Marc Morano Takes on Climate Alarmist Reporter at ICCC-14

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Marc Morano responds to climate-alarmist reporter’s attacks at recent 14th Annual International Conference on Climate Change

[I cleaned up the audio on this video and hosted here on WUWT for continuity. I still want to make sure Dan Becka’s Youtube gets credit~charles]

Here the the Channel 4 report, including a cameo by yours truly.

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Newton
October 20, 2021 11:46 pm

Notice the soft interviewing with the woman who tracks what she refers to as deniers but tries to hammer Marc Merano
I must say he absolutely killed her stupid questions and statements

H B
October 21, 2021 12:51 am

Silly pommie cow of a reporter
Poms have been brainwashed by their education system most of them have drunk the cool aid
They yell and scream when their world view is challenged seen it many times sad situation

Reply to  H B
October 21, 2021 11:43 am

The UK media is as bad as the Australian (Sky News Australia excepted)

October 21, 2021 1:19 am

Channel News is even worse than the BBC (if that were possible) for its climate change alarmism. It employs any obnoxious characters.

Vincent Causey
October 21, 2021 2:45 am

I like how they only play a few words from her “interviews” with the delegates, edited for maximum negative impact. No intelligent person watching this broadcast would take it at all seriously becasue it basically consisted of the presenter marching up to the forum telling the camera “look everyone, crazy climate deniers do dwell here.”

The public deserve better.

Lerameistezet
Reply to  Vincent Causey
October 22, 2021 12:39 am

“No intelligent person watching this broadcast would take it at all seriously”
That’s precisely why the vast majority would take it very seriously. 

fretslider
October 21, 2021 3:22 am

Talk about an uninformed Bimbo.

Given her accent, it’s amazing she denies what Parliament is pushing for.

Blind faith?

Pyrthroes
October 21, 2021 3:35 am

Updated by Potsdam’s Helmholtz Research Center (HRC), the solar system’s daily geomagnetic disturbance (“Space Weather”) Ap Index relates global temperatures to sunspot activity via Earth’s total solar irradiance (TSI) as solar magnetic fields (SMFs) affect the intensity of ambient Cosmic Radiation. NB: See a preposterously schtoopid Green Party advocate’s projection of 7-meter (21 ft.) global sea-level rises by AD 2100, citing Potsdam’s notorious junk-science Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK).

As applied by Svensmark-Zharkova from c. 2005 to 2016, Ap Index levels tie to Cosmic Ray incidence via sunspot activity driving solar magnetic fields, governing Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) influencing global temperatures. Absent astro-geophysical factors –orbital and polar inclination, equinoctial precession, continental plate-tectonic dispositions– this confirms Australian Robert Holmes’ empirical 2017 Mean Molar Mass version of the Ideal Gas Law, where any planet’s Global Atmospheric Surface Temperature (GAST) = PM/Rp (qv). Since this includes no “carbon footprint” (CO2) industrial/fossil-fuel [sic] component, Holmes’ Law decisively discredits Green Gangsters’ nefarious emissions fraud.

Over half-a-century from 1968, then 1978, every syllable of Klimat Kooks’ attitudinal anthropogenic global warming (AGW) mythos has proved ridiculously 180ᵒ dead-wrong. Yet Green Gangsters’ hidden-agenda narrative persists because crony-socialists’ money and power are at stake. Meantime, as Potsdam’s HRC Ap Index breaches 1878 levels below -50 from c. 2006 – 2107+, Earth’s cyclical 102-kiloyear post-Holocene glaciations stir awake, presaging a recurrent Pliocene-Pleistocene chill-phase from 3.6-million YBP, due to last another 16 – 24+ million years.

October 21, 2021 4:55 am

Where it went wrong and how it will never progress is with the ‘denier’ word.
The very fact that it came into usage tells everyone that its users don’t know nor understand The Science that they claim to understand. They use the Ad-Hom to deflect any questioning.

If someone anyone calls you a ‘denier’ – admit it, tell them you are.
Tell them that The Science Is Junk
Why:

  • All substances in this Universe absorb electromagnetic radiation. IOW The atmosphere would soak up radiated energy from the surface anyway, without assistance of Green House Gases(GHGs) and ‘get warm’
  • OK, some materials, gases in the atmosphere, absorb at very particular wavelengths. It’s what we might observe as ‘colour’

Now where it all goes wrong:

  • The GHGs absorb at their ‘colour’ but the process is one of what happens in a Carnot Heat Engine. IOW The incoming packet of energy (photon if you like) becomes 2 significant new parts.
  • One part stays with the GHG and adds to its energy content but the other part continues its journey to ‘wherever’ ……
  • …….the Carnot equation tells you how much goes each separate way
  • Next we’re told that ‘The energy is re-emitted in all directions‘. This is no lie but is the actual moment where The Emperor makes an appearance for 3 reasons
  • 1/ Because of Carnot, the re-emitted energy is not the same as the absorbed energy – the 1st Law says that it must have longer wavelength and be = colder
  • 2/ It matters not one jot about ‘emitted in all directions‘ – what matters is whether it is absorbed in all directions
  • 3/ At this point it would have been nice if the substance in question, CO2, actually did any measurable emitting at the temps and pressures of the atmosphere.
  • Point 2 above is the important one…..
  • …..it is where the 2nd Law comes into play (the science of Carnot, Einstein, Entropy, Jozef Stefan, the Cooling Universe, Joule etc etc) in fact if the re-emitted energy headed downwards from wherever it was emitted, it has no-place to go. It is, by the above explanation, much colder than anywhere/everywhere below its source – Lapse Rate tells us so
  • The re-emitted energy will thus simply bounce/reflect/refract/scatter around in the space/volume/wherever until it finds itself headed upwards and outwards- where it and its Carnot created sibling where headed anyway

The Whole Theory Of The Green House Gases is abject nonsense
We need a Plate Tectonics Moment here…… we really do

Addendum:
Work it out..
Lets be generous and allow CO2 an emissivity of 0.001 ##
Take the average temperature of the Troposphere to be minus 15 Celsius or 258 Kelvin
Take Stefan’s Const. = 5.67 times Ten to the minus Eight

I get 251 milliwatts per square metre

and that is going to Trash The World.
Yes, Intelligent Life is = No More

## that’s CO2’s figure at 33 Celsius (306 Kelvin) and a partial pressure of 340ppm as measured by Hottel in 1954. A guy name of Leckner repeated the experiment and got a smaller number)

Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 21, 2021 5:06 am

Reply to self but aimed at Alert Readers and Agile Minds..
Does or does that explanation above tell you that ‘Green House Gases’ might have a Cooling Effect…
By shattering high energy/temp photons into colder ones?
> If the original photon had not encountered a GHG, it might have been absorbed by a non-GHG and really actually had a Warming Effect

But after a warm photon’s encounter with a GHG, the 2 resulting cold photons can only heat any thing/place/where that is colder than they are at their new wavelength and that place is never below where that encounter occurred. They can not return to the surface.

Well yes they can but there’s no place for them to go/stay/be absorbed

Maybe they got it right the first time, back in the 70’s, when GHGs caused cooling

fretslider
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 21, 2021 5:21 am

We need a Plate Tectonics Moment here…… we really do”

You won’t get one simply because that would be off narrative, wouldn’t it.

Tom Abbott
October 21, 2021 5:22 am

What stood out for me in these videos was, the mention of “Green Tyranny”, I thought that was a good description, and it was funny when the reporter told the assembled skeptics about how the weather was getting more extreme because of CO2, and the whole audience laughed out loud.

The reporter was on a misson to discredit the conference. Marc is lucky she let him get a word in edgewise.

richard
October 21, 2021 5:49 am

Amazing that deaths from extreme weather has declined by 90%+ since the 1930s as the world’s population has exploded. https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters

richard
October 21, 2021 5:56 am

“all of those control systems onto the climate” – as reported on WUWT a while back – “What this memo shows is EPA’s recognizing it had to move its global warming campaign away from the failed model of discredited Big Green pressure groups and their “mascots” the polar bears and polar ice caps, that “climate” has proved “consistently — an unpersuasive argument to make.” In it we see the birth of the breathtakingly disingenuous “shift from making this about the polar caps [to] about our neighbor with respiratory illness…”.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/18/happy-anniversary-most-cynical-epa-memo-ever/

richard
October 21, 2021 6:02 am

regarding deaths from covid- CDC data “For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death” Average age of death with covid was 82 years , average life span is 82 years. How long does a person with an average age of 82 year have to live with 4 serious diseases. –
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR1qC9bXRTmggpniTBAvlzvAZ-wpZdAsCoFlRwiujGQy01DJlvTM6aOr4HQ

Alba
October 21, 2021 6:04 am

The highlight for me was when she said that the people at the Heartland Institute were not interested in listening to other points of view. And she said it with such a straight face.
But I have to give it to her. She was sent to do a hatchet job and she used all of the techniques you would expect. The scary description of the lake and the blame being given to ‘climate change’ with no evidence whatsoever. The attempt to show that people at the conference were crackpots – why else would someone come dressed as Elvis? The description of Marc Marano as a ‘self-described’ environmental journalist. And the turning to the ‘expert’ to get an ‘impartial’ view of the views being put forward.

October 21, 2021 8:46 am

What is really strange is the so-called climate journalists complete and utter incomprehension of where the actual severe crisis lies – in the financial system.
They cannot understand Davos-speak, even when Davos ordains owning nothing.

Could it be that people actually do see something really wrong when a house or student loan is unpayable, and now auto fuel, electricity? In other words, are they expressing severe misgivings in the wrong words ”climate” and CO2, fossil this and that? Davos is hijacking the mind.
I think Ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern is right – a sudden shift to the reality, he identifies as ‘metanoia’ a turning of the mind upside down, away from hubris and overweening arrogance, Davos knows can happen without apparent warning anytime.

Charlie
October 21, 2021 8:50 am

In the second video

Reporter : You’re all having a good laugh, but how do you account for these things? [Forest fires, floods, droughts]

Responder : You need to be very precise in what you are alleging…

And cut there, move on.

The Channel 4 viewer will never know what this ‘impartial’ reporter might have refused to learn in the minutes that followed.

Reply to  Charlie
October 21, 2021 11:35 am

I assume this was the Channel 4 “journalist” who asked the last question after Anthony Watt’s and Ross McKitrick’s presentations, as recorded on YouTube. She asked nothing about either presentation, instead launching into the ‘97% of scientists’ meme. So she wasn’t there to learn (assuming she has the intelligence to do so), she was there to reinforce her preconceptions. Par for the course for a Channel 4 “journalist”. For anyone who is not aware, Channel 4 is state-owned, but unlike the BBC is funded by advertising.

Peter Vasiljevic
October 21, 2021 12:01 pm

Astonishing propaganda from Channel 4.

October 21, 2021 12:52 pm

“I believe in science … I believe in science … I believe in science. Click your heels together three times…”
LOLOL … awesome

Ignatz
October 21, 2021 6:18 pm

Marc uses the words that came out of alarmist’s mouths and her response is “you are coopting them.”

Wow.

This is kind of magical.

Cosmic
October 23, 2021 7:11 am

Gawd to I detest these leftists. Maddening.

Peyelut
October 23, 2021 4:10 pm

Who is that HORRID little Harridan?

JCalvertN(UK)
October 24, 2021 8:44 am

What is the name of the activist propagandist that was trying to brow-beat Marc Murano?

Brian Willis
October 30, 2021 1:58 am

I thought she was supposed to be a journalist? Whatever that was, it certainly was not the sort of interview you would expect from a serious journalist.