Climate Politics Threatens an Era of Energy Poverty

By Vijay Jayaraj

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s call for aggressive action against a so-called climate crisis at the United Nations presages similar statements that surely will be made by the dangerously misinformed in the coming months and augurs disastrous energy policy.

Humanity has to “grow up” and tackle climate change, the prime minister told world leaders assembled in New York, predicting catastrophe if warnings are ignored.

“We will see desertification, drought, crop failure, and mass movements of humanity on a scale not seen before,” said Johnson, whose predictions surely will be as wrong as those of Al Gore’s visions of flooding coastlines but who will nonetheless host the U.N.’s November Conference of Parties 26 (COP26) in Glasgow.

Attending COP26 will be world leaders who want to persuade more countries to adopt the CO2 emissions goal of “Net Zero by 2050.” Key conference speakers include Pope Francis, Her Majesty Queen of England, Greta Thunberg, and Sir David Attenborough, none of whom is a climate scientist or with an academic background in the subject.

COP26 is the first major international climate conference since the Biden administration took power in the U.S., a key player in international climate politics. Biden made the U.S. rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement and has vowed to make the U.S. carbon neutral by 2025 — a physical impossibility.

It is also the first climate conference to follow pandemic-induced lockdowns, which some have suggested are an opportunity to introduce restrictions on energy use. The World Economic Forum (WEF) website, for example, says that “there will be no point in rebuilding economies and lives if we sacrifice the future of the planet” by failing to have nations reduce emissions.

“Emissions fell during lockdown. Let’s keep it that way,” says the WEF, which plays a key role in shaping global, regional and industry agendas. Meanwhile, the World Health Organization has stated that pandemic-like lockdowns may be needed every two years to control emissions.

Considering apocalyptic musings of world leaders like Johnson and Biden, the apparent naiveté of many COP26 attendees and the affinity of some for lockdowns, the pronouncements of the Glasgow conference are likely to be both unprecedented and immature. Whether countries follow through with conference resolutions is a subject for another day, but the proposals at COP26 will affect the future of the energy sector.

Hostility toward fossil fuels in the West is already having an adverse effect on individual access to energy and on economies in general. The U.K., which has adopted an anti-fossil fuel stance, is facing severe increases in natural gas prices.

“Wholesale gas prices have surged by 250% this year, including a 70% rise since August,” reported Sky News. This is a major blow for 22 million households that are dependent on gas for heating and cooking. In addition, gas is a key fuel for electricity generation and industrial processes.

One immediate impact could be felt by food processors, who uses carbon dioxide derived from natural gas for carbonation of drinks, refrigeration and animal slaughter. The chief executive of the British Meat Processors Association said that product could be disappearing from supermarket shelves in two weeks.

So, what led to the U.K. gas crisis? Part of the answer lies with government policy to not extract the country’s massive gas reserves, depending instead on imports.

Difficulties in U.K.’s power sector has been exacerbated by an overreliance on wind power. Wind production — usually a source of pride for the prime minister — dropped considerably during the past three weeks, requiring greater use of gas and coal.

The situation in the U.K. should be a warning to U.S. energy planners, who might face a similar situation if Biden moves ahead with his carbon-reduction proposals and replaces U.S. energy independence with a renewed dependence on imports. Additional commitments made at COP-2  can only put U.S. energy security at further risk.

In addition to instilling fear with climate alarmism, politicians are threatening an era of energy poverty for billions around the world.

Vijay Jayaraj is a Research Associate at the CO2 Coalition, Arlington, Va., and holds a master’s degree in environmental sciences from the University of East Anglia, England. He resides in Bengaluru, India.

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October 11, 2021 6:10 pm

Sad to see the destruction of western civilisation and the impoverishment of the third world after the optimism and successes of the second half of the 20th century.
All based on bad science.

Steve Case
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
October 11, 2021 6:34 pm

Destruction of western civilization is the goal, reducing CO2 emissions is not.

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The Saint
Reply to  Steve Case
October 11, 2021 8:30 pm

Clowns to the Left of me; Jokers to the Right….

Scissor
Reply to  The Saint
October 11, 2021 9:01 pm

Where is griff and Loydo? Let’s go Brandon.

Sara
Reply to  The Saint
October 12, 2021 4:26 am

Here we are, stuck in the middle again.

Hot cocoa or hot tea with a splash of ‘energy’?

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Steve Case
October 11, 2021 9:47 pm

Who could have imaged that the destruction of Western civilization would be self-inflicted?

Abolition Man
Reply to  Paul Johnson
October 11, 2021 10:22 pm

Paul,
The destruction of Western civilization is being brought about by PARASITES living within the host! Modern Progressivism is comprised of what Prof. Gad Saad calls parasitic thought! Those afflicted with these infectious ideas have little or no ability to deal with reality, history or human nature! Instead they live in an imaginary world where their beliefs are pumped into them like drugs from an IV!
The schools that were once a source of learning and pride are now merely indoctrination factories! Like all cult religions, Progressivism does not allow independent thought; those who doubt must be cancelled, while those who disagree must be destroyed!
It really is a religious war; a war where most of our rulers agree with the enemy’s goals; the destruction and subjugation of free range humans! They seem to believe only a few serfs or peons need to be preserved; and they can be house like chickens in a factory farm!

Steve4192
Reply to  Paul Johnson
October 12, 2021 3:55 am

Just about any historian.

Most great empires are undone, at least in part, by internal rot. The more successful and powerful they become, the more decadent and self-absorbed their population becomes and the more venal and ossified their leaders become, leaving the empire wide open for exploitation by bad actors and external forces.

It has happened over-and-over against throughout history on scales both grand and small. It’s human nature. Hard times create hard men, hard men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. The wheel of time keeps turning, and every successful society sows the seeds for it’s own destruction.

Eric Harpham
Reply to  Steve4192
October 12, 2021 11:07 am

Brilliant. Well put. I trust that you don’t mind if I use your ideas and your words in a letter to the Daily Telegraph here in the UK to try and point out the error of our ways.

As to whether it will be published only time will tell.

oeman 50
Reply to  Steve Case
October 12, 2021 7:14 am

And what if did reduce CO2 emissions? Oh wait, we did during the shutdown! And the CO2 measurements on Mona Loa came crashing down! Or maybe not?

Reply to  oeman 50
October 12, 2021 11:50 am

Definitely not!

All claims to pandemic lockdown CO₂ reductions are based upon someone’s model of assumed reductions of fuel use, not actual reductions.

Magnify that by mankind’s pitiful percentage of contributions towards atmospheric CO₂ and the alleged pandemic reductions are too small to measure.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  ATheoK
October 13, 2021 3:38 am

The point being that man’s CO2 contributions are not making a significant difference in the atmosphere and hence, even if CO2 was the control knob, it’s not anthropogenic CO2 that is the problem.

saveenergy
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
October 12, 2021 1:13 am

And ‘Grated Britain’ is the first to go over the edge !!

Meanwhile( like fiddling Nero)

  • the glorious leader is of on a £25,000 holiday …

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10077893/Boris-Carrie-break-25-000-week-Marbella-hideaway.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

  • & Tory MP Sir Peter Bottomley has complained about their low pay, which currently stands at £81,932, plus an eye-wateringly generous expenses package

Mods … Why does EVERY comment I make now get the ‘Awaiting for approval’ notice ???

(Have no idea, rescued from the trash bin) SUNMOD

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Duane
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
October 12, 2021 6:02 am

The people will absolutely not put up with this nonsense when they start freezing in the dark, getting uncomfortable in the heat, and can no longer live the good life, as it is in the first world, or have any hope of living the good life some day as it is in the third world. When people can no longer buy their big screen TVs, play their video games, get on the internet, buy and drive nice automobiles (no matter how powered), build and live in comfortable homes, take vacations to cool places they dream of going, and eat the foods they like and drink the drinks they like, the dream of the warmunists will quickly come crashing down.

Until now, it’s been all talk, no sacrifice by the little people. But now it is starting to hit home – everything from runups on oil and gas and gasoline prices; runups in the price of everything; shortages of everything.

No wonder Biden’s approval ratings have plummeted. Because he is endorsing this massive restructuring and reduction of our standards of living, and promising to double down and triple down on it.

Observer
Reply to  Duane
October 12, 2021 12:48 pm

In the US, there are still some politicians who are holding out against The Green Madness. Here, in the UK, even the “conservatives” appear to have fallen for it.

Adam Smith remarked that there was a “lot of ruin in a nation”. I think we’re about find out exactly how much.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Duane
October 12, 2021 2:20 pm

Duane

I agree about the impact hitting hard enough. By the time people cannot afford to turn on the lights or heat two or three rooms at once, I fear it may be too late – it is very hard to turn back the cost-clock.

When energy is 10% of disposable income, the family i said to be at risk of energy poverty. By the time it reaches 20%, they are deep in energy poverty. If it reaches 30%people will take dire steps including changing fuels to burn anything that will keep them alive. Even in the most energy poor social groups, they almost never reach 30% for energy because other life-extending needs like food are even more important. Essentially, as energy expenditure approaches 30% people do without, so the food is still there. In that condition of chronic underheating, particularly, the excess death rate leaps.

This winter will have Europe demonstrate to us how this mechanism works. The greens have blocked life saving gas and nuclear energy. It doesn’t not take much to trigger a slight over-demand that will push whole nations into crisis. There will be no need for lockdowns when there are freeze-downs. Cold kills. Like Iceland in the 18th century, Europe is one volcano away from mass starvation. The parties (and Parties) responsible must be held to account.

Editor
October 11, 2021 6:13 pm

Vijay Jayaraj is a Research Associate at the CO2 Coalition, Arlington, Va., and holds a master’s degree in environmental sciences from the University of East Anglia, England. He resides in Bengaluru, India.”. I wonder whether Vijay lives in India because it is a friendlier place than the University of East Anglia for people whose brains are functional.

(Nice article, Vijay, BTW)

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Mike Jonas
October 11, 2021 6:21 pm

India does not have the luxury to be stupid, while we in the west seem to have a window where stupidity is possible and allowed
Until the fit hits the shan

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
October 11, 2021 7:09 pm

In India, with its huge population, one year’s missed grains harvest would spell starvation calamity for tens of millions.

Indian leaders understand theycan’t be climate woke, because going broke is not an option.

Let’s Go Brandon!

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beng135
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 13, 2021 8:43 am

Na, go ahead & say it.

Frack Joe Biden.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Mike Jonas
October 11, 2021 7:31 pm

India has become the de facto head of the British Commonwealth. Despairing of finding an uncorrupted university for a family member, I researched Universities in India (Japan and some others). The curricula of Delhi Univ., the #1 U in the country has no wifty-poofty faculties for empty heads. No “safe places” for snowflakes to be protected from a real education. Even the term coeducational- men and women (no matter how they might “self identify”) was comforting. No sign of degree courses in victimhood.

The medical faculty, engineering, sciences, math, even the arts and humanities seemed to have a full scope of scholarly study.

Are there Univs in America still functioning free of political corruption (someone tell me)? I would never send a kid to what once were the great ones in America or Europe. Poison Ivy League, Oxbridge, etc. The rankings today are a joke and no guide to make choices from. Japan has great, no nonsense Univs butwould need to learn the language.

There is a huge opportunity to create new educational institutions with high academic standards and no Micky Mouse faculties. I think demand would be huge. I can see no way to repair Harvard and its fellow travellers.

griff
Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 12, 2021 12:57 am

The problem is not universities, but that reality conflicts with your political beliefs…

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 1:06 am

🤣. Hi griff. You wouldn’t know reality if it kicked your bum.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 12, 2021 2:24 am

I too am convinced that Griff wouldn’t recognise death when it stares him in the face.

Sara
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 4:32 am

griff, you really need to pay attention. Political beliefs are turning governance into a religious order. Convert or suffer the consequences handed down by Those On High, who think we’re all just the mud people.
Do you want to face an Inquisition? As I understand it, they weren’t much fun. Snap out of it, willya?

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Jim Gorman
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 5:56 am

You may have stumbled on to the truth but sadly you won’t recognize it! Political science should stay in the PolySci department!

MarkW
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 7:45 am

It really is sad the way griff actually believes that the echo chamber of his mind is reality.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 8:05 am

OK griff, are you suggesting I can fix my comment to fit ‘reality’ by enshrining wifty-poofty faculties for empty heads,“safe places” for snowflakes and degree courses in victimhood, or was “The medical faculty, engineering, sciences, math, even the arts and humanities seemed to have a full scope of scholarly study.” out of whack with your reality?

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 9:16 am

Reality is not the weekly troll talking point list in circulation.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 11:09 am

Griff, you need to read up on your history, the useful idiots always get eaten and liquidated by the revolution. Pay special attention to the “Mensheviks” as i believe you have a lot in common with them.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 5:19 pm

You are correct, the problem is not with the universities themselves, it is with the left wing educators that have taken over the universities that are the problem.

Vijay
Reply to  Mike Jonas
October 12, 2021 8:46 am

Hi Mike, I live in India. Despite year-on-year increase in coal production, we ran out of coal this year. I blame it on India’s distraction with wind and solar. Massive funds into Solar which could have been utilized for coal extraction and imports. Sure, India is a friendlier place, but the entire media is rigged. Thankfully, the brute reality of energy need is keeping the politicians honest and forcing them to push for more coal.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Mike Jonas
October 13, 2021 3:43 am

It certainly show that an intelligent person can live through the worst indoctrination and come out with critical thinking skills.

October 11, 2021 6:19 pm

When we see ‘desertification‘ in the UK there will be pigs flying overhead and BoJo will be amongst them. Meanwhile down below will be a horde of hungry, freezing peasants who went along with the nonsense.

Abolition Man
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
October 11, 2021 10:36 pm

nicholas,
Desertification, except where caused by humans, seems unlikely at present! The Great Global Greening that is occurring here in the Modern Climate Optimum is turning desert margins into grass and scrub lands! Until CO2 levels start to fall, as they will during the next glacial onset; this greening is likely to continue!
Of course, a short term cold cycle like the Little Ice Age would probably reverse the increase in plant life, but please hold off on training any porcine aviators! Unless you want to give them suicide vests and launch them at the monuments of the wind gods, that is!

Julian Flood
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
October 12, 2021 12:47 am

You are dead right. We are creating a very stratified society.

If you’re a fan of Richard Thompson then his song ‘Pharoah’ is worth listening to. It’s on the Toob.

Pharaoh sits in his tower of steel
Around his feet the princes kneel.
Far below we shoulder the wheel.
We’re all working for the Pharaoh.

JF

twobob
Reply to  Julian Flood
October 12, 2021 1:18 am

Thanks for the reference .Now playing Richard Thompson.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
October 12, 2021 12:38 pm

desertification”

A term used by alarmists as they point to their examples of “desertification”; i.e., places already known as deserts, Mojave, Sonoran, Chihuahuan, Sahara, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Australia the driest inhabited continent in the world, Atacama, Kalahari, Karoo, Danakil, Chalbi, Namib, Guban, Nyiri, Gran Bara, Antarctica the driest continent, Gobi, Oregon’s Owyhee Desert, the Great Basin sagebrush desert that covers much of Nevada and Utah, northeastern California, southeastern Oregon, and western Wyoming, etc. etc,

In fact, “Deserts cover about one fifth of the earth’s land surface.“.

Yet, when alarmists land in Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson, Las Cruces, Reno, Winnemucca or anywhere they accidentally encounter desert, they believe the local desert is caused or aggravated by mankind’s fossil fuel use.

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beng135
Reply to  ATheoK
October 13, 2021 9:16 am

Interesting method to help deserts retain water — sand dams.
https://youtu.be/Wkq540gsq2M

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Pat from kerbob
October 11, 2021 6:19 pm

As we have seen, it really doesn’t matter if what you say or predict turns out grossly incorrect, what matters is saying the right words.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
October 12, 2021 2:26 am

And have the right facial expression. Puppy-dog eyes help as will a I-am-being-persecuted complexion.

Patrick MJD
October 11, 2021 6:28 pm

I lived through the energy poverty ear of the 60’s/70’s in the UK. It was party due to the oil crisis as well as industrial action. Coal miners and energy suppliers going on strike bringing the country to it’s knees leading to the 1979 winter of discontent and Thatcher coming to power.

The winters were very cold too.

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Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 12, 2021 12:03 am

Temps in my area will drop to a low of 26 F by early morning. This is early in the year for a freeze in this area. … https://www.weatherbug.com/weather-forecast/10-day-weather/douglas-city-ca-96052

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  goldminor
October 13, 2021 3:48 am

I hope you are protecting your citrus trees!

twobob
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 12, 2021 1:21 am

Yet we still Get Prats, telling used we need to go green.

Rusty
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 12, 2021 4:12 am

Which led to the dash for gas. We are seeing the weakness of continuing to rely on that policy as north sea gas supply dwindled and new supplies not being secured from UK territory.

Paul C
Reply to  Rusty
October 12, 2021 4:57 am

There are still plenty of gas reserves in the North Sea, but government is blocking exploitation of that gas while the older fields are indeed becoming depleted. The vast amounts of shale gas around north-west England are blocked from being exploited by making it impossible to frack. Large industrial processes typically create some disturbance. Insisting that any vibration must be way less than that caused by a bus driving past prevents exploitation of that needed resource. Coal is in the ground adjacent to power stations, but oil is used to transport wood pellets from the USA and Canada to be used as an inferior and more polluting fuel instead. Failure to provide reliable power is likely to destroy our industrial base in the short term. The main hope is that the Rolls Royce small modular reactors can start to be built before de-industrialisation is complete.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Rusty
October 12, 2021 5:56 am

France, without the benefit of North Sea fossil fuels reacted to the Arab Oil embargo by going nuclear. Germany is resisting a 21st move by the EU to go nuclear again in the face of unpredictible energy crunch

Ten EU countries push for nuclear power to be labelled as green energy as world faces energy crisis following years of pressure to move to eco-friendly sources

  • France is pushing the EU to classify nuclear energy as ‘green’ technology 
  • It is leading a group of 10 countries that includes Poland, Hungary and Finland 
  • Group say technology is ‘essential’ to ending reliance on imports, lowering costs and cutting emissions without becoming over-reliant on renewables 
  • But they are being opposed by the likes of Germany – which gets 75% of its energy from fossil fuels – which argue the technology is unsafe

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10083399/Ten-EU-countries-push-nuclear-power-labelled-green.html

With Poland looking like it might follow the UK out of the EU Germany might end up with nuclear power stations next door whether it likes it or not

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
October 12, 2021 5:30 pm

Yes. The supreme court in Poland has just ruled EU law is Trumped by the Polish Constitution.

Mike
October 11, 2021 6:29 pm

Key conference speakers include Pope Francis, Her Majesty Queen of England, Greta Thunberg, and Sir David Attenborough,”

Well I don’t know about everyone else but I’m certainly trembling with excitement.

DonM
Reply to  Mike
October 11, 2021 6:49 pm

The Queen knows enuf about climate/weather to know when it is raining… somebody hands her an umbrella (or they handle it for her).

The Pope may need to check with his boss to be sure its rain.

Attenborough may need to check to see if he is pissing hisself and his depends are leaking.

Greta may not know if it is others pissing on her or if it truly is rain.

Between the four of them they could probably get it right though.

twobob
Reply to  DonM
October 12, 2021 1:25 am

Wet, IS, WET

Jim Gorman
Reply to  DonM
October 12, 2021 6:03 am

You can’t average wrong answers and expect to get the right answer.

MarkW
Reply to  Jim Gorman
October 12, 2021 7:48 am

Except in climate science.

twobob
Reply to  Mike
October 12, 2021 1:23 am

All misinformed puppets and the ignorant.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Mike
October 12, 2021 2:29 am

There will be no Donald Trump to pull faces at or otherwise get annoyed by. So it will all be lovey-dovey and utterly boring and predictable.

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Alba
Reply to  Mike
October 12, 2021 3:14 am

The Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is aged 95, Attenborough is aged 95, the Pope is aged 84. These people have the wisdom of the elderly and know an awful lot about dogs, horses, rabbits and such like. Queen Greta is aged 18 and knows very little about anything because she kept dogging off her lessons at school. I think that Pope Francis wrote something called Amoris Dementia but I’m not sure that is the right title. .

JeffC
Reply to  Alba
October 12, 2021 5:38 am

Didn’t realise that Greta was into dogging!

Eric Harpham
Reply to  JeffC
October 12, 2021 11:21 am

For the foreign English speakers amongst us dogging is a slang term which does not mean going to Grey Hound racing but meeting up with strangers in a remote location for……………..

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Mike
October 12, 2021 5:59 am

As a Scot I’d like to point out that Her Maj is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which is different from just England alone.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Mike
October 12, 2021 9:26 am

Glasgow wins.
I predict high demand for jet fuel, food services, advertising, night life, and trinket sales.

Beyond that, Percy Shelley comes to mind.

otsar
October 11, 2021 6:50 pm

The sooner the insane ideas are implemented the better; before we are too weak to pull the flush chain.

Joel O'Bryan
October 11, 2021 7:08 pm

Threatens???

More like “ensures.”
It’s a feature of climate scam policy, not a bug.

John Boland
October 11, 2021 7:50 pm

I remember a time when the Pope was focused on the salvation of souls, which is the whole point of the position after all. This is an earthly Pope, not a spiritual one. I really miss Pope John Paul II. The whole damn world has gone to hell, including the Pope…whatever.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  John Boland
October 11, 2021 8:22 pm

As he meets with the evil Nancy Pelosi this past weekend. It was the Pope meeting the Devil’s advocate to parley.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 12, 2021 5:33 pm

This morning Nancy was chastising the White House reporters for failing to sell Biden’s agenda hard enough.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/pelosi-reporters-selling-build-back-better

Abolition Man
Reply to  John Boland
October 11, 2021 10:40 pm

John,
You were thinking back to a time when the Pope was a Catholic! The current one seems to have studied Marx much more than Matthew, Mark, Luke or John! He even seems quite willing to work with ChiComs as they rewrite Holy Scripture more to their liking!
John Paul II is spinning is his grave!

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  John Boland
October 12, 2021 2:36 am

Early Christianity had a brilliant strategy of dealing with paganism, by simply incorporating sanitised versions of pagan rituals and festivals into the creed. Cultural appropriation it is now called.

But it appears the pagans have the last laugh with a pope and therefore the Church converting en masse to Mother Earth worship.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 12, 2021 5:18 am

Ed,
Nope! The Pope converted to Marxism! When enough Catholics realize this, they will ask for a refund or an exchange!
Oh, and Marxism is the worship of the state or government; they only pretend to care about Gaia to fool the useful idiots!
Right, griffter!?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Abolition Man
October 13, 2021 4:02 am

He’s not my Pope. He’s just like one of the toads that called themselves Pope when there were four of them.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Abolition Man
October 13, 2021 4:03 am

The devout will never figure it out, they are indoctrinated at an early age to believe totally in the infallibility of whoever is Pope at the time. It is very bad juju to question the reigning Pope, could lead to excommunication….

Alexy Scherbakoff
October 11, 2021 8:39 pm

The COP26 looney tunes convention.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
October 12, 2021 1:07 am

One does hope it snows heavily.

Oldseadog
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 12, 2021 2:04 am

I saw a long range wx forecast the other day saying it might snow in Glasgow on Halloween.

Alba
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 12, 2021 3:17 am

It only goes to March 25th but the BBC website forecast for Glasgow on October 25 is 12 degrees. But a lot can change in 6 days.

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 12, 2021 12:51 pm

Ice storms galore!

Peta of Newark
October 11, 2021 11:05 pm

Ramblings….

It’s ‘telling’ that BoJo wants folks to ‘grow up

He’s echoing what I often say in here=
The (Climate) Science is childish, it is the Science of the Kindergarten

Such things as the simplistic nonsense of
Trapped Heat,
the notion that clouds make you warm,
the endless violation of the 2nd Law while claiming to understand it

But not least, the behaviour of the protagonists…..
the name-calling & the cheap insults
blinding hypocrisy & selfishness
the idea that they can lie with impunity
the tribalism
the endless appealing to and hiding behind ‘authorities’ = the My Dad’s bigger than your Dad syndrome
the insane belief in the Broken Window Fallacy as an actual sensible economic model – so beautifully highlighted in the glee that UK Media has when (old coal-fired) power stations are demolished – just ‘on the off chance that they might ever be used again’

add your own ideas/realisations. maybe.

Pause for a moment – be careful if you agree or disagree with that. I could say ‘don’t be impulsive (childish)‘ in your response.
Get my drift? Just like driving your car, always Look In The Mirror before any manoeuvre

Peta from Newark’s Theory is that its caused by the sh!t food we all are now forced to eat.
“Forced” because there’s nothing else to eat.
It is not our evolutionary food, we only ate sugar (starch) in an emergency when our preferred choice of Saturated Fat and animal protein became temporarily unavailable for whatever reason.
Sugar is not A Staple for us.

Because and as we all see, 60 to 70% of the time we see it literally ‘in the mirror’, sugar destroys our bodies.

But also our minds. Peta’s Theory says that if you ‘take an adult’ and switch off all its Adult Learning and Social Skills, you can only be left with ‘A Child’

That is what sugar does, it depresses, it switches off large chunks of our brains. Is that a protection mechanism built into our brains?
is it that sugar is a recognised toxin and by closing down all but the bare essentials, The Brain hopes to weather the storm?

When Dustin Hoffman was = The Rain Man, Autism was fairly unknown.
Not in fact dissimilar to when Eisenhower had his (1955) heart-attack. Such things were = Rare Medical Curiosities.

Yet now heart attacks and other cardio vascular fails are The Biggest Killers of our time.
Likewise, Autism is diagnosed in 2.5% of children – it was almost unknown in Rain Man’s time.

BUT but but, Autism is not a black/white or On/Off affair. Its diagnosis depends completely entirely on who is doing the diagnosis.
What if the doctor/nurse/parent were themselves, to greater/lesser extent/degree – Autistic?

Is that the Childishness that both myself and BoJo are raving about?

I do suspect tha BoJo, or his speech writers, are alluding to the childishness brought on by alcohol consumption.
You really must visit London. While you are stone cold sober and have been for at least 6 months.
Because then, you will realise/see that London Is Powered By Alcohol – so no great surprises as obviously BoJo, the BBC, the UK MSM and UK Government is/are = London based/centric

At which point, Peta starts talking about self – how many children don’t?
Peta, 17 years ago, had a Cardio Calamity in the shape of a TIA stroke.
Peta came out theother side but was ‘changed’
No-one else seemed to notice, were they Too Kind to say anything but no matter, Peta noticed and is still noticing/learning about what happened

One of the things Peta took on board was the importance of the B family of Vitamins. Peta’s hospital was highly regarded in its treatment of Stroke victims – it the ‘Go To Place’ in whole Northern England Southern Scotland.
It was simply Peta’s local.
Peta is not THAT important yet what that hospital did was to flood any incoming stroke victims with Vitamin B.
Nurse came along 5 or 6 times per day with a small plastic cup rattling with B Vitamin pills, and a glass of water and you, the patient, were invited to swallow it all down.
The exact same happened to victims of severe ‘head trauma’ – car crash victims, motorbike wrecks and push-bike horrors and in reality, that is pretty well what A Stroke is = Severe Head/Brain Trauma

Now then, pull this all together.
Point #1
Plants for food, i.e. a sugar based diet is very very low in B Vitamins

Point #2
Deficiency of B Vitamin in young women is a serious indicator for the delivering of brain-damaged children. But, as above, how many are never even diagnosed?

Point #3
A dietary defcincy of iron, occasioned by none other than soil erosion predisposes young women to Anaemia – combine that with a lack of B Vitamin and you are guaranteed of an Autistic child

Point #4
Soil erosion kills the bacteria in the soil (this is actually= the Soil Organic Matter) and some of those bacteria MUST at some point get inside of us.
If and when they do, they remain living in our tummies and manufacture Vitamin B12. If me/ you/anybody ever runs out of Vitamin B12, we get something exactly identical to Alzheimer’s Disease and maybe even 10 years later, we surely ‘pass away’
How many Alzheimer’s’ victims are being misdiagnosed, by doctors themselves who may be sub-clinically brain-damged – damaged from the moment of their own actual conception?

Point #5
Roundup
Roundup works to kill plants by blocking some very critical metabolic pathways.
It is a Chelating Agent – it binds very strongly to certain things, wont ‘let go’ and thus effectively starves the plant of whatever things.
(Pretty well what Carbon Monoxide does to us should we get a face full of the stuff – it binds to Haemoglobin, won’t release and we effectively suffocate)

Now it gets scary, very scary…
Many of the bacteria inside of us, in the Rest of The Planet in fact, many bacteria use the exact same metabolic pathways that plants use – the same pathways the Roundup blocks

The bacteria inside of us are all there for very good reasons – not least the ones I mentioned that manufacture Vitamin B12 for us.
A lot of the bacteria inside us make other important stuff too, especially stuff for our immune systems which uses B Vitamins also.
Also the systems that eliminate alcohol use a lot of Vitamin B

The Punchline…
The number of cases of diagnosed Autism exactly parallels the arrival of and ever increasing use of Roundup. Also the skyrocketing number of Alzheimer’s sufferers

It’s not just sugar that is trashing this world.
It is the stuff responsible for making things ‘ never better’

To end on a lighter note and back to Soil Erosion, read this and weep:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-latin-america-58818078

WTF is a dust storm doing in a Rain Forest?
sorry peeps, we really are f****d this time

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 12, 2021 1:03 am

BoJo is currently on holiday in a 25,000pound per/week holiday villa in Marbella that belongs to a friend of wife, Carrie. Ok for some I guess.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 12, 2021 2:35 am

I knew Carrie was the source of all the UK Greenie problems. She’s certainly the source of many of Boris’s!

M Courtney
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 12, 2021 3:38 am

He gave Zak a peerage. He gets a favour in return.

And he’s out of the country right now, when the latest report on how the UK handled Covid comes out. We bungled it relative to our neighbours.

With hindsight it’s obvious that we were making the wrong choices compared with the rest of Europe but that is the fault of the Labour Party for not being more supportive of the dithering. According to the Tory Party on BBC R4 this morning.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  M Courtney
October 12, 2021 6:11 am

Zac Goldsmith also a green campaigner and in 2004 received Mikhail Gorbachev’s Global Green Award for ‘International Environmental Leadership’.

Possibly with a history of the usual green deviousness

Zac Goldsmith, David Cameron’s green adviser and a prospective Tory MP, has been accused of avoiding the payment of nearly £6m in tax during the past 10 years by adopting non-domiciled status.

https://www.markpack.org.uk/7125/tory-candidate-zac-goldsmith-accused-of-avoiding-5-8m-tax-as-non-dom/

meab
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 12, 2021 10:22 am

You’re wrong again. Why don’t you spend just a minute looking stuff up before you rant?

Humans don’t produce vitamin B-12 – we can only get it naturally by eating animals or animal products. Our digestive systems are inhospitable to the bacteria that produce B-12. That’s why, and you can look this up in less than a minute, the Vegan Society’s webpage reminds Vegans that they have to take a Vitamin B-12 supplement or eat Vegan foods artificially fortified with B-12. You’ve been told this before, the fact that you can’t retain it tells me that you probably already have Alzheimer’s.

Soil erosion doesn’t cause climate change. Soils have been eroding for a billion years – that’s why we have river valleys and deltas. In areas away from river valleys, the plants recycle their mineral content into the soil. If you walk through any old forest you can see decaying plant matter. What in the world do you think causes most of that decay – hint – it’s insects, fungi, and bacteria. MOVE ON, you’re beclowning yourself every time you rant about this crazy stuff.

Reply to  meab
October 12, 2021 1:05 pm

Besides, soils initially are the result of weathering, where rocks are chemically decomposed into smaller components.
Initial erosion of weathered rock redistributes decomposed rock as alluvial or sedimentary deposits.

Weathering and erosion are natural Earth processes for most of this planet’s existence.

MarkW
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 12, 2021 5:38 pm

Sucrose is in many, maybe even most of the foods we eat.
Your belief that “sugar” wasn’t a part of our diet until recently is non-factual.

Not talked about, is not the same as hardly exists.

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Climate believer
October 11, 2021 11:23 pm

Even though the loonies have taken over the asylum, and every day the incompetence of those in power beggar belief…. there is still hope that nuclear power will make a comeback.

France bets on more nuclear power in face of Europe energy crisis
https://www.ft.com/content/d06500e2-7fd2-4753-a54b-bc16f1faadd8

griff
Reply to  Climate believer
October 12, 2021 12:58 am

Flammanville….

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 6:20 am

A minor set back, from which the technology will improve and build times reduce.

The dependability of nuclear (and gas for that matter) and unreliability of wind is clearly evident on the UK grid today.

CCGT 18.09GW (50.64%)
Nuclear 3.97GW (11.11%)
Wind 3.44GW (9.62%)

It’s been this way since before dawn today as
Solar 2.85GW (7.97%)
has only managed to match the damaged French interconnector

Don Perry
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 1:08 pm

You can’t even spell it correctly!

fretslider
October 12, 2021 12:42 am

The only reliable source of wind is the hot air emanating from Parliament and Buck house

“ Tory MP reveals grim reality of living on just £82,000 as he asks for payrise”

https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/06/tory-mp-asks-for-payrise-as-living-on-81k-a-year-can-be-really-grim-15371935/

They are in another world

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  fretslider
October 12, 2021 1:08 am

Many are psychopaths.

fretslider
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 12, 2021 2:05 am

Well paid psychopaths

Abolition Man
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 12, 2021 3:54 am

Chaswarnertoo,
I don’t know how many are psychopaths, but there is definitely a concentration of sociopaths far beyond their proportion of the population! A free press has prevented such from acquiring permanent power for generations here in the US, but with the media morphing into propagandists, the lunatics truly are running the asylum!
One of the key criticisms of Marxism SHOULD be how quickly it pushes sociopaths into the upper levels of the hierarchy, but most college professors don’t believe in hierarchies! That’s why they are professors and you are not!

Peter K
October 12, 2021 12:55 am

So will we get a business plan, accompanied with a return on investment, from these bozos?

griff
October 12, 2021 12:56 am

and yet it is the price of a FOSSIL fuel, natural gas, causing the problem here…

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 1:03 am

You forget about the tax hikes across the board MAKING everything expensive.

fretslider
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 1:08 am

Take away the green subsidies and suddenly it becomes affordable

Simple

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 1:09 am

Deliberate policy. You silly grifter.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 1:47 am

And just for the record, in the UK right now, inflation is running at about 5%. At the same time pay for nurses was *CUT* by 3%. You’re not a nurse are you Griff?

Paul C
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 12, 2021 5:28 am

Double counting alert! The nurses claimed pay cut is in real-terms. I.E. their previously agreed pay rise is below the expected inflation figure. It is bordering on dishonest to state the 5% inflation figure AND the 3% as a pay “cut” rather than simply stating that the increase in nurses wage rates has not kept pace with inflation. Many employed people have had a significant reduction in income over the pandemic years.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Paul C
October 12, 2021 5:41 pm

Maybe if you spoke to people who are having bear that near 5% rise in the cost of living while also having to wear a 3% drop in pay, might change your view. The pandemic is a sc@m stop using it as an excuse.

Alba
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 3:23 am

Griff,
You are, of course, correct. But if there wasn’t this insane dash to replace fossil fuels with weather-dependent sources of energy maybe the problem would not be as bad. At least at the moment we can still use gas. Imagine what the situation will be like when the econuts get their way and cutback gas supplies even further.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 6:18 am

It is cold that is the problem. Warm weather means no need for fossil fuels to make you warm. It is simple, let the Earth warm and the need for fossil fuels goes down.
Brought to you once again from the sunny west coast of Florida where the high temperature today is forecast to be around 88F, low humidity and light winds. Tonight will be in the low 70’sF. No need for heaters.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 6:25 am

The evidence is that the new E10 petrol is actually causing more fossil fuels use by reducing MPG by more than 10%

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 6:28 am

Prices driven by Eco-Nazi POLICIES, not any actual shortage.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
October 12, 2021 7:50 am

Like nuclear, the greens do everything in their power to make fossil fuels expensive. Then declare that the fact that they are expensive is why they need to be abandoned.

RickWill
October 12, 2021 1:19 am

Just make sure you can stay warm.

Take advantages of any subsidies.

Buy shares in companies still able to extract fossil fuels.

No matter how the world is committed to net-zero it isn’t going to happen this century.

Australia has spent 20 years installing random energy generators across the countryside and connecting them with expensive new poles and wires, batteries and synchronous generators.

Every third house has solar panels. All that effort and random energy meets 2% of Australia’s energy needs and just 0.6% of Australia’s energy output.

Random energy is an illusion of something useful. But in the era of consensus science an illusion is good enough. You just have to be smart enough to make the most of it. Australia’s economy will enjoy an unprecedented resource boom. Even met coal mines will get an easy road to approval providing they support the consensus of net-zero.

Some more numbers – wind generators are more than 100 times more materials intensive than gas turbines. All the investment in the last two decades in Australia is producing 0.6% of Australia’s energy production and 2% of primary energy used. Think about replacing all the fossil fuel generators to get to net zero. It would require 300 times the existing mass of power stations; remembering that they have to provide energy for electricity production, transport and industry. It is so far beyond madness.

US debt held offshore is USD15tr – about 1 year total GDP and US can still get other countries to accept US paper at almost USD1tr a year. I will be surprised if China and Russia are willing to take US debt for much longer. If the USA is forced to live within its means, it will be extraordinarily inflationary. Trump was going in the right direction. Covid and Biden are undoing all that. I think US is now in the same boat as UK and EU just a year or so behind.

Oldseadog
October 12, 2021 2:00 am

Vijay,

There is no “Queen of England”, she is Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England and Scotland disappeared as sovereign states in 1707 when Scotland and England joined together to become a new country called Great Britain. Although England and Scotland have different legal systems and governments, they are not sovereign states, in the same way that Texas and Utah are not sovereign states. Calling her “Queen of England” is like calling President Biden “President of Maryland”.
End of nitpick.

Good paper from you, though.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 12, 2021 2:41 am

She may not be “Queen of England”, but she is still the queen of England. Slight difference, which hardly matters to most!

Rusty
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 12, 2021 4:18 am

Generally Americans don’t understand the UK. When they mean the UK they say England. Hence ‘Queen of England’.

Also London occupies 95% of all the land in ‘England’. And every English person knows every other English person.

Vijay
Reply to  Oldseadog
October 12, 2021 8:49 am

Oops. Error noted. Thank you

Alba
October 12, 2021 2:48 am

“Her Majesty Queen of England”
Sorry, but there ain’t no such thing today as a Queen of England. You might as well call Biden President of California. Or you could, I suppose call Elizabeth, Queen of Queensland. Then again you could call Macron President of Brittany. They are all equally nonsensical.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Alba
October 12, 2021 6:20 am

Well, we are calling Biden “Brandon” these days so……

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom in Florida
October 12, 2021 11:48 am

There’s a new rap song out about “Let’s go Brandon” now. The rapper is wearing a red “Make Music Great Again” hat. It was a rather catchy tune.

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Alba
October 12, 2021 2:58 am

The chief executive of the British Meat Processors Association said that product could be disappearing from supermarket shelves in two weeks.

Yes, but he is quoted saying that in a Sky News article dated 22 September and we are now at October 12th so the two weeks have passed. In fact, nearly three weeks have passed. Are there meat shortages in British supermarkets? I put ‘meat shortages’ into the search engine and the most recent hit that came up was dated September 29th. Certainly when I was in a local supermarket a few days ago I didn’t notice any gaps in the meat shelves. Of course, other areas might be different.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Alba
October 12, 2021 4:04 am

Alba,
Panic porn to get the sheep to rush out and hoard! There are numerous problems with the supply chains that will be exasperated by rising fuel costs, but for the moment things seem to be about normal except I can’t find reasonably priced brisket!
The insanity of pushing Unreliable Energy while closing down fossil fuel production is coming back to bite the Gretatards sooner than expected! Only an idiot, an ignoramus, or the insane would willingly give up plentiful high density energy sources for low density, intermittent ‘renewable’ energy! Right, griffter!?

Paul C
Reply to  Abolition Man
October 12, 2021 5:37 am

By coincidence, I’ve just been eating my reasonably priced brisket from Morrisons supermarket.

M Courtney
October 12, 2021 3:41 am

“Emissions fell during lockdown. Let’s keep it that way,”

Seeing as atmospheric CO2 levels didn’t fall during lockdown there is no reason to keep it that way. Man’s emissions are ether negligible compared with the natural emissions or man’s lockdown was negligible on our emissions.

Either way, we don’t need to repeat 2020 for climate purposes.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  M Courtney
October 12, 2021 6:34 am

And CO2 does not drive the “climate” in any event. So yes, we don’t need to repeat this to “save us” from the nonexistent “climate crisis.”

Rusty
October 12, 2021 4:07 am

His government supposedly got the covid response wrong because they ‘followed the science’.

Sound familiar?

Sara
October 12, 2021 4:22 am

Humanity has to “grow up” – quote

Uh, no. Humanity is quite grown up, far more so than that fathead PM in the UK, who lives on moonbeams and idiot dreams. His heat and facilities should be cut off well ahead of those of the peasants he so despises. He would be well-advised to spend a full winter with no source of heat. He does not deserve to live better than those he is now tormenting.

Such a jerk, he is!!!!

US rejoins Paris CliCord? What does anyone expect from a rapidly deteriorating mental midget with a whole train of bad advisors pushing him along this path?

Meantime, Vlad Putin and Xi JinPing are laughing up their sleeves at us. (Anyone besides me notice that those last names kind of rhyme?)

Rant over.

Civilization was nice while it lasted.

Last edited 1 year ago by Sara
October 12, 2021 8:46 am

The problem is that Johnson, Biden and the EU leaders have been following the self-delusional science of the establishment western academic scientists .See these quotes from
“Net Zero threatens Sustainable Development Goals”
https://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com
 
Abstract
This paper begins by reviewing the relationship between CO2 and Millennial temperature cycles. CO2 levels follow temperature changes. CO2 is the dependent variable and there is no calculable consistent relationship between the two. The uncertainties and wide range of out-comes of model calculations of climate radiative forcing arise from the improbable basic assumption that anthropogenic CO2 is the major controller of global temperatures. Earth’s climate is the result of resonances and beats between the phases of cyclic processes of varying wavelengths and amplitudes. At all scales, including the scale of the solar planetary system, sub-sets of oscillating systems develop synchronous behaviors which then produce changing patterns of periodicities in time and space in the emergent data. Solar activity as represented by the Oulu cosmic ray count is here correlated with the Hadsst3 temperatures and is the main driver of global temperatures at Millennial scales. The Millennial pattern is projected forwards to 2037. Earth has just passed the peak of a Millennial cycle and will generally cool until 2680 – 2700. At the same time, and not merely coincidentally, the earth has now reached a new population peak which brought with it an associated covid pandemic, and global poverty and income disparity increases which threaten the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals. During the last major influenza epidemic world population was 1.9 billion. It is now 7.8 billion+/. The establishment science “consensus” that a modelled future increase in CO2 levels and not this actual fourfold population increase is the main threat to human civilization is clearly untenable. The cost of the proposed rapid transition to non- fossil fuels would create an unnecessary, enormously expensive. obstacle in the way of the effort to attain a modern ecologically viable sustainable global economy.  We must adapt to the most likely future changes and build back smarter when losses occur. ……………………..
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Fig 5 Correlation of the last 5 Oulu neutron cycles and trends with the Hadsst3 temperature trends and the 300 mb Specific Humidity. (28,29)
The Oulu CR data shows the decrease in solar activity since the 1991/92 Millennial Solar Activity Turning Point and peak There is a significant drop to a lower solar activity base level post 2007+/-.There is a new solar activity minimum at 2009. As in Fig.4 the MSATP at 1991 correlates with the MTTP at 2003/4 with a 12/13 +/- year delay. Short term temperature spikes are colored orange and are closely correlated to El Ninos.
 Temperature Predictions
 Loeb et al 2018 in  “Changes in Earths Energy budget during and after the “Pause” in Global Warming”(30) provided an important observational database from 1998 – 2018.This
showed that a reduction in global mean reflected short wave top of atmosphere flux in the three years following the hiatus resulted from decreased low cloud cover which added to the 2016 El Nino temperature spike.
Figure 5 also predicts SST3gl and Specific Humidity trends from 2022 – 2037. (Blue and Purple dashed lines) The secular change in the Solar Activity to a lower base level after 2007 projects to 2021. The SST3gl general decline trend from 2021 to 2037 is here projected as the reverse of the increase from  1983 – 2004 with the cycle 24 peak projected  at 2028 and the cycle 25 peak at 203………………………………………….
Most importantly the models make the fundamental error of ignoring the very probable long- term decline in solar activity and temperature following the Millennial Solar Activity Turning Point and activity peak which was reached in 1990/91 as shown in Figure 5. The correlative UAH 6.0 satellite TLT anomaly at the MTTP at 2003/12 was + 0.26C. The temperature anomaly at 2021/9 was + 0.25 C. (34) This satellite data set shows that there has been no net global warming for the last 17 years.  As shown above, these Renewable Energy Targets in turn are based on model forecast outcomes which now appear highly improbable. Science, Vol 373,issue 6554 July2021 in ”Climate panel confronts implausibly hot models” (35) says “Many of the world’s leading models are now projecting warming rates that most scientists, including the modelmakers themselves, believe are implausibly fast. In advance of the U.N. report, scientists have scrambled to understand what went wrong and how to turn the models…… into useful guidance for policymakers. “It’s become clear over the last year or so that we can’t avoid this,” says Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies.”
The global temperature cooling trends from 2003/4 – 2704 are likely to be broadly similar to those seen from 996 – 1700+/- in Figure 2.

ResourceGuy
October 12, 2021 9:13 am

And an era of resource misallocation on a grand scale

richard
October 12, 2021 9:20 am

“We will see desertification, drought, crop failure, and mass movements of humanity on a scale not seen before,” we have been told for thirty years we see these events but all that has happened is a decrease in these weather events- https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters

James H
October 12, 2021 11:39 pm

“ The situation in the U.K. should be a warning to U.S. energy planners”

It should be quite clear now that energy is not what they’re planning. The Great Reset is more likely their plan.

Boff Doff
October 13, 2021 2:25 am

Christopher Booker set out the forthcoming UK power generation problem as far back as the early 90’s. He stepped it up later but no one can suggest that it is a surprise.

griff
Reply to  Boff Doff
October 13, 2021 9:56 am

And yet we’ve had nearly 30 years since his dire predictions and still have had sufficient power in the UK…

Geb
October 13, 2021 4:03 am

And they’d better implement strict measures from day one after COP 26 or XR vow to cause havoc, but only in the U.K. of course.

Vanessa
October 13, 2021 6:26 am

Why do we listen to all these people, none of whom obviously have not a scrap of information on this subject but rabbit on about as if they know something about it ??!!! Why on earth don’t they put their foot in their mouth and SHUT UP !

willem post
October 13, 2021 9:22 am

The ALL-IN cost of wind, solar, and battery systems is at least 2 to 4 times higher than current wholesale prices of 5 cent per kWh.

There will NEVER be any way that is going to change, if low-cost fossil fuels are even more replaced by RE idiot sources, dreamed up by wacko RE, REMAKE AMERICA extremists, who likely do not know their a…. from a hole in the ground, regarding energy systems.

EXCERPT from:

HIGH COSTS OF WIND, SOLAR, AND BATTERY SYSTEMS IN US NORTHEAST
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/high-costs-of-wind-solar-and-battery-systems

Any transition from fossil fuels to low-CO2 sources, such as wind, solar, nuclear, hydro and biomass, could occur only when the low-CO2 sources are: 1) abundantly available everywhere, and 2) at low-cost, say 5 to 6 c/kWh, wholesale, and 3) as reliable as fossil fuels, 24/7/365, year after year. 

This article presents the all-in cost of wind, solar and battery systems in the US Northeast.
Table 1 shows the all-in cost of wind and solar are much greater than reported by the Media, etc.

Much of the cost is shifted from Owners of these systems to taxpayers and ratepayers, and added to government debts 

MINIMUM ANNUAL CARRYING COST OF ANY ENERGY SYSTEM

Simplified Mortgage Method

This method can be applied to Electric Vehicles, Heat Pumps, Electric Buses, Wind Systems, Solar Systems, Battery Systems, etc.

The minimum annual carrying cost of a house, or an energy system, is “paying the mortgage”. 
With regard to a house, all other costs, such as real estate taxes, heating, cooling, maintenance, etc., are in addition.

An energy system must have annual revenues = “Paying the mortgage” + “All other costs”
Any shortage of revenues must be made up by subsidies. 

The less an energy system is able to “pay for itself”, the more the subsidies.
Subsidies can be reductions in the upfront turnkey capital costs
Subsidies can be reductions of some items of “All other costs” 
Subsidies can be paying for the electricity production in excess of market prices

A house, after paying the mortgage, likely is worth more than in Year 1.
However, wind, solar, and battery systems have useful service lives of about 20, 25, and 15 years, respectively. 
Thereafter, they still perform at lesser outputs for some time, but their financial value is near zero.

Complicated Spreadsheet Method

A more exact analysis of the economics of an energy system would involve a spreadsheet with many rows and at least 25 columns (for solar), one for each year. It would involve Present Values, Internal Rates of Return, Levelized Costs of Energy, etc.

GMP, VT-DPS, VT-PUC, etc., have such spreadsheets, as do I. They would be much too complicated to present here. 

PART 1

Cost Shifting from Owners to Ratepayers and Taxpayers
 
The owning and operating cost of wind, solar and battery systems, c/kWh, is reduced by about 45%, due to subsidies. However, because no cost ever disappears, per Economics 101, the subsidy costs are “socialized”, i.e., added, in one way or another, onto:
 
1) Rate bases of utilities, i.e., paid by ratepayers
2) Taxpayers, by means of extra taxes, fees and surcharges on electric bills and fuel bills
3) Government budgets
4) Government debt
5) Prices of goods and services, other than electricity
 
If the subsidies had to be paid by Owners of wind and solar systems, the contract prices paid to Owners would need to be:

– At least 19.3 c/kWh, instead of 11 c/kWh, for large-scale solar
– At least 15.5 c/kWh, instead of 9 c/kWh, for ridge line wind. See table 1 and URL
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-name-of-the-game-regarding-wind-and-solar 

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