Scene from "The Wicker Man" (1973), a cult horror classic about nature worshippers in an isolated British island community.

Claim: “Venerating Ancestors”, Public Ritual Nature Appreciation Helps Us Green Our Life Choices

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to sustainability PHD candidate Barbara Jane Davy, public nature veneration rituals and dedicating time to appreciating ancestors help people stick to the climate friendly life choices which deep down they really want.

How gratitude for nature can rein in your existential angst about climate change

April 8, 2021 2.24am AEST
Barbara Jane Davy
PhD candidate, environment, resources and sustainability, University of Waterloo

We’re all going to die. This is the repeated warning about climate change in some media: if we don’t change our ways we face an existential threat.

So why haven’t we got a policy solution in place? Reducing emissions is in our best interest, but despite widespread popular support for government action, implementing policies and programs continues to be difficult. Social science research shows that the more we hear about climate change, the less inclined we are to take action.

However, participating in rituals that inspire gratitude for nature can reduce the desire to over-consume — and thus reduce the greenhouse gas emissions that fuel climate change. My research indicates that unconscious motivations and ritual practices may be more effective in shifting our behaviour than rational argumentsin the fight against climate change.

When talking about environmental concerns, avoiding the use of economic language such as costs and drawing attention to gratitude can help keep environmental values top of mind instead of triggering the psychological effects that stimulate consumerism. 

Expressing appreciation for what we have been given and publicly sharing our gratitude inspires a sense of contentment that makes people want to give in turn. Practices of praising ancestors (ancestor veneration) are surprisingly pro-environmental because they prompt people to want to pass on what they have been given rather than consume more themselves.

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Some of the most fanatical climate activists I have encountered were raised as Christians, but somehow lost their faith. They cling to the increasingly ritualised climate quasi-religion, in a futile attempt to fill the God shaped hole in their lives.

Update (EW): The picture at the top of the post is from the 1973 version of The Wicker Man. Below is one of my favourite scenes from the 1973 Wicker Man, in which Willow (Britt Eckland) torments the buttoned up police officer Neil Howie (played by Edward Woodward). Trigger warning involves nudity.

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April 8, 2021 2:05 pm

This lady has to be called “Napoléon”ne, coming from “Waterloo” (University) – lost the fight 😀
Stupidity can’t be stopped…..

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Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 8, 2021 3:32 pm

Isn’t it Waterlxx?

Timo, not that one
April 8, 2021 2:18 pm

I could see going to the event pictured, but I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t notice anything they are blathering about.

Reply to  Timo, not that one
April 8, 2021 2:29 pm

It would be better if they’d get on with the game of strip poker and then roast some meat over that fire. And send the lady in her nightgown out to get some beer and wine.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 8, 2021 3:01 pm

What movie ?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 8, 2021 4:13 pm

I viewed the remake, didn’t know of the original. The trailer looks interesting.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 8, 2021 8:07 pm

Nic Cage punching out a woman in a bear suit?

And you must have liked The Bees?



Not the bees.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 8, 2021 3:32 pm

There must be a Vincent Price one without a fire?

April 8, 2021 2:33 pm

Back in the day when we, as a species, venerated “nature”, we didn’t understand it and tried to explain a short, painful life as down to ‘the Gods’ and hence, sacrificed, chickens/goats/virgins to various deities.

Now, after we’ve cracked accessing high density energy sources, we’ve dramatically increased our survival rates/expectancies/fun and we are at the bleeding edge of living on our Earth and exploring other worlds.

This lot want us back in yurts and dead at 40. Perhaps they could show us the way.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 9, 2021 5:26 pm

“…serve..” the people.”?

Try “… service …” the people – if you’ve lived in cattle/dairy country.

Abolition Man
Reply to  AleaJactaEst
April 8, 2021 3:01 pm

In Commifornia the schools are beginning to teach the kiddies how to pray to the Aztec god of human sacrifice; perhaps they aren’t planning on waiting until we reach 40!
I’ve never thought of human sacrifice by fire and beating heart removal as a “public nature veneration ritual,” but perhaps my edumacation was lacking something that Ms. B.J. Davy found especially fulfilling!

Reply to  Abolition Man
April 8, 2021 3:40 pm

It’s fully explained in Mel’s film.
You just need a Mayan phrase book.

Reply to  Abolition Man
April 8, 2021 7:59 pm

Planned population schemes are indeed forward-looking and take on a progressive air when compliance is ostensibly voluntary. The mortal gods and goddesses are pleased. Secular incentives for the “good” people.

Reply to  n.n
April 9, 2021 5:08 am

well Prince phillip just died…
so we find out if he can return as covid0.2 to knock the rest of us off…

Reply to  Abolition Man
April 9, 2021 8:52 am

I’ve read that after they murdered their sacrificial victims they cooked and ate the bodies. Primitive life was a horror.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  AleaJactaEst
April 8, 2021 3:35 pm

It is interesting that the ‘yurt’ is building of choice for those railing against such things as patriarchy and misogyny. Wasn’t the yurt also the building of choice for Genghis Khan?

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  AleaJactaEst
April 8, 2021 11:42 pm

It’s the old paganism in new clothes, with a thin coating of sciency rhetoric to disguise the magical thoughts and the underlying brutality. As a religion, not that attractive to me.

Reply to  AleaJactaEst
April 9, 2021 12:13 am


I thought these people were against cultural appropriation?

David Lavimoniere
April 8, 2021 2:35 pm

Can anyone tell me what the optimum temperature is for the Earth? Can anyone tell me what the optimum CO2 concentration in the atmosphere is?

Thanks for indulging.

Abolition Man
Reply to  David Lavimoniere
April 8, 2021 3:24 pm

That’s SO easy! Optimum temp is about what we have today, maybe a few degrees warmer; optimum CO2 is 800-1,000ppm so all Life can flourish in great abundance! That wouldn’t get us back to the Eocene Thermal Maximum, but it would be close to the Middle Miocene Climate Optimum!
We’re never going to see the halcyon days of the Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous; when many modern creatures were evolving, temperate zones extended almost to the poles and the tropics cut a wide swathe around the globe! It is still befuddling to me that a supposedly intelligent tropical species like H. sapiens would actively seek out Ice Age conditions as some kind of benchmark for survival. I’m going to continue to vote for the S.I. Swimsuit Edition; mukluks and parkas are great for hunting snow bunnies but look far better hanging on the coat rack!

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  David Lavimoniere
April 8, 2021 3:45 pm

There is no optimum temperature for a planet. It could be frozen or have a molten surface and still be a planet. There is no optimum distance from a sun for a planet as any planet will be where ever it happens to be.
There also doesn’t seem to be an optimum temperature for humans as we have adapted to living in all the various climates on this earth, from humid jungles, hot arid deserts, temperate forests, tundra and ice. We also ‘cheat’ by living and travelling inside containers with temperate climate (without rain) anywhere on and off this planet including under the ocean. But I guess you are being rhetorical and I can’ help myself.

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Reply to  David Lavimoniere
April 9, 2021 12:15 am

Optimum temperature is whatever the watermelons decide they can get away with in their quest to control the sheeple

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  David Lavimoniere
April 13, 2021 9:43 pm

The optimum earth temperature is whatever it is at this instant, because we are locked into ‘nowism’. (So no more species are allowed to go extinct, but the uncountable ‘gone ones’ are just fine.)

And the optimum CO2 percentage would be at plant starvation levels. That keeps crop production down as far as possible to encourage mass starvation, which would achieve optimum subsistence human population levels – barely enough to support the elites in the lifestyle to which they are entitled.

Bruce Cobb
April 8, 2021 2:49 pm

It really is a cult – the Climate Cult. Prime candidates are people who are relatively well off, and thus have a lot of Climate Guilt they need assuaged. They don’t really want to make any big changes in their lifestyle, though. Cutting back on their lattes, from every day to every other would be “huge”. The virtue signaling and hypocrisy is weapons-grade.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 8, 2021 4:06 pm

Extinction Rebellion vandalized banks the other day. Could be a win-win.

Reply to  Scissor
April 9, 2021 1:42 am

Jeez! If any more proof was needed that XR are simply off their trolleys.

I am just reading “My Story” by Lorraine Allanson. She stood up against the anti-fracking mob in Yorkshire. Its a self-published book – very good, recommended. If you ever for one moment thought Greenpeace, FoE (and now XR) were the good guys saving the environment she dispels that myth. They are nasty, organised criminal gangs threatening and destroying anyone that dares to disagree with them.

My Story – Ancestral Secrets (

I would go so far as to say the eco-loons have most of the characteristics of the brown shirts in the 1930s. They are becoming a very, very dangerous extremist mob and politicians and those in government have sucking been up to them for far too long.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Scissor
April 9, 2021 6:38 am

Why were these clowns not arrested for vandalizing the building? Who is going to pay for cleaning up that oily mess? I don’t get why these people are allowed to get away with their antics.

April 8, 2021 2:53 pm

“We’re all going to die” True-ish

Lies are often in what you don’t say.

Didn’t most of our ancestors in antiquity die between the ages of … 30-35 ?

About half the lifespan of modern humans in the first world. People’s who ancestors created societies that “earned” the longer lifetimes for themselves, and their progeny with hard work, ingenuity, and cultural maturity?

Reply to  sendergreen
April 8, 2021 4:19 pm

There were a lot of diseases and conditions that took many infants and children. It could be a rough life. Childbirth was quite dangerous and even simple injuries like broken bones often led to death.

But a lot of people lived long lives, for instance Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson lived well into their 80’s.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Scissor
April 8, 2021 8:31 pm

You asked, “Didn’t most of our ancestors in antiquity die between the ages of … 30-35 ?”

No! The average life expectancy at birth was about “one generation,” but that was because so many women died in childbirth, men died in interminable wars, and children died from all the diseases they had not yet acquired an immunity to. Those who made it past the dangerous years of childhood and their early twenties, often lived long lives. But, only the lucky and toughest became elderly.

Harrison Brown wrote a book called The Future of Mankind, which contained a graph that suggested that any woman in the first-century AD North Africa who made it to what today is retirement age, could expect to live longer than her modern cohort.

Gregory F Lane
April 8, 2021 2:54 pm

Wow. My first glimpse at “Climate Porn”

April 8, 2021 2:56 pm

Not buying it, lot of my kids ancestors (on my wife side, my lot is perfectly ok) may have been colonial usurpatators or even, god forbid slave traders.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 8, 2021 3:42 pm

Oh, you must be descended from the Romans who once ruled Britania.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 8, 2021 4:28 pm

My English ancestors came from the Fens. There’s a tale they could measure 12 inches before the time of rulers.

Bryan A
Reply to  Scissor
April 8, 2021 9:00 pm

The ancestors of Sasquatch?

Reply to  Bryan A
April 10, 2021 8:56 am

Something like that.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Scissor
April 8, 2021 10:14 pm

Are you familiar the Vaughn Williams work, “In the Fen Country?” A truly great 20th Century composer!

Reply to  Abolition Man
April 10, 2021 8:56 am

Just now. Thank you.

Reply to  Scissor
April 9, 2021 12:07 pm

Gimme six!
On both hands?

Just asking . . .

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 8, 2021 3:45 pm

From Liverpool? Or, rather, the Wirral?

Reply to  Vuk
April 9, 2021 12:37 am

I’ve traced my family back to the 15th Century.

Some of them were highly likely to be involved in the slave trade, although prior to the African slave trade. Some of the documents I’ve found clearly label people as slaves although this could have been a different name for servants.

Slavery is without doubt wrong and immoral and should be condemned, especially modern slavery, but we also have to recognise many of the people who were slaves were sold into slavery by their own people.

April 8, 2021 2:56 pm

I’m not exactly clear why it’s necessary to get nekkid to remember Granny and Grampa. I find it easier to look at old photographs.

However, I would like to audit that class. Their field trips look interesting.

Reply to  H.R.
April 8, 2021 3:48 pm

Thems is not actually nekkid.
If you zoom in to 300% it should be apparent.

Reply to  Photios
April 8, 2021 4:29 pm

I zoomed in 1000% and you can really tell.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Scissor
April 9, 2021 1:14 am

I only subscribe, to read the articles.

Reply to  Photios
April 8, 2021 10:51 pm

Just don’t let Joe “sniffer” Biden near that lot.!!!!

April 8, 2021 2:58 pm

The author:

Barbara Jane Davyarbara Jane Davy researches how religion and unconscious or nonrational factors influence human relations with the environment. She holds a PhD in religion from Concordia University, and is currently a PhD candidate in environment, resources and sustainability at the University of Waterloo. Her current research focuses on ritual, environmental values, and the development of conscience. She is the author of Introduction to Pagan Studies and editor of the three volume collection Paganism: Critical Concepts in Religious Studies.
Her teaching experience and interests are in the areas of religion and ecology, ecology and mental health, sustainability thought, and Big History. She has taught at Concordia University, Carleton University, and the University of Waterloo.

All said – trash

Curious George
Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 8, 2021 3:18 pm

“Expressing appreciation for what we have been given and publicly sharing our gratitude inspires a sense of contentment that makes people want to give in turn.”

How exactly does she express appreciation for the Industrial Revolution, which created almost all of what we have been given?

Pat Frank
Reply to  Curious George
April 8, 2021 3:46 pm

Or for the Enlightenment that has given us all of our humane values?

Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 8, 2021 3:28 pm

More better than faculty parking =

Reply to  gringojay
April 8, 2021 8:18 pm

That’s Green with a capital ‘G’. That said, go green, emit. Release the hydrocarbons, and don’t sacrifice the babies. Extinction Repudiation.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 8, 2021 8:35 pm

interests are in … ecology and mental health,

As well they should be!

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 9, 2021 2:07 am

I wonder who pays her to produce this sort of hogwash or why the public allows their tax to be squandered this way?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
April 9, 2021 8:55 am

Taxpayers “allow” such insanity because most are too busy trying to make ends meet to pay close attention to such things. That is why we elect representatives to take care of legislative activities. We are obviously doing a poor job of selecting our legislative representatives. How else would the likes of AOC get elected?

Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 9, 2021 5:49 am

This all started when equality of opportunity was replaced by equality of outcome.

Richard Page
Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 10, 2021 5:10 am

Community activity, especially ritualistic ones, are a form of brainwashing and collective responsibility. You want to eliminate people being able to think for themselves – this is how you do it.

Frank from NoVA
April 8, 2021 3:08 pm

AGW, the official post-Christian faith of Misanthropic Marxist Malthusians.

Stephen Skinner
April 8, 2021 3:30 pm

I was informed recently that we are returning to paganism. I see they were correct.

Richard Page
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
April 10, 2021 5:26 am

Hardly. This is new-age hippy dippy, bunny hugging, vegetarian fantasy of paganism. Any pagan ancestors would be horrified at this travesty and deeply insulted. Ancestor veneration it most certainly ain’t.

M Courtney
April 8, 2021 3:31 pm

“Reducing emissions is in our best interest, but despite widespread popular support for government action, implementing policies and programs continues to be difficult. Social science research shows that the more we hear about climate change, the less inclined we are to take action.”

That’s because the more people learn about climate change the more people realise that the proposed remediation is worse than the threat.

Reply to  M Courtney
April 8, 2021 4:32 pm

Or that the “threat” is most likely contrived.

Reply to  M Courtney
April 8, 2021 5:15 pm


When talking about environmental concerns, avoiding the use of economic language such as costs … can help keep environmental values top of mind … “

Of course … avoid discussions on cost-benefit to keep environment values on top.

Bruce of Newcastle
April 8, 2021 4:14 pm

Anyone wanting to do serious anti-global warming rituals might like to buy their very own druid temple:

Amazing Australian Stonehenge up for sale for $2.35 million (7 Apr)
One owner, low mileage. Comes with a nice three bedroom house and 87 Ha of land (about 215 acres). And a gift shop in case you want to sell accoutrements like druid sickles and Stonehenge snowglobes.

Reply to  Bruce of Newcastle
April 9, 2021 2:51 pm

Strewth, Mate! This one’s finished!

April 8, 2021 5:11 pm

I await to see the liturgical form that Global Warming adopts.

April 8, 2021 5:32 pm

I’m an Ancestor that needs Venerating by 13 Luscious Lovelies, (I have a desire to over-consume) where can I get a ticket ??

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Robert of Texas
April 8, 2021 6:32 pm

Who can possibly be against naked girls sitting around a campfire? Hell, to be 16 again.

Hey wait a minute? Where’s the beer? Who forgot to bring the cooler over from the CO2-belching cars sitting 20 yards away (which we used to drive to this campfire that is emitting CO2).

And who is controlling that annoying Drone flying about snapping pictures? Someone take the controller away and give that person a beer.

April 8, 2021 6:55 pm

I would agree with practicing ancestor veneration if it involves throwing “virgins” into an active volcano to save the planet. PhD candidate Barbara first of course.

Patrick MJD
April 8, 2021 7:15 pm

Sounds like she’s been watching too many “5 go mad in Dorset” sketches.

April 8, 2021 7:21 pm

I see that the quality of PhD candidates/thesis from UofW have gone down since I got mine from that University.

April 8, 2021 7:21 pm

As an aside, the full body shots are a model and not Britt Ekland and Britt’s voice was dubbed in this film because of her Swedish accent. Coincidentally, I watched it online last week and was astonished at the nudity. I saw it on its release and the scene EW has posted was expunged.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 8, 2021 8:46 pm

Until fairly recently, Americans were fairly prudish about nudity. Therefore, it has become the custom to substitute gratuitous firearms violence for nudity, and then the Hollywood actors, who have become rich shooting the guns, attempt redemption by virtue signalling their contempt for firearms.

Pat from kerbob
April 8, 2021 7:23 pm

Why do Canadians always seem to be leading whatever parade of stupid is occurring?

I’m just so embarrassed

Craig from Oz
April 8, 2021 8:26 pm

Well isn’t that all Deeply Culturally Offensive to someone.

This PhD Elitist does realise that mentioning dead people to Australian Aborigines is deeply upsetting. Best this woman cancels herself before the Woke find out about this.

Also, I know it is Eric’s comment, not her’s, but ‘… the climate (friendly lifestyle they) deep down all really want’?


Openly and in public they want a climate friendly lifestyle where they can walk barefoot in the grass and pat the small furry animals while they harvest their sustainable Dark Emu roots and berries.

Secretly they want hot and cold running water, electricity to the door, WiFi, floors that aren’t made of dirt, a warm dry bed, bug spray, refrigeration and to be able to travel without walking everywhere.

If people REALLY wanted to connect more with a carbon free lifestyle all they would have to do is refuse to pay their power bill a few times.

Since we are failing to see people willingly take this path in any significant (or even measurable) numbers, it is safe to conclude that NO ONE wants a Carbon Free Lifestyle unless someone else is first going to create it for them.

Craig from Oz
April 8, 2021 8:31 pm

Wicker Man – if I remember my movie lore correctly, poor Edward had the misfortune in the end of that movie of having some of the animals also ‘on set’ with him get a bit nervous in the bladder department.

Also, according to the legend, they changed the script somewhat late in the day and Edward didn’t have time to fully learn the new lines. So they painted the new lines on massive boards and positioned them carefully out of the long shots. These are claimed to be the biggest que cards in history.

April 8, 2021 9:45 pm

They cling to the increasingly ritualised climate quasi-religion, in a futile attempt to fill the God shaped hole in their lives.

Give this man a cigar!

Walter Sobchak
April 8, 2021 10:39 pm

The Chinese venerate ancestors. They also build gigawatts worth of new coal plants.

Joel O'Bryan
April 8, 2021 10:39 pm

Reminds me of “Mummers Dance” by Loreena McKinnet.

Eugene S. Conlin
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
April 9, 2021 5:00 am
Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
April 9, 2021 8:47 am

Q: What would you call an overweight Irish stepdancer?
A: “Lard of the dance”.

Peta of Newark
April 8, 2021 11:30 pm

Start <Devil’s Avocado> (just for a change haha)

There is quite a sizeable diamond here in what most commentators see as a Mountain of Rocks

And the very fact that time was found and effort was made in the Comments Section shows it off beautifully.
(The Human Animal cannot lie)

Thus and for those who are so rich and intelligent that they’ve stopped making babies yet many comments demonstrate a different truth, lets edit the headline:

1) “Venerating Ancestors” isn’t this something to do with learning ‘History‘ = why we see so many little graphics of the LIA, RWP & MWP?
2) Public Ritual Nature Appreciation Helps Us Green Our Life Choices

  • Is not the Comments Section here a ‘Public Ritual’
  • Are the comments ‘appreciated‘ in the same way as Root Canal Dentistry?
  • Do commentators believe (note the word ‘believe’) that saying something might would could possibly help us/them/somebody?
  • How much talk about ‘life‘. Is it possible to have a life without being tied to the slave driver that is contemporary ‘existence’

IOW: Do you ‘work to live’ or live to work’

What would happen if the electricity went off for 4 or 5 hours per day. Every day.
Oh” everyone round here would scream “Doom Gloom Disaster.The World Would End”

Oh yeah. Which ‘world’ are you talking about.
Yet when warmist use the same words they are relentlessly trashed
Do you know which world they are talking about?

Has anyone actually thought about what sort of ‘Extinction’ the folks at ER are rebelling about? Is it ‘people’ or ‘planet’
(Do beware Projection and Magical Thinking, assuming you have the guts)

Admittedly ‘people’ are inextricably linked to ‘planet’, maybe even the members of ER ain’t completely clear about what they’re trying to save.

But they know the answer.
They do demonstrations = public ritual = socialising = good for life.
Not so much being Smart Alec computer keyboard junkies

On my way home just yesterday afternoon from my routine INR test, I was following a bus
This was on the back of it
Somebody is starting to work it out….

BTW: Isn’t the play on ‘Whicker’ neat?
Whicker = Wicca = Witch = Wise One
Usually female – as folks answering to the name ‘Barbara Jane’ often are.
How might the sexist commentary have changed/progressed (or not) if ‘Willow‘ was recognised as A Witch?

Maybe ‘lads’ (not many girls saying much here are there) a trap’s been set….

<End Devils Avocado>

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Peta of Newark
Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 9, 2021 12:00 am

PS If anyone here has, or has is an acquaintance that has, Root Canal Dentistry.

Get Rid Now

While not obvious to anyone, not least the recipient/user/wearer/victim, but those things go rotten inside your mouth.
If they are ever opened up, they Stink To High Heaven

But while remaining in-situ, constantly flood your bloodstream with bacteria that should not be there.
Thus you can ‘Say hello’ to, in no particular order..

  • co-morbidities
  • (what seem like) auto-immune problems
  • cardio vascular disease
  • heart attack

Is any sort of picture starting to build in folks’ minds yet………….

Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 9, 2021 8:58 am

Seems you forgot to take your tablets.

Reply to  Fran
April 9, 2021 3:05 pm
Ed Zuiderwijk
April 8, 2021 11:38 pm

Sun worship and human sacrifice are next. Welcome to the dark ages masquerading as progress.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
April 10, 2021 4:02 pm

From what I’ve heard coming from California, not too unlikely on the second part. But no sun worship – can’t have anyone thinking the SUN has anything to do with anything…

very old white guy
April 9, 2021 3:54 am

Are they going to start sacrificing virgins?

Eugene S. Conlin
Reply to  very old white guy
April 9, 2021 5:57 am

Vegans I think 😉

Richard Page
Reply to  very old white guy
April 10, 2021 5:16 am

Hardly, that’d be most of them for a start.

Joao Martins
April 9, 2021 4:20 am

As I always said and have been saying: “sustainability” belongs in the Department of Occult Sciences.

April 9, 2021 5:06 am

if people had to go work planting etc then theyd appreciate the energy needed and reduce food etc maybe knowing your stored food is X and has to last for Xtime helps a lot
prancing around communing with nature n hugging the odd tree wont solve or sort much

April 9, 2021 6:11 am

I’m sure my ancestors were perfectly capable of recognizing blithering idiots.

Reply to  PaulH
April 9, 2021 12:16 pm

Unfortunately , that ability seems to be lost in the past somewhere.

Richard Page
Reply to  fred250
April 10, 2021 5:20 am

Nope – some of us still retain that ability. It’s definitely getting rarer though.

April 9, 2021 3:19 pm

Think it be it. Simple as in: Widespread public support for government action.

April 10, 2021 3:47 pm

I love how it starts with “We’re all going to die.”

Pretty well sums up the mindset.

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