Tim Flannery speaking at the Peoples Climate March in Melbourne, September 2014. By Peter Campbell - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, link

End of Rain? Guardian Blames NSW Flooding on Climate Change

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

15 years after former Aussie Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery claimed rainfall would not fill our dams, the Guardian asks whether ongoing severe New South Wales flooding is due to climate change.

Is NSW flooding a year after bushfires yet more evidence of climate change?

Experts say it’s unusual to see so many places with such high rainfall across such a wide area. But identifying the cause is complicated

Life-threatening floods have washed away homes and businesses with a deluge of rain inundating hundreds of kilometres of the New South Walescoast.

Falling on already soaked soils, the rains sparked dozens of flood warnings, with residents in parts of Sydney’s north and west also fearing for their homes and their lives.

So what about climate change?

Whenever Australia experiences extreme weather events, the inevitable question arises: was this caused by climate change?

Some climate scientists will argue all weather events are influenced by human activity because we’ve rapidly changed the composition of the atmosphere.

Burning fossil fuels and deforestation has increased the amount of climate-warming CO2 in the atmosphere by about 50% since the start of the industrial revolution.

And while the rainfall totals experienced over recent days are not yet confirmed as record-breaking, this does not mean that climate heating has had no effect at all.

Professor Steve Sherwood, of the Climate Change Research Centre at the University of New South Wales, says that basic physics shows a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture – about 7% for each degree of warming.

“So we know that something like 5-10% of the rain we are getting now [in the current downpours] is from global warming and the rest would have happened anyway.

It’s not a game changer, but it is making things worse and that gets worse still as emissions keep going up.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/22/is-nsw-flooding-a-year-after-bushfires-yet-more-evidence-of-climate-change

Strangely the Guardian overlooked explaining the tie in to former climate commissioner Tim Flannery’s climate predictions. Flannery is still a regular in Guardian editorials. From the original ABC Tim Flannery interview transcript;

SALLY SARA: What will it mean for Australian farmers if the predictions of climate change are correct and little is done to stop it? What will that mean for a farmer?

PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We’re already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we’re getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that’s translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That’s because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that’s a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we’re going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/local/archives/landline/content/2006/s1844398.htm

I don’t recall many objections from the scientific community when Flannery made his absurd predictions. But despite this embarrassment, Tim Flannery, who now heads the non-governmental Climate Council, can still draw an impressive audience of mostly younger people with his apocalyptic rhetoric.

Below is one of my favourite climate videos – In Search of The Coming Ice Age. I remember watching it as a kid on Australian TV. All the adults were worrying and talking about plunging global temperatures the day after the documentary was aired. Everyone believed the documentary, because the presenter was actor Leonard Nimoy, who played Dr. Spock in the original Star Trek series. The ice age documentary featured an impressive lineup of scientists, including Chester Langway, James Hayes, Gifford Miller (who described how the descent into the next ice age started 3000 years ago), and Stephen Schneider, who speculated about using nuclear energy to melt the ice caps, to halt the big freeze.

Climate scientist Stephen Schneider later backflipped and started promoting global warming alarmism.

Settled science anyone? JoNova points out similar severe flooding occurred in New South Wales in 1857. Clearly the 1857 floods were natural, while the current floods are due to our sinful carbon emissions.

h/t William – as if the flooding wasn’t enough, NSW farmers report a plague of mice (link to a spectacular video) is affecting large areas of NSW. Perhaps they shouldn’t have made such an effort to eradicate feral cats.

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March 22, 2021 6:04 pm

Did you notice that global warming is now climate heating?

Reply to  Dennis
March 22, 2021 6:12 pm

Heating the ”climate” is like heating a story.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  Dennis
March 23, 2021 2:18 am

I call it “The Global Hots”…

Reply to  Dennis
March 23, 2021 6:10 am

Why aren’t they having spasms over Iceland’s newest (and very active) baby volcano?

It’s streaming live online by ruv dot is, and is growing nicely, very gassy, slowly increasing lava output, doing what volcanoes do: world building.

Reply to  Dennis
March 23, 2021 6:25 am

Yeah, Diarrhea, The sh…s, Tijuana trots, Montezuma’s revenge are all terms for the same thing and they all stink

Reply to  Dennis
March 24, 2021 2:38 pm

It can’t be “heating” as there no additional heat being applied. The Guardian would deny that there has been any change in the one available heat source. So, what is the source of the extra “heating”?

I wonder who is the Guardian’s go-to guy for science? Is it George Monbiot?

I wonder who decided to use this “Global Heating” usage? Was it George Monbiot?

Monbiot has a degree in Zoology. But I doubt if his knowledge of thermodynamics is grounded thoroughly enough to do anything more than parrot uncritically what others have written.

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March 22, 2021 6:04 pm

Floods in Australia, NSW, 1950s …

Reply to  Dennis
March 22, 2021 6:59 pm

Brisbane too.
I still remember childhood experiences of my family stacking up the furniture in the hope of keeping the best pieces above the level of the water that surged through our house.

Reply to  Dennis
March 22, 2021 8:41 pm

From Hawkesbury Gazette:

This month its 150 years since the Hawkesburys biggest flood claimed 20 lives and had such a catastrophic effect on our district. Its still remembered and referenced.
The flood waters which reached almost 20m at Windsor drowned 12 members of the Eather family: two women and 10 of their children.
Raging waters struck the families farmhouses at Cornwallis on June 21.

So much for “unprecedented” event.

1867 great flooding.png
Reply to  Dennis
March 22, 2021 11:49 pm

And here is a bit about the 1956 Murray river floods. (I remember seeing pictures in the Adelaide newspapers.)


Reply to  Dennis
March 22, 2021 11:52 pm

And twenty years before that.

And …

Reply to  Dennis
March 23, 2021 1:00 am

and this time its even bigger…. I note the Windsor bridge, built to be flood proof after the floods of 20 years ago, is under water

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 7:19 am

And caused by CARBON DIOXIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 11:16 am

“and this time its even bigger….”

LIAR, it is NOT bigger..

There have been bigger floods in that past, just not the one 20 years ago.

John in Oz
Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 8:25 pm

There is no connection to an engineer’s (or politician’s) description of a bridge (‘flood proof’) and its failure to remain above a flood level.

The straws you are grasping are getting shorter and shorter.

Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 8:29 pm

are you for real?

Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 9:58 pm

It is not certainly bigger than one in 1867. See picture that shows Windsor as an island. This time for Windsor to be an island water would have to rise additional 3 meters.

1967 flood - Windsor.png
Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 10:59 pm

Even the locals have said that that ‘flood-proof’ bridge should have been higher. AU$101 million tax-payer dollars down the drain (pun intended).

Reply to  Dennis
March 23, 2021 3:35 pm

“I love her far horizons, I love her jewelled seas, her beauty and her terror, the Wide Brown Land for me.” Dorothea MacKellar, Australian poet, 1908, “My Country.” Nothing has changed in Australia, bushfires one year, floods the next in our part of the Earth.

Reply to  mareeS
March 23, 2021 6:29 pm

Said Hanrahan.

March 22, 2021 6:11 pm

”Guardian Blames NSW Flooding on Climate Change”
They say they’re the worst floods for 60 years.
They say it’s the worst flood for 100 years.

Guardian claimed de-bunked in 30 seconds…..

March 22, 2021 6:16 pm

“Burning fossil fuels and deforestation has increased the amount of climate-warming CO2 in the atmosphere by about 50% since the start of the industrial revolution.”
No! Human activity has added less than 30 PPM or about 25% of the increase since 1850. The rest is from natural sources. See https://edberry.com/blog/climate/climate-physics/preprint3/

Reply to  DMA
March 22, 2021 10:44 pm


So their whole sentence was a load of “blah-blah…

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  fred250
March 23, 2021 1:50 am

Not quite fred. It has an effect on the effective infra-red opacity of the atmosphere, but much less than the sillies claim. Of the 1.0 degree C warming at the very most 0.3C can be attributed to CO2. The rest is nature, or an act of God if you want.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
March 23, 2021 3:27 am

Mean free path of CO2 absorbance is some 10m, 100m with supposed wings

The opacity is 100% and small amounts extra won’t change that.

Any slight warming that might, by baseless conjecture be caused by CO2, is countered immediately but over-riding and controlling mass air movements.

March 22, 2021 6:18 pm

‘They’ are natural variability deniers.

March 22, 2021 6:21 pm

basic physics shows a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture

Except that this January UAH Australia was 31st warmest out of 43 years..

and.. February was 25th warmest out of 43 year

…. both below the 43 year average…

So that little anti-science blah gets swept out with the other rubbish.

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Reply to  fred250
March 22, 2021 8:56 pm

Excellent point.
WRT regional rainfall patterns, alarmists must pick their hypothesis for each location or region.
Then use actual data to back it up.
Most governments including NSW used broad AR4 models to predict change in rainfall.
After 14 years I am yet see any successful validation of these predictions at local level.

Reply to  Waza
March 22, 2021 9:35 pm



That is all that needs to be said

They are really NOTHING better than glorified computer games.

Reply to  fred250
March 22, 2021 9:47 pm

Except that this January UAH Australia was 31st warmest out of 43 years..”

Yeah but it’s the ”vibe” of the thing.

On the outer Barcoo
Reply to  Mike
March 23, 2021 6:53 am

I had no idea that Australia is only 43 years old! Streuth!

Reply to  On the outer Barcoo
March 23, 2021 11:19 am

The only reliable unadulterated temperature series is only 43 years old.

BoM’s mal-adjusted series are farcical.

Peter K
Reply to  fred250
March 22, 2021 10:20 pm

According to BOM monthly averages for most centres, in Australia, have been consistently around (+-1C (normal) for the past 4 months

Reply to  Peter K
March 22, 2021 10:51 pm

BoM’s urban smeared temperatures. homogenised, in-filled, and generally tortured into subservience…

from sites of which at least 40% are totally unsuitable for “climate” data.

Is that what you mean?

I wouldn’t trust BoM temperatures any more than I would trust any other AGW cult member..

I live in Australia, and I can tell you that…

Many places have been well BELOW average this month.

Reply to  fred250
March 23, 2021 12:32 am


You are 100% right!. Its been a cool summer in general, certainly here in Queensland – yet all I hear is crickets when I search the web for further discussion. Am I wrong?

Reply to  Gordo
March 23, 2021 3:52 am

inland qld round the coalfields has had severe ongoing heat day n night 35c avg day and more over that and nights 25c is almost cool…
have a friend lives there, so i take notice

Reply to  fred250
March 23, 2021 1:50 am

Isn’t it the worst in 43 years, because non-digital records have been wiped from the books, for being unreliable. That is what KNMI did.

March 22, 2021 6:22 pm

I missed the bus to town the other day because I forgot my mask. There is no doubt in my mind that climate change was quite clearly to blame.

Robert of Texas
March 22, 2021 6:23 pm

Well, they are almost certainly right that the next ice age is coming… It’s just a matter of how many decades, or centuries, or millennia will it take?

When you are spitballing science, what’s the big deal with a little imprecise wiggle room in the prediction?

Clarky of Oz
March 22, 2021 6:25 pm

I wonder if governments have listened to Mr Flannery and his ilk and reduced flood mitigation measures, relaxed building regulations, etc based on his failed predictions.

Reply to  Clarky of Oz
March 22, 2021 10:54 pm

Well, Texas sure did.

Reply to  Clarky of Oz
March 23, 2021 3:54 am

sadly no
regs are tighter n worse cos floods rising seas( f all in fact) until just now
insurers are making money hand over fist with insane costs and refusals to insure
not sorry theyll have to pay some back about now

Howard Dewhirst
March 22, 2021 6:45 pm

Since 1893 floods there have been 8 years with more than 2.5m of rain and 27 years with more than 2m as measured at Tweed Heads on the NSW- QLD border, with 1906 the wettest year at 3.3m, ending the Federation Drought; other stations along the coast give similar readings. Cairns Airport has had 19 years since 1943 with 2.5 m or more. There is nothing unusual going on here.

Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 22, 2021 7:02 pm

Next thing you’ll be telling us that Oz is “a land of droughts and flooding rains” Howard.

Reply to  Mr.
March 22, 2021 8:01 pm

Wait until the next Tsunami reaches the East Coast of Australia, as they do every now and then, I think the last time was in the 1960s and severe erosion of Sydney Harbour shores was the result.

What will that be blamed on? global over-heating?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Mr.
March 23, 2021 5:49 am

“We’ll all be rooned…”

Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 22, 2021 7:31 pm

Howard Dewhirst: There is nothing unusual going on here.
Unless you are 6 or 7 years of age. Then it would be outside the realm of your experience or at least your memory and seem highly unusual.

Which leads me to wonder about the memory of the average jurinalist (Swedish pronunciation). I am starting to believe that they can’t recall what they had for breakfast, let alone a few years of first-hand accounts of modern history, likely passed down by their parents and grandparents and… promptly filed away with that forgotten memory of breakfast.

They have the narrative of the day and as for yesterday… “Wha’ happened?!?” Erased. Poof.

I couldn’t live like that.
P.S. In the U.S., one of the great floods was 1913. I still remember stories of that from my grandparents. Then there was the flood of 1939, and I recall my father’s stories about that. And then the flood of 1958, and I have my own stories about that that I told my kid.

Just who are these people – our supposed betters – that, if no one told them, they can’t bother to look it up? (string of expletives deleted)

Reply to  H.R.
March 24, 2021 4:53 pm

We have a history problem in Australia: 50% of the Australian population was born overseas or is a first generation. This means there are no family stories of droughts, fires and floods for this cohort.
When the only history you get from school or the media is laced with global warming and abuse of the planet, it’s no wonder that every “extreme” event is new and terrifying and affirmation that we are on the road to annihilation.

Julian Flood
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 23, 2021 6:32 am

In April was the jackal born,
The rains fell in September.
“Now such a fearful flood as this” said he,
“I really can’t remember.”


March 22, 2021 7:15 pm

I would think in the not too distant future, someone is going to use AI (like AlphaZero/AlphaGo) to try and figure all of this out and maybe even to develop a theory of climate… and in all likelihood, CO2 will not even be a factor. There is no way this kind of flip-flop non-sense will be sustained, only human beings with an agenda to push can countenance it. (sigh)

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Anon
March 23, 2021 3:33 pm

Well I guess artificial intelligence is better than no intelligence. The simple programs I wrote in college would put Mikey to shame

Serge Wright
March 22, 2021 7:21 pm

The reality is that NSW hasn’t had big coastal floods since 1990 and people today don’t appreciate the risks. This year was a La Nina summer and the warmer ocean temperatures lead to this event on the east coast and the result was a good old fashioned rain dump and a flood. As La Nina fades we will go back to drier weather and the alarmists will blame that on AGW. What needs to be acknowledged by the media is that all of the properties flooded were on flood plains, which have existed for many thousands of years before humans.

Tony Taylor
March 22, 2021 7:26 pm

Yeah, but are they “unprecedented”?

Izaak Walton
March 22, 2021 7:28 pm

Did you read the Guardian article before deciding to write this post? Somehow you even quoted the relevant part of it stating that only 5 to 10% of rain could be attributed to climate change yet you still
managed to mislabel the article as saying that the Guardian is blaming the floods on climate change.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 22, 2021 8:22 pm

So why don’t you correct the blog title to read “Guardian suggest 5% of the flooding is due to climate change”? Is it because that would be a non-story?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 22, 2021 9:03 pm

The headline is wrong and deliberately misleading. A more accurate one would be “Guardian refutes claims that climate change caused the flooding”. If you want the media to be honest and trustworthy then you should start with your own blog posts.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 22, 2021 9:38 pm

WRONG izzy-a-liar..

The Gruniad is INTENTIONALLY trying to blame the intensity on “climate change™”

Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 23, 2021 12:52 am

“Guardian refutes claims that climate change caused the flooding”. 

That’s fantastic news! Even The Guardian now accepts AGW is a myth!

Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 23, 2021 11:48 am

The Guardian takes every chance to blame anything on climate change and capitalism. Only comunism will save you.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 22, 2021 11:03 pm

The Guardian article is titled “Is NSW flooding a year after bushfires yet more evidence of climate change?” and the content makes it clear that they are answering the question with “yes”. Isaak Walton is the one who is wilfully misconstruing.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
March 22, 2021 11:43 pm

the one who is wilfully misconstruing.

As always.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 22, 2021 9:36 pm

Gees Izzy, how do you manage such EMPTY comments, EVERY TIME !!

To bed B
Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 22, 2021 11:38 pm

My comment is waiting moderation (For some strange reason) but I point out how silly it is to imply rains are 7% more (or 5%) so the flooding is 5% worse. Roughly, 7% more rain would have increased the flood levels by inches. Half a foot at most, and hardly likely to be close to that much. In a v shaped valley with no change in flow, you are looking at a √ amount of rain. With the extra flow rate, a 4√ but highly dependent on the landscape. So 5% more rain leads to 1-2% higher floods.

Plus, it’s also silly to suggest that there is 7% more rain due to global warming.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 23, 2021 11:50 am

At which percentage point does climate change become responsible?

Bryan A
Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 23, 2021 6:33 pm

so…why didn’t the Guardian say that 95% of the flooding was from “Natural Causes”?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 22, 2021 8:28 pm

you still managed to mislabel the article as saying that the Guardian is blaming the floods on climate change.

Too right Izaak.
The Guardian really holds that floods are caused by old white male supremacists.

Reply to  Mr.
March 22, 2021 9:11 pm

…. which is a bit on the weird side, given that The Guardian (of what?) was run historically by old white male supremacists. Some token sock puppets now, but probably still the same behind the curtain. Like the BBC.

Reply to  Mr.
March 22, 2021 10:58 pm

That would be an Act of God?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 22, 2021 8:49 pm

Great to see you can’t argue that the whole climate change attribution crap,..

… ISN’T a complete FARCE. !

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 22, 2021 9:42 pm

Clearly NONE of the flooding was caused by “climate change” either natural or man made. The Guardian is wrong, whatever the percentage they claim. Vast amounts of historical evidence is available showing the present weather conditions are simply typical extremes for that climate.

The point of the article is that bird cage flooring like The Guardian specialize in misleading and never miss a chance to include “climate change” into any story with extreme weather.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
March 24, 2021 3:46 am

When has The Guardian ever been right about anything?

Patrick MJD
March 22, 2021 7:47 pm

I have lived in Sydney, NSW since 2005 and not seen rain like this, for as long as it has been falling, in NSW. It’s persistent and heavy. My manager is cut off further north due to flooding, fortunately for me, I live on a hill so no flooding so far. I did step out to the shops on Friday and Saturday when there was no rain but got totally drenched within a couple of minutes once the rain returned. Of course, alarmists always trot out Flannery when we have bad weather.

There is talk here about Warragamba dam water mis-management similar to the Brisbane floods a few years back. I guess if you get Govn’t “scientists” telling you there will be no rain to fill the dams let alone fill them so much they spill you set policy to “do nothing”.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
March 22, 2021 7:57 pm

Warragambah Dam was designed and built as the main water supply for Sydney, it was not intended to be for flood mitigation.

However the present NSW Government has planned to raise the dam wall for years but activists as usual have stood in the way. The government even enacted legislation to allow the construction of new dams in National Parks, former state forest lands, to overturn the UN Agenda 21 – Sustainability treaty blocking development. But as usual the activists will stop at nothing to delay or stop projects, Land & Environment Court proceedings for example.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
March 22, 2021 8:55 pm

Warragamba filled so quickly over the past week or so, it wouldn’t have made any difference anyway

They would have look pretty silly if they started releasing when it was say 80%.. then it stopped raining !

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 22, 2021 11:01 pm

I think I mentioned before.

Warragamba Dam was built as a supply dam, it should therefore be kept as full as practicable.

Wyvenhoe was built as a duel purpose dam, conflicting purposes, but plenty of headroom (which got close to full in 2010). They now have a secondary spillway.

Problem with Warragamba is the two gorges downstream that choke the flow and cause back-flooding into what are now built-up areas.

People down-stream from Warragamba can be VERY THANKFUL that they didn’t have to release any of the auxiliary spillway plugs !!

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Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 22, 2021 11:03 pm

Water is an important resource for Australia. I guess there is merit in having strong stream flows but it is a shame for all that water to go directly back whence it came without finding an intermediate use for human needs. Actually much of that falling in the centre of NSW takes about a year to get from the Darling to the mouth and it will serve some good purpose along the way.

With water over Australia rising now, we can expect to see a fall in global ocean levels through 2021.

Any farmer who spent the effort to expand their dams during the last drought will reap the rewards now. Might keep them going through the next drought, which I am now forecasting. This time last year, when Australia was on fire in a few places, I forecast there would be floods to follow. Next will be a drought and then more fires. All those planned burns will be put on hold AGAIN until it is too late.

My Country was required reading when I was in primary school and the observations have not changed. So 60 years later and the water management has hardly improved. Population about double over that time.

Reply to  RickWill
March 23, 2021 4:01 am

any farmer enlarging dams got pilloried as a water thief and fined whenever they could get away with it
our nations as fd over as usa is with greentards epa mismanagement of water etc

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 23, 2021 1:41 pm

Eric, fred250’s comment about Wyvenhoe being built purposefully as a flood mitigation dam is correct.

It was a fast-tracked project by the conservative Coalition government after the disastrous 1974 floods hit Brisbane.

IIRC it’s downstream from the old Somerset Dam on the headwaters of the Brisbane River.

A Labor government in the early 2000s changed the dam’s mission to that of a water storage resource for Brisbane, and in drought-stricken 2010-11 Premier Anna Bligh was reluctant to release any storage even when the forecast for imminent flooding rainfall was issued.
(She must have forgotten that Oz is “a land of drought and flooding rains”)

So it didn’t get to fulfil its primary purpose as a major flood mitigation measure.

I was given a guided tour through the bowels of the Wyvenhoe dam when it was under construction. (I was a financial services provider to the construction company)
I was wearing a business suit and got very damp, to the great amusement of all the guys wearing the hard hats.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
March 23, 2021 12:54 am

And I have been living in Sydney, Newcastle and Port Macquarie since like 1965 and it has rained worse than this many times. 1986 was a memorable year. 5 days straight of heavy rain, Cooks river overflowed in several places, rail line from Sydenham to Campsie had land slips and blocked the line, flood waters pouring out of train stations. Oh what a fun week that was.

Chris Hanley
March 22, 2021 8:12 pm

“… basic physics shows a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture – about 7% for each degree of warming … So we know that something like 5-10% of the rain we are getting now [in the current downpours] is from global warming and the rest would have happened anyway …”(Professor Steve Sherwood).
Does that mean any time it rains 5-10% is due to global warming or does it only apply when an event is newsworthy?
Scrolling through the BoM rainfall time series, although Australia overall has increased rainfall since 1900, there is no apparent trend in annual extremes.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Chris Hanley
March 22, 2021 9:46 pm

Does that mean any time it rains 5-10% is due to global warming or does it only apply when an event is newsworthy?

Naw, it just means that Professor Steve Sherwood is capable of expounding nonsense from his fundamental orifice and has no idea whether he’s punched or bored. Climate is a complete mystery to all of them, apparently.

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Reply to  Rory Forbes
March 22, 2021 11:04 pm

Sherwood exists on intravenous Klimate Kool-aide, and climate trough funds.

Reply to  Chris Hanley
March 22, 2021 10:05 pm

If you look at the flood region… ( http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/#tabs=Tracker&tracker=trend-maps&tQ=map%3Drain%26area%3Dnsw%26season%3D0112%26period%3D1970 )
There is a down ward trend in rainfall (due to climate change they say – oh yes they say that) but now when it does rain 5-10% of the rain is due to climate change as well. That’s what they want you to believe. So….. climate change creates deserts with violet rainstorms.

Reply to  Mike
March 22, 2021 11:38 pm

“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself — that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.”
– George Orwell, 1984

Reply to  MarkH
March 23, 2021 8:46 pm

My God, that is genius. The first time I read that in high school I thought maybe Orwell was crazy. Now I realize that it’s the lefties that have always been insane.

sky king
Reply to  Chris Hanley
March 22, 2021 11:02 pm

If the atmosphere can hold 7% more water as vapor for every 1C warming, wouldn’t we expect to see less liquid water falling from the sky?

Steve Reddish
Reply to  sky king
March 23, 2021 9:07 am

That seems right to me. Rate of water being emitted by a body of water seems to be a matter of the temperature of the water. The temperature of the air above that water determines whether water emitted is retained, or immediately precipitated out. Notice fog forms over a lake in the mornings when the air is too cool to absorb water being emitted by that lake.
Water absorbed into the atmosphere remains in the atmosphere until that particular mass of air is cooled. Rainfall due to orographic cooling is increased when air is cooler to start with.
Reports that Australia has been cooler than normal may be providing the explanation for the increased rain this season, rather than a warmer atmosphere carrying more water.

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March 22, 2021 8:34 pm

Droughts and flooding caused by climate change.
We need to give more money to the politicians so that they can keep the climate from changing.

Reply to  G T
March 22, 2021 9:38 pm

Not yet! Today was nice, but not quite perfect, G T.

I’ll send in my money in a few days when the forecast is for an absolutely perfect day, with a note demanding they “keep it there.”

I expect results not just pollies’ promises.

I don’t know what they will do about January, when it’s well, well, below freezing around here, but that’s their problem.

They say they can fix it. Well, here’s my money. Fix it.

Peter K
Reply to  G T
March 22, 2021 10:40 pm

Your donation should go to the Climate Council, formerly run by Tim Flannery. Your donation will not only pay for overseas junket trips but will also control the climate, of course.

Chris Hanley
March 22, 2021 8:34 pm

When a drought finally breaks does the Guardian credit ‘global heating’⸮ (rhetorical).
Far from celebrating the miserabilists whine that agricultural emissions rise due to herd and crop increase.

March 22, 2021 8:41 pm

The reality is, no one has any idea what the rainfall impacts of a warmer world would be at a particular location.

The IPCC predicted impact on rainfall in NSW is between -13%and +12% by 2030.
This is based on the RANGE of climate models not the normal AVERAGE of climate models.

So one expert climate model think could be -13% and one expert climate model thinks +12% with a whole bunch of other thinking somewhere in between.

I’m amazed that anyone can actually use this BS for policy decisions.

Reply to  Waza
March 22, 2021 8:50 pm

Yep, a scatter gun, and they could still miss the side of a barn !!

If they could even find the barn !

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Reply to  Waza
March 22, 2021 11:56 pm

The average of precipitation less evaporation for the CMIP5 climate models results in no precipitable water after 3 years. The model predict an unphysical negative water vapour if the annual balance is integrated over consecutive years; something that could be reasonably expected for models grounded in fundamental physics. In reality they do not even bother with a mass balance for the key atmospheric ingredient for controlling energy uptake and release – water.

Climate models are accurately described as unphysical claptrap or even more accurately steaming piles of poo that no amount of massaging will make them any more useful than any other pile of poo.

Reply to  RickWill
March 23, 2021 8:43 am

RickWill, That’s not right Rick, even the simplest climate models adjust atmospheric water content using temperature/water vapor correlations based on a fudge factor times Clausius Clapeyron correlation. They aren’t very good at cause and effect with regards to cloud cover, but none would result in zero PW.

Reply to  Waza
March 23, 2021 11:35 am

It’s almost zero impact, on average

old engineer
March 22, 2021 9:15 pm

Well, of course it’s raining in Australia. We have a La Nina after all. Australia always get rain during a La Nina, while we here in South Texas get a decided lack on rain. Maybe not a drought, but close.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 22, 2021 9:53 pm

What is missing from this picture is water infrastructure to handle the variability of Australia’s rainfall.

Can you imagine how prepared Australia would be now, to handle the inevitable extremes, if it had put the same resources into water management that it has wasted on AGW and “climate change”.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Rory Forbes
March 22, 2021 10:01 pm

Yeah, but there is no money in doing things sensibly.

Peter K
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 23, 2021 1:33 am

Just looked at the weather map and the rain is on it’s way to North QLD. I drove from Darwin to Orange this time last year and most of North QLD was awash. Some roads blocked. Grass waste high, in stead of desert, most of the way down.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 23, 2021 1:42 am

IMO the best month plus weather forecasts are from JAMSTEC – the announcements of the sintex f group. ( their website is currently undergoing maintenance).

They only says things like “ a high chance of flooding in eastern Australia in the coming summer”

That’s it. The best models can really do.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 23, 2021 4:05 am

yeah western vic got 4mm or so at best got clouds but no rains
we dont even HAVE town water supply our towns reliant on them finding a new and semi potable bore when ours goes low.
i survive with 2 raintanks of 600gallons ea.
waters a luxury

March 22, 2021 10:04 pm

It certainly true that the warm air can hold more water vapor, but all measurements of water vapor in the air, relative humidity, absolute humidity and total column water vapor show that humidity in the earth’s air has not increased, not even 1 percent. In fact, it has decreased.

Kevin Trenberth has said that such data must be wrong. So perhaps the science isn’t quite settled?

Pr. Mark
March 22, 2021 10:04 pm

This is absolute nonsense Eric, I have to read this junk everyday from you. At least do your research properly or let me do it for you, you slimy coward!

Reply to  Pr. Mark
March 23, 2021 11:26 am

Yet you don’t say where you think its junk or present any evidence

It is YOU that is the cowardly slithering oozing slug.

Have the guts to put forward your case properly with evidence, of crawl back into your slimy troll-hole.

Pr. Mark
Reply to  fred250
March 24, 2021 3:38 am

The fact you have nothing better to do than listen to this guy copy and paste information straight from someone else’s work is beyond me. I’m only commenting on this, because I think it’s funny people take him seriously. I think its time to wrap it up Fred.

Reply to  Pr. Mark
March 24, 2021 3:13 am

Mark, the Guardian is intimating that there is increased frequency between severe weather. Drought, bushfires and floods one after the other.

As you know a meandering jet stream created blocking high pressure which caused the drought, bushfire and floods in quick succession.

Its my melancholy duty to inform you that meandering jet streams in both hemispheres is a global cooling signal.

March 22, 2021 10:15 pm

In BC flooding often follows a severe forest fire season. Forest fires destroy the organic layer that covers many forest soils and it also breaks down the structure of the surface soil, both of which greatly decrease infiltrability of the soil. In some cases, waxy compounds from the burning forest floor exacerbate the hydrophobicity of dry soil (as every gardener knows, dry soil is difficult to wet). Flooding after bad fire years is a normal thing if normal or higher than normal rains occur. I am not sure if last year’s fires in NSW are associated with this year’s floods as I couldn’t find adequate information to make an assessment. This would be the most likely scenario to offer an explanation and once again the MSM demonstrate their complete lack of useful insight.

Ian MacCulloch
March 22, 2021 10:19 pm

Professor Tim Flannery bought a house on the waterfront north of Sydney – when I last checked it was still above sea level. He is the only bloke I know that can manage to state 4 errors on sea level changes in one paragraph or was it one sentence.
Either way, there is not much difference between him and Henry Lawson’s “The Geological Spieler”. Lawson’s character did know when to back off.
At this point, I tend to go for Dr Spencer and Dr Zharkova not to mention writer E Worrall and E Eschenbach who collectively have some wit about them. OK two systems met over Eastern Australia – not high energy cyclones or anything like that – just full-blown rain depressions meeting rarely but they do meet from time to time. Hence a lot of rain.

To bed B
March 22, 2021 10:50 pm

Professor Steve Sherwood, of the Climate Change Research Centre at the University of New South Wales, says that basic physics shows a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture – about 7% for each degree of warming.

Basic physics suggests 7% more rain means, roughly, 7% more cloud cover or 6-7 W/m2 less insolation, (100 ppm extra CO2 caused about 0.9W/m2 more downwelling radiation)

7% more rain means an extra 6 W/m2 outgoing radiation.

Slightly less basic physics is how much higher flood waters are for 7% increase in rain. For a simple v shaped valley where water flow remains constant, a 7% increase in rain should be a 3.5% increase in height but more likely <2% as flow increases. So these 30ft floods would be less than half a foot higher because of 7% more rain, due to 1 degree of global warming, despite 7% more rain worldwide should drop the global temperatures by 3°C (roughly).

That is how stupid it is to blame even inches extra height to global warming.

high treason
March 22, 2021 10:57 pm

A year and a half ago, Andy Pitman accidentally admitted that there is no link between drought and climate change. Is there a link between the dam and river system filling rains we have experienced and “climate change”-I suspect not. Andy Pitman admitted that they don’t understand what causes drought and drought breaking rains. They do not even know what lines up to bring drought breaking rains.
One thing we do know is that in Australia, we have experienced droughts and floods from before widespread use of fossil fuels.
I wonder what Professor Pitman has to say about our drought breaking rains?
Personally, I just love it when our dams overflow-makes Tim Flannery look like an idiot. The current massive overflows might flood out his (former from what I gather) property on the tip of Coba Point on the Hawkesbury. Google earth it-then have a laugh.
As for Steve Sherwood, he gave a presentation at a local group a number of years ago. We 3 amateurs demolished him-left him wanting on his knowledge. A lead author of a chapter in an IPCC climate report-the Bible of Climate-whipped by a small bunch of skeptics. He started the presentation of with the 97%…(red rag to a bull.) In the end, he actually turned his back on me, like a dog that has been thoroughly beaten.
Call me mean, but what fun to demolish a lead author of an IPCC report.
On a lighter note, today marks the tenth anniversary of the first carbon tax rally in Canberra. The good old days.

Reply to  high treason
March 22, 2021 11:38 pm

“makes Tim Flannery look like an idiot’

Flim-flam doesn’t need anything to make him look like an idiot

Its his natural state of being….

He’s Australia’s mickey mann..

March 22, 2021 11:31 pm

BLUE SKIES in southern Sydney ! 🙂

Let’s not have a repeat of the last few day , please !!

March 23, 2021 12:16 am

Cool fronts from the south will now generate thunderstorms in Australia.

Reply to  ren
March 23, 2021 4:07 am

so theyve said for the last 3 days for us

a happy little debunker
March 23, 2021 12:30 am

Dorothy McKellar – ‘ I love a sunburnt country’ 1908
Joe O’Brien – ‘Said Harahan’ 1919

Both these poets knew more about Australia’s climate than either Tim Flannery or The Guardian…

March 23, 2021 12:40 am

I think all climate change funding in Australia needs to redirected to pay for all the desal plants that have not been needed, and I think all the greenies should have to pay also.

March 23, 2021 12:59 am

Just as in California, the Australian climate pattern is now severe drought and fire alternating with very extreme rain events.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 7:39 am

And your evidence for this being new is:


Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 11:28 am


Yes, we knew that, idiot !

Reply to  griff
March 23, 2021 4:09 pm

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror –
The wide brown land for me!

An excerpt from ”My Country” by Dorothea Mackellar, 1908

Reply to  griff
March 24, 2021 3:49 am

Severe drought and fire alternating with extreme rain events actually describes Australia’s usual climate perfectly. Thanks, Griff!

Ed Zuiderwijk
March 23, 2021 1:43 am

‘Experts say’ = ‘Someone once blabbered’.

Eric Vieira
March 23, 2021 2:02 am

The absorption bands of CO2 and water are almost completely saturated at present. If CO2 increases, there will be almost no additional warming effect (e.g. Happer and Wijngaarden). Maybe one should show these people that we’re in the top (almost horizontal) part of the sigmoid absorption curve and not in the “linear” domain. This is plain physics, not religion. This is plain weather, not climate change.

March 23, 2021 3:40 am

feral or otherwise the cats cant begin to touch the bloody mice numbers!
I lived through near 12mths of mouseplague and its NOT the tiniest bit funny. hoping the majority of the sods drown, all the thousands of $ of laid baits are now ruined too;-(
for many what the mice didnt ruin the water will, silos with stored grains etc cop it both ways. and with global shortfalls in grains etc usa might be feeling the pinch with high prices for bread etc very soon too.
chinas brought huge amts of soy n corn from you and grains all over the globe, due to their drought then flooding a while back.
Africas has floods ongoing as well as repeat locust plagues.
Russias controlling grain sales to ensure they can feed their own(wisely)
Aussie drought meant last yrs rice was small harvests and this yr might now improve at least. Vietnam was running low last I heard and they supply a lot of places
NK is in deep doodoo as always drought etc

I sincerely hope flimflams riverfrontage is flooding to give him a dose of reality!

Craig from Oz
March 23, 2021 4:22 am

Don’t forget that in the Tim Tim universe the entire city of Perth has already been abandoned.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Craig from Oz
March 23, 2021 10:24 pm

You mean Tim, nice but dim?

March 23, 2021 6:07 am

“…was this caused by climate change?” No, it is seasonal rainfall. You’d think that in an area where rainfall can be scarce, they’d be grateful for a little extra and divert it to ponds and lakes, but NOOOOOOOOO!!!! Failing to understand that it takes time for heavy rain to soak into hard ground doesn’t help. They should learn to create places (called flood basins) to relieve the problem.

And flooding? We didn’t have it this year in the midwestern USA, but there have been a few years where heavy spring rains caused major flooding because the soil was already soaked thoroughly from snow melting and the melt water hadn’t had time to percolate down into the water table.

Oh, yeah: morning paper last week had a panic-attack article about Lake Michigan (Michi Gamu) warming at the lower levels, a newly-minted discovery because no one had thought to do that earlier. Now “the They” (whoever They are) are worried sick that it will have some effect on fish and bring in more of those foreign critters that latch onto container ships and come to the Great Lakes and it will kill off all the fish. Haven’t heard that from any people who actually to go fishing so far, but the “experts” are all wonky about it.

On the outer Barcoo
March 23, 2021 6:44 am

A reading of Dorothea Mackellar is in order.

March 23, 2021 7:05 am

The sheep are assumed to have no memories of what was said the day before. Baa Baa

Walter Sobchak
March 23, 2021 7:41 am

What I don’t understand is why anybody cares what Tim Flannery thinks about “Climate Change”. The guy was a utility infielder for the San Diego Padres baseball team from 1979 to 1989. He was a slap hitter who hit a grand total of 9 home runs in 11 seasons.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
March 23, 2021 7:32 pm

Is that you, Emily Litella? We’re talking about Tim Flannery here, not Tim Flannery.

“Never mind.”

Climate believer
March 23, 2021 8:02 am

“Experts say it’s unusual to see so many places with such high rainfall across such a wide area. But identifying the cause is complicated”

Oh those EXPERTS again using blurred language to obfuscate.

They want you to equate unusual with unnatural, but why oh why would they want to do that?

So is this unusual? I’m not an Expert.

Some BOM weekly rainfall charts:


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Climate believer
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March 23, 2021 8:03 am


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Climate believer
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March 23, 2021 8:03 am


Aus rainfall Jan 2013.gif
March 23, 2021 8:03 am

Leonard Nimoy, good job of narrating the ice age. Note the change in Earth’s orbit was mentioned.

Due to the history of ice ages perhaps man’s contribution in the modern world will help stave off the next ice age. Or not. The point is the earth is now in a period of good weather favorable to humans and we should enjoy that it is is in our life time and not tax it.

In winter always make sure your anti freeze is OK, a candle, matches and shovel in the car, arctic clothes in case you have to walk. Also snow boots for the tires for a better grip.

Joel O'Bryan
March 23, 2021 8:06 am

Blame La Nina.

March 23, 2021 8:10 am

If the Gummint gave me a Tesla this wouldn’t happen.

March 23, 2021 9:25 am

A warmer parcel of air can hold more moisture. Doesn’t mean its going to rain more.

Trying to Play Nice
March 23, 2021 10:25 am

“Professor Steve Sherwood, of the Climate Change Research Centre at the University of New South Wales, says that basic physics shows a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture – about 7% for each degree of warming.”

Did these clowns ever take a logic class or only their environmental studies classes? If the atmosphere can hold more water when it is hotter and they claim it is hotter, then the water would be in the atmosphere and the ground would be drier. Rain is caused by cooling the air.

March 23, 2021 11:06 am

basic physics shows a warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture “

Yeah, the atmosphere is like a giant sponge. Give it a good squeeze and it will rain. FFS, where did Sherwood learn his physics? The processes of evaporation and condensation don’t need an atmosphere to occur, they will happen even in a vacuum.

Jeff in Calgary
March 23, 2021 12:23 pm

Well, they’ll sure be grateful for that 5-10% during the next drought.

March 23, 2021 1:28 pm

Here is the official record of NSW rainfall for the past 120 years.
From regular droughts to flooding rains.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Robber
March 23, 2021 10:23 pm

From the BoM too, how inconvenient!

T Grah
March 23, 2021 2:06 pm

I have read Watts Up With That since day one, now I am done. The emails and webpages a scrambled mess no matter what browser I use. I cant be bothered any more. goodbye Anthony.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  T Grah
March 23, 2021 2:28 pm

watch out for the door T.

Chuck no longer in Houston
Reply to  T Grah
March 25, 2021 2:58 pm

I too, have been a follower of the page for many years. I don’t ever recall seeing a comment from you.

That said, I use Fair AdBlocker by STANDS and I’ve never, ever had an issue with popups or anything else annoying on this page. I still see all the clickbait stuff but it’s relegated to the right of the main window and presents no challenges. This is using Chrome on Win10.

I just don’t get why so many complain about this stuff, when it is easily solved.

Bruce of Newcastle
March 23, 2021 3:28 pm

the Guardian asks whether ongoing severe New South Wales flooding is due to climate change

Quick, throw another virgin into the volcano!

March 23, 2021 11:10 pm

Since Flim-Flam made that claim that our rainfall will never fill our dams again (2006), Warragamba Dam has spilled three times.

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Farquahar Knell
Reply to  BruceC
March 24, 2021 12:17 am

Yes, and several of our state governments built desalination plants on the strength of that wonderful advice from him and his mate Steffen, which have never been used. They cost us many billions to build and hundreds of millions a year to keep in semi-mothballed state. And has he ever uttered a word of apology or regret?

Reply to  Farquahar Knell
March 24, 2021 12:41 am

Ironically, Sydney’s desalination plant has been ‘switched on’ more times during heavy rain, flooding then what it has been during dry periods. It was switched on again today (24/03/2021).


March 24, 2021 12:28 am

Here’s a list of 100 storylines blaming climate change as the problem.This list does not include worsening cases of hemorrhoids…the horror..the horror…

1. The deaths of Aspen trees in the West
2. Incredible shrinking sheep
3. Caribbean coral deaths
4. Eskimos forced to leave their village
5. Disappearing lake in Chile
6. Early heat wave in Vietnam
7. Malaria and water-borne diseases in Africa
8. Invasion of jellyfish in the Mediterranean
9. Break in the Arctic Ice Shelf
10. Monsoons in India
11. Birds laying their eggs early
12. 160,000 deaths a year
13. 315,000 deaths a year
14. 300,000 deaths a year
15. Decline in snowpack in the West
16. Deaths of walruses in Alaska
17. Hunger in Nepal
18. The appearance of oxygen-starved dead zones in the oceans
19. Surge in fatal shark attacks
20. Increasing number of typhoid cases in the Philippines
21. Boy Scout tornado deaths
22. Rise in asthma and hayfever
23. Duller fall foliage in 2007
24. Floods in Jakarta
25. Radical ecological shift in the North Sea
26. Snowfall in Baghdad
27. Western tree deaths
28. Diminishing desert resources
29. Pine beetles
30. Swedish beetles
31. Severe acne
32. Global conflict
33. Crash of Air France 447
34. Black Hawk Down incident
35. Amphibians breeding earlier
36. Flesh-eating disease
37. Global cooling
38. Bird strikes on US Airways 1549
39. Beer tastes different
40. Cougar attacks in Alberta
41. Suicide of farmers in Australia
42. Squirrels reproduce earlier
43. Monkeys moving to Great Rift Valley in Kenya
44. Confusion of migrating birds
45. Bigger tuna fish
46. Water shortages in Las Vegas
47. Worldwide hunger
48. Longer days
49. Earth spinning faster
50. Gender balance of crocodiles
51. Skin cancer deaths in UK
52. Increase in kidney stones in India
53. Penguin chicks frozen by global warming
54. Deaths of Minnesota moose
55. Increased threat of HIV/AIDS in developing countries
56. Increase of wasps in Alaska
57. Killer stingrays off British coasts
58. All societal collapses since the beginning of time
59. Bigger spiders
60. Increase in size of giant squid
61. Increase of orchids in UK
62. Collapse of gingerbread houses in Sweden
63. Cow infertility
64. Conflict in Darfur
65. Bluetongue outbreak in UK cows
66. Worldwide wars
67. Insomnia of children worried about global warming
68. Anxiety problems for people worried about climate change
69. Migration of cockroaches
70. Taller mountains due to melting glaciers
71. Drowning of four polar bears
72. UFO sightings in the UK
73. Hurricane Katrina
74. Greener mountains in Sweden
75. Decreased maple in maple trees
76. Cold wave in India
77. Worse traffic in LA because immigrants moving north
78. Increase in heart attacks and strokes
79. Rise in insurance premiums
80. Invasion of European species of earthworm in UK
81. Cold spells in Australia
82. Increase in crime
83. Boiling oceans
84. Grizzly deaths
85. Dengue fever
86. Lack of monsoons
87. Caterpillars devouring 45 towns in Liberia
88. Acid rain recovery
89. Global wheat shortage; food price hikes
90. Extinction of 13 species in Bangladesh
91. Changes in swan migration patterns in Siberia
92. The early arrival of Turkey’s endangered caretta carettas
93. Radical North Sea shift
94. Heroin addiction
95. Plant species climbing up mountains
96. Deadly fires in Australia
97. Droughts in Australia
98. The demise of California’s agriculture by the end of the century
99. Tsunami in South East Asia
100. Fashion victim: the death of the winter wardrobe

March 24, 2021 4:00 am

How come the Guardian is unaware of the La Nina effect responsible for this rain deluge in Australia?

It’s amazing how, over the last three decades, Mother Nature has proven the so called global warming alarmist experts wrong on every climate alarmist issue.

March 24, 2021 4:22 am

Climate Change causes bad things: if it is bad, then it is Climate Change. How can anyone not understand this? It is so simple. Apparently Climate Change is causing a decrease in IQ too. Repeat after me: If it is bad, it is climate change: if it isn’t bad it is weather. You do not have to think, just repeat the mantra.

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