Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Fart of death? British Politicians are allegedly concerned about a case of Covid-19 transmission apparently caused by someone passing wind in an adjacent toilet cubicle.
Ministers ‘fear coronavirus could be spread by farting in a confined space’
Ministers have privately pointed to evidence that suggests Covid-19 could be spread when an infected person breaks wind in a confined space, such as a toilet, it is reported
By Chris Kitching Senior News Reporter
19:28, 24 JUL 2021Some UK Government ministers have privately expressed concerns that coronavirus could be spread through farting, it is claimed.
They have pointed to evidence that suggests Covid-19 could be spread when an infected person breaks wind in a confined space such as a toilet.
Tests have revealed that the virus can be present in faecal matter, though the science on whether flatulence could spread Covid is not definitive.
One minister, who wasn’t named, told the Telegraph that they had read “credible-looking stuff on it” from other countries, and there had been evidence of a “genomical-linked tracing connection between two individuals from a [lavatory] cubicle in Australia”.
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Read more: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ministers-fear-coronavirus-could-spread-24609803
Sars-CoV-2 virus is present in urine and faecal excretions, though it seems to vary between patients – some patients suffer diarrhea and nausea, caused by the virus multiplying in the stomach. However even when present, the viral load in fecal matter appears to be significantly less than the load emitted when someone sneezes or coughs.
Shedding of SARS-CoV-2 in feces and urine and its potential role in person-to-person transmission and the environment-based spread of COVID-19
David L Jones 1, Marcos Quintela Baluja 2, David W Graham 2, Alexander Corbishley 3, James E McDonald 4, Shelagh K Malham 5, Luke S Hillary 4, Thomas R Connor 6, William H Gaze 7, Ines B Moura 8, Mark H Wilcox 9, Kata Farkas 10
The recent detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in feces has led to speculation that it can be transmitted via the fecal-oral/ocular route. This review aims to critically evaluate the incidence of gastrointestinal (GI) symptoms, the quantity and infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 in feces and urine, and whether these pose an infection risk in sanitary settings, sewage networks, wastewater treatment plants, and the wider environment (e.g. rivers, lakes and marine waters). A review of 48 independent studies revealed that severe GI dysfunction is only evident in a small number of COVID-19 cases, with 11 ± 2% exhibiting diarrhea and 12 ± 3% exhibiting vomiting and nausea. In addition to these cases, SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be detected in feces from some asymptomatic, mildly- and pre-symptomatic individuals. Fecal shedding of the virus peaks in the symptomatic period and can persist for several weeks, but with declining abundances in the post-symptomatic phase. SARS-CoV-2 RNA is occasionally detected in urine, but reports in fecal samples are more frequent. The abundance of the virus genetic material in both urine (ca. 102-105 gc/ml) and feces (ca. 102-107 gc/ml) is much lower than in nasopharyngeal fluids (ca. 105-1011 gc/ml). There is strong evidence of multiplication of SARS-CoV-2 in the gut and infectious virus has occasionally been recovered from both urine and stool samples. The level and infectious capability of SARS-CoV-2 in vomit remain unknown. In comparison to enteric viruses transmitted via the fecal-oral route (e.g. norovirus, adenovirus), the likelihood of SARS-CoV-2 being transmitted via feces or urine appears much lower due to the lower relative amounts of virus present in feces/urine. The biggest risk of transmission will occur in clinical and care home settings where secondary handling of people and urine/fecal matter occurs. In addition, while SARS-CoV-2 RNA genetic material can be detected by in wastewater, this signal is greatly reduced by conventional treatment. Our analysis also suggests the likelihood of infection due to contact with sewage-contaminated water (e.g. swimming, surfing, angling) or food (e.g. salads, shellfish) is extremely low or negligible based on very low predicted abundances and limited environmental survival of SARS-CoV-2. These conclusions are corroborated by the fact that tens of million cases of COVID-19 have occurred globally, but exposure to feces or wastewater has never been implicated as a transmission vector.
Read more: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32836117/
Of course, most people don’t walk around in public naked – so in a sense we are already wearing butt masks in public, except when we do the business. A 2001 study suggested wearing clothes makes a significant difference to how how much environmental contamination can occur when someone farts.
Hot air?
“It all started with an enquiry from a nurse,” Dr Karl Kruszelnicki told listeners to his science phone-in show on the Triple J radio station in Brisbane. “She wanted to know whether she was contaminating the operating theatre she worked in by quietly farting in the sterile environment during operations, and I realised that I didn’t know. But I was determined to find out.”
Dr Kruszelnicki then described the method by which he had established whether human flatus was germ-laden, or merely malodorous. “I contacted Luke Tennent, a microbiologist in Canberra, and together we devised an experiment. He asked a colleague to break wind directly onto two Petri dishes from a distance of 5 centimetres, first fully clothed, then with his trousers down. Then he observed what happened. Overnight, the second Petri dish sprouted visible lumps of two types of bacteria that are usually found only in the gut and on the skin. But the flatus which had passed through clothing caused no bacteria to sprout, which suggests that clothing acts as a filter.
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Read more: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1121900/
Lets just say I’m not exactly panicking about the hypothesised flatulence mode of transmission. Sneezing, coughing and surface contamination seem far more likely routes to infection than flatulence, though it seems remotely plausible that the occasional transmission through flatulence may occur.
Correction (EW): Sars-CoV-2, not Covid-Sars-2…
It was known early on that WuWHOFlu virions or bits of them are found in sewage, which provided a check on asymptomatic infections.
But how to rule out the infected person’s having sneezed or coughed in the public toilet cubicle?
Sneezing and coughing is audible, but flatulence can be silent and deadly.
More they are silent, less they have power to spread.
Hey, I once cleared out an entire night-club with the ‘fart-and-walk’ maneuver after a muscle-builder protein shake, mixed with five raw eggs, and then chased with a 40 ouncer of Old English malt-liquor.
Walking through a room while farting is called crop dusting.
Hence….SBD
Asymptomatic farting?
A contradiction in terms … farting IS the symptom.
Not when concealed.
You’re right… the proper term would be assymptomatic transmission.
Especially when it’s a BOJO Brain-f..art
Pssssht!
Masks won’t protect against a fart either.
No, but a profound exhalation of intestinal gasses will certainly clear a room quite efficiently.
Makes social distancing quicker.
I would think it’d be hard to put on with your underwear in the way!
Yes but are not those those dog muzzles interchangeable with nappies – or as our American friends call the diapers ?
Yeah I got wind of that.
To me, this is just demonstrating more bad science — and it would seem to be not much more or less logical than what’s been promulgated as the reasons for mask wearing, if it comes to that?
The head posting says,
“Dr Kruszelnicki [and] Luke Tennent, a microbiologist in Canberra [devised an experiment showing the spread of] two types of bacteria that are usually found only in the gut .. suggests that clothing acts as a filter.”
So, a test for spread of *bacteria*, not viruses, which are far smaller, and which could reasonably be assumed to pass through cloth, paper, etc. about as easily as oxygen molecules do? Viruses may be substantially bigger than O2 molecules, but both O2 and viruses are smaller than the weave of cloth, or between paper fibres, say. Try pouring millet seeds through a sieve with holes too large to stop the seeds, would that be a good comparison?
For some reason I feel more angry than amused. We’ve been messed with on the basis of some very strange assumptions for far too long, that’s all.
The virus wouldn’t come out as an aerosol of just the virus. It would be stuck to something larger.
I’ve never seen anything along that line corroborated, though people seem to *say* any random thing at times. Viruses attach to much larger cells without dragging some much larger “bag” with them, but they are too shy to travel without baggage, I suppose?
Lots of papers on droplet and aerosol transmission of he virus. Aerosol refers to very small droplets of water containing the virus. That is research for the virus coming out of the higher orifice. Not sure its random to suggest something similar for the lower orifice.
like a stool?
Has there been another set of tests that reproduced and confirmed
the B S findings of Kruszelnicki and Tennent?
It’s extremely misleading.
Viruses are not seeds. And you are not pouring them. And the goal is not to filter them all out, unless we are talking surgical equipment or NBC protection.
Based on past experiences, I am much more concerned about Kimchi farts in a confined space where one cannot get away, than COVID farts.
Perhaps that old saying “Fart proudly” should be re-examined????
Wow This should be a fun thread to come back to in a couple of hours to read the comments.
Have fun,
Bob
Farting causes CC too, in so far, don’t eat beens, even if the UK will prescribe them as diet 😀
Especially not has beens or human beens
Grandma never said, “Pull my finger” but grandpa did.
FART — Fast Ass Rectal Transmission. Don’t mess with my trigger finger!
What about now:
“Arse corcks coming to you, soon, at markets nearby.”
“Two or three, for the price of one”
🤪
cheers
“One of your throats, already gagged… soon enough the other throat will be gagged too.”
😝
“Double gagging.The very epitome of modern free speech.”
🤓
Also;
“Soon to come.. arsehole vaccines”
😎
Well why not? China’s already introduced anal swab tests so it’s only a matter of time! I’m thinking of trademarking arvac, arsvac, covbum, bumcov, bumvac and others before Pfizer and Moderna get wind of the idea!
They call them vaxholes.
I don’t know about your cork idea. If that sucker let go, you could poke someone’s eye out.
Don’t panick.
Each package includes two arsehole cork shields… to be strapped over the cork… holding firm.
Till one gets to a “safe space”.
With all the “safe spaces” there, it will be ok I guess.
🙂
anyone remember the OLD joke about the farmer the pig and the monkey removing the cork???
Last thing i remember was the monkey trying to shove the cork back in.
Boris Buttocks
😃
knock knock
-“who is it?”
-“the fart licensing guy”
-“what do you want?”
-“according to our records there is no fart license fee paid for this address.“
-“go away, we don’t own no arse in this address, not anymore! Please go way”
Funny how aerosols come from other places too, isn’t it.
But this can be controlled too, by the mandated wearing of diapers indoors. Will it work?
It depends.
Will 2 layers be sufficient? Or will we be required to wear 4?
I think 2 lawyers will be more than sufficient, in most cases.
I see what you did there.
Will the next study be on queefs?
Otherwise known as a cat fart.
No more beans for you, Griffie.
This is so outrageous it must be true.
I smell fake news. More anti-trump bias!
Remember at the UN General Assembly when Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez referred to President Bush II as the devil because it smelled of sulfur around the place where Bush had spoken?
Silent but violent…
And liberating.
🧐
I am more concerned about transmission via warehouses and supermarkets.
There was a Chinese paper saying Covid could ‘live’ for four months on chilled foods, so any infected workers could pass Covid throughout the food-chain.
Nobody appears concerned by this. But if transmission is possible via supermarkets, this would negate the whole rationale of lockdowns. We may have been destroying our economies for no good reason.
RE
Hahahahaha. Sorry, I was mildly amused by the covid farting story but this had me rolling on the floor in stitches. A truly funny story.
If you’re susceptible to Covid, try your luck with a “vaccine”.
Otherwise, just accept you’ll get the disease, and will almost certainly be fine after a few days of mild illness.
The govd;
“Social distancing is a must.”
Arsehole;
“Brother, what is that… can you please ran it again by me, please!”
Thorry.
“Brother we are all in this together!”
😷
Yeap, I took the vaccine because I sure as heck don’t want to get the disease; side effects were minimal, less than those of the shingrix vaccine I got a year earlier. (I’m not sure why the quote marks, surely you’re not so stupid as to believe the vaccine isn’t a vaccine.)
It is not a conventional vaccine, and far worse, it is a leaky vaccine, creating millions of mutation experiments, very likely to create multiple vaccine resistant variations. ( It may not be a coincidence that the current iterations of the Wuflu , like the Delta variant, are vaccine resistant.)
Virology 101 is don’t use a leaky vaccine in a pandemic, especially true when effective medications are available.
Which is exactly what Nobel prize Prof Luc Mantagnier has been saying for a year.
(The discoverer of AIDS virus).
Of course the “med+pharma” profession are f..rting in his face for his temerity to suggest such a thing…
He even holds vaccinating children who have no danger from this thing is a criminal offence.
“…it is a leaky vaccine,”
That’s a new one from the anti-vax brigade
Better wear you mask while handling the stuff if you are scared of your food. / sarc
Not only a FFP2 mask but gas masks too now ?? 😀
The Chinese were hoping to get people to think that covid came from some other country on frozen seafood, rather than being something they caused. No, it can’t, and trying to argue against the lockdowns on this basis is simply buying into Chinese propaganda.
Because it’s non-news for the last few thousands of millennia, or so.
Most creatures using internet consume cooked food. Well, the Japanese may want to stop eating sushi to be on the safe side, but that’s about it.
I’m surprised they haven’t outlawed or put a tax on farting or at very least cancelled the perpetrators.
“Larry the Cable Guy” will certainly be at risk of cancellation! The Fart Police, the Thought Police, and the Evil White Male Police will be coming for him soon!
Somebody will try to introduce laws that force people to wear buttplugs when in public areas. Is there such a thing as a ‘PPE buttplug’? If not, might be a good time to invent one to cash in on the hysteria!
I’m waiting for the CDC/Dr. Fraudci recommendation for “a$$ masks”.
He will certainly recommend folk wear two, cause you two is better then one.
Ranchers can fashion match their cows.
Continuing evidence that some (too many) people have way too much time on their hands.
Members of government, in particular.
Hm.
Does this mean that I will have to build storage tanks for the farts from my flock of unicorns and sanitise the contents of the tanks before selling on the gas?
I’ll need to talk to the vet.
I’m not vaccinated and I fart in your general direction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA
Every time I fart I add to the viral load AND global warming…er I mean climate change.
time for some cauliflower 🙂
So the Chinese had a point in doing rectal swabs when checking for Covid.
Yes,
The point was to see how wimpy the OBiden State Department representatives were.
Very Wimpy was the answer.
And now the OBiden DOJ is dropping the investigation of 5 Chinese at colleges in the US started under TRUMP!
What a surprise.
Aw, shit!
” ….. two individuals from a [lavatory] cubicle in Australia”.
Get yourselves a room guys.
So the solution is ass masks? And will there be fart police checking to see that everyone is wearing a properly fitted ass mask?
Masks don’t provide source control of sub-micron aerosolized particles, and limited mitigation of droplet and fecal matter spread. That said, an anal chastity mask would mitigate HIV/AIDS transmission through a contaminated rectum (i.e. digestive tract) and penis.
You got there first. Congrats!
Unless you live in a nudist colony or have a habit of “going commando”, you probably are already wearing an ass mask in public – it’s called underwear!
Brand name: mASSks
How can you tell when a moth farts?
It flies in a straight line.
I guess the guy who farted was not breathing, cause if he was, they couldn’t eliminate the possibility that he was shedding virus from his lungs.
So he was already dead, just his as didn’t know yet.
Yeah, a decade of scientific papers proving masks don’t stop viruses, especially aerosolized viruses, but we can’t admit that anymore, so it must have been the farts.
Aerosols, maybe. Fecal matter, definitely. Wash your hands.
On a related funny…
Aerosol and Surface Distribution of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 in Hospital Wards, Wuhan, China, 2020
aerosol distribution characteristics in the ICU indicate that the transmission distance of SARS-CoV-2 might be 4 m
And the obligatory mask liability indemnity (shared/shifted responsibility) cargo cult science …
Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study
Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers
Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses
Knowing the source of the virus, flatulence seems a likely vector … considering they eat bats.
Beware of bat farts
Ass masks are just pants
This is just bat fart crazy
Breaking . . .
Whoopee cushions now classified as terrorism weapons.
Biden administration vows to strengthen licensing regulations to control sales of semiautomatic whoopees.
Bump whoopee outlawed under Geneva Convention on Biological Warfare.
Beware of WMDs (Whoopees of Mass Distraction)
The only logical response to this finding is to make it illegal to fart.
We’ve made it illegal to go to work, walk outside without a mask, discouraged talking to your neighbours FFS, so why not make farting a crime too?
Ooh, and if you have plans to protest this, or maybe eat some indian food, we’ll label you as a boofhead, selfish, and just plain silly. Maybe fine you for good measure too.
Cris, wait until the Fart Police present the evidence in court!
Remember the story told by Rush Limbaugh about a woman being ticketed by a policeman for farding in her car?
I await the day someone farts in the capital and the press and left call it a terrorist biological attack.
These must be politicians that have been talking through their asses for so long that they have developed the ability to breathe through them.
Rectal breathing can be a life-saver.
Pigs can breathe oxygen via their rectum, so humans probably can too
Settled science : if you say “fart” 3 times, the Beast will come and you will be infected.
“fart fart fart”
Rectal filters! Which way to the patent office?
There are videos of people farting in the X-ray unit.
Pants doesn’t stop transmission of the cloud, it comes through very well!
Demand Double!
No, triple masking!
Better be triple (or even quadrupple ass-masking) as most people already double mask their asses (underwear plus trousers).
Same goes for masks.
Wuwt doing Sunday funnies now. Great comments, I laughed so hard I farted. I’ll be back in a couple of hours, no doubt there will be more comments and more laughs.
Explains why CCTV cameras have appeared in the toilets of UK public houses.
Mmmmm, maybe CO2 does radiate after all?
A rate of taxation will have already been calculated – all were waiting for now is for an Act of Parliament to be (haha) passed
And it’ll be a windfall (no no no, tell me I did not just say that) for the Exchequer because of The Eatwell Guide – chock full of fibre and other nutrient free mush as it is.
The food it recommends is little better.
Apart from being nutrient to vicious carcinogenic/anaerobic bacteria in our intestines – where they have perfectly NO business being.
And there’s already a tax for that, ’tis called: Inheritance Tax as payable by our kids.
(Aren’t they sooo good, always ‘Thinking of the Children’ IOW: Themselves)
Game of Thrones fart scene (one of them – bit of a weak effort)
https://youtu.be/AejyvoedtH0
Wasn’t originally going to comment, but the absurdity of these just kept growing on me, Shows both the abject ignorance and unwillingness to do the most basic reseach.
The fecal-oral transmission route is well established for intestinal diseases like typhoid and cholera.
The inhaled aerosols route is well established for respiratory diseases like flu and Covid-19. (BTW, if aerosolized rather than aspirate droplets, ordinary surgical masks are of zero value and even Well fitted N95s offer Limited protection.)
The fecal-inhalation route was disproved in the 1840’s by Dr. John Snow when he disabled the Broadstreet well pump handle and stopped a raging London cholera epidemic, thereby experimentally disproving the miasma theory of cholera. While excellent book about that, The Ghostmap (mapping cases was how Snow located the Broadstreet well as the cholera source).
It should be noted that the Cholera pathogen is a bacteria.
This is a great opportunity to test facemask efficacy.
How many masks does it take to not smell it?
Just sayin, same principles apply to this transmission vector as the others, no?
Now all we need are some volunteers! 🙂
volunteers to smelt it or volunteers to dealt it? Or is he who smelted it also the one who dealt it?
The obvious solution is to have everyone wear fart-catching bags, in public, 24/7/365
At the end of each day, the bag is removed, and aired out on the porch to show neighbors you are “woke”.
Each week, the bag must be burned in your burning barrel, etc.
BTW, woke anti-GW folks, who have continued to wear facial masks, are already wearing the “rear-end” precautions.
They want to show off their dedication to wokeness.
As a result, they walk funny and usually cannot think straight
BTW, this measure was proposed for cows, because they exhaust a lot of methane.
Except, speaking as an almost 4 decades long owner of a major Wisconsin dairy farm, all those greenies demanding no cows cause methane cow farts just show their basic biological ignorance.
Cows are ruminants. The methane comes from methanogens in their first ‘stomach’, called the rumen, where cellulose and hemicellulose in grass and hay are decomposed by these Archea ‘bacteria’ into digestible simpler sugars. Also called foregut fermentation. The methane produced is emitted when cows burp up the resulting cud, chew it again to add saliva, then swallow it back into their true stomach for digestion. It isn’t cow farts, it’s cow burps what done it.
So cows need masks? Better decorate them with apparatus on both ends, just to be safe.
Could this be termed Fart Sequestration? LOL
Fluid dynamics will influence the virus spreading potential of farts of different sorts.
In short, loud sonorous farts will have turbulent flow, disrupted by rim flapping during delivery.
By contrast the “silent but deadly” type will likely retain laminar flow.
SBD farts with laminar flow will mix less with surrounding air thus retaining their high temperature, as I can personally attest. Thus the ejected gas bolus will experience thermal lifting adding to potential for long distance travel.
While the loud farts with immediate laminar-turbulent transition at rim will equilibrate temperature with surrounding air quite quickly due to the chaotically increased surface-to-volume ratio. Thus they could be “much sound and fury, signifying nothing”.
So it could turn out that the laminar flowing thermally buoyant silent but deadly farts could be appropriately named regarding virus spreading potential.
Universities need to create fart departments. We need more studies and (of course) a lot more funding for studying fart dynamics!
And hey, the scientists need not go far to find test subjects. The universities fraternity will have plenty of test subjects capable of emitting all the farts they need on demand, just supply beer and beans.
Hatter,
It’s gratifying to see someone doing REAL science again! None of this namby-pamby climate pseudoscience, or the politicized plandemic science-of-the-week crap!
Now we’re talking real crap science!!
Glad to be of service, seeking funds and support for a Sir Thomas Crapper Institute for that very purpose!
OK someone has to post Jonny Cash and Ring of Fire 🔥 (it burns burns burns burns!)
https://youtu.be/zI-GGnzSQa4
G’Day Hatter,
May I add to the list of recordings? I have yet to find an audio online, just ads for actual disks. (It dates to the 1940’s.)
“The Original Crepitation Contest – Paul Boomer vs Lord Windesphere “
If someone can come up with a URL, please post it. Thank you…..
Breaking news.
Artsy fartsy is a trueism.
I’m forever blowing covid bubbles.
tiny bubbles…
Now. That image is just wrong on every level.
“Ministers ‘fear coronavirus could be spread by farting in a confined space”
If the Biden administration or anyone else fueling the COVID-19 alarm here in the U.S. thinks I am going to wear a giant mask on my butt, they’ve got another thing coming. Forget it.
Do people tend to fart in public with their knickers down?
I better be careful when I visit the Edinburgh Tattoo
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When I farted in the grocery store and Karen scolded me I told her her mask didn’t work and she wasn’t social distancing properly. :0
The best comment in my opinion. Thanks for the laugh. 🤣
I can’t wait to see what Gretchen Whitmer does to the citizens of Michigan with this one.
I live in Michigan and was having such a great time reading all of these humorous posts… and then YOU had to mention not my governor or more affectionately known as sugar tits.
“He asked a colleague to break wind directly onto two Petri dishes from a distance of 5 centimetres, first fully clothed, then with his trousers down.”
And thus he “proved” (subject to statistical significance) that the first fart of a series of two non-spontaneous farts forced out by an experimental subject wasn’t as full of germs as the second.
We are all going to die. What we do between the realization and the fact determines our success in life.
I disbelieve masking or mASSking counts as a success.
The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.
In cargo cults, probably. In genes, maybe. The science is indeterminate.
It was a known fart at work : Before the turn of the year, even, that Facts could pass through 3 LAYERS of clothing: so what was the point of wearing masks at work in large Aeromaintenance workshops?
In the interests of public health, all farts must now be ignited.
In other news, police are now testing fart detecting cameras.
I thought politicians would need to worry about the feces coming from their mouths.
Jim,
So many of them suffer from severe rectal-cranial inversion that there is little difference for them now!
In an ironic twist of fate the face diaper may become the butt diaper. All it takes is for some of the chronically afraid to demand N95 butt covers and it will be our social duty to comply.
This gives a whole new meaning to the term “viral load!”
In completely unrelated news, introducing Massks! They pinch your cheeks together while covering your exhaust to help prevent COVID transmission. Wear them to prevent the spread!
Thanks, everyone! I needed a laugh today more than I expected. 😆
Here in Australia, “authorities” have been testing household waste water and sewage for the virus and have found it present. They don’t say if the virus they found is viable.
It’s just shows you the madness we have to endure here in Australia. We here in New South Wales (NSW) are expecting increased lockdown measures and the lockdown to be extended until mid-September.
Our Chief Health Officer (CHO) in NSW claims to be a doctor but I can’t find out what that is. The last qualification recorded I found is a Masters in Public Health in 1997. No other qualification/experience in 26 years and she has not worked in the Health sector at all. Our Health Minister is an ex-lawyer and ex-teacher, no medical qualifications or any experience working in the health sector and yet he is advising the Govn’t of a state with a population of over 8+ million people. Then goes on to say anti-lockdown protesters in Sydney on the 24th were “boofheads” (Australian saying, someone who is a little slow, or maybe just does silly things).
The CHO from another state, South Australia, trying to explain testing;
Each of the states are in breach of many Commonwealth Acts/Laws which overrule state laws.
https://commonlaw.earth/covid-downloads/
It’s utter madness.
Virus present, or a small genetic sequence was identified in the PCR amplification?
In NSW, Australia “authorities” use a Ct value of 40 which basically means the tiniest fragment produces a “positive” result when the candidate isn’t infectious as the virus load is so small and unviable.
We are not told. But given the PCR here in NSW uses a Ct of 40, you can guarantee it’s just a tiny fragment with ZERO infectious risk. Proof PCR is being used as a political tool, not a diagnostic tool (Which it was never designed to be used that way).
For what it’s worth, the CDC wants to dump the RT-PCR assay as it doesn’t seem to be able to distinguish between CV-19 and the seasonal flu.
It’s extremely bizarre. Corona and the flu (influenza) are totally different viruses.
Which inevitably leads to the question: how many of the stated Covid-19 cases over the past 18 months actually were Covid-19?
Is this guy from NSW?
https://twitter.com/camus37/status/1419247343812161537
Yes he is. Not seen him before. Another highly paid, secure income, Govn’t bureaucrat.
Oh yes, the woman who told her state that catching a football kicked into the crowd at an AFL game was a COVID vector and then, having been internationally mocked, tried to back out by saying she was clearly being tongue in cheek.
Which makes it all okay, because the population love it when someone nominally in authority decides to branch into stand up comedy.
So maybe the vaccine passport (passport of shame) is a joke and people should produce fake ones for better comedic effect?
I refuse to. However, I learned today that there are powers in Australia that allows states to force people to be administered medicine without consent. That is in breach of the Nuremberg Act of 1947 and many UN acts.
hi Patrick usually reserved for seriously at risk to self or others psych patients in involuntary admissions scenarios….theoretically
a large swath of aged care patients get given psych meds to keep them biddable and also get ALL the going jabs regardless ie flu every yr and the less than good shingles vax that GAVE people n kids shingles!!
better hope someones got the records cos the pneumonia vax is ONLY meant to be 10yrly due to adverse events from the phenol in it as preservative/adjuvant effects
Yes I know. However, it is being considered for *EVERYONE*. Mandated vaccinations are being considered, and it is the state premiers who think the protests of last Saturday were a worry, think again if this “mandate” comes to pass.
She also said we must not talk to friends and people we know in shops etc.
This gem from Fred Guttenberg (“victim of gun violence”, hater of Tucker Carlson, supporter of harassement of people Fred Guttenberg hates, BFF of Eric Swalwell):
https://twitter.com/fred_guttenberg/status/1419286833289064457
Not sure what accountability means for Fred “let’s harass TV anchors in stores” Guttenberg!
“It’s just 100 days of masking”
Another use for Griff’s butt plug.
The green… not Green, house effect.
This somehow reminded me of the Mel Brooks movie Blazing Saddles; the scene sitting around the campfire eating beans. Good thing Covid wasn’t a problem::)). Back in the 80’s I had a patient who played the pharmacist in the movie. He told me they spent so much time laughing they could hardly get anything done.
I would so love to see a properly set up fart study, it’s something I long wondered about.
And, what about the ‘filtering’ trousers/skirts bottoms and their contact with seats?
(and, people only wash hands AFTER they opened the stall door, so it’s possible to pick up droplets from the last user on the door handle and get unlucky despite handwashing if they stick to a skin crevice)
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. It is unlikely that you will get exposed to covid but it happens; often with no clue of the source. It is prudent to prepare your immune system for the event.
IMO it is at-best irresponsible that essentially no one has made prominently available to the public the importance of adequate vitamin D to reduce the risk of getting sick with covid or anything else. Normal vit D is considered by medicos to be anywhere between 30 and 100 ng/ml. I have been taking 5000 IU vit D plus 2000 IU from a fish capsule every day for a year (I’m way past my use-by date, 180 lb, and don’t get much sun) and my level recently checked at 65 ng/ml. I also take 15 mg zinc and 250 mg vit C every day.
Available data has demonstrated that low vit D increases the risk of a bad outcome from covid. People with comorbidities e.g. obesity, diabetes are often deficient (< 20 ng/ml) in vit D. Low vit D is associated with bad outcome from covid. People living at high latitudes and/or with darker skin tone are more likely to have low vit D. Adequate vit D greatly reduces the risk of a bad outcome. https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/2020/09/25/adequate-levels-of-vitamin-d-reduces-complications-death-among-covid-19-patients/ Taking a vit D supplement is probably a good idea even if you have been vaccinated.
“Adequate vit D greatly reduces the risk of a bad outcome”
IOW, systemic racism of Nature
Nature doesn’t play favorites. Lighter skin tone at low latitudes increases risk of skin cancer.
Fauci FIRST mentioned D in September of last year.
That proves he is a racist.
With his incredible qualifications there is no way he didn’t know the importance of D to People of Color.
Being a Democrat, he was willing to sacrifice POC to make TRUMP! look bad. The more POC dying, the worse for TRUMP!
total BS… or wiffs of it.
australia locks down AGAIN…. lockdowns work so well, they just keep doing them… like a tootsie pop, how many lockdowns will it take to get back to life prior to 2020? Answer…. as many as it takes according to Australian govt.
Call me crazy, but it seams like disparate versions of the Wuflu will be around for decades. The leaky vaccine will/is producing vaccine resistant versions. Lock downs forever??
sinovac using countries seem to be getting the “interesting variants” like delta and Lambda dont they? …hmm?
Lock downs forever?
I suggested as much middle of last year. What better way to keep the masses under control?
Yes, we keep letting infected people into the country just so we can have some more lockdowns.
“It all started with an enquiry from a nurse,” Dr Karl Kruszelnicki
Oh yes, wacky crazy Dr Karl who is hip with the kids down at the ABC’s National Youth Network.
Credit where credit is due, Karl is entertaining.
On the other hand he is a radio personality and he process for answering questions on air was almost universally as follows
-Take question from listerner
-Stall
-Make joke about how awesome group sex is*
-Read out the answer his assistants have just looked up for him
*not making that up. Two or three times a show.
Karl is entertaining, and seems good natured and friendly, but still an entertainer with a good support team and fast ‘search’ fingers.
Believes CO2 is evil as well, although in his defence when you work on the ABC you need to toe the line.
Well some people call face masks “face nappies”. So maybe they are right.
I call them coffe filters.
Solution: wear your mask as a nappy.
A vegan diet is conducive to farting. It should be outlawed, verboten!
One, the Vegans shall not be offended, told to go back to Vega or called illegal extraterrestrials.
Two, this would be like killing a golden goose. The more flatulence there is, the more work for Fart Police.
Bats fart. They are up there laying down coronatrails above our heads. We are doomed.
The corona virus is present in our urine and feces. In the netherlands, they check the sewage water for the presence of the virus and use it as one of hte tools to map the spread of the virus.
The question is, is the virus still alive and able to do its work as a virus. In my humble opinion, that will be difficult. Any living organisms can survive within a range of environmental conditions. Humans survive between -50C and +50C; fish have a much smaller range. Fish can only survive if their water is is a certain pH-range. Viruses are the same. They like the pH of round 7. Due to the acid in our stomach, the pH down there is much lower than this. The corona virus has a very difficult time surviving there.
So what every virus comes out the other end is likely unable to do any damage anymore.
All instruments(medical) had to be autoclaved at over 100C due to HIV. You are mistaken about the upper limit of survivability of viruses.
early on I kept suggesting that PHAGE therapies would be useful
the russians used to take sewer outfall samples find the phages that were present and killing the required virus and breeding them up as therapies that DID work very well.
pity we are so IYI nowdays isnt it?
putting the loo lid DOWN before you flush is recommended at ALL times due to aerosolisation of fecal matter by the flush
thats been known for a long time but rarely followed by most
Ever see the Myth Busters program on the abundance of poo distributed by aerosol in the bathroom? It gets everywhere, including on toothbrushes!
Many public loos (at least here in the states) don’t have a lid to put down.
Wet or dry?
If a Rona fart is dangerous then a Rona shaft must be a major disaster! Major HAZMAT.
If a Rona fart is dangerous then a Rona shart must be a major biological disaster.
What’s next? An N 95 version of Depends?
So, the solution to this part of the problem is to avoid eating beans?
As noted by various others, a good and hearty exhalation of intestinal gases will definitively clear a room in less time than it takes to type this sentence. Perhaps the use of a colostomy bag could solve the problem, except that the essence is the problem, never mind the projectile quality or force of expulsion.
What’s next? Burping after a hearty meal spreads Covid??? It’s things like this that have me contemplating which bottle of wine to open this evening when I chow down on a plate of kielbasa with mixed beans, carrots, celery and onions. Usually, I consume Diet Coke or iced tea, but wine looks like a better choice right now.
Somebody please wake me when we get back to the Real World.
Good, but you are missing the power angle. How can mere “avoid eating beans” create more tax-funded jobs or at least increases importance of the existing ones? It doesn’t!
Now, creating a bean police, selling beans only to those who present vaccine passports, audits, raids on fart-easies… buying off police, with internal security and journalists jumping those who didn’t share…
Come on now, be honest…
Who here has not bet on a fart and lost?
Now we know, COVID didn’t come from a lab in China, it came from Raxacoricofallapatorius. It was the gas exchange what done it.
Doctor Who: “Excuse me. Would You mind Not Farting While I’m saving the world?” – YouTube
Jack Nicholson said it best in the 2007 film The Bucket List: “Never trust a fart.”
I always thought that was part of Billy Connolly’s advice on turning 60:
The global warming fart stopper also works to stop covid! Please buy the entire set – one size fits all.
And you just know that someone… somewhere… already tries to get funding for this fresh expanse of Science™. Now that fartology was demonstrated to be of eschatological importance too, it’s only a matter of time.