Merry Christmas to all, did you get coal…or?

And in case you are unfamiliar with the energy density of Uranium, here’s a primer.

Happy Holidays from the gang at WattsUpWithThat!

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December 25, 2020 6:07 am

Thanks for all the hard work you do; We live in interesting times !

Last year “All our troubles seemed so far away, now it looks as if they’re here to stay

Merry Brexmas & a Happy New Covid to you & yours …From the UK

Reply to  saveenergy
December 25, 2020 6:40 am

Ah, so the Chinese curse has come true.

Richard Page
Reply to  bluecat57
December 25, 2020 8:46 am

Not chinese. But please don’t let facts stand in the way of a good comment! Now where did I put that sarc tag…..

Reply to  Richard Page
December 25, 2020 12:09 pm

People complain when I don’t /s, but I believe that if you can’t recognize it then you are smart enough to duel with.
Then again, I hear many podcasters begin their stories with “Not from The Onion” because so many stories today are so insane that it is hard to believe they aren’t parody.
I now start by believing even the wildest story is true and then work backwards.
Then if someone disagrees with me, THEY have to prove the story false.
5 years ago you would have thought half the stories being reported today were some sort of joke.

Ron Long
December 25, 2020 6:08 am

Gummy Bears and Uranium Pellets! And a Merry Christmas to all the gang @ WATTS and let’s have a normal 2021!

Bryan A
Reply to  Ron Long
December 25, 2020 9:32 am

Happy Holidays to All Y’all
No Coal but I was sure hoping for a boatload.

Bob Tisdale(@bobtisdale)
December 25, 2020 6:30 am

MERRY CHRISTMAS back atcha, Anthony, Charles, et al, and to all the visitors who frequent here.


Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 25, 2020 9:11 am

MERRY CHRISTMAS to staff, commenters and readers !

Dave Fair
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 25, 2020 5:22 pm

Ditto, Bob! And a special Merry Christmas to you for all the good work you have done over the years.

December 25, 2020 6:40 am

I got a lump of clean burning coal.

John VC(@jvcstone)
Reply to  bluecat57
December 25, 2020 7:58 am

Got a stocking full of coal once–probably around 9 or 10 years old. I’m assuming it was some good old PA anthracite, but that didn’t quell the hurt and disappointment at the time.

John F Hultquist
Reply to  John VC
December 25, 2020 10:04 am

Peacock coal

Reply to  bluecat57
December 25, 2020 8:37 am

Hard to determine what I got in my Christmas stocking, because despite what the greenies believe, the electric grid doesn’t differentiate between coal- or nuke-generated electricity. But reliable, affordable electricity is the gift here today and tomorrow, while the sun isn’t shining much in this area this morning nor is it windy at all.

Merry Christmas to all WUWT readers and friends, and an optimistic Happy New Year — we’re not defeated yet!

mark from the midwest
December 25, 2020 6:41 am

My wife and I quit buying stuff for each other years ago, we’re at the point where it’s too much work. But we are observing other traditions… go gambling at a Tribal Casino, Chinese takeout, single malt around the neighbors fire-pit, and snowblower tag, (my Honda can throw snow 70 feet, so no one is safe).

Happy Holidays to all, and Thanks to Anthony for another year of WUWT

michael hart
December 25, 2020 6:53 am

Greetings from the land of “Children won’t know what snow looks like anymore!”

“UK white Christmas declared after overnight snow”

Greg in NZ
Reply to  michael hart
December 25, 2020 1:37 pm

And here in the antipodes too, except it’s summer – yeah right! Fresh dusting of overnight snow for New Zealand’s Southern Alps.

Sites with updated snowcam pics:

Quick, before greenies figure it out & they go yelling CO2-drenched absurdities and curses at the snow-covered hills. Happy Boxing Day – boom boom!

Phillip Bratby
December 25, 2020 7:28 am

Happy Christmas. Thanks for all the hard work Anthony and crew.

December 25, 2020 8:17 am

That advert reminds me of the scientific optimism of the 1950s when it was anticipated that the nuclear industry would produce cheap energy worldwide and lead to prosperity for all the poor of the world.
Then the socialist fearmongers got to work and the long decline began.
With advancing technology we could have had clean nuclear power long ago and the wealth from that would have led to lower population growth rates and much better control of real pollution.
Authoritarian emotionally driven do gooders always make things worse.

Richard Page
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
December 25, 2020 8:51 am

Heh – same thinking that believed we’d have nuclear powered cars and mini nukes would replace tnt in demolition work. Goes to show that the whole human race can’t do predictions very well! Lol.

Reply to  Richard Page
December 25, 2020 10:08 am

Both those ideas were always pretty fanciful. Nuclear is best for large scale energy production but mini reactors are certainly an option.

Bemused Bill
Reply to  Richard Page
December 25, 2020 2:08 pm

They predicted there would be nuclear powered washing machines etc. and Ford went so far as a concept car, the Ford Nucleon, I want one….

Joel O'Bryan(@joelobryan)
Reply to  Bemused Bill
December 26, 2020 6:47 pm

You can buy a “coal-powered Tesla.” Just recharge it somewhere near any of the many coal-powered generation plants helping to meet US electrical demand.

Peter W
Reply to  Stephen Wilde
December 25, 2020 3:02 pm

Organization to
Imperfections in

Motto: There is nothing quite as dangerous as an idealist.

December 25, 2020 8:20 am

Merry Christmas!!!! And yes, I got my coal, last September, 3 tons. That will last us a couple years, then we have to “renew” our energy. Don’t ya just love renewables!!!!!!!!!!!

Clyde Spencer
December 25, 2020 8:26 am

Thank you for having created this website, and thanks to Charles and all the others behind the scenes for keeping it going.
May you all have a Happy New Year!

Randy Stubbings
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 25, 2020 12:27 pm

I’d like to add my thanks to Anthony and Charles, to the guest authors, and to all the commenters who take the time to provide thoughtful, science -based comments. I’ve learned a lot. If only rational discourse on matters of climate, medicine, and other subjects in which there can be legitimate disagreement was the norm rather than the exception.

Nick Graves
Reply to  Randy Stubbings
December 25, 2020 12:34 pm


R. S.
December 25, 2020 8:27 am

Merry Christmas!! Thanks for all you do to inform the world and expose the fraudulent science out there…

December 25, 2020 8:50 am

Old ad says uranium produces 3 million times more energy than coal (not sure that’s exactly right, but the gist is correct), but the ad didn’t mention that coal produces thousands of times more energy than pinwheels or sun-squares…….

Reply to  beng135
December 25, 2020 8:00 pm

When that ad was created, nobody imagined in their wildest nightmares that anybody would try to revert humanity 200 years backwards.

Richard Page
December 25, 2020 8:58 am

Happy Christmas to you all from Lincoln UK. Didn’t get coal but I have been working my way through a couple of bottles of wine. Hic. The single malt is for later this evening after the dinner has settled. I am warm, well fed and entertained all thanks to fossil fuel energy – we should give thanks for it and hope that every corner of the world may have the same blessings one day. That is where world peace and prosperity will happen, not from some bureaucratic groupthink.

December 25, 2020 9:00 am

Despite my mother’s warnings, I routinely ran with scissors and played with sharp sticks that could have put my eye out this past year….Santa must be Woke because when I came down this morning, I found, instead of a lump of coal in my stocking, a PV cell.

Merry Christmas to all, and Happy Festivus to the rest of us.

Reply to  guidoLaMoto
December 25, 2020 9:46 am

With all those accidents waiting to happen, good thing you didn’t get a Red Ryder BB gun — could’ve put your eye out…

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Alasdair Fairbairn
Reply to  guidoLaMoto
December 25, 2020 11:34 am

80 years ago aged 5 I got a penknife for Christmas. The result was a nasty cut on my little finger when I tried to close it.
I still have the cut today AND the wisdom to go with it.

Thanks Charles and all. You keep me sane. (I think)

F. Ross
December 25, 2020 9:04 am

Thank you Anthony and crew for all you do all year.
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
-from a daily site lurker, occasional commenter.

December 25, 2020 9:08 am

Happy Christmas Anthony and all who help out and contribute and to all (well nearly all) who comment. Those of you who fear you may become targets under a Biden administration I sincerely hope that doesn’t come to pass and that the new year turns out brighter than we expect. Now make merry while we still can. Cheers

December 25, 2020 9:11 am

Coal is a nonrewable resource hence it doesn’t calculate on my lists. This year I made a concerted effort to stay local, made purchases from friends who had small businesses while making sure my gifts were sustainable. We all have to do our part.

Reply to  taoofrob
December 25, 2020 8:01 pm

What you’re doing… it’s best done in private, with a dirty magazine.

December 25, 2020 9:54 am

A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all here this season – even Griff, Nick, and Steven…

(With luck, this will work. If not, a reminder that, even in the most bitter and desperate conflicts, the other side is composed of human beings, children of God just as much as those we agree with.)

Sigh. Nothing worked over on the test page. Follow the link to see “1914 – Christmas 2014 Sainsbury’s Ad.”

Steve Case
December 25, 2020 10:11 am

There isn’t any family Christmas dinner at out house this year, it seems that there are a lot of family members and I assume a lot of people in general who believe what the carnival barking media anchors are telling them. So, figuratively speaking, nuthin’ but coal under our tree this year, and probably from here on out. It appears that 2016 was the last year the American people decided who would be president in the United States.

That isn’t what was meant? California is on course to decommission their last nuclear power station. The Biden administration says it will outlaw fracking. Now that the Democrats know they can get away with stuffing the ballot box in broad day light – Oh I alluded to that above uh sorry.

Without anything better to do this Christmas morning, an analysis of GISTEMP files since 2003 shows that their Land Ocean Temperature Index (LOTI) has an interesting bump in corrective action activity starting in 2012:

Number of changes per month:
Time Series . . Changes
2002-2011 . . .   81
2012-2020 . . . 574
2002-2020 . . . 327

That’s an increase of seven times in the number of monthly changes since 2012. This goes on month after month as a steady drone. Just for giggles I could email the Rudy Toot Toot gang in the attic above Tom’s Restaurant and ask them what changed 8 years ago.

Oh! I found out that although it looks like you can paste [Ctrl V] an image into the “Post Comment” box here at WUWT, the code for the image is what shows up. My apologies to the mods for inadvertently spamming this place by mistake.

If you read the above meandering this far, Merry Christmas!

Mike Bryant
December 25, 2020 10:30 am

Merry Christmas to all… I love me my Wattsupwiththat!

Richard (the cynical one)
December 25, 2020 11:29 am

Thank you for your fair minded, generous hearted sanity, and for the clear way you live the courage of your convictions. We may yet find a way through the various insanities with the light you shine.

It doesn't add up...
December 25, 2020 11:32 am

Here in the UK, National Grid trailed the fact that they planned to avoid coal use ahead of Christmas by suggesting it could be our first coal free Christmas, taking advantage of the fact that it is usually the lowest demand day of the year because industry and commerce is largely shut down

For once they were right too, in that the BritNed interconnector has been out since 8th December, and likely won’t be back until at least 1st February. That means no coal fired power from the Maasvlatkte power station at the other end of the line

However, they seem to have greatly underestimated demand

Outturn peaked at 37,442MW, probably because is was a cooler day. Economising on the coal was maybe an expensive choice: the peak half hour system price was almost £80/MWh, and they had to fire up some OCGT generation in short order and call on pumped storage.

France provided 2GW of mainly nuclear most of the day, adding to the 6.2GW produced here, while CCGT performed its usual heroic role of adjusting with the main changes in demand over the day, adjusting from 5GW overnight to a peak of 15.7GW. We had a little more solar than normal – peaking around 2.5GW in the winter sunshine out of 13GW of capacity, while wind provided 7-9GW, picking up in the afternoon.

paul courtney
December 25, 2020 11:41 am

Her presentation re: one uranium pellet equals so much coal etc. was hard to understand. Can she put it in manhattans?

Mike McMillan
December 25, 2020 11:45 am

Merry Christmas!

And as Tiny Tim said, “God bless us, every one!” even the warmistas.

December 25, 2020 2:12 pm

Merry Christmas to Anthony, Charles, Bob and all the merry gentlemen who run WUWT.
Merry Christmas also to all the readers and commenters who keep WUWT moving on.

Eamon Butler
December 25, 2020 5:24 pm

Merry Christmas to all the wonderful folk here at WUWT. I wish you all a great New year. Hopefully a better one than ’20.

Patrick MJD
December 25, 2020 11:12 pm

About this time last year I was kicked out of my family and home. So this year I don’t care much!

Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 26, 2020 4:23 am

and your office building had the covid case? so your in iso again too?
comes under shit happens im afraid mate
give it a couple years it might improve

dodgy geezer
December 26, 2020 3:21 am

I got a delivery of 3/4 ton of clean-burning house coal several weeks before Chrismas. Our open fires are coal at the base, with several logs on top to provide a good flame.

An essential Christmans decoration – and much more interesting to watch than what passes for the telly nowadays…

December 26, 2020 4:13 am

Merry Xmas to all WUWT team and readers;-)
we aussies got ours early;-)
and a ton or so of coal would be nice, its cheaper than wood, but Im not sure how the heater would handle it.

Doug Huffman(@doughuffman)
December 26, 2020 6:24 am

Merry Christmas. God Jul

My greatest Christmas 2020 gift was dinner with friends that arrived unmasked and kissed and hugged their way into my cottage. I have so much missed the intimacy of a happy smile, a hug and The Kiss of Peace.

They are both deniers of the Plandemic, and he proclaimed his deplorable-ness un-prompted.

December 26, 2020 7:52 am

Wish we’d looked closer the coal seem where I spend the first 8 years of my life, in NE BC.

Exposed in a creek cut.

But we kids didn’t want to pry much out because of earth with trees above.

I don’t remember if we even got parents to look at it.

So parents kept on burning wood, which had to be obtained somewhere (no shortage of trees there, trembling aspen not attractive for lumber).

(The whole area has thin seams, as do many areas, occasionally someone floats the idea of getting methane out of the seams, but that area has much natural gas and electricity (though cost of distribution lines was high).)

December 26, 2020 12:10 pm

But the good kids don’t need Christmas lights since their uranium makes them glow in the dark!

Pat from kerbob
December 26, 2020 12:25 pm

Very disappointed no Christmas greetings from griff and loydo as they spend so much time on here, it would have showed some class to at least acknowledge the holiday
And all the effort made to concentrate all this denial in one place.
How toxic can it be since they remain unaffected by it all?

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
December 26, 2020 1:06 pm

Rumor has it that griff and loydo have been tapped to help President-elect Joe Biden formulate his Climate Emergency™ policy.

Remember, Biden has forewarned us on many occasions that he will defeat climate change starting on his first day in office.

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