Reposted from the NoTricksZone
By P Gosselin on 24. March 2021
By Kirye
and Pierre
The February 2021 data for Iceland and Greenland are available from the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA), which means the latest meteorological DJF winter mean temperature can be computed.
Icelandic winters have cooled since 2001
We plotted the JMA data for three stations (the ones with sufficient data) in Iceland. Result: no warming over the past 18 winters!
Data: JMA.
As you’ll notice, some winter data for Iceland are missing, but there’s enough to show us that winters there have been cooling, and not warming.
Earlier this year we plotted the annual data for these three Icelandic stations, and found 2 have cooled and the third was stable.
Data source: JMA.
Obviously there has not been any warming at this North Atlantic island since the start of the century. The alarmists are screaming about nothing.
Greenland stations have cooled off
Next we go to Greenland, What follows are plots of JMA ANNUAL mean data for 6 stations on Greenland. A couple of the stations have data gaps, but they still can give us a pretty good idea as to what’s going on.
Data source: JMA.
In Greenland as well we find no real warming going on. It’s all been pretty stable since 2001.
And what about winters in Greenland? The six stations are plotted as follows:
Data source: JMA.
Once again the JMA data for Greenland is somewhat fragmented, but they certainly do a better job than Michael Mann’s tree rings. Altogether, there’s been nothing unusual happening up in Greenland during the winter this century.
2021 Arctic melt refuses to start
Finally, this winter’s Arctic sea ice was still continuing its climb as of March 21st and reached it
Hat-tip: Schneefan.
Hmmm… its the Greenland summer temps we need to worry about… and the Siberian ones.
Why worry, I don’t live in Greenland as I don’t live in Siberia 😀
So NOT the Siberian WINTERS, hey griff -fool. !
You are LYING again, griff..
We do not need to worry about Greenland Temperatures AT ALL.
They are similar or cooler now than in the 1940.
And FAR COOLER than for most of the last 10,000 years.
The Russians are not worried, they’re building more icebreakers to cope with increased worming.
Icebreakers? For worming? What are they feeding those worms on in Russia?
Typo; you know what I mean, but just in case don’t use icebreakers on your cat or dog
Here is a graph of the cooling degree-days by month for the past 254months in Krasnoyarsk right smack dab in the middle of Siberia.
A slow but definite cooling trend is going on there over the past two decades.
Tell me again what we have to worry about in Siberia?
Forgot the graph. Here it is.
Okay griff you are correct, it is the summer temps which will melt ice, agreed? So how do you explain the lack of rising temps in the Arctic summer months over a wide range of time but decreasing ice? Simple, it is the temperature of the water underneath that is causing the ice loss, not the temperature of the air. Now how did that water get so warm in the last 40 years? You think it is increasing levels of co2 but the timeline corresponds almost exactly to a warm AMO. Once it flips (Probably in the next 5-7 years) the water will cool and the ice will return.
I think you are just chasing someone’s tail. But we can still place our faith and trust in NASA:
Wintertime Arctic sea ice growth slows long-term decline: NASA
But at the same time that sea ice is vanishing quicker than it has ever been observed in the satellite record, it is also thickening at a faster rate during winter.
It seems counterintuitive: how does a weakening ice cover manage to grow at a faster rate during the winter than it did when the Arctic was colder and the ice was thicker and stronger?
This increase in growth rate might last for decades, a new study accepted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters found.
Petty’s projections found that, by the middle of the century, the strong increases in atmospheric and oceanic temperatures will outweigh the mechanism that allows ice to regrow faster, and the Arctic sea ice cover will decline further.
“This negative feedback mechanism increasing ice growth is unlikely to be sufficient in preventing an ice-free Arctic this century,” Petty and his colleagues concluded.
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2831/wintertime-arctic-sea-ice-growth-slows-long-term-decline-nasa/
So, out goes Al Gore’s claim of an ice-free Arctic by the Summer of 2013. And that is replaced by another opposed “positive vs negative feedback mechanism”, which models say will trend negative by the “middle of the century” with a resultant ice-free Arctic occurring between 2050 and 2099.
So, the next time an alarmist goes on and on about the Arctic becoming ice-free in the near future, you can provide them with the new NASA dates.
And serendipitously, no embarrassing retraction will ever occur, as these well funded authors will be long gone before 2099 comes around. (lol)
”Hmmm… its the Greenland summer temps we need to worry about… and the Siberian ones.”
Worry worry worry. I must be hard for you.
Griff, as usual you present no evidence to support your assertion.
Someone please ‘splain to me, in simple terms, please, why these control freaks are so afraid of change???? They can’t even control their own physiological functions, so what makes them think they can control anything this planet (or any other) does?
Just tryin’ to understand. They need some real serious help with their problem. The more they fuss about it, the less inclined I am to believe anything they produce as evidence that any of these temperature/weather/atmospheric gas changes are any kind of threat. Such sad, closed lives…. no imagination….
They’re used to instant gratification
As a species we’re not overly fond of change – some deal with it better than others. Why climastrologists are all in the pathological fear of change group may be as a form of radical exposure therapy more than anything.
“Finally, this winter’s Arctic sea ice was still continuing its climb as of March 21st and reached it”
This was the last sentence, it appears to be a fragment. Maybe the last line got covered up by the graphic? It would make me laugh if the final sea ice extent increased over 2011, seeing as how it’s supposed to all have melted by now. Some have predicted that sea ice would increase starting in the early to mid 2020’s
It would be interesting to know how well these temperature stations are located. The “stable” ones might be close to population then the ones showing a decline.
Clearly the authorities in Iceland have not been doing their temperature adjustments properly as this runs counter to settled science.
The only two stations in Greenland that seem to be warming are Danmarkshavn and Scorsbysund. But if the annual average temperature in Danmarkshavn warms from -10.9 C to -10.6 C, that still won’t melt much ice at 0 C. The Greenland ice cap will remain in place for the foreseeable future.
As for Iceland, the stations at Keflavik and Reykjavik are fortunate to have slightly positive (deg C) average temperatures in December through February at that latitude, probably from the Gulf Stream. Although if the annual average is about 5.5 C, their summers probably aren’t very warm (11 C or so?).
Cooling is evidence of global warming. Ask any scientist, 97% agree. In fact 97% of all scientists agree on everything that politicians say. If they didn’t they would speak up and they don’t.
The poles are supposed to be warming at twice the rate of the rest of the planet (Cowtan and Way said 8 times faster). So how could there be cooling over the past two decades? Apparently, we’re supposed to trust the models and ignore actual observations.
IT’S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh wait ……..