Video follows.
Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Maryland, USA (acting as Explosives Design and Performance Subcontractor to Main Demolition Contractor, Dallas Demolition of Houston, Texas who was working for RiverCap Ventures of Rocky River, Ohio, the General Demolition Contractor) performs the successful explosives felling of 90, Mitsubishi 1000A Wind Turbines in New Mexico.
No effort was made to preserve foundations or other wind farm infrastructure. CDI’s crew felled the 90 Units in two (2) mobilizations to the site, permitting the Wind Farm Owner to complete salvage of blades and drive-train elements from some of the wind turbines to provide replacement parts for similar Units they operate at other wind farm locations. The Units were safely felled, exactly per plan, and ahead of schedule.
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Yeah, but those were built 100 years ago with obsolete technology, right griff?
Modern life cycle on low volume, high tech stuff is less than 20 years, no matter what it is. Nobody wants to be on the hook for storing the spares inventory. For things meant to “last 25 years” without spares, its even worse, because when spares are needed, there aren’t any, and the OEM has moved on.
Blow it up and repeat the cycle.
But what happens to all the bits they can’t use for spares or recycle?
Blades etc to landfill?
Are they going to replace the windmills with new ones, or will there be 90000 tons of concrete left dotted around the landscape?
Presumably all the copper wire connections to the grid will have some use/value?
They will have to be quick before the local villains cotton on and nick it.
In all it would remind me of the concrete bases from derelict WW2 A-A and radar sites left on some heathland where I grew up.
From the article above “…no effort was made to preserve foundations of other wind farm infrastructure…” Blown up, rubble removed for whatever rebar might be salvageable I presume. Whatever bits remained would either be removed at the landowners instruction or left in pieces.
I don’t believe that after that fall many parts would be salvagable. Watch what happens to them.
I agree completely, most will have to go for recycling.
After all, I wouldn’t expect to reuse many parts from a car that had fallen 150ft off a cliff!
not recycling land fill
More likely, “land cover”.
Oh no.They can be shipped to the ocean and used to build jettys and reduce erosion coming from “rising oceans”.
The article said “No effort was made to preserve foundations”
I think the foundations will be there for a very long time yet.
10 years left till it is all over, we are told.
A post from 2018:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/24/a-2019-resolution-honesty-in-energy-policy/#comment-2566340
Green energy (wind and solar) requires almost 100% spinning reserve, due to intermittency. That is why it is uneconomic energy nonsense.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/11/16/stacking-concrete-blocks-is-a-surprisingly-efficient-way-to-store-energy/#comment-2520849
Here’s an even better solution:
1. Build your wind power system.
2. Build your back-up system consisting of 100% equivalent capacity in gas turbine generators.
3. Using high explosives, blow your wind power system all to hell.
4. Run your back-up gas turbine generators 24/7.
5. To save even more money, skip steps 1 and 3.
I suppose, that after the subsidies dried out, it was no longer profitable, to run and
maintain those wind turbines…
It’s a pity for all the wasted energy, steel, concrete, other materials … and taxpayer money.
You are correct Eric – wind power was always a mandate-and-subsidy scam.
Do you know that wind power gets “first access” to the grid, and reliable, dispatchable, cheaper gas turbine power is routinely backed off to make room for the wind power? Could any idea be more absurd? Scam.
Now add to that the fact that increased atmospheric CO2 is not causing dangerous global warming. Scam x Scam = Scam^2
Now add to that the high probability that the cause of increased atmospheric CO2 is primarily natural, not man-made. Scam x Scam x Scam = Scam^3
All correct except the last paragraph, Allen. There is zero probability that the cause of increased atmospheric CO2 is primarily natural.
Nature is a net REMOVER of CO2 from the atmosphere. We know from measurements that that has been the case every year since at least 1958. Mankind’s CO2 emissions are currently about double the rate at which nature removes CO2 from the atmosphere, but as mankind’s emissions decline, that will no longer be the case.
Nature’s accelerating removal of CO2 from that atmosphere is a looming problem, because it means that when mankind’s CO2 emissions decline by more than about half, the atmospheric CO2 level will begin to fall, with negative consequences for agriculture. If mankind’s CO2 emissions dropped to “net zero” then the atmospheric CO2 concentration would fall precipitously, which would be a slow-moving but ever worsening disaster for mankind and nature.
And if they decide to not skip steps 1 and 3, they could still save some money by just installing the demo charges during step 1!
There are still plenty of windmills -using the old technology – standing in Europe after several hundred years. Progress?
Yeah, they don’t make ’em liked they used to.
Just like in Germany . When the subsidy finishes , [ 20 years I think ], they pull them down as they can only make any money from the [ large ,] subsidies . And because Germany has so many , they also have the most expensive electricity in the world .
https://www.thegwpf.com/german-wind-farms-to-be-terminated-as-subsidies-run-out/
Great…and just what are they going to salvage from those blades?
Hardcore for road foundations?
Been tried?
Only the metals, the blades will be chopped up and buried. You can recycle GRP, but it is expensive, and not worth it.
Yes, you’re right…not much value in them, impossible to recycle and I don’t think there’s much metal in the blades. Just more landfill…
6′ under is probably the best place for windmills.
Zero metal in the blades, they are all GRP
I had to look up GRP.
In the US it’s called FRP, “fiber reinforced plastic”.
Fiberglass is commonly used, hence, GRP, “glass reinforced plastic”.
https://defifiberglass.com/frp-vs-grp-whats-the-difference/
I’m sure all those “green” windmill blades use carbon-free plastics. (Probably made from recycled carbon free tires.)
If they didn’t have so much glass in them, you could presumably grind them up and add them to the fuel mix for coal-fired power plants. However, I suspect that the fiberglass content makes them unsuitable for waste-to-energy tech. (I’d like to be wrong!)
The video shows that blades and the mechanical components were severely damaged by the demolition.
They have to be kidding.
Those blades were totally trashed.
Part salvaging was done before felling. At 1:48 you can see several units in the background with missing blades.
C’mon man.
Those missing blades blew off ages ago when their governors failed 🙂
Well they sure didn’t salvage many of the blades in the video I watched.
The description wasn’t really specific on the amount that they salvaged before the felling, only that “some” were. At the timestamp I mentioned you can see some that had their blades removed. A total of 90 turbines were destroyed and we only saw a fraction of that total in the video.
Exactly, they arent salvaged at all they are junk.
And what of those massive concrete foundations? In my part of the country those things are in fields actively being farmed. What are they going to do with them when the time comes? And then there are the gravel roads they put in leading to the base of each unit.
Leases call for restoring the land to the pre-existing grade.
If you can find the original leasee. Many in the US are corporations with tangled foreign ownership that quickly go bankrupt after subsidies run out.
The only resort is an upfront bond.
We wrote that provision into our NYS town’s ordinances as wind sites crept up from PA to the Finger Lakes.
The encroachment of our beautiful ridges stopped on on small town immediately south of us. There is no way of knowing if the bond requirement stopped them or even if the NYS government, who favored those developments, would have allowed our provision to stand, push come to shove.
dry pads to put a silo/feeder on?
shed base for shelters?
One farmer was interviewed about his lease. He was not expecting the concrete to go away. Much like the demolition in the video.
As for the utility in using it for a foundation for something else? Maybe they can put up 300 -foot white crosses. There is a religiosity continuity to that. – Or statues of Biden.
They get covered with local dirt, fertilized and planted.
The coolest way to explode a wind generator is to turn the governor off. The blades will overspeed in high winds, the tips will break the sound barrier and the resulting asymmetrical loads on the airfoils results in an immediate and dramatic “explosion”. Search “exploding wind turbine” watch the videos for yourself.
Yes, but does that drop the tower?
Usually yes …. catastrophically. 😊👍
And they would save on the explosives.
But it’s more fun that way.
Unsafe.
A lot of fun stuff is that.
’When wind turbines are no longer useful’
One could argue they were only ever useful to generate subsidies since any power generation was purely coincidental.
Do we know why?
More of that 😀
The earliest mention I can find of the Mitsubishi 1000A wind turbines is from 2003.
All of these are no more than about 18 years old.
So much for 25+ year lifespans.
With good maintenance:
https://www.power-technology.com/features/oldest-operating-wind-turbine-tvindkraft/#:~:text=Wind%20turbines%20have%20an%20average%20lifetime%20of%20about,the%20first%20multi-megawatt%20wind%20turbine%20in%20the%20world.
I wonder what the over all cost has been versus the amount of energy produce? Hence, what was the return on investment? Was it worth it from a cost benefit point of view. Without knowing the details probably not much. Symbolism.
It doesn’t matter, the subsidies were the goal.
Sounds like a labour of love where economics was not a consideration. It would be nice to know the cost of maintenance and refurbishment.
Good maintenance is expensive 500 ft in the air.
Especially at sea.
Replace good with any.
From the article,
So this oldest operating wind turbine is a running as an historical exhibit – not as a normal operating generation system.
2002 in the USA. You will find quite a lot of information at https://www.mhi.co.jp/technology/review/pdf/e404/e404238.pdf
Outage hampers Poland’s main power plant, felt across Europe
With sun power and windmills no chance to recover…
Will Nord Stream 2 do anything to solve this single-source problem?
Interesting article. The article claims that Poland will be moving forward with new wind projects, but this article says otherwise. Has anything changed? Polish government: wind turbines will be scrapped within 17 years – Watts Up With That?
No, the article just puts forth claims by environmental groups (notably the WWF) that Poland needs more wind farms to provide “diversity” in its power generation.
Somewhere, a bird, a bat, sighs in relief. Clear the Green blight. Go green. Emit.
Not to mention millions of insects. Migratory insects use wind corridors to travel. Guess where wind turbines are put.
Lol arrived here after doing the obligatory click-thru that all self respecting men must make when they see “demolition” in their feed
Watched 3X with multiple scroll backs. 👍
A very satisfying video to watch. As far as I am concerned, they can blow up all the wind turbines in the U.S.
KILL WIND TURBINES, NOT AVIAN WILDLIFE.
They peddled all the hoopla on wind energy. Then the environmental litigation got the fans shut down for spring and fall bird migration.
too much fun. Those guys love coming to work each day.
The end of an error
Great double entendre.
It’s a pun.
Nope … double entendre in which a pun is often a poor facsimile. It could also be taken as a pun (giving it the distinction of a possible triple entendre).
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/puns-vs-double-entendres-good-bad-never-ending-confusion-greg-reese?trk=public_profile_article_view
Pun. Two different words; era and error. You are changing a phrase by substituting a similar sounding word. A double entendre is a single phrase with more than one potential meaning.
Children make nutritious snacks, is a double entendre. Single phrase, two meanings.
He gave his sons a farm he named “Focus,” because that’s where the sons raise meat, is a triple pun. Sun, rays, and meet were changed to sons, raise, and meat.
That is a classic example of ambiguity. The above sentence is just bad English, vagueness and likely unintentional using a poor choice of verb. It is most definitely not a double entendre which, by definition is intentional … and usually clever.
“You can tune a guitar, but you can’t tuna fish.” is a classic pun.
I would guess that few wind turbines would reach their 25 year life expectancy. Typically they only break even in terms of emissions and energy at the 15 year mark, based on rosy predictions, so they only have a 10 year period of making an energy profit, something most do not achieve.
The costs of removal of the defunct edifices to monumental stupidity are never factored in to the monetary, carbon, and energy budget of wind power, let alone the environmental damage. They subsidy farmers just whistle and turn a blind eye to the long term environmental damage. Even the concrete foundations diminish the amount of farm production long term. I will bet that the hundreds of years of lost growing capacity were not factored in to the business model. Perhaps the wind power producers need to continue to pay off the farm owners for the lease of their land until they make good- remove the foundations and roads.
Never mind, all these inconvenient costs are bankrolled by subsidies paid by the taxpayers.
I propose a change in name from wind farms to subsidy farms.
Got any numbers to back those assertions up?
Why don’t you provide numbers to disprove the assertions ?
The land under those windmills was not farmland. You probably couldn’t use it for any other purpose because it is an “irreplaceable desert habitat that would take thousands of years to recover from a person walking across the land”.
“irreplaceable desert habitat that would take thousands of years to recover from a person walking across the land”every time I see that i just can’t get over the massive stupidity it takes to write such garbage. I presently live in the Phoenix area ten thousand years ago it was a pine forest. When the glacier disappeared up north it reverted back to desert. Where I lived before 10,000 years ago it was covered either with ice or water, when the glacier disappeared water drained away and a rich soil was left behind other place the glacial drift was covered in a short time by a soil it richness was dependents on the amount rainfall that occurred after that. Desert can disappear and reappear in a wink of and eye in geological time scales us puny humans have little to do with it, foot prints or not.
OT
– probably deserves a separate article
https://www.rechargenews.com/wind/icelandic-offshore-wind-to-pump-green-power-to-uk-under-21bn-anglo-us-mega-plan/2-1-1014282
If some of my taxes are spent with these goons I won’t be happy – no siree .
They do the same thing to coal power plants: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/12/19/demolition-largest-coal/
From the linked report –
“All these people who watched this smokestack come down, they’re part of its history,” said Calvin Bigman, another local who came out to see the demolition. “They’re not only here to watch the action; they grew up being supported by their fathers and mothers who worked here. They know there’s a lot of history. I’m pretty sure they’re sad and they didn’t want to see this plant go down.”
Calvin’s late father, David Bigman, helped build the plant in the 70s and benefited from a good-paying union job in an otherwise economically depressed area. The younger Bigman worked off and on at the plant for 30 years as an electrician and welder.
“I was hired to tear it down,” Bigman said, “but I didn’t want to be a part of it because I didn’t want to see it go.”
He added that many of his friends had to sell their houses and move to Wyoming or Idaho to work in other coal-fired plants. “It’s going to change Page, which is also a tourist town,” Bigman said. “It’s going to have to rely on tourists now to keep the place alive.”
It also had a working life of 47 years and it’s lowest year of production was 2016 which 61% of it’s rating. That is under the performance part of the link … try also reading the economic impact. Then there was the social impact to the Navajo as they made up 83% of plant employees and 93% of mine employees, resulting in about 850 direct tribal positions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Generating_Station
Please come back to us when you can show us any Wind Farm that can do any of that.
Probably the Aragonne Mesa windfarm. Went online in 2006, died 2021.
Yes, agree – see project link. The plant was ONLY 15 years old!
https://www.leewardenergy.com/projects/allegheny-ridge-wind-farm-17/
Why exactly was it taken down?
To con a new set of investors in a new upgraded farm … to make it profitable you just need to build it bigger 🙂
https://www.renewableenergymagazine.com/wind/ge-renewable-energy-announces-235-mw-repower-20210114
we can only wonder how big they’ll get!
Fun, I am sure, but who cleaned up the broken fiberglass. Don’t even ask about foundations.
Where are these turbines located in New Mexico? Who owns the turbines? Who owns the land on which the demolished turbines sit? Were the turbines part of a still currently operating wind farm? Were environmental or governmental permits of some kind needed to approve the demolition? If so, from which agencies?
If we did the thermodynamics + economics right from the start, they’d never be built.
Same for solar-panels + rare earths.
Solar is worse.
Finally, someone knows what to do with these monstrosities. Now what to do with all the waste they have created.
Simple solutions just appear.
The video rang a bell. About 25 years ago when my now 34 year old sun was about 9, a cable channel had a show called “Dynamite Dynasty” We taped it, and he watched it over and over. it was about the Loizeaux family who are the founders and owners of Controlled Demolition Inc. I couldn’t finmd any links to that show, but there have been lots of articles about them:
“A Family Legacy, Built to Withstand Dynamite” By Steve Friess | Nov. 12, 2007 | https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/12/us/12implode.html
Is it apropos to say, “You didn’t build that”?
Surely the worn blades and mechanical parts can be replaced on the tower without destroying the whole thing? Or were they erected in the wrong place so not economic?
Trick question?
They aren’t economic anywhere
I doubt there’s enough subsidy for that.
No my best guess is the new turbines are much bigger weigh much more, my younger brother would have all the details he spent most of his adult live overseeing these things going up. He has spent most of his adult life working for the construction companies that put them up his main job for many years was bidding the work and seeing the project of beginning to end. He has made good money doing it. May have put up the one that just cut down. He been all over the USA putting these monuments of stupidity up.
Nope.
Let’s break it down in general terms.
You have a huge concrete base, a big steel column, a rotating box with the generator and the blades.
So the assumption is we want to replace the generator and the blades with new models.
Where are these blades and generators? Up the top of the tower.
So two remove the old units you are going to need cranes. Big ones that – one assumes – cost big money to run.
Then you have to refurbish the existing mounts for the new generator, which is probably the easy bit, and then you need to life the new equipment back up to the top.
Then test and commission.
So, you get to keep the concrete and the post, but the blades and turbines are new, both to manufacture and install. Then there is the down time, the temp decommission and removing the old blades/turbine.
At a very rough guess I would say replacing these parts would be almost as expensive as a new install.