

So I think it is stupid and unhelpful to suggest Putin or the Russian state is irrational or evil. Not necessarily honest or good etc, but it is clear where the evil is in this conflict comes from.

Jay Willis
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 4:35 am

The Russian objectives for their invasion have been clearly explained. The Azov Battalion and other neo Nazi groups are fighting from within cities using human shields. That is the logical extrapolation of the known facts. Why else would Russians shell cities? Especially ones like Mariupol which is predominantly a Russian speaking city that is part of the Russian leaning Donesk region.

I’m not saying they are right or good, but I think it is wrong and very dangerous to depict Putin or Russians as mad or evil. Have a look at the many good documentaries made about the Ukrainian neo Nazi groups that were made in 2018 thru 2020. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fy910FG46C4 for instance.

Why has the narrative shifted 180 degrees? All I’m saying is that you should employ the same critical facilities you use in the argument against climate change for the argument against the arms trade and NATO regime change.

richard
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 29, 2022 2:18 am

Iraq was a pre-emptive war based on WMD’s- there weren’t any – Kofi Annan called the war illegal.

The problem is the west has been warned again and again and again what would happen if NATO was pushed to the doors of , Russia. Russia was promised by the West there would be no expansion beyond the borders of Germany after its unification ” not one inch” – this promise has been broken.

Sheesh they never learn!

“In response, the NATO Council, as if to validate everything Putin said, issued a statement at the 2008 NATO Bucharest Summit. Clause 23 of the statement read:

NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO”

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richard
Reply to  richard
March 29, 2022 2:35 am

“In 1990, then-West German Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher gave a keynote speech with regard to German reunification, during which he said:

[T]he changes in Eastern Europe and the German unification process must not lead to an ‘impairment of Soviet security interests.’ Therefore, NATO should rule out an ‘expansion of its territory towards the east, i.e. moving it closer to the Soviet borders.’

richard
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 29, 2022 3:55 am

Do you remember operation’ Shock and awe” – Baghdad was bombed night after night. A million died in a war classed as illegal. In the UK there were calls for , Blair , to be tried for war crimes.

Scissor
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 6:17 am

And if you don’t support the use of nuclear weapons on Putin, you’re anti-nuke.

MarkW
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 7:57 am

So your philosophy is that it is OK to invade a country that has people in it that you don’t like. ANd that’s not evil.

Derg
Reply to  MarkW
March 27, 2022 5:02 pm

Here comes Mark with I want to fight the Russians, but not willing to help people in North Korea, China, Africans nations….

MarkW
Reply to  Derg
March 28, 2022 7:21 am

Here comes Derg with his nonsensical belief that unless you are willing to solve every problem in existence simultaneously, you shouldn’t try to solve any.

richard
Reply to  MarkW
March 29, 2022 2:19 am

the US has done it many times.

Lrp
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 12:02 pm

The Ukrainians are for fighting from within Ukrainian cities. That says it all.

richard
Reply to  Lrp
March 29, 2022 2:19 am

as were all the countries the US invaded.

Scissor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 6:55 am

There’s evil on both sides.

There has been something akin to civil war going on with areas of Ukraine between pro and anti-Russian forces for years.

Tit for tat tends to escalate and given the threats, that’s not likely a good strategy.

Derg
Reply to  Scissor
March 27, 2022 5:04 pm

Bingo. Also one side has nuclear weapons, I am not trusting the US Government to keep sanity. When you start seeing unity for war…dark times 😔

richard
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 29, 2022 2:14 am

Don’t worry, I am sure , NATO, are itching to step in –

Yugoslavia- NATO – “It destroyed or damaged bridges, industrial plants, hospitals, schools, cultural monuments, private businesses…”

“During 2011, NATO bombed a path to Tripoli to help its proxy forces on the ground oust Gaddafi. Tens of thousands lost their lives and much of Libya’s social fabric and infrastructure lay in ruins.
The 2016 article appearing in Foreign Policy Journal ‘Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libyan Intervention’ exposed why Libya was targeted”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 4:40 am

“Perhaps it would help to consider Yemen. Where, according to the UN, the aerial bombing campaign of UK and US forces has killed over 400,000 people, mostly children. It continues now.”

Ridiculous! There is no such aerial bombing campaign.

“but it is clear where the evil is in this conflict comes from.”

Again, Ridiculous. Your bias is showing.

Jay Willis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 27, 2022 4:50 am

Tom, why do you say such things when the evidence is every where? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29319423

Just to make it easier for you, it says, in the second para. ” The Saudi-led coalition backing the country’s official government has spent seven years fighting a rebel group called the Houthis, using mainly air strikes ”

That’ll be the same Saudi regime that had the head chopped off a journalist in the Turkish embassy. Our allies in this bombing campaign.

Scissor
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 6:35 am

It’s difficult to get accurate and unbiased news but we do get glimpses of things that should be repugnant to most regardless of one’s position.

Just within the past couple of weeks, 81 were executed in Saudi Arabia, many after having been tortured for days and some for having committed the crime of holding deviant beliefs or having protested against the state.

Ah, but Saudi Arabia is a great ally.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 12:07 pm

Jay, you said: “the aerial bombing campaign of UK and US forces has killed over 400,000 people, mostly children.”

Then you said: “The Saudi-led coalition backing the country’s official government has spent seven years fighting a rebel group called the Houthis, using mainly air strikes ”

I said there is no U.S. bombing campaign. You are saying the same thing. The Saudis are doing the bombing, not the U.S. or the U.K.

The Saudis aren’t even talking to Biden now, so the U.S. doesn’t have much influence on what the Saudis are doing right now one way or the other.

I don’t condone killing innocent people, but it’s hard to tell, considering the propaganda, just exactly what is going on there. Of course, the Houthis are going to claim civilians are being killed. That’s standard propaganda.

The Saudis are being attacked by the Houthis, so that should be a legitimate reason for them to respond.

The Houthis just barely missed hitting Saudi oil facilities the other day with their missiles. The Mad Mullahs of Iran are backing and funding the Houthis rebels. Biden is planning on giving the Mad Mullahs billions of extra dollars if the new nuclear deal with them goes through. Guess where that money is going? It almost looks like Biden is on the side of the Mad Mullahs and the Houthis instead of the Saudis.

If the Houthis manage to seriously damage Saudi oil production, then we will see much higher gasoline prices than we have now.

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MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 27, 2022 7:58 am

Once you have decided that anti western propaganda is truth and all else is propaganda, the world makes sense.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 4:45 am

Yeah, Hitler wasn’t really so bad either. And we invaded France on D-Day, so what’s the difference?

Jay Willis
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
March 27, 2022 4:53 am

What’s your point Bruce? Who’s “we”? Did you invade France? If you were involved, youself, you have my greatest respect. If not? Well you can work it out for yourself.

MarkW
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 8:00 am

I hear Argentina and Brazil are harboring a lot of Nazi’s, when do we invade them?

richard
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
March 29, 2022 3:07 am

Weird thing is Hitler’s chief of Staff , Adolf Heusinger, became Chairman of the NATO Military Committee,

MarkW
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 7:56 am

Invading other countries, killing their people isn’t evil?

Lrp
Reply to  Jay Willis
March 27, 2022 12:00 pm

Irrational no, evil yes. Relativism is a moral failure

richard
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
March 29, 2022 2:10 am

Even the Guardian had it correct years back-

“It’s not Russia that’s pushed Ukraine to the brink of war” https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict

Mr. Lee
March 27, 2022 12:53 am

Students shouldn’t be doing protests. They should be doing debates, where one half does one side and the other the other side. But the dung-brained sad pathetic sorry excuses for “teachers” can’t risk exposing students to “unauthorized” facts. So, they “protest” nonsense.

LdB
March 27, 2022 1:03 am

Timing is everything in protest action and the schoolkids failed badly as it didn’t even make a blip outside probably Sydney news.

fretslider
March 27, 2022 1:23 am

“ Did Anyone Notice…”

I’ve noticed their increasing desperation, it’s hockey stick shaped.

Tom Abbott
March 27, 2022 4:26 am

From the article: “Breitbart has reported about a leaked document, which suggests progressives in the Biden administration are pushing for a nuclear response if Putin uses WMD in Ukraine, though Biden has not to my knowledge publicly committed to such a position. Progressives allegedly see going nuclear as a means to deliver Biden a “huge victory” over Russia.”

I don’t believe this report. Biden will be the last one to start a nuclear war. In case you hadn’t noticed, Biden is trying to stay out of this fight as much as possible.

Anyone who thinks using nukes to send a message about chemcal weapons use is insane. That message you send may get answered and not in a way you would like.

Sending in the NATO troops would be a much better option. That way, perhaps a nuclear war could be avoided, assuming Putin is not suicidal.

Democrats are fools. We are in constant danger with them in charge. it’s just amazing how really stupid some people can be. And they think they have everything under control. Which just goes to show how really stupid they are.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 27, 2022 4:55 am

NATO troops in the Ukraine will be seen as a not tolerated escalstion and seems not to be a good idea.

Scissor
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 27, 2022 6:45 am

Whatever the situation, deescalation sounds like the correct short-term objective.

Richard Page
Reply to  Scissor
March 27, 2022 7:26 am

De-escalation gets my vote but how do you get Putin to do it?

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 8:17 am

I’m sure it’s not by telling everyone you want regime change in Russia or by threatening actions that would likely invoke a Russian response. (It’s easy sitting in my chair here.)

Rather, I would tell everyone that you don’t want war and don’t want the situation to escalate.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 8:57 am

It’s simple, really – all the Ukrainians have to do is to give in to his demands, and then he will de-escalate. I mean, what’s not to like?

richard
Reply to  Richard Page
March 29, 2022 5:09 am

by agreeing to his terms. It’s well known what expansion of NATO would lead to – https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html#efmBTnBfi

Richard Page
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 27, 2022 7:24 am

US troops won’t be part of a NATO invasion/counter-invasion/intervention force for the next year or so at least. Biden can get away with using troops to posture on the sidelines but if any get killed in another foreign adventure the Dems are going to be in even bigger trouble at the polls.

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 8:22 am

We’ve had and still have special operation forces in Ukraine. It’s not unlike the situation leading to the Vietnam war in that regard. Neither side has spoken about this which is interesting.

Richard Page
Reply to  Scissor
March 27, 2022 11:53 am

I know there were several US private contractor firms working in Ukraine up until recently, didn’t realise there were specops there as well.

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 12:00 pm
Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 12:22 pm

The U.S. has been training Ukrainian Special Forces for quite some time now, and according to some of the trainers, that’s the reason the Ukrainians are doing so well against the Russians now.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 27, 2022 12:19 pm

NATO troops would be preferrable to using WMD.

If Putin is not suicidal, then he will fight a conventional war and leave it at that.

Using WMD would certainly spawn a response in kind from Putin. Sending in the NATO Troops might not.

Which one is the better choice if you only have those two to chose from? One that will definitely lead to nuclear war, or one that might not?

The only other alternative is not to respond at all, and thus give Putin free rein to do as he pleases. At some point NATO is going to have to stand up and present an obstacle to totalitarianism. Or go down the tubes of history.

fretslider
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 27, 2022 5:41 am

Biden is trying to stay out of this fight as much as possible.”

I don’t believe that.

“For God’s sake this man cannot remain in power,”

Sounds a lot like….. regime change.

Scissor
Reply to  fretslider
March 27, 2022 7:10 am

I heard he wants to send Dominion voting machines to Russia.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  fretslider
March 27, 2022 12:28 pm

Biden is probably the biggest appeaser in the federal government right now, since Teddy Kennedy died.

He wants no part of any war. He is moving as slowly as he can now hoping circumstances will come along that bail him out without him having to do anything.

Biden is the only guy that voted no when it came to going after Osama bin Laden.

Biden is a runner, not a fighter, despite his tough talk which is just a facade. Biden is tough with his neighborhood bully “Corn-Pop, but that’s about it. And, or course, Corn-Pop is a ficticious character so it doesn’t take much to be tough with a guy like that.

If there’s a war, Biden will be dragged, kicking and screaming, into it.

The United States is being led by an appeaser of dictators.

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MarkW
Reply to  fretslider
March 27, 2022 1:16 pm

Whether this White House actually meant what it said about regime change is impossible to tell. The only competence this past year has been incompetence with this administration.

MarkW
Reply to  fretslider
March 27, 2022 2:03 pm

On the other hand, how many times has Putin hired mercenaries to assassinate Ukrainian leaders?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  fretslider
March 28, 2022 3:43 am

““For God’s sake this man cannot remain in power,””

As I heard Biden say that, I thought to myself: That should apply to you, too, Joe. You are doing more damage to the U.S. that Putin could hope to do.

Perhaps we can impeach and remove Biden from office in January. Too bad the Russian people don’t have the same option with Putin.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 27, 2022 12:38 pm

I think the claims of a warmongering Democrat Party are greatly exaggerated. Most Democrats are appeasers first. They are not looking to fight foreign enemies.

On the other hand, the Democrats are fierce when it comes to domestic political competition. They are ruthless and give no quarter when it comes to domestic opposition. If only they were as fierce with our foreign enemies as they are with their domestic opponents.

Then foreign leaders might pay attention to the Democrats. But that’s not going to happen because Democrats are foreign policy cowards and the dictators of the world know it.

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Richard Page
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 27, 2022 6:14 am

Biden was actually the first to mention or infer a nuclear confrontation over Ukraine. During the Russian build up, some time before Putin mentioned nuclear war or dire consequences, Biden had already gone there. I’m sure he probably wandered off script and his handlers probably rowed back from his statement after the fact but Biden, left to his own devices, is likely to push the button because he can’t think of doing anything else.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 12:43 pm

“but Biden, left to his own devices, is likely to push the button because he can’t think of doing anything else.”

No, that’s not going to happen. You don’t understand Biden. I’ve watched him since the 1970’s. He is an appeaser of dictators through and through.

Richard Page
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 27, 2022 4:41 pm

Biden a few years ago maybe – I know little about the man other than what others have been saying about him but is he still the same man that he was?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Page
March 28, 2022 3:55 am

That’s a good question, but I think the disastrous retreat from Afghanistan has Biden written all over it. He wanted out and damn the conseqences. That’s what appeasers do.

He wanted out of South Vietnam and damn the consequences (yes, he was around for those votes); he wanted out of Iraq and damn the consequences (the rise of the Islamic Terror Army); he wanted out of Afghanistan and damn the consequences (25 million Afghans in danger of starvation, and the gift of $85 billion worth of weapons to the terrorists; and he wants out of this Ukraine distratction (as he would think of it), although world opinion is keeping him from throwing the Ukrainians to the wolves just yet.

That’s Joe Biden. He has been responsible for the death and displacement of literally millions of innocent human beings during his long political career. And he’s not done yet, unless we can remove him from office in January.

Biden is a walking disaster in every aspect. The United States is in peril while he is in charge.

Stephen Skinner
March 27, 2022 4:51 am

As the world stands on the brink of a possible nuclear war, a few kids protesting about climate change just doesn’t seem important.”
If it comes to nuclear war then it will be vital to maintain social distancing and wear a mask.

Scissor
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
March 27, 2022 6:41 am

Don’t forget your boosters.

Peta of Newark
March 27, 2022 5:41 am

What’s really actually upsetting the kids……
Is anyone listening apart from using them as an opportunity to Take The Piss?

What happens when those ‘upset kids’ grow up a bit – are they not likely to be even more upset?

Quote:““We are entering an era in public health where we are talking more about promoting wellness and building resilient people,” he said. “What we are doing now is not sufficient. We need to help people live meaningful purpose-filled lives.”
from here

This is your priority teachers – NOT Junk Science, Political Correctness and Sexual Deviance/Divergence/Tittivation……

What about Causation and Correlation – how many people ‘passed away’ in this plandemic, in the UK, because our Prime Minister is a self-important, Magically Thinking (sundowning) and belligerent drunk?

Bruce Cobb
March 27, 2022 5:56 am

Greta even sang a little ditty about “You can shove your climate school strike up your arse!” Rhythmically, the song sings itself.

Danley Wolfe
March 27, 2022 7:28 am

Delete.

MarkW
March 27, 2022 7:47 am

Progressives are such simple souls, they honestly are not able to comprehend the world as it is so they simplify it down to a level they can understand.

They believe that all it takes to be popular is to win a war. Doesn’t matter how you win, or how you got into the war. Just win.

Scissor
Reply to  MarkW
March 27, 2022 8:28 am

I wonder what would happen if the draft is reinstated but then all of a sudden most of the males simply identify as female.

Richard Page
Reply to  Scissor
March 27, 2022 11:46 am

I believe it would be considered illegal to discriminate against anyone on the basis of gender. If the draft is reinstated they will have to draft everyone equally – the scramble to get over the Canadian border will be colossal!

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 12:35 pm

The standing law is for males of age 18-25 yoa to be registered for Selective Service. I think it’s already been ruled before the SC as constitutional, back when it was easier to define male and female.

Of course, congress could change the law.

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Elle Webber
Reply to  Scissor
March 27, 2022 2:38 pm

Do you think SCOTUS will need to rule on what a man is? And will that new justice abstain?

Scissor
Reply to  Elle Webber
March 27, 2022 8:19 pm

LOL.

Doonman
March 27, 2022 8:36 am

What are the human caused watts/meters^2 at ground zero?

Protesting minutia is a waste of time and effort in the larger scheme of things, I would think.

Bill Powers
March 27, 2022 9:26 am

Drones protesting nuclear power while Government drones advocate nuclear war.

In my day we drones protested nuclear bombs while advocating free love.

Ahhh for the good old days.

Richard Page
Reply to  Bill Powers
March 27, 2022 11:48 am

Give them time – the wokerati will get round to protesting against free love eventually!

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Page
March 27, 2022 1:20 pm

Can’t have free love. Have to find a way to tax it.

Gordon A. Dressler
March 27, 2022 12:45 pm

Answer to the question in the above article’s title:

No, most of us today are more worried about a nuclear strike in the Ukraine.

March 27, 2022 2:29 pm

One Flash, and the schoolkids are ash!

marlene
March 27, 2022 2:59 pm

At what cost? I don’t think so. I think if Putin & Biden don’t stop rattling their sabers they should be replaced with real leaders.

Richard Page
Reply to  marlene
March 27, 2022 4:44 pm

Those aren’t their sabres……

marlene
March 27, 2022 3:09 pm

“Nuclear Doctrine to Protect Ukraine” – from what? The use of a nuclear weapon won’t protect any country in the world. Biden’s more likely relying on fear-mongering as a scheme to help democrats win the next election. 

Gunga Din
March 27, 2022 3:50 pm

I did see one story about it.
I commented that the protesters in DC seemed to be the same type that signed the petition to ban DHMO at an Earth Day a few years ago.

Mavis Emberson
March 27, 2022 7:32 pm

If Putin threatened Nuclear strikes! No guarantee he did. IF the internet will let you check,that is! So the analogy failed through no fault of your own

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Mavis Emberson
March 28, 2022 7:16 am

Your leading “If” statement is a pretty big IF, don’t you think?

Also, this is no guarantee that he did not make such a statement, directly or indirectly.

Richard Page
Reply to  Mavis Emberson
March 28, 2022 12:15 pm

Well, to be fair, nobody has actually stated categorically that they would bombard another country with nuclear weapons but there have been some quite strong inferences made. So far USA, UK, Russia and France have all made strong inferences whilst N. Korea has praised the size of their dear leaders erect missile.

Ruleo
March 28, 2022 3:07 pm

like Putin again threatening to use nuclear weapons to bolster his faltering attack on the Ukraine

The good ol’ Pelosi/Romney/Schwab talking points.

After all we’ve learned about Fake News the last 6 years… people still fall for it. My god…

richard
March 29, 2022 2:31 am

A few days ago there were demonstrations in ,Yemen, against the West backed war in this country, the worst humanitarian disaster in the last 20 years- never made the MSM.

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