US Congress Considers a Kangaroo Product Ban

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t a happy little debunker; Ask an Aussie if there is anything rare or endangered about Kangaroos, or road pests as we think of them, and most of us would collapse into helpless laughter. But for reasons which are unclear US Congress is set to consider a bipartisan Kangaroo Product ban.

U.S. Lawmakers Introduce Kangaroo Protection Act to Blunt the World’s ‘Largest Wildlife Slaughter’

Congressmen Salud Carbajal and Brian Fitzpatrick Say ‘No More Killing Kangaroos for Athletic Shoes’

Washington, D.C. —  U.S. Representatives Salud Carbajal, D-Calif., and Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Penn., this week introduced the Kangaroo Protection Act to ban the sale of kangaroo body parts in the United States. The bill aims to curb the massive trade in kangaroo skins used by Nike, adidas, Puma, and other companies for manufacturing soccer shoes (“cleats”). Though sold throughout the world, the U.S. is the second-largest market, behind only the European Union.  Animal Wellness Action, Animal Wellness Foundation, Center for a Humane Economy and SPCA International, the Michelson Center for Public Policy, and others applaud the initiative and call on lawmakers to pass the legislation.

“Nike and other major athletic shoe companies are fueling the world’s largest commercial slaughter of terrestrial wildlife,” said Wayne Pacelle, president of Animal Wellness Action and the Center for a Humane Economy. “It’s time for the company to shed kangaroo skins from its product lines and embrace 21st-century sensibilities about wildlife protection.”

“Commercial shooters kill roughly two million wild kangaroos a year to profit from the trade in their skins, despite the availability of alternative fabrics that are of similar or better quality. While California has banned the sale of kangaroo products, enforcement of this inhumane practice is lacking,” said Rep. Salud Carbajal, D-Calif. “I’m proud to stand against kangaroo trafficking and have introduced the Kangaroo Protection Act to make it illegal to exploit kangaroos in the United States and impose penalties for violations.”

“Kangaroos are victims of the largest commercial slaughter of land-based wildlife in the world. As a member of the bipartisan Congressional Animal Protection Caucus and an outspoken defender of animals, I will continue to be committed to ensuring that our government is doing everything in its power to promote and protect animal welfare,” said Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Penn. “Our bipartisan Kangaroo Protection Act of 2021 will make it illegal to exploit kangaroos in the United States and ensure that penalties are imposed for violations. I am proud to join my colleague Rep. Carbajal in this fight.”

Read more: https://centerforahumaneeconomy.org/2021/02/09/us-lawmakers-introduce-kangaroo-protection-act-to-blunt-worlds-largest-wildlife-slaughter/

Culling was not introduced as a commercial activity. Culling was introduced to alleviate suffering, and prevent the utter destruction of the land during dry spells. The following is a video of what happens when kangaroos are not culled, when they run out of food.

From the farmer who shot the video;

‘Kangaroos are beautiful animals and an icon of this wonderful region,’ the concerned farmer said.

‘But we are genuinely concerned because if their population levels exceed what the land can naturally sustain, then not only do the kangaroos suffer horribly, but this drought stricken land suffers further too- and this beautiful country will struggle to recover when it finally does rain.’

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3360459/Bizarre-video-shows-kangaroos-avalanching-road-farmer-warns-s-genuinely-concerned-overpopulation.html

Without culling, kangaroos breed like crazy in good years. When the rains fail, a frequent occurrence in arid Australia, kangaroos form vast locust like swarms, eating the ground bare, destroying everything in their path, until the food supply is utterly exhausted. Then millions of them starve to death.

A kangaroo product ban will not stop the cull, because selling kangaroo products is not the reason for the cull. All a kangaroo product ban will achieve is the culled kangaroos will not be converted into useful products.

I wish someone in US Congress would explain why waves of overpopulation followed by the horrible lingering death of millions of kangaroos from starvation, and depriving people of their livelihoods, would be a better outcome than a bit of active land management.

Video of a kangaroo population crash which occurred in 2003. Warning, this video contains distressing images of dead and dying kangaroos.

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eyesonu
February 13, 2021 10:18 am

So the U.S.is officially now a “Kangaroo Court”. Who’da thunk that!

In other news: It’s intermission time at the Capital Circus. The don’t have lions and tigers and bears (oh my) but there are a lot of clowns and jackasses. It’s The Greatest Shitshow on Earth today! Grab popcorn and beer before the show continues!

bluecat57
Reply to  eyesonu
February 13, 2021 10:37 am

Kangaroo Impeachment Court

alastair gray
Reply to  eyesonu
February 13, 2021 1:30 pm

How can the Dems have kangaroo courts if they cant bring in kangaroos.
Also Dems seem to be compliit in long term Malthusian [plans to cull humans so why not kangaroos too

n.n
Reply to  alastair gray
February 13, 2021 2:45 pm

Planned Population schemes (e.g. select a child, cannibalize her profitable parts, sequester her carbon pollutants) are forward-looking, progressive under some religious (e.g. “ethical”) philosophies, especially when kneeling before mortal gods and goddesses (i.e. “secular” regimes) for redistributive lucre and sanction of wicked solutions.

That said, save a bird, a bat, whack a wind turbine. Donate to World Walrus Foundation. Clear the environment of the Green Blight.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  n.n
February 14, 2021 12:27 pm

If Beijing had built more wind turbines it would’ve reduced the bat population. So maybe we could’ve avoided the COVID-19 outbreak. So coal kills. 😉

Bill Powers
Reply to  eyesonu
February 13, 2021 1:31 pm

Kabuki theatre. Congressional string puppets and Senatorial Ventriloquist Dummies.

These are some of the dumbest humans on planet earth talking down to the ignorant un-educated post 1990 Public School graduates/University Safe Zone Drones and making a connection. The U.S. Constitution has been turned into Capitol Hill Toilet paper.

n.n
Reply to  Bill Powers
February 13, 2021 2:50 pm

The Constitution is evolving, mutating, progressing to realize a dysfunctional convergence, a recurring, seemingly inevitable, event as dictatorial/democratic regimes pursue the consolidation of capital and control.

Patrick healy
Reply to  Bill Powers
February 14, 2021 2:42 am

Bill,
Would it be safe to ask which of the many Californication genders that person called
Salud Carbojal belongs to ?
With all the most esoteric Christian names it is impossible to tell.
So will they Tie This Kangaroo bill Down Sport?

wilmers 13
Reply to  eyesonu
February 13, 2021 10:26 pm

Australian farmers complain about a recent growth in ‘roo numbers after the last winters rains. ‘They are too many. You can leave them be and a large number will become road kill as well as die of starvation in a season or two. The ‘roos they are allowed to take are NOT threatened species.

At the same time the Koalas are threatened as it is and one habitat in NSW is to be destroyed by a dam. Congress must have mixed up kangaroos and koalas, because the koalas deserve protection.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  wilmers 13
February 14, 2021 4:11 am

koalas have NO natural predators and rebound in a yr or tqo
they breed yearly and for around 8 yrs. do you forget the desexing and planned culls or relocations of thousands of excess koalas on KI a few yrs ago?
the fires may have kiled half
of FIFTY K of them, theyre not going to die out anytime soon

Analitik
Reply to  ozspeaksup
February 14, 2021 2:45 pm

Absolutely correct. Koalas also breed themselves into starvation through overloading the environment. Every couple of years, there are reports of this in different areas across the country

Additionally, they are monumentally stupid. The local propaganda channel (ABC) last night reported on distressed koalas in areas burnt out during last summer’s bush fires – moving some koalas 50 meters (160 feet) to regenerated trees was one of the things being done.

Russ Wood
Reply to  eyesonu
February 14, 2021 7:08 am

I’m reminded of a Thurber cartoon, with a kangaroo in a court witness box. A lawyer is pointing at the animal, with the speech bubble: “Perhaps THIS will refresh your memory!”.

Steve
February 13, 2021 10:18 am

HA! HA! HA! I hit a Roo at 60 kms in my truck. The thing went through the roo bars and ended up putting it’s body through the block! Stopped me dead. There are 30 million of the things FFS! Ha ha ha

Steve
Reply to  Steve
February 13, 2021 10:19 am

But don’t tell congress about the Drop Bears 🙂

Xinnie the Pooh
Reply to  Steve
February 13, 2021 4:27 pm

actually last census had them at 70 million

Mr.
Reply to  Steve
February 13, 2021 5:33 pm

We had 3 events in one year where our vehicles had major repairs after roo strikes.
Insurance company priced us out of next year’s coverage.
Had to carry my 410 around in the boot to finish off maimed roos some other car had hit.
Still, we fared better than our neighbor who got barreled by a huge sambar deer – didn’t even bother calling a tow truck, used an excavator to bury the deer and his truck in the roadside scrub.

Bob in Castlemaine
Reply to  Steve
February 15, 2021 12:27 am

Try 80 to 90 million Steve.
They are a pest of massive proportions.

Tom Halla
February 13, 2021 10:19 am

This is fairly standard “animal rights” legislation, with the note that kangaroos are cute and work in fundraising ads. As Eric Worall notes, the SPCA and its ilk do not really care about the suffering of kangaroos, just virtue signaling.

Ron Long
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 13, 2021 12:48 pm

Right about the virtue signaling, Tom. The only animals the left wants to kill are unborn (or born alive during abortion) human babies. My unwed mother resisted family pressure to have an abortion, and when my twin brother and were born we were adopted by great parents.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Ron Long
February 13, 2021 1:45 pm

There are too many people and they must be culled to reduce their numbers.
Ask any environmentalist.

The world’s most dangerous idea is the notion that too many human beings exist.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 13, 2021 3:59 pm
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ozspeaksup
Reply to  Pat Frank
February 14, 2021 4:14 am

only to those who havent been close to em/tried to hold feed or gardens in a drought etc, or had their car totalled/been killed BY roos on rds

Chris Wazza
Reply to  Pat Frank
February 14, 2021 10:49 pm

Nothing cute about a 6 foot male trying to get to your Vegemite sandwich!

Richard A. O'Keefe
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 14, 2021 12:11 am

Feelings don’t care about your facts.

Doug Huffman
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 14, 2021 3:14 am

Cuddle an opossum. Yeech!

Bryan A
Reply to  shrnfr
February 13, 2021 12:44 pm

Now that’s just plain nuts

ozspeaksup
Reply to  shrnfr
February 14, 2021 4:15 am

Hilton International in Adelaide used to sell a LOT of those to tourists.

Ian Magness
February 13, 2021 10:21 am

“It’s time for the company to shed kangaroo skins from its product lines and embrace 21st-century sensibilities about wildlife protection.”

So, replacement products will be made from…. hydrocarbons! That’s the ticket!

bluecat57
Reply to  Ian Magness
February 13, 2021 10:36 am

And trashing all the potential kangaroo products from naturally dead or road kill?

alastair gray
Reply to  bluecat57
February 13, 2021 1:31 pm

feed dead kangaroos to polar bears Simples

ozspeaksup
Reply to  bluecat57
February 14, 2021 4:17 am

umm roadkills not really salvageable, natural deaders arent found till they stink.
the stupid shoot n drop idea just means wild dogs dingos n foxes n feral cats breed up faster and create their own massive problems

Komerade cube
Reply to  Ian Magness
February 13, 2021 4:09 pm

Made from hydrocarbons by slave labor in China as Loydo and Griff cheer them on.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Ian Magness
February 13, 2021 4:34 pm

“Commercial shooters kill roughly two million wild kangaroos a year to profit from the trade in their skins, despite the availability of alternative fabrics that are of similar or better quality.

Better quality than Kangaroo leather?? I had a pistol holster made in Sydney in the mid 60’s. Used it for several years there. Since moving to Arizona I’ve worn it on a daily basis over the past nine years. It’s holding up very well thank you. A man-made substitute – not going to happen.

February 13, 2021 10:31 am

“I wish someone in US Congress would explain why waves of overpopulation followed by the horrible lingering death of millions of kangaroos from starvation, and depriving people of their livelihoods, would be a better outcome than a bit of active land management.”

First it’s kangaroos, next it’s cows.

We have a progressive socialist Congress now, so expecting them to act rationally is asking a bit too much.

shrnfr
Reply to  co2isnotevil
February 13, 2021 10:34 am

Yes, most folks in the states do not understand how kangaroos die in the wild. Basically, they wear their teeth down enough so that they cannot eat and then die of starvation.

gbaikie
Reply to  co2isnotevil
February 13, 2021 11:24 am

Just tell the US congress, that kangaroos fart

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  co2isnotevil
February 13, 2021 12:13 pm

I suspect that there is a virus circulating that attacks the brain. Its effect can be demonstrated by people voting for Democrat candidates.

Loydo
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 13, 2021 3:48 pm

“U.S. Representatives Salud Carbajal, D-Calif., and Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Penn., this week introduced the Kangaroo Protection Ac …”

Don’t let your confirmation bias get too far ahead of you Clyde.

Derge
Reply to  Loydo
February 13, 2021 5:04 pm

You listed two Democrats…

Michael Batt
Reply to  Loydo
February 13, 2021 7:18 pm

It will not protect kangaroos. It will just mean that there will be no commercial use for the millions of culled ones. They will just be left in the paddocks to rot.

fred250
Reply to  Loydo
February 13, 2021 8:03 pm

All you have is conformational bias, Loy-dumb

Its your modus

CONFORM, COMPLY, like the good little marxist prat that you are.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 14, 2021 4:19 am

test em for leptospirosis
they reckoned that half the UK so called alzheimers sufferers were actually Lepto caused brain damage

Rick C
Reply to  co2isnotevil
February 13, 2021 1:39 pm

Not to worry, our official US congressperson do-goobers clearly know much more about kangaroos than you callous and uncaring Aussies. I have no doubt that they are aware of the starving roo problem and will appropriate many hundreds of millions of US tax-payer dollars earmarked for kangaroo feeding programs. Smart Australian farmers will soon be contacted by professional US government grant proposal writers. I’m sure that there will soon be far greater profits in feeding surplus roos than in mundane activities like raising sheep.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Rick C
February 13, 2021 5:51 pm

Just wait ’til the Congersmen find out that all those sheep eventually die! The lamentation, moaning and shrieking will shatter Nancy Pelosi’s lectern.

george1st:)
Reply to  co2isnotevil
February 13, 2021 8:27 pm

Same for Humans as has happened in China,Russia,India,Asia,Middle East,Sth.America and of course Africa where it will get far worse .
Primitive minded governments produce primitive outcomes .

bluecat57
February 13, 2021 10:34 am

Does that include Kangaroo Impeachments?

Rod Evans
February 13, 2021 10:38 am

“What’s that you say Skippy”—– “The USA has gone completely and collectively mad”
” What,— you think the Kangaroos can stand on their own two feet, and President Biden can ask his Senators to just look at his hairy legs, and stop worrying about ours”
Ok Skipp, I will pass that message on. 🙂

markl
February 13, 2021 10:41 am

More from the party of unintended consequences. There’s no end to their virtue signaling.

Loydo
Reply to  markl
February 13, 2021 3:49 pm

It bipartisan virtue signalling.

Komerade cube
Reply to  Loydo
February 13, 2021 4:15 pm

Fitzpatrick is a rino, and pa has become a liberal shithole nearly as bad as the people’s republic of New Jersey. You are a shill for the CCP, and you toss crap the same way your partner Griff does. You’ve never contributed an intelligent thought to a conversation on WUWT or most likely anywhere else.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Loydo
February 13, 2021 4:15 pm

Yeah, my party demonstrated that it has seven idiots today.

fred250
Reply to  Loydo
February 13, 2021 8:06 pm

Clueless as always , Loy-d’oh

Hilarious that you can’t recognise a RINO when you see one.

No one
February 13, 2021 10:47 am

This wouldn’t happen to have anything to do with a trade dispute between the Aussies and some other country? Or some tech giant or other? Nah. Surely politicians have more integrity than that.

<sarc>

MIke McHenry
February 13, 2021 10:49 am

Being from New Jersey USA I can appreciate the term road pests. We have what I call New Jersey’s giant rodent the deer

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Tom Halla
Reply to  MIke McHenry
February 13, 2021 4:18 pm

Hell, in Texas we have feral pigs too. A friend totaled her car hitting one, and had the nastiest looking air-bag bruises.

February 13, 2021 10:55 am

Here in Australia kangaroos are a protected animal already. It is an offence to harm them in any way other than by license. They are not at all rare or endangered but there you go. I think about 3 million a year are culled each year in New South Wales alone. The product from this goes into petfood mainly but you can buy some for human consumption. The meat is much like venison. I don’t know about the USA but here just about everything is protected. For instance fruit bats which are a plague animal. When I was a child they were everywhere having come from Queensland into the southern states in plague proportions. I vividly remember seeing the sky go black at sunset as they arose from their nesting sites on the north coast of New South Wales. They have colonies of about 300,000. If humans grow crops animal populations will expand greatly and feed on those crops. If we are not allowed to control these populations then we are in a lot of trouble. My expectation is soon blowflies will be protected.

G Loveday
Reply to  Mike O'Ceirin
February 13, 2021 1:15 pm

Mike, fellow Aussie here. Thanks for mentioning that the Kangaroo industry is already highly regulated and very humane. It appears that this action in the USA is more about positioning for the banning of other meat product industries into the future. Cattle and sheep may be in the focus of these zealots in the near future.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Mike O'Ceirin
February 13, 2021 8:04 pm

The only thing rare about Roos is the level of cooking.

Very lean. Don’t over cook it.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Craig from Oz
February 14, 2021 4:25 am

dont UNDERcook it either !!medium at the least and let it sit n rest before eating ill be as soft as rare
remember theyre wild not wormed etc and as ALL game the meat should be cooked through

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Mike O'Ceirin
February 14, 2021 7:48 pm

A quick word to potential US visitors to northern Australia. Crocodiles are protected. Tourists are not. If the sign on the river bank says “Don’t swim here” – don’t.

Alex
February 13, 2021 11:01 am

Clown wars 🤣🤣🤣😱😱

February 13, 2021 11:09 am

I’d much rather see a ban on Climate Alarmists — especially the “angry” ones — but then again, our freedom of speech laws allow them to make fools of themselves … https://newtube.app/user/RAOB/I97sm2D

DonM
February 13, 2021 11:23 am

The rep from California is too far over the edge to deal with.

The rep from Penn … what the hell is wrong with him? Is he in a goofy district, where he needs to pander to stupidity?

If there are 24,000,000 (low 2011 est.) kangaroos in Australia and they live 12 years (high end est) then by rough half ass estimation (something the ‘sustainability nutballs’ would do) there would be 2 million dying every year. Without management the population can spiral out of control (like rabbits); even with culling and management a current estimate is 45,000,000.

In a couple of bad years & no food/water maybe 20,000 could die. Starvation, dehydration, etc..

(mebbe the rep from California needs to recognize this and modify his bill; “If lack of commercial use of Kangaroo meat/skins results in an impending massive die-off at some point in the future, the USA shall apportion $5,000 per potential dying Roo (not to exceed 25 Billion) to mitigate for the unintended consequences of our virtue signalling.)

ozspeaksup
Reply to  DonM
February 14, 2021 4:26 am

id like to drop these two into some nice dry roo habitat in drought and leave em for a week

commieBob
February 13, 2021 11:30 am

I am very leery of googling anything politically charged or anything that might have to do with ‘social justice’ but …

When I google to find out the attitude of Australia’s aboriginals toward the kangaroo cull, the first page is all stories about how the aboriginal elders oppose the kangaroo cull.

Is that really the case?

Canada had a similar problem with the seal hunt. It’s gone. The Canadian version of the problem is that the over population of seals is responsible for the decline in cod fish. Unsurprisingly, the environmentalists will argue against that.

Before Dr. Mann’s fraudulent (as admitted by him due to adverse inference) hockey stick, I would have called myself an environmentalist. Now my default position is to assume anything said by an environmentalist is a lie.

Defund Greenpeace and all their fellow travellers.

Bruce Ranta
Reply to  commieBob
February 13, 2021 2:00 pm

I believe Canada banned kangaroo products years ago. I can’t buy kangaroo hide hunting boots because we Canucks are woke. And stupid.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Bruce Ranta
February 13, 2021 3:05 pm

Now, now. You make Moosehead and Molson.
And LaBatt and Kokanee and Alexander Keith’s and…
just think of what you do get right.

Last edited 2 months ago by Alan Robertson
jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Alan Robertson
February 13, 2021 5:58 pm

That’s right. All of which may explain why Canada has so many liberal voters. Stupid comes in bottles and cans. People shouldn’t drink and vote.

commieBob
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
February 13, 2021 6:38 pm

Not all Liberals are as stupid as Talks with Unicorns (Pete Waterhole Jr.). Jean Chretien ran a very responsible fiscal house. The old joke is that the Liberals run from the left but govern from the right. Sometimes that’s actually true.

By the same token, not all Conservatives are very smart. Instead of Tax and Spend, some of them at all levels of government do Don’t Tax but Spend Anyway. The CCF/NDP often did a better job of balancing the budget.

I realize we don’t get to vote for the PM directly but … I would vote for Erin O’Toole before I would vote for Justin Trudeau. I would seriously think of voting for Christia Freeland before Erin, if only because she’s smarter than him or Trudeau and she knows what a s__t storm the Soviet Union was. Anyone who’s tempted toward socialism really has to understand the history of Marxism in the 20th century.

And then there was Kathleen Wynne. Darn. Now I’ve gone and upset myself.

John Howe
Reply to  Bruce Ranta
February 14, 2021 2:13 am

I have kangaroo hide cycling shoes. Carbon soles, kangaroo skin uppers, really light and comfortable.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Bruce Ranta
February 14, 2021 4:28 am

you could buy online from Aus?
get a mate to send em as a “gift”
sure a few of us here could arrange that for you

Bruce Ranta
Reply to  ozspeaksup
February 14, 2021 7:56 am

Sure, but buying boots without trying them on is a risk. The point is why are they banned here? Like much in this country, it’s nonsensical. And whoever was mentioning beers made here, well, there’s beer and there’s beer. The brands you apparently like….says a lot….

Craig from Oz
Reply to  commieBob
February 13, 2021 8:13 pm

You can find an Elder to say anything about anything.

What people don’t realise is that Roos pre 1788 were a minor species. They are boom and bust drought animals. When there is drought they simply stop breeding. Female roos can place a pregnancy in status if food levels are not good enough.

Then, once the waters run and the grass grows green they can restart the pregnancy and out pops the baby. The mother roo can then be pregnant, have a new born on a nipple and an older joey being semi mobile.

They breed like, well, Roos.

So pre 1788 they boomed and busted, but after European’s arrived they started to regulate water supply by building dams. Hence roos discovered they had a much greater supply of water and the bust cycles became shorter.

Roos owe their numbers to European settlement.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Craig from Oz
February 14, 2021 8:15 pm

The regular water supply largely consists of small on-farm dams, along with sub-artesian bores, ground tanks and tapping into the Great Artesian basin with much of inland northern NSW and southern Qld covered by grids of bore drains.
Feed is certainly a limiting factor on an inter-annual basis, but regular summer water is a major aspect every year.

Paradoxically, some of the more productive farming and grazing areas on the black soil plains of NSW and Qld would have been rather inhospitable to the Aboriginal nations because of the lack of reliable water away from the rivers and creeks.

fred250
February 13, 2021 11:31 am

Next, cow hide..

And everything will need to be made from oil-based synthetics.

zemlik
February 13, 2021 11:45 am

there was newsreel footage likely from Australia in the 50s showed farmers looking at a field the other side of a fence that was literally blanketed with rabbits as far as could see.

Mr.
Reply to  zemlik
February 13, 2021 5:38 pm

Roos look like big rabbits.
(at least that’s what the weekend spotlighter hunters used to claim)

ozspeaksup
Reply to  zemlik
February 14, 2021 4:32 am

thatd be the Rabbit proof fence. its still being maintained as even with calici etc theyre STILL in large numbers
and we have a dog fence too for Dingos
bunnies here breed up bigtime calici is released they drop for a few mths then the young that survived are rebreeding fast

H. D. Hoese
February 13, 2021 11:46 am

More than a few years ago in winter in a rental vehicle I came around a corner on our way to see roo tracks in the snow in the Snowy Mountains and had to avoid a big dead red one. Was told later convention was to pull it off the roadway, but was more than I could handle anyway. Saw more run over wombats though. Somebody is not teaching proper biology these days about reproduction.

Mike Dubrasich
February 13, 2021 11:48 am

How about a ban on shoes made by children, Uyghurs, and other Communist slaves? Are people less valuable than kangaroos?

Next step: import live kangaroos and dump them in rural America as part of “rewilding”. We already have restrictions on housing, farming, ranching, forestry, and other rural activities to “protect” Hungarian grouse, Chinese pheasants, Nepalese chukars, Mexican turkeys, and Canadian wolves. Why not kangaroos, too?

Mark Smith
February 13, 2021 12:00 pm

It should reported as US favours artificial fibres produced by the oil and gas industry. And does nothing to stop hunting US native animals.

Clyde Spencer
February 13, 2021 12:09 pm

There should be no real difficulty finding a suitable synthetic replacement, derived from crude oil, for kangaroo skin — unless the petroleum industry is destroyed by the climate zealots.

Carlo, Monte
February 13, 2021 12:11 pm

Around these parts we have Canada geese which are so adaptable and lazy that they no longer bother to fly south for winter, they just hang out wherever there is access to grass and issue copious amounts of goose kr@p, and of course it is a huge sin to accidentally hit one while they are taking their fat lazy time to walk across streets and roads. Their nickname is “web-footed vermin”.

Bruce Ranta
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
February 13, 2021 2:03 pm

They are lovingly refered to as sky-rats in southern Ontario.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Bruce Ranta
February 13, 2021 4:48 pm

/honk/

OweninGA
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
February 13, 2021 5:10 pm

We have them here in Georgia too. I think we killed off all the predators that caused them to migrate in the first place.

Smart Rock
February 13, 2021 1:02 pm

Hey, I have an idea. Why doesn’t Australia import some serious predators to level the playing field. I have in mind African lions, Bengal tigers. Cheetahs would be excellent, I’m sure they can outrun kangaroos. Nice cuddly leopards. Sleek black jaguars. Face it, those dingos just aren’t up to the job of keeping the kangaroo population stable; snatching human babies is more their thing.

The professional kangaroo hunters could learn to code once their jobs vanish.

I mean, it’s not as if introducing exotic species has ever had unintended consequences, has it? /sarc

PeterW
Reply to  Smart Rock
February 13, 2021 3:46 pm

The natural predator of Roos are humans and medium-sized canines. (Dingos)

We used to have a type of large, smooth-haired dogs, colloquially referee to as “Kangaroo Dogs”. Of course, wild dogs killing kangaroos is ok, but domestic dogs killing them is somehow evil and depraved.

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ozspeaksup
Reply to  PeterW
February 14, 2021 4:36 am

lotta roo dogs still around wolfie/deerhound/dane/ greyhound x
I own 5, but in Vic Im NOT allowed to let the dogs loose
of course if theyre on my land..oopsie

Mikee
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 13, 2021 8:02 pm

Must not forget to mention the cane toad, rabbit, foxes, camels, donkeys and goats – all introduced species which have virtually no natural predators. Foxes tend to focus on rabbits and so do eagles and dingos which sort of makes a minor impact on populations depending on wet seasons and droughts. Australia now has the world’s largest populations of “pure bread” camels and goats. Australian camels are quite sort after in the Middle East and so are goats for their meat. As for rabbits, they are much smarter survivalists than the white coat brigade and their clipboards.

Mikee
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 14, 2021 4:03 am

Crows are spread throughout the world and are frequent visitors to my back yard, no doubt attracted by my neighbours chooks. Also forgot to mention feral pigeons (as opposed to native top notch pigeons), starlings, sparrows and the spread of feral deer which have greatly increased in numbers in south eastern Australia.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Mikee
February 14, 2021 4:39 am

pigeons must be in cities as Ive seen damned few rural since I left SA here i did keep am as outside alarm systems in a nest on my porch
only seen maybe 6 top knots here in SW vic in 14yrs

Bruce Ranta
Reply to  Mikee
February 14, 2021 8:01 am

At least those deer are good to eat, make for a great hunt and often sport racks that make a nice trophy.

Giordano Milton
February 13, 2021 1:26 pm

I think we need to ban cockroach products (even though I love my cockroach belts). The slaughter of innocent cockroaches has reached epidemic proportions. Time to act. The cockroaches should be collected and delivered to the animal’s rights organizations.

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Giordano Milton
February 13, 2021 2:52 pm

That reminds me of a story I heard from a friend who was mineral collecting in northern Australia. Their party entered an abandoned mine tunnel, where they observed a dead snake. Upon their return, the snake carcass had been reduced to bones by the cockroaches.

gringojay
February 13, 2021 2:09 pm

All is as predicted 50 years ago by The Prophet Randy Newman, peace be upon him, in the White rap song “Political Science”. For those who are too young to have heard the preaching here are a few lines to tide you over until might search for a full recording.

No one likes us

Even our old friends put us down

They don’t respect us

Asia’s crowded
And Europe’s too old
Africa’s far too hot
And Canada’s too cold
And South America stole our name
Let’s drop the big one

We’ll save Australia
Don’t want to hurt no kangaroo
We’ll build an all American amusement park there
They’ve got surfing, too

And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it’ll be

Let’s drop the big one now

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February 13, 2021 2:17 pm

There are 45,000,000 Kangaroos in Australia at present. A few years ago there were 30 million. There are only 25 million people. During favourable seasons the kangaroo population explodes rapidly and this leads to overconsumption of feed. To use culling reduces the suffering of these starving kangaroos. Using kangaroo meat for food increases the nutritional quality of people’s diets. It also reduces wastage of resources.
If people do not control the numbers of kangaroos by culling humanely, the animals will die of starvation and have horrible deaths.
The proposed American ban on kangaroo exports is misguided and based on ignorance of the real situation like much other recent legislation in the USA.

John Klug
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
February 13, 2021 3:26 pm

Maybe the 30,000,000 white tailed deer in the US is the reason? Deer populations have exploded over the past 50 years, far more than before the Europeans came and they cause problems for a lot of other wildlife here. Could be a good substitute for kangaroo. Maybe bring the jobs home!

Bruce Ranta
Reply to  John Klug
February 14, 2021 8:06 am

Deer number are high, but still a fraction of what they were when Europeans arrived, according to estimates by the Wildlife Management Institute. Not many deer in big urban or industrial areas, which take up many thousands of square kms, or miles, if you prefer.

February 13, 2021 2:28 pm

Ironic as kangaroos have been touted by the climate activists because they produce much less methane than cattle and sheep.

So you’d think they’d encourage consumption of roos, not ban it.

Independent
Reply to  Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2021 11:51 pm

The people you speak of are not driven by logic or reason, but a desire to flash their shiny feathers to others as if to say “look at how wonderful I am!”

MarkMcd
February 13, 2021 2:29 pm

With all the problems facing the USA, their Congress has time to even consider this idiotic bill? Do you reckon they’ll bother getting anyone with actual knowledge of Australia in to explain the issues?

I mean if California has laws banning use of roo products, surely they KNOW it is stupid?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  MarkMcd
February 13, 2021 2:59 pm

They may not get around to the ‘roo bill for awhile. Now that Trump has been acquitted of the impeachment charges, the Democrats will probably try to paint him as a Confederate sympathizer, if not outright participant in the Civil War, and forbid him from running for any offices. Hey, somebody has to fill the spots on the low end of the Bell Curve! They can’t all be above average, much as they would like to think that they are.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 13, 2021 4:44 pm

Now the plan is to paint him with some ancient constitutional amendment from the end of the Civil War, using only a simple majority vote. They just make stuff as they go along.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  MarkMcd
February 13, 2021 6:04 pm

As Calizuela goes, so goes the nation.

DJCJ
February 13, 2021 2:35 pm

Many more Kangaroos now than in pre-colonisation times (i.e pre 1788). So we have the Chinese killing our wine, seafood and barley export markets, now our great friends in the US want to kill another one of our export markets.

Komerade cube
Reply to  DJCJ
February 13, 2021 4:30 pm

The Us is now run by China.

sky king
February 13, 2021 2:46 pm

If aimed at Nike, then I’m all for it, not that I am in the least worried about kangaroos.

Robber
February 13, 2021 2:58 pm

Send those pollies a couple of kangaroo steaks – in Australia that is legal.

Peta of Newark
February 13, 2021 3:11 pm

Yet another perfectly man-made disaster…
Poor old Australia, wtf did it do to deserve such muppet behaviour.
No matter.
The answer is there already = wire-cutters

Quote:
“” The dingo has been the main natural predator of the kangaroo probably since it was introduced to Australia about 4000 years ago.
Prior to that, the main predator was likely to have been the thylacene, the so-called Tasmanian tiger.
The effect of dingo predation is best seen in those areas outside the 2000 km long dog fence that keeps dingos out of agricultural areas.
There are far fewer kangaroos outside the fence, whereas on the dingo-free side the large kangaroo species (Forest Grey and Plains Red) are so numerous that in certain seasons a ‘marsupial lawn’ can be seen on satellite imagery, where the ground vegetation has been trimmed back to almost suburban neatness.””

Maybe a bit brutal and especially as the Dingoes are a non-native species.
So we’re left with, what became of the tigers?
Both dingo and tiger would control that other non-native scourge of Australia and everywhere: sheep

Sheep and their close cousins goats, Create Deserts.
Just like the roos with their little nib-nib-nibbling teeth

Wherefore art thou ‘RGB of Duke‘ ## – you were not any fan of goats. None. At. All.

## I have got the exact handle wrong but t’was certainly something like that

And why they ever try to grow wheat in Aus is quite unfathomable.

  • Are they completely mad?
  • Do they have too much money, time, seed, machinery & fertiliser to squander?
  • Perfectly grasping & desperate for any and every miniscule crumb they can glean?
  • Overconsumption, any consumption in fact, of Amber Nectar?
  • Utterly paranoid and creeped out by an idea that ‘someone else’ has their eyes on the place, they wanna trash it completely so nobody else can have it?

What gives, everywhere you look it’s a loony bin
And if you demonstrate any aptitude at ‘Non-Loonyness’, you are summarily cancelled
surreal & bizarre in equal measure

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PeterW
Reply to  Peta of Newark
February 13, 2021 3:52 pm

If the nearest thing we have to a natural predator of Roos – apart from humans, that is – are canines, then the most appropriate biological control for Roos would be what was known for over a century as “Kangaroo Dogs”. Large, smooth coated greyhound crosses.

I seriously doubt that Roos hold some kind of religious or philosophical preference for being killed by a particular kind of dogs.

fred250
Reply to  PeterW
February 13, 2021 10:33 pm

Must admit, I’ve tried ‘roo a few times.

Just can’t get exited about the taste, a bit “gamey” or something.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  fred250
February 14, 2021 4:48 am

you can soak it in milk or water for while
roo fillets pan fry like fillet steak but casseroles are also ideal to lessen that heavier flavour bay leaves n herbs etc
roo tail soups as good as oxtail

observa
Reply to  Peta of Newark
February 13, 2021 4:08 pm

We eat the wheat and drink the barley and feed the hay to tasty animals and share it around the world dude. Grapes help wash it down too. You don’t like then stick to your meal worms bugs and bottled water. The copious roos are a spinoff from that drinking from water troughs and muscling in on the action whilst keeping our comprehensive car insurance premiums high and feeding the crows. You have something against crow welfare because we can manage the insurance premiums and all the rest.

PeterW
Reply to  Peta of Newark
February 13, 2021 4:45 pm

Peta is, of course, ridiculous. Calling us “loonies” while demonstrating zero understanding of the variability of the Australian climate soil type and vegetation.

Australia is not all desert. Australia has one of the most advanced dry land cropping industries in the world. The average annual rainfall where I live and farm is 25”. Why would I not grow wheat?

The “Loony Bin” would be a fine place for those who think that I would willingly and without regard, destroy my asset and income by acting unreasonably. But we hear a lot of this from urbanites whose primary contact with animals, farming and nature is from behind sterile glass screens.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Peta of Newark
February 13, 2021 6:08 pm

I miss RGB at Duke. One of the most intelligent of a generally savvy lot.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Peta of Newark
February 14, 2021 4:46 am

we have excellent land for wheat in non drought times thanks.
and Dingos running loose would also kill those koalas wombats and all the other ground dwelling rare species
this time Peta you really shoulda STFU
you know zip re aussie lands or species

Xinnie the Pooh
February 13, 2021 4:27 pm

You’re not a true Australian until you’ve hit a kangaroo driving

Mr.
Reply to  Xinnie the Pooh
February 13, 2021 5:43 pm

And some of those kangaroos are very bad drivers.
A slap on the paw isn’t punishment enough, I say.

fred250
Reply to  Xinnie the Pooh
February 13, 2021 10:38 pm

Wombats don’t do much for a car’s suspension, either !

Trouble with roos, is they jump, which can mean they can come through the windscreen !

Driver of this truck didn’t survive.

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ozspeaksup
Reply to  Eric Worrall
February 14, 2021 4:53 am

interesting thing Ive noted here in Vic
we have a LOT of the blacktailed wallabies
you dont see many of them as roadkill
whynot?
Ive watched them turn their backs to the headlights while sitting on road edges so they dont get lightblinded and theyre smarter n stay on sides until its clear
the red n grey buggers just jump regardless
ive avoided em and then had them rebound into the side of the car when they should have been safely passed(at my risk)

jorgekafkazar
February 13, 2021 6:15 pm

These people (US Cong) are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. One of them (a Dim-o-crat), Rep. Hank Johnson, said he thought stationing more Marines on Guam might make it “become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.”

Mr.
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
February 13, 2021 7:16 pm

Yep, poor old Hank had his own interpretation of that “tipping point” that all his Dembo colleagues were pontificating about.

Greg
February 13, 2021 11:36 pm

If the US insists in interfering in Aussie affairs, the Aussie govt should send them all to USA as “refugees”, then they’d be taken in with open arms, fed and looked after. Problem solved.

Greg
February 13, 2021 11:40 pm

They should be harvested for skins and meat. That would at least mean a quick death rather than dying a lingering death of thirst and starvation.

As usual supposedly “well-meaning” liberal ideas pulled from the air end up causing more harm than doing nothing. But they don’t care about reality of what they are doing, it’s all about virtue signalling, not real world outcomes.

Greg
February 13, 2021 11:42 pm

Great profile photo of a roo’s nutsack, there.
Mature males will often pose against the sky line like that just to impress the females !

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Jan de Jong
February 14, 2021 12:31 am

In all of Western politics strong emotion has been replacing weak reason, a sad spectacle.

MACK
February 14, 2021 1:49 am

Roo bars are mounted on the front of vehicles for protection – it’s a big business. https://www.irvinbullbars.com.au/roobar/watch-out-for-that-kangaroo-why-wa-drivers-need-to-fit-a-roo-bar-to-their-vehicle/

Ed Zuiderwijk
February 14, 2021 1:56 am

Shouldn’t that be: Kangaroo Congress considers US product ban?

ozspeaksup
February 14, 2021 4:07 am

SW Vic theyre thick on the ground here. car damage alone is massive. fencves and crops damage also. state govt is JUST allowing shoot for human and have been “trialling” petfood use for 5yrs and might…approve expanding tallies
there a mob of around 15 that hop around our town at night, gardens get trimmed for free here. they drive my dogs nuts! im planning 6ft deerwire around my 7 acres to keep the mongrels OUT

Mervyn
February 14, 2021 5:47 am

It seems as though ever since Trump Derangement Syndrome took a hold in America, democrat lawmakers have lost their capacity to think, to verify and to apply commonsense and logic.

Mickey Reno
February 14, 2021 5:47 am

The Planet of the Roos was the working title of a movie about a species that rose up and conquered humanity, enslaving the now dumb (as in unspeaking) humans. Until a mysterious space craft that had traveled through some sort of time portal crash landed and the smart humans aboard were befriended by some scientist roos who realized they could talk and took pity on the last survivor. I wonder whatever happened with that project?

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Martin
February 14, 2021 6:02 am

Kangaroo leather has unusual properties in that it is incredibly hard wearing and soft. Hard wearing leathers are usually very hard and rigid, whilst most soft pliable leathers have little resistance to wear

Rich Lambert
February 14, 2021 9:02 am

Years ago the US Congress outlawed the slaughter of horses for meat. Immediately tens of thousands of horses became worthless.

John Kelly
February 14, 2021 9:27 am

Did we need any more proof that politicians in the USA are bloody idiots? It would be interesting to get insurance stats of the cost of cars hitting these bloody things. I did severe damage to one 4WD on the way to work one morning; despite it having a roo bar. Another time I stupidly nearly ran off the road trying to avoid one. They are a major pest. Nike, etc can have as many roo skins as they like.

Jon
February 14, 2021 3:45 pm

Roo burgers are delicious.

Peter Morris
February 14, 2021 6:05 pm

I have found that most environmentalists don’t actually know how the environment works.

TonyG
February 15, 2021 9:32 am

“I wish someone in US Congress would explain why waves of overpopulation followed by the horrible lingering death of millions of kangaroos from starvation, and depriving people of their livelihoods, would be a better outcome than a bit of active land management.”

Because it makes them feel good about themselves for “doing something” – doesn’t matter what the actual result is.

James
February 15, 2021 9:48 am

What will Jack in the Box use for burger meat if we shut down the roo shooters?

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