The Greenhouse Effect In A Water World

by Bob Irvine

A knowledge of Greenhouse gases is fundamental to any understanding of global surface temperatures. The presence of GHGs in our atmosphere has increased the global surface temperature by about 33C.

There are multiple lines of evidence, however, that challenge the strong water vapour feedback to a small initial CO2 forcing.  These strong positive feedbacks are central to the IPCC narrative.

These lines of evidence include.

  • The failure of all models and catastrophic warming projections.
  • The stubborn refusal of atmospheric Precipitable Water Vapour (PWV) concentration to rise in recent years.
  • The strength of convection cells in the tropics that have kept tropical temperatures approximately the same for many millions of years.
  • Irrigation and extra humidity generally coincide with cooler temperatures.
  • The hot spot as a signature of the positive Water Vapour (WV) feedback and its opposite, the negative lapse rate feedback, has not occurred.

INTRODUCTION

The IPCC and most sceptics believe that a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will produce about 1.04 ± 0.1C (Andrews 2012, CMIP5) warming at equilibrium if we assume that there are no feedbacks in the system. This is not controversial.

The IPCC then multiplies this by three to get an after feedback warming of 3.0 ± 1.5C largely due to the amplifying effect of extra water vapour and cloud changes. This has been their position for 40 odd years now. It is political death to change your mind, apparently. Positive feedbacks of this size would be destabilizing, utterly improbable, and are likely the result of political interference in the scientific process.

These exaggerated feedbacks have caused all the IPCCs projections to fail within 10 years of their announcement. The first of these was James Hansen in 1988.

To understand why these models have failed we need to understand the workings of the atmosphere and the way increasing CO2 increases temperature. We also need to understand the important role water vapour and convection play in this process.

THE CO2 GREEN HOUSE EFFECT

Increasing CO2 warms the atmosphere in two ways.

These are the “surface” and “atmosphere” effect. These two mechanisms combine to give a total effect as depicted in Figure 1.

  1. The Surface or Radiative Effect.

There is a transparent window to space at wavelengths approximately between 9 to 16 microns. Long wave radiation in this wavelength range generally passes unrestricted to space through this window. The introduction of CO2 to the atmosphere restricts radiative flow centred around 15 microns. It closes this window slightly. This warms the planet, as shown in Figure 1 but loses all potency by the time CO2 concentrations reach about 600 ppm.

2. The Atmosphere Effect

The atmosphere effect involves the balancing of two factors. Higher CO2 concentrations mean a higher average CO2 emission height.

  • A Higher average emission height means lower gas concentrations at this emission height. This implies a longer free path for energy photons with a consequent cooling of the planet as more of these photons make it out to space.
  •  A higher emission height also means lower individual emissions due to lower temperatures at the average emission height. This implies an opposite tendency to warm the planet.

Figure 1. The two ways (Radiative and Atmosphere) CO2 increase causes warming and their total effect. The “Y” access is “outgoing radiation”, so a decreasing line indicates warming of the planet. Acknowledgement to Clive Best for this graphic.

The Atmosphere Effect

At lower CO2 concentrations changes in individual emissions due to temperature do not play as big a part as changes in free path length. At these lower concentrations, temperatures actually fall due to the atmosphere effect as CO2 concentrations increase.

By calculating the radiation to space from each level, these two conflicting forces can be combined to give an effective emission height for varying CO2 concentrations. See Figure 2.

The net result is shown as the “Atmosphere” curve in Figure 1. Emission to space via the “Atmosphere” effect alone increases as CO2 concentrations increase from zero to 300 ppm cooling the atmosphere. At concentrations higher than 300 ppm emission to space falls warming the planet.

Clive Best observes (Ref. 1) that this 300 ppm just happens to be the historical pre-industrial CO2 concentration. Can this possibly be a coincidence?

Figure 2. Varying emission heights for different CO2 concentrations. Notice greater emissions to space due to the “Atmosphere” effect at 280 ppm than at 200 ppm. The “Atmosphere” effect cooled the planet as CO2 concentrations rose from 200 to 280 ppm. Acknowledgement to Clive Best for this graphic.

HOW DO GHGs OPERATE IN A WATER WORLD?

GHGs are produced by two dominant mechanisms. Solar heating of the oceans (WV) and the Carbon cycle (CO2).

The sun delivers 340 W/M2 to the earths system. This is reduced to 240 W/M2 after the earth’s albedo or reflectivity is considered. This 240 W/M2 must eventually be reradiated back to space either at the surface or at some level of the atmosphere. The earth system needs to be in balance.

If the atmosphere had no GHGs or there was no atmosphere, then the earth would reradiate this 240 W/M2 at or near the surface. By calculation, the surface would be, in this case about minus 18C.

As GHG concentrations increase, the passage of this radiation to space is restricted. This warms the surface which increases emissions at the surface. A hotter surface emits more radiation. No system can emit more than it receives so the average emission height must rise in the atmosphere to the point where the 240 W/M2 is again radiated to space. The earth system must remain in balance.

This process has developed on the earth to the current settings. The surface is now at plus 15C and radiating at about 390 W/M2 . The atmosphere cools as we rise to the point where it averages minus 18C and radiates 240 W/M2 to space. The earth system is in balance again. This height is known as the emission height and averages about 5 km at the present time (higher in the tropics and lower at the poles).

The Greenhouse gases are therefore responsible for the 33C (15C minus -18C) warming seen at the earth’s surface. This greenhouse effect is currently made up of approximately 20% CO2 and other minor GHGs and 80% Water Vapour (WV) and cloud. The 80% GHG contribution of WV and cloud is almost totally caused by the sun’s 240W/M2. The 3.7W/M2 added by a doubling of CO2 makes very little difference to the atmosphere’s WV and cloud content, for obvious reasons.

CO2 also has an efficacy problem when it comes to ocean warming. Water is opaque to the wavelengths reemitted by CO2 while solar energy is absorbed efficiently. It is quite possible that this further reduces the CO2 effect on WV, although this is difficult to quantify as energy from CO2 is returned immediately to the atmosphere as both radiation and latent heat.

See Ref. 2 for a summary of the various estimates of WV feedback.

It is no surprise then that no rise in atmospheric WV content has been detected in recent years despite CO2 concentrations moving from 280 ppm to 410 ppm due largely to human activity.

http://eosweb.larc.nasa.gov/project/nvap/table_nvap.html see also http://www.leif.org/EOS/2012GL052094-pip.pdf

Figure 3. Global Precipitable Water Vapour. NASA.

New paper on Global Water Vapor puts climate modelers in a bind – Watts Up With That?

 “Weather And Climate Analyses Using Improved Global Water Vapor Observations” By Vonder Haar Et Al 2012

Figure 4. Global Precipitable Water Vapour. Vonder Haar et al, 2012.

Figure 5. ECMWF(red) and NCEP(blue) Precipitable Water Vapour (PWV) time series averaged over (a) global, (b) tropical, (c) temperate, and (d) polar regions during the period 1979–2014. These are modelled PWV series. (Chen, Lui 2016)

https://doi.org/10.1002/2016JD024917

From the paper’s abstract;

“The variability and trend in global precipitable water vapor (PWV) from 1979 to 2014 are analysed using the PWV data sets from the ERAInterim reanalysis of the European Centre for MediumRange Weather Forecasts (ECMWF), reanalysis of the National Centres for Environmental Prediction (NCEP), radiosonde, Global Positioning System (GPS), and microwave satellite observations. PWV data from the ECMWF and NCEP have been evaluated by radiosonde, GPS, and microwave satellite observations, showing that ECMWF has higher accuracy than NCEP. Over the oceans, ECMWF has a much better agreement with the microwave satellite than NCEP. An upward trend in the global PWV is evident in all the five PWV data sets over three study periods: 1979–2014, 1992–2014, and 2000–2014.     ……..

It is found that ECMWF overestimates the PWV over the ocean prior to 1992. Thus, two more periods, 1992–2014 and 2000–2014, are studied. Increasing PWV trends are observed from all the five data sets in the two periods: 1992–2014 and 2000–2014.”

In other words, the red model in Figure 5 is more accurate and shows close to zero increase in PWV from 1979 to 2014.

I cannot let this pass. Climate science truly is amazing. The hat-tipping to the dominant warming narrative not only knows no bounds it also knows no subtlety. The last two periods mentioned start at the low point of the Mt Pinatubo eruption (1992) and the low point of the strong La Nina in 2000. The only reason they show an increasing upward trend is because they start at the lowest possible points and are run over shorter and shorter periods. Extraordinary!

Also, if ECMWF overestimates the period 1979 to 1992 then so does NCEP as they both have similar rates of declining PWV (0.5mm) as measured using the authors methods.

It should be remembered that both these series, ECMWF and NCEP, are models and subject to the usual biases. The cherry picking of the two later period start dates is, therefore, not a good look. The figures the authors use to justify their conclusion are in the paper linked. They are taken from single year to single year and not smoothed in any way.

These, however, are annoying side issues. PWV has not increased in any significant way since 1979 according to the ECMWF. Without the Mt Chichon eruption in 1982 it is likely that, according to the more accurate ECMWF model, PWV would have fallen over the period 1979 to 2014.

THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS

We have already seen how the main positive feedback (WV and clouds) claimed by the IPCC does not appear to be happening as expected. Now let’s look at the three main negative feedbacks.

  1. Plank Feedback.

A body radiates according to the 4th power of the temperature of that body implying that a large proportion of any warming due to CO2 is quickly returned to space. The initial 1.04C warming from a doubling of CO2 is reduced significantly in this way.

  • Convection.

Higher temperature drives increased convection. The Earth hosts 1000 or more powerful tropical storms at any one time. These storms are driven by water vapour content and temperature. They transfer an enormous amount of energy from the surface to space. Without this transfer of energy, the surface would be significantly hotter.  

Convection in the atmosphere is extremely complex. If the allowances made by the IPCC for convection are only slightly out, their sensitivity estimates will be miles out. This alone could explain the failure of the climate models that are based on these estimates.

The strength of convection in the moist tropics has an enormous stabilising effect as seen in Figure 6 below.

Credits: Christopher R. Scotese. Palemap Project 2015

Figure 6. Convection has kept the tropics approximately the same temperature for many millions of years. There is no significant change in tropical temperatures from a severe icehouse earth to an extreme hothouse earth.

  • The Lapse rate feedback.

A direct result of surface warming from increased CO2 is increased atmospheric moisture content at the surface. This reduces the lapse rate toward the moist adiabat. A reduced lapse rate must mean that condensation and average emission to space occur at a higher altitude.

Condensation at a higher altitude must mean warming of the upper atmosphere, particularly above the tropics. This is known colloquially as the “hot spot”. It is a direct consequence of increased water vapour and is a significant negative feedback for the following reasons.

As CO2 increases it emits from a higher cooler altitude and consequently emits less energy to space, warming the planet (See the “Atmosphere” effect in Figure 1.). The hot spot discussed above increases the temperature at this higher CO2 emission height, thereby reducing the warming effect of CO2. It is for this reason a negative feedback.

This predicted hot spot high above the tropics does not appear to be happening. The most likely explanation for this is that surface warming increases convection to the point where it overwhelms most of the warming from CO2.

The IPCC attempted to hide this lack of a hot spot in the AR5. It is after all critical to their exaggerated positive feedbacks. Professor Christy explains in the quote below.

          “Unfortunately, it was buried in the Supplementary Material of Chapter 10 without comment.  In Fig. 4, I present the figure that appeared in this IPCC section.  I was a reviewer (a relatively minor position in that report) in the AR5 and had insisted that such a figure be shown in the main text because of its profound importance, but the government appointed lead authors decided against it.  They opted to place it in the Supplementary Material where little attention would be paid, and to fashion the chart in such a way as to make it difficult to understand and interpret.”

For the period 1979 to 2016. Compare NASA GISS Model (Top Left) to satellite bulk atmosphere observations from UAH (Bottom Left), RSS (Bottom Right) and the Universal RAwinsonde Observation Program (RAOB) (Balloon Data) (Top Right). The observations clearly indicate the lack of the predicted hot spot.

Figure 7. The lack of a hot spot as actually measured compared to modelled.

CLIMATE MODEL FAILURE

These exaggerated positive feedbacks have caused all the IPCCs forecasts to fail within 10 years of their announcement. These forecasts have consistently failed since the first one was attempted by James Hansen in 1988. See Figure 8 below. The most recent of these is the predicted temperature increase in the Fourth Assessment Report 2007. See Figure 9 below.

Figure 8. Hansen’s failed predictions from 1988. CO2 concentrations have actually grown faster than scenario “A”. The black and red lines are the heavily adjusted surface record (Always adding extra warming on average).

Current CO2 concentrations are increasing at a rate similar to the A1T and B2 scenarios in the 4AR IPCC report copied here. I have used them for this reason.

https://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/spmsspm-projections-of.html

These scenarios result in between 750ppm and 800 ppm CO2 concentration in the year 2100. Read the above link to get a sense of the IPCCs processes and their position on future warming.

Figure 9, The IPCC forecast from 2007 compared to actual temperatures. The red line is the Hadcrut4 temperature series.  It is similar to the NASA GISS series and has been adjusted many times. The blue line is the more accurate Mid Troposphere Satellite Temperature data. The yellow line is the NAS data from 1975. NAS was the precursor of NASA and was considered state of the art in 1975.  The 2007 model predictions (Grey Line) are already 0.7C warmer than the measured data in 2021.

  Five-year averaged values of annual mean (1979-2015) global bulk (termed “midtropospheric” or “MT”) temperature as depicted by the average of 102 IPCC CMIP5 climate models (red), the average of 3 satellite datasets (green – UAH, RSS, NOAA) and 4 balloon datasets (blue, NOAA, UKMet, RICH, RAOBCORE).

Figure 10. The graph presented to the US House Committee on Science, Space and Technology by John Christy in 2016.  According to the GHG theory, Mid-Tropospheric temperature rise is the fingerprint of GHG warming. It is obvious that the models with their high feedbacks produce more warming in this area than do our most accurate temperature measure, the satellites.  The balloon data also agrees well with the satellites and is well below the models.

Reference 1;  Effective Emission Height | Clive Best

Reference 2;  SeaLevel.info climate feedbacks

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Rud Istvan
May 17, 2021 8:35 am

There is an easy way to qualitatively show the model WVF is too high in CMIP5. One of the three main purposes of ARGO was to estimate ocean precipitation via near surface salinity dilution. (The founding documents called this ‘ocean fresh water store’. See my post ARGO fit for purpose? for details.) And in fact, ARGO is showing about twice the ocean precipitation modeled by CMIP5.

There is a largely independent cross check. AR5 had model ECS about 3. Using Lindzens 2012 Bode curve, that is f/(1-f) 0.65. AR5 specifically said WVF doubles the no feedback ECS. The no feedback value calculated using Monckton is 1.16. Say 1.2. That is 1.2*2~2.4 or Bode f/(1-f) 0.5. The 0.15 residual is mostly cloud feedback per AR5 (remember Bode feedbacks are a simple sum). Dessler actually showed in his 2010 paper that cloud feedback is about 0. If precipitation is twice modeled, then the actual WVF is. 0.5/2 about 0.25. Plug 0.25 into lindzen’s Bode curve and out comes an ECS about 1.7, just what the observational energy budget models provide.

May 17, 2021 8:42 am

[[The IPCC and most sceptics believe that a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will produce about 1.04 ± 0.1C (Andrews 2012, CMIP5) warming at equilibrium if we assume that there are no feedbacks in the system. This is not controversial.
The IPCC then multiplies this by three to get an after feedback warming of 3.0 ± 1.5C largely due to the amplifying effect of extra water vapour and cloud changes]]
[[There is a transparent window to space at wavelengths approximately between 9 to 16 microns. Long wave radiation in this wavelength range generally passes unrestricted to space through this window. The introduction of CO2 to the atmosphere restricts radiative flow centred around 15 microns. It closes this window slightly. This warms the planet, as shown in Figure 1 but loses all potency by the time CO2 concentrations reach about 600 ppm.]]

Here again we have the IPCC’s fake physics hoax that refuses to die, no matter how many times it’s slain. Of course 15 microns is the main radiation from dry ice at -78.5C, and can’t melt an ice cube. It’s actually -80C. Guess what? -80C isn’t heat, and can’t warm anything in Earth’s atmosphere or surface. Instead, the Earth surface temperature range is -50C to +50C, thus all of its radiation goes right through atmospheric CO2 untouched, meaning that it can’t have any effect on the climate. This makes the “average CO2 emission height” into meaningless moose hockey. This whole line of thinking is intellectually bankrupt.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-greenhouse-gases-in-the-atmosphere-translate-into-warming-oceans-I-understand-heat-reflected-back-in-the-form-of-infared-light-reacts-more-with-these-gases-to-heat-the-atmosphere-but-how-would-this-trap-heat/answer/TL-Winslow

https://www.quora.com/What-does-science-mean-in-the-following-question-Why-do-people-deny-the-science-of-climate-change/answer/TL-Winslow

What does the IPCC do instead of real climate science? It either pushes video games called computer climate models that bear no relationship to reality and are just hopped-up to output predetermined global warming, or they resort to Communist-style fake statistical measures called Global Avg. Temperatures (GATs) to feed the public to justify their future Five-Year Plans for the Climate when they finally break through to the big bucks, as is about to happen in Biden’s U.S.

https://www.quora.com/Are-The-Global-warming-climate-change-theory-models-oversimplified-and-or-corrupted-by-data-that-is-not-accurately-representative-of-reality-the-main-reason-for-their-dismal-track-record-on-their-predictions-could/answer/TL-Winslow

http://www.historyscoper.com/whatistheuseofglobaltemperature.html

What is needed is not more junk science articles pushing CO2 equilibrium sensitivity, but a population replacement, a new generation of real climate scientists grounded in real not fake physics who don’t owe anything to the corrupt Marxist-run U.N. IPCC. Right now I seem to be the only one, but I’m trying to multiply myself by offering a free online Climate Science 101 course that contains the essence of 50+ years studying physics and thinking about Earth atmospheric science while the IPCC has been busy creating a fake climate science solely to push the CO2 global warming hoax, requiring it to literally turn physics upside-down. Right now if you’re interested in not becoming a dodo bird it’s time to devote study time to master the course so you can keep up with me and my growing student body. Mea culpa: I was busy doing other things for the last 30 years while the IPCC menace grew unchallenged, and hope I’m not to late to stop massive irreversible damage.

http://www.historyscoper.com/climatescience101.html

May 17, 2021 9:11 am

From the post:”The IPCC and most sceptics believe that a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will produce about 1.04 ± 0.1C…”

This is BS.

You get half the temperature rise in two kilos of CO2 than one given the same energy input. You do not get an extra 1 C of temperature rise. Thermodynamics says the energy can be in “any form”. It does not matter if there is IR involved else there would be two values in specific heat tables.

dk_
Reply to  mkelly
May 17, 2021 10:01 am

mkelly — Not at all contradicting you, but it was stated as a belief, of two groups, not attributed to any individual or the author. Not stated as a fact. This was once taught to me as how a writer establishes “common ground” with a potentially unfriendly audience (here? at wuwt? never!). I think the approach is legitimate in a scientific discussion or popular article, but probably not in a propaganda war, and may be a relatively dangerous start position to take in an actual, formal debate. I’m convinced that your technical assessment is, if not absolutely true, much closer than that belief, and frankly I agree that the IPCC’s stated belief is probably deliberately BS, too. But I was able to read through (not necessarily understand or agree with) the rest of the piece.

Reply to  dk_
May 17, 2021 1:09 pm

I did not attribute it to the author I quoted what was in the post. It was stated that IPCC believes it plus most skeptics.

Is it your claim that we should not quote the post when making a comment?

Laws of Nature
Reply to  mkelly
May 18, 2021 8:44 am

Aww,
“doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will produce about 1.04 ± 0.1C”
like 280ppm CO2 in the atmosphere to 560ppm.

“You get half the temperature rise in two kilos of CO2 than one given the same energy input.”
That sentence seems incorrect, because it is measured fact that more CO2 (in trace amounts) leads to more warming!
But maybe you are trying to talk about diminishing returns?
That would be already covered in the original statement, because for the next degree of warming from the direct CO2-effect you would need to double the partial pressure.
It seems to me that this is very well measured and can nowadays be precisely calculated using HITRAN.
Are you saying there is something wrong with that database? (If not, what are you saying?)

Bill Hamm
May 17, 2021 11:27 am

Looking through this, the first thing that bothers me is the switching from concentration in Figure 1 to parts per million in Figure 2, with no way to reconcile the two being given.

Bill Hamm
Reply to  Bill Hamm
May 17, 2021 11:44 am

I just noticed that, under convection, without storms transferring energy to space the earth would be hotter. Windmills take energy from the wind, does that mean with enough windmills, the earth could actually get hotter? So, could windmills actually be contributing to “global warming” at some point?

Dave Fair
May 17, 2021 12:02 pm

After reading all the comments at 11:55 AM (PDT), 5/17/2021, my response is: I’ll just stick with the measurements. TOA radiates at about 225 K. Earth’s surface radiates at about 288 K. Between the two there is alot of work being done to lower that temperature difference. Say what you want, but GHGs do adsorb radiation and release it in all directions through radiation and collision with other molecules. That energy is available to create weather in the atmosphere.

Trick
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 17, 2021 2:17 pm

“TOA radiates at about 225 K” at 12:02pm blog time unedited. Did you mean TOA radiates at 255K global multiannual median?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Trick
May 17, 2021 3:01 pm

Whatever you like.

Steve Z
May 17, 2021 2:19 pm

[QUOTE FROM ARTICLE] “The IPCC and most sceptics believe that a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will produce about 1.04 ± 0.1C (Andrews 2012, CMIP5) warming at equilibrium if we assume that there are no feedbacks in the system. This is not controversial.

The IPCC then multiplies this by three to get an after feedback warming of 3.0 ± 1.5C largely due to the amplifying effect of extra water vapour and cloud changes. This has been their position for 40 odd years now.” [END QUOTE]

The fact that precipitable water vapor has not changed much over 35 years (especially according to the ECMWF measurements) shows that this amplification or positive feedback by water vapor does not occur in reality, and any models based on it are faulty.

Some of the climate models assume that relative humidity remains constant additional CO2 warms the atmosphere. But since warm air can hold more moisture than cold, maintaining a constant relative humidity at a higher temperature requires a higher absolute humidity, or mole fraction water vapor in the air.

This additional water vapor needs to come from somewhere, presumably from additional evaporation from the surface of an ocean or lake. But water has such a high heat of vaporization that the evaporation required to maintain constant relative humidity absorbs about 50 to 70% of the heat need to raise the temperature of a volume of air by 1 degree C. This represents a huge negative feedback on any atmospheric warming due to additional CO2 in the atmosphere. Neglecting this negative feedback in the models causes them to over-estimate the actual temperature rise.

Bob Wentworth
Reply to  Steve Z
May 22, 2021 6:03 pm

This additional water vapor needs to come from somewhere, presumably from additional evaporation from the surface of an ocean or lake. But water has such a high heat of vaporization that the evaporation required to maintain constant relative humidity absorbs about 50 to 70% of the heat need to raise the temperature of a volume of air by 1 degree C. This represents a huge negative feedback on any atmospheric warming due to additional CO2 in the atmosphere. Neglecting this negative feedback in the models causes them to over-estimate the actual temperature rise.

You’re talking about a purely transient effect.

When the water vapor content of the atmosphere is increasing, yes, that consumes some of the heat incident on the surface.

But, in steady state, the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere is not changing. So, it’s not automatically the case that there is any more evaporation (and associated cooling) than there was before the atmosphere was warmed and more water vapor was put into the air.

May 17, 2021 3:15 pm

There should be an increase in water vapour and a decline in low cloud cover since 1995, because of the warm AMO phase, which is a negative feedback to weaker solar wind states since then.

Laws of Nature
May 17, 2021 8:41 pm

Dear Bob,

this is a very nice and well researched article, thank you for posting it here!
(The only critique might be that Earth is not a Blackbody and I seem to recall a discussion of that together with how the rotation frequency affects the surface temperature.. AFAIK the conclusion was that the average Earth´s temperature without atmosphere would be higher than -18°C, but I cant find the post.)

Either way, well done!!

May 18, 2021 3:10 am

“Higher CO2 concentrations mean a higher average CO2 emission height. A Higher average emission height means lower gas concentrations”

You need to rethink this, it is self contradictory.

Irrigation and extra humidity generally coincide with cooler temperatures” Wasnt it Christy who noticed this in California? But more typically, air near a water source has less temperature variation, hot and cold. WV raises minimum temperature, and reduces maximum temperature. VW might amplify average temperature, but its main effect is to reduce extremes of temperature, so even in WV had increased it wouldnt be a bad thing. In fact it would be beneficial, less extremes of temperature.

May 18, 2021 6:04 am

The way I calculate the Lunar global mean surface temperature, is to divide the disk area by two and not four, just for the illuminated hemisphere only, which is roughly in equilibrium with solar irradiance. And then average that with the mean dark side temperature.

Working backwards:
394K x 0.5^0.25 = 331.3
minus 12% albedo is:
331.3 x 0.88^0.25 = 320.9
and averaged with a dark side mean of 95K equals roughly 208K

Now if there was more heat capacity in the regolith to raise the dark side to a mean 190K, it would make a small difference to the maximum temperature of the sunlit side, but a huge difference to the global mean.
Earth’s sunlit side is cooler than on the Moon, but Earth’s night side remains far warmer. Are we to believe that the greenhouse effect keeps the ocean surfaces warm at night?