Guest “And?” by David Middleton
From The Independent…
Jane Fonda has claimed Ivanka Trump “laughed” and then never contacted her again after she appealed for Donald Trump’s help in the fight against climate change.
Fonda was arrested five times in the winter of 2019 while protesting climate change in front of the White House…
[…]
“I actually called Jared, or whatever his name is, and I told him my idea and he said, ‘Well, Ivanka is the environmentalist in the family.’ Yeah, sure. So she called me and I told her my idea and she laughed and I never heard from her again.”
[…]
The Independent
And?
Pretend that Jane Fonda is the caller in this classic Frazier scene…
Hanoi Jane:
To woo Trump in her fight against climate change, Fonda hoped to recruit “four of the most beautiful, sexy, smart, climate-interested women” she could find, and meet with him and “kneel, plead and beg” for his support. She claimed both Pamela Anderson and Sharon Stone were on her wish list.
“We’ll tell him what needs to be done and what a serious crisis this is and we’ll tell him that he will be the world’s greatest hero, that kind of thing,” she remembered.
The Independent
Frazier:
[Jane], at Cornell University they have an incredible piece of scientific equipment known as the tunneling electron microscope. Now, this microscope is so powerful that by firing electrons you can actually see images of the atom, the infinitesimally minute building blocks of our universe. [Jane], if I were using that microscope right now, I still wouldn’t be able to locate my interest in your problem. Thank you for your call.
Quotes.net
…from unknown sources….she claimed
Well, isn’t that JournoListic.
I think Jane Fonda is jealous of the attention Greta is getting. Just because she’s crazy instead of autistic doesn’t mean we shouldn’t pay attention to her. Lol!
Jane said Greta inspired her.
Jane isn’t crazy. She’s just not getting enough attention these days. She’s desperate for it. She simply isn’t important any more and doesn’t realize it.
Or-“I can scarcely conceal my indifference . “
Looking forward to coming back to read the comments on this thread. They should be fun.
Stay safe and healthy, everybody.
Regards,
Bob
Jane Fonda was my favorite climate science perfesser after Al “the climate blimp” Gore, who also invented the internet, and before Greta “thundering” Thunder showed up.
Although Ms. Fonda’s politics do not impress me, I try not to pick on her too much because her mother committed suicide when she was only 12 years old in 1950. Yes, Fonda is really old.
I admit, I sneaked in to see “Barbarella” back in the day.
I’d sneak out if they were playing “An Inconvenient Truth”!
It appears she didn’t.
Many of us have had a difficult past. That does not excuse what we do in the present.
Barbarella was the last time that waco bird was tolerable to the working world. 52 years ago.
Yeah I also try not to say exactly what I think about scumbag traitors who should be finishing up their fifth decade in prison. Oh I hope this isn’t misinterpreted.
No sugarcoating please.
Davis I’m not mild mannered and clever with words like you are.
A Green Economy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evDnJjrCFmY
Quick Dick McDick
Oh, my fat Auny Harriet, he’s funnier than a bunch of kittens in a playpen!
A classic Bimbo result, what she cant find four dumb blonds, sheeeze check the local bars
She laughed at Jane Fonda, sounds like a great reason to vote Trump.
only time ive liked Ivanka, if this is true
Betty White is still around, except she actually has a sense of humor in real life.
ride that gun barrel into an orgasmic frenzy and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
I think that was the other dipstick called Cher?
“Ivanka is the environmentalist in the family.” That’s what I heard as well. Apparently it’s not enough for “whatever her name is”.
The Frazier piece is just so right on. It is exactly what many of us want to say to so many, probably exactly what many of the red-pilled in somewhat sensitive positions or positions of some political import want to say, and more than once, but just can’t force themselves to! So I’m sure if they saw this, they’d be saying, “Ahhhhh, thanks for that little bit of refreshment!”
The reason she laughed is because of their tactics. We’ll get a bunch of beautiful women to kneel, and plead, and beg. Then we’ll stroke his — ego. Yeah, that’ll work.
Ivanka knew better. They have this picture in their minds of what kind of bargaining tactics will work with him, and she knew they were completely wrong.
There’s this interesting book JF should read, I think it’s called The Art of the Deal or something like that.
1000+
Yep, she believed the pee dossier.
yeah now someone get this to a cancel culture page
janes statement just opened a page for all the feminist CC troupe to make an example of her using sex and denigrating women to sell an idea.
tsk tsk
True progressives believe that anything is justifiable so long as it advances the agenda. You won’t find a single progressive who would question this method, just disappointment that it didn’t work.
Seems to be two reactions she evokes:
Laughter at her stupidity and assumption of the high moral gound
Anger at her arrogance and disrespect for service people
I have moved on to total apathy
I didn’t know she was still alive. Is she?
still alive but her “blond moments” are becoming more frequent and more severe…..kinda like Biden.
Back in the 1990-91 I was an instructor at SOMED (The Special Operations Medical course) at Ft. Sam Houston, TX. There were still Hanoi Jane urinal targets in many urinals there. The institutional memory of the Army can be long, especially in a place where there are a lot of vets still working. I have no doubt that Jane Fonda’s image holds the undisputed record for being on the largest number of urinal targets. I think you can still buy the things.
BTW David. Couldn’t you have found a more recent picture of the prune?
BTW, just what was it that she was proposing that “needs to be done,” and is so important that it will save the planet Earth? Surely she can tell everyone, if it’s that crucial, and not just wait for “four of the most beautiful, sexy, smart, climate-interested women” she could find, before she clued the rest of the world in on the secret. Maybe she’d get a better response? Or not, as the case may be.
But in any case, this is Hanoi Jane, and if I didn’t believe her opinions 50 years ago, why should I believe them now, since they’re undoubtedly the same lefty drivel they were then?
Jane and many others believe the Paris Climate thingy was about cutting CO2 emissions and saving the planet. They have never grasped that it was meant as a wealth transfer from the USA to other folks in less successful countries. The money is meant to go through the UN and be parceled out much reduced to other kleptocrats.
I doubt Jane, bless her little heart, and friends can understand this complex concept.
“BTW, just what was it that she was proposing that “needs to be done”
That’s what I was wondering. What was the climate change plan Jane described that made Ivanka laugh?
So, Hanoi Jane, she laughed at you because calling you a stupid idiot would have been mean.
Jane, stick to marrying wealth.
Ivanka had to marry Jared because daddy is broke.
In its 2019 billionaires ranking, Forbes estimated Trump’s net worth at $3.1 billion (715th in the world, 259th in the U.S.)
The campaign is running out of money.
Your mental retardation knows no bounds.
https://www.fec.gov/data/candidates/president/presidential-map/
https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race
Your boy isn’t doing all that well fundrasing: https://us.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/donald-trump-august-fundraising/index.html
They raised over $200 million in August.
T L Winslow: Say after me, slowly and clearly, “Donald Trump is the President of the United States”.
Say after me, slowly and clearly, “Donald Trump called us military types, suckers and losers”
Horst schist.
Two to four anonymous sources vs 21 people who have gone on the record refuting it.
With The President On The Trip
Zach Fuentes, Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff to Gen. John Kelly: “I did not hear POTUS call anyone losers when I told him about the weather. Honestly, do you think General Kelly would have stood by and let ANYONE call fallen Marines losers?” (Breitbart, 9/7/20)
John Bolton, Former National Security Advisor: “I didn’t hear either of those comments or anything even resembling them. I was there at the point in time that morning when it was decided that he would not go Aisne-Marne cemetery. He decided not to do it because of John Kelly’s recommendation. It was entirely a weather-related decision, and I thought the proper thing to do.” (Fox News, 9/4/2020)
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Former White House Press Secretary: “The Atlantic story on @realDonaldTrump is total BS. I was actually there and one of the people part of the discussion – this never happened. I have sat in the room when our President called family members after their sons were killed in action and it was heart-wrenching… These were some of the moments I witnessed the President show his heart and demonstrate how much he respects the selfless and courageous men and women of our military. I am disgusted by this false attack.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Hogan Gidley, Former White House Deputy Press Secretary: “These are disgusting, grotesque, reprehensible lies. I was there in Paris and the President never said those things. In fact, he would never even think such vile thoughts because I know from firsthand knowledge that President Trump absolutely loves, respects, and reveres the brave men and women of the United States military. He always has and always will. These weak, pathetic, cowardly background ‘sources’ do not have the courage or decency to put their names to these false accusations because they know how completely ludicrous they are. It’s sickening that they would hide in the shadows to knowingly try and hurt the morale of our great military simply for an attack on a political opponent.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Dan Scavino, White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications: “I was with POTUS in France, with Sarah, and have been at his side throughout it all. Complete lies by ‘anonymous sources’ that were ‘dropped’ just as he begins to campaign (and surge). A disgraceful attempt to smear POTUS, 60 days before the Presidential Election! Disgusting!!” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Jordan Karem, Former Personal Aide to President Trump: “This is not even close to being factually accurate. Plain and simple, it just never happened.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Johnny DeStefano, Former Counselor to the President: “I was on this trip. The Atlantic bit is not true. Period.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
Stephen Miller, White House Senior Advisor: The accusation is a “despicable lie … The president deeply wanted to attend the memorial event in question and was deeply displeased by the bad weather call.” (Washington Examiner, 9/3/20)
Tony Ornato, White House Deputy Chief of Staff and Former Secret Service Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division, denied The Atlantic article. (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Derek Lyons, Staff Secretary and Counselor to the President: “I was with the President the morning after the scheduled visit. He was extremely disappointed that arrangements could not be made to get him to the site, and that the trip had been cancelled.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
Dan Walsh, Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff: “I can attest to the fact that there was a bad weather call in France, and that the helicopters were unable to safely make the flight.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
First Lady Melania Trump: “@TheAtlantic story is not true. It has become a very dangerous time when anonymous sources are believed above all else, & no one knows their motivation. This is not journalism – It is activism. And it is a disservice to the people of our great nation.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
U.S. Ambassador to France and Monaco Jamie McCourt: “In my presence, POTUS has NEVER denigrated any member of the U.S. military or anyone in service to our country. And he certainly did not that day, either. Let me add, he was devastated to not be able to go to the cemetery at Belleau Wood. In fact, the next day, he attended and spoke at the ceremony in Suresnes in the pouring rain.” (Breitbart, 9/7/20)
Major General (ret.) Bill Matz, Secretary of the American Battle Monuments Commission: “As a former Army infantryman who has flown on many helicopters, I knew that morning the weather was bad and the ceiling was too low for a safe landing that day. When the President’s visit was appropriately canceled due to weather, I received word also that he was upset he would not be able to make the wreath-laying visit and to pay his respect to the 2300 fallen soldiers and Marines interred there.” (Twitter, 9/8/20)
Other Administration Officials
Lt. General Keith Kellogg (Ret.), National Security Adviser for Vice President Pence: “The Atlantic story is completely false. Absolutely lacks merit. I’ve been by the President’s side. He has always shown the highest respect to our active duty troops and veterans with utmost respect paid to those who have given the ultimate sacrifice and those wounded in battle.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Mark Meadows, White House Chief of Staff: “In the time that I’ve known @realDonaldTrump, both as a member of Congress and most recently serving as his Chief of Staff, I’ve seen publicly and privately how he treats our men and women in uniform. I’ve personally accompanied him to Walter Reed and veterans events of all…kinds, where he directly interacts with service members and their families, with and without cameras present. I’ve seen firsthand the level of respect and admiration he has for those who have stepped up to serve our country. The anonymous allegations… ..contained in the Atlantic story are offensive, false, and utterly devoid of merit. To veterans all over the country reading this nonsense: President Trump loves you, appreciates you, and will ALWAYS be there for you. No false political hit job will EVER change that.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Alyssa Farah, White House Communications Director: “On that Atlantic piece: It’s offensive & patently false. @realDonaldTrump holds the military in the highest regard. He’s demonstrated his commitment to the force: delivering a pay raise to our troops, increasing military $$, signing vets reform & supporting military spouses. I’ve watched @realDonaldTrump solemnly sign letters to the families of fallen heroes. He’s honored their memories by doing more than any modern president to get us OUT of endless wars.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Kayleigh McEnany, Press Secretary for President Trump: “I see President @realDonaldTrump consistently express his heartfelt gratitude and absolute admiration for our brave men and women in uniform. Just yesterday, he was truly humbled to be in the presence of our courageous World War II veterans. This Atlantic story is garbage!” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Judd Deere, Deputy Press Secretary for President Trump: “Not a soul brave enough to put their name on any of these accusations. That’s because they are false. Just another anonymously sourced story meant to tear down a Commander-in-Chief who loves our military and has delivered on the promises he’s made. What a disgrace!” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Mick Mulvaney, Former Acting White House Chief of Staff: “These claims are simply outrageous. I never heard the President disparage our war dead or wounded. In fact, the exact opposite is true. I was with him at the 75th Anniversary of the D-Day invasion in Normandy. As we flew over the beaches by helicopter he was outwardly in awe of the accomplishments of the Allied Forces, and the sacrifices they paid.”
Nick Ayers, Former Chief of Staff to Vice President Mike Pence: “This is totally and completely false.” (Twitter, 9/8/20)
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/wtas-officials-say-the-atlantic-story-is-false/
1 anonymous source says it happened.
Everyone who was actually there said it didn’t happen.
Which does the troll prefer to believe?
John Bolton is a frequent critic of Trump.
Had Trump said anything like that, Bolton would have been in front of cameras denouncing Trump at the time, not years later.
Doesn’t matter what “other” people say, all that matters is what this guy said: https://youtu.be/541Cg2Jnb8s
Red herring.
What Donald Trump said about John McCain in 2015 is irrelevant to the lie published in The Atlantic.
Notably absent from you list of denials is mention of what General John Kelly said. Can’t wait to hear from him.
Another red herring.
We have 2-4 anonymous sources making a claim.
We have 21 people on the record saying the claim is a lie. 14 of whom were with President Trump on the trip.
We have zero-point-zero people on the record, supporting the anonymous sources.
General John Kelly made it to the ceremony at Aisne-Marne. Why couldn’t Trump? (hint: Kelly didn’t fly by helicopter)
Shocking! Another red herring.
Actually McCain has always been a jerk who has only cared about himself. For years he was loved by the media because he could always be counted on to dump on his fellow Republicans. He was actually dumb enough to believe that he would continue to be loved by the media when he ran for president against a real Democrat.
Regardless, the troll prefers to believe the one anonymous person (assuming it wasn’t just the reporter making it up) who says what he wants to believe against almost 2 dozen eye witnesses.
Says lots about the troll, nothing about Trump.
Melaina wasn’t with Trump in Europe, so how can you cite her as being able to repudiate anything?
Melania was on the trip…
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-first-lady-melania-trumps-visit-france/
President Trumps’ recollection that he called her was inaccurate.
How many other people you cited were not in Europe with Trump?
The list states who was on the trip (14) and who wasn’t on the trip (7).
Try to follow along:
With The President On The Trip
Zach Fuentes, Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff to Gen. John Kelly: “I did not hear POTUS call anyone losers when I told him about the weather. Honestly, do you think General Kelly would have stood by and let ANYONE call fallen Marines losers?” (Breitbart, 9/7/20)
John Bolton, Former National Security Advisor: “I didn’t hear either of those comments or anything even resembling them. I was there at the point in time that morning when it was decided that he would not go Aisne-Marne cemetery. He decided not to do it because of John Kelly’s recommendation. It was entirely a weather-related decision, and I thought the proper thing to do.” (Fox News, 9/4/2020)
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Former White House Press Secretary: “The Atlantic story on @realDonaldTrump is total BS. I was actually there and one of the people part of the discussion – this never happened. I have sat in the room when our President called family members after their sons were killed in action and it was heart-wrenching… These were some of the moments I witnessed the President show his heart and demonstrate how much he respects the selfless and courageous men and women of our military. I am disgusted by this false attack.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Hogan Gidley, Former White House Deputy Press Secretary: “These are disgusting, grotesque, reprehensible lies. I was there in Paris and the President never said those things. In fact, he would never even think such vile thoughts because I know from firsthand knowledge that President Trump absolutely loves, respects, and reveres the brave men and women of the United States military. He always has and always will. These weak, pathetic, cowardly background ‘sources’ do not have the courage or decency to put their names to these false accusations because they know how completely ludicrous they are. It’s sickening that they would hide in the shadows to knowingly try and hurt the morale of our great military simply for an attack on a political opponent.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Dan Scavino, White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications: “I was with POTUS in France, with Sarah, and have been at his side throughout it all. Complete lies by ‘anonymous sources’ that were ‘dropped’ just as he begins to campaign (and surge). A disgraceful attempt to smear POTUS, 60 days before the Presidential Election! Disgusting!!” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Jordan Karem, Former Personal Aide to President Trump: “This is not even close to being factually accurate. Plain and simple, it just never happened.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Johnny DeStefano, Former Counselor to the President: “I was on this trip. The Atlantic bit is not true. Period.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
Stephen Miller, White House Senior Advisor: The accusation is a “despicable lie … The president deeply wanted to attend the memorial event in question and was deeply displeased by the bad weather call.” (Washington Examiner, 9/3/20)
Tony Ornato, White House Deputy Chief of Staff and Former Secret Service Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division, denied The Atlantic article. (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Derek Lyons, Staff Secretary and Counselor to the President: “I was with the President the morning after the scheduled visit. He was extremely disappointed that arrangements could not be made to get him to the site, and that the trip had been cancelled.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
Dan Walsh, Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff: “I can attest to the fact that there was a bad weather call in France, and that the helicopters were unable to safely make the flight.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
First Lady Melania Trump: “@TheAtlantic story is not true. It has become a very dangerous time when anonymous sources are believed above all else, & no one knows their motivation. This is not journalism – It is activism. And it is a disservice to the people of our great nation.” (Twitter, 9/4/20)
U.S. Ambassador to France and Monaco Jamie McCourt: “In my presence, POTUS has NEVER denigrated any member of the U.S. military or anyone in service to our country. And he certainly did not that day, either. Let me add, he was devastated to not be able to go to the cemetery at Belleau Wood. In fact, the next day, he attended and spoke at the ceremony in Suresnes in the pouring rain.” (Breitbart, 9/7/20)
Major General (ret.) Bill Matz, Secretary of the American Battle Monuments Commission: “As a former Army infantryman who has flown on many helicopters, I knew that morning the weather was bad and the ceiling was too low for a safe landing that day. When the President’s visit was appropriately canceled due to weather, I received word also that he was upset he would not be able to make the wreath-laying visit and to pay his respect to the 2300 fallen soldiers and Marines interred there.” (Twitter, 9/8/20)
These people were not on the trip:
Other Administration Officials
Lt. General Keith Kellogg (Ret.), National Security Adviser for Vice President Pence: “The Atlantic story is completely false. Absolutely lacks merit. I’ve been by the President’s side. He has always shown the highest respect to our active duty troops and veterans with utmost respect paid to those who have given the ultimate sacrifice and those wounded in battle.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Mark Meadows, White House Chief of Staff: “In the time that I’ve known @realDonaldTrump, both as a member of Congress and most recently serving as his Chief of Staff, I’ve seen publicly and privately how he treats our men and women in uniform. I’ve personally accompanied him to Walter Reed and veterans events of all…kinds, where he directly interacts with service members and their families, with and without cameras present. I’ve seen firsthand the level of respect and admiration he has for those who have stepped up to serve our country. The anonymous allegations… ..contained in the Atlantic story are offensive, false, and utterly devoid of merit. To veterans all over the country reading this nonsense: President Trump loves you, appreciates you, and will ALWAYS be there for you. No false political hit job will EVER change that.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Alyssa Farah, White House Communications Director: “On that Atlantic piece: It’s offensive & patently false. @realDonaldTrump holds the military in the highest regard. He’s demonstrated his commitment to the force: delivering a pay raise to our troops, increasing military $$, signing vets reform & supporting military spouses. I’ve watched @realDonaldTrump solemnly sign letters to the families of fallen heroes. He’s honored their memories by doing more than any modern president to get us OUT of endless wars.” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Kayleigh McEnany, Press Secretary for President Trump: “I see President @realDonaldTrump consistently express his heartfelt gratitude and absolute admiration for our brave men and women in uniform. Just yesterday, he was truly humbled to be in the presence of our courageous World War II veterans. This Atlantic story is garbage!” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Judd Deere, Deputy Press Secretary for President Trump: “Not a soul brave enough to put their name on any of these accusations. That’s because they are false. Just another anonymously sourced story meant to tear down a Commander-in-Chief who loves our military and has delivered on the promises he’s made. What a disgrace!” (Twitter, 9/3/20)
Mick Mulvaney, Former Acting White House Chief of Staff: “These claims are simply outrageous. I never heard the President disparage our war dead or wounded. In fact, the exact opposite is true. I was with him at the 75th Anniversary of the D-Day invasion in Normandy. As we flew over the beaches by helicopter he was outwardly in awe of the accomplishments of the Allied Forces, and the sacrifices they paid.”
Nick Ayers, Former Chief of Staff to Vice President Mike Pence: “This is totally and completely false.” (Twitter, 9/8/20)
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/wtas-officials-say-the-atlantic-story-is-false/
Thank you for admitting that 7 people you cited were not on the trip.
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Next time, leave them out.
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And I want to hear what you say when Kelly opens up. You see, if Trump didn’t say those things, I’m pretty sure Kelly would attest to it…….otherwise the only explanation you can proffer is that Kelly is “protecting” his former boss from embarrassment. At least we know Kelly doesn’t lie like Cadet Bone Spurs.
More red herrings.
Everyone who was on the trip, who has gone on the record, says President Trump did not say anything like that. John Bolton was with him when the call was made to not go to the cemetery.
Middleton the problem you have with the fourteen (14) people that attest to Trump not saying losers and suckers is that you well know you cannot prove a negative. I am pretty sure that all 14 of them were not with him 24×7 for the past three months.
According to the anonymous sources, President Trump made the comment in 2018, on the trip to France, when the decision was made to not attend the ceremony.
According to everyone, who was on the trip, who has gone on record, President Trump never said anything like this, including the people present when the decision was made to not attend the ceremony.
Astounding that Fox News (TrumpTV) confirms the anonymous accusations!!!!!!
Hahahahaha. TL Winslow, believe anything the fake-news says much? That’s a pathetic condition to be in. Our condolences.
“Say after me, slowly and clearly, “Donald Trump called us military types, suckers and losers”
I heard this morning that the writer of the article, the editor of the Atlantic magazine has withdrawn this story.
“Astounding that Fox News (TrumpTV) confirms the anonymous accusations!!!!!!”
Wrong!
Jennifer Griffin, the Fox News reporter you refer to, did not confirm that Trump called the troops losers.
What Jennifer Griffin confirmed was that Trump said of military people: “Why do they do what they do? They don’t get very much money”
Jennifer Griffin did confirm this statement. Trump has said it in public on more than one occasion, and in the presence of military people.
When Trump asks this question he wants the listener to think about what military people do. They have a hard, possible lethal job and they don’t get paid a lot of money to do it, so Trump wants you to realize that the troops are not doing it for the money, they are doing it for a higher purpose. Trump is praising the troops when he says this.
The problem occurs when you get leftwing reporters involved in interpreting what Trump means. His simple statement of admiration for the troops was turned into him disparaging the troops because they did a very hard job for little money so they must not be very smart.
But, of course, that’s not what Trump meant.
Here you go, TL:
https://justthenews.com/accountability/media/government-heavyweights-traveling-trump-2018-and-navy-foia-documents-rebut
On-the-record sources, paper trail rebut anonymous claims Trump disrespected American war dead
“After his article was published, Goldberg himself even admitted he believed the President’s account of why the cemetery trip was nixed.
“I’m sure all of those things are true,” Goldberg told CNN in an interview with CNN’s “New Day” on Friday after he was asked about an account from John Bolton, Trump’s former national security adviser. Bolton wrote in his recent book “The Room Where it Happened” (which is otherwise highly critical of Trump) about the helicopter trip being cancelled due to rain and the ground transportation options being curtailed due to traffic constraints that would be placed on the French people.”
end excerpt
Other than TL, does anyone think Trump is dumb enough to disparage Ameican troops in front of American military officers? It’s an absurd claim. The spat with McCain didn’t mean Trump disliked the military, it meant he disliked McCain. And for good reason, having nothing to do with McCain’s military service.
“He was actually dumb enough to believe that he would continue to be loved by the media when he ran for president against a real Democrat.”
Yes, McCain really got a surprise over that one. The Leftwing Media turned on him as soon as he became a political threat to their socialist dreams.
Jane Fonda was working closer to reality in the movie Cat Ballou than she ever will be in the fantasy Catastrophic Climate Change! Lee Marvin, as Kid Shelleen, stole the show in Cat Ballou!
https://youtu.be/cz6fKjtQ1zI
Both good comedies, though!
“Anyone for another cuppa tea ? ”
Would be of vastly more importance and relevance.
Tea to her?
Waste a good poison?
She would love the attention of a near-death experience.
Blame it on GLOBAL WARMING
Someone tell Mosh that we may set a record for the coldest daytime high even with the effects from the urban heat island.
He is probably out contact tracing himself again.
Many low temperature records are being broken today and tomorrow in Colorado, along with snow records, all going back to the late 1800’s. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the snow will help protect our plants from the cold temps that will be reached. If the snow doesn’t protect them, maybe the global warming will.
“Many low temperature records are being broken today and tomorrow in Colorado”
We are supposed to have a record low temperature tonight in Oklahoma.
Poor mosh, he has made himself about as relevant and important as Hanoi Jane.
Not a low record yet, but the overnight temp dropped to just barely 59F. Low for this time of year.
Oh, wait – that was off-topic about weather, not about whats-her-name. Sorry.
Should I do it again, for emphasis?
Jane, this is Ashleigh, Ashleigh this is Jane. You have a lot to talk about.
If I’m a racist, subhuman demon because I was born white then there is nothing left to talk about. My only question is, when can I act like my demonic deplorable self without consequences?
please
just dont do it wearing more lycra;-)))
Once upon a time, liberals believed that judging people based solely on the color of their skin was the definition of racism.
How do you judge an elder man with orange skin?
By the mental retardation of his critics.
Cameras don’t lie:
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They hate Trump, yet they can’t stop thinking about him.
It never ceases to fascinate me how trolls fixate on the most meaningless of factors.
I guess it beats thinking for themselves.
It’s ok Jane, everyone laughs at you. Or is it curses you for your acts of treason. I forget which.
Jane is still better looking than Ivanka
Aside from the fact that that is not true (depending on one’s personal taste), SO WHAT?
The woman I married probably wouldn’t get a second look from a man who passed her on the street (unless she was smiling).
But I didn’t marry her because of that smile. I asked her to marry me because of what was behind that smile. I’ve stayed with her despite the frequent frowns. Because of what I saw behind both.
She loves God. So do I.
She could say similarly about me.
King James Bible
And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
Ivanka renounced Christianity. That makes the inside of her ugly.
@Charles – WUWT is tolerant of many views. Those of a Jew-hating bigot should not be among them.
So in addition to not being very amusing, clever, entertaining or informative , TL Winslow reveals himself as a hate riddled bigot. ‘Nuff said.
Hey TL Winslow. Christ was a Jew!
BTW it was a Rabbi that delivered what I believe to be the most moving eulogy ever given. Rabbi Rolland Gittelsohn was asked by the head Division Chaplin, a Protestant, to give the Nondenominational Eulogy for the Marines buried at the 5th Marine Div. cemetery on Iwo Jima. But prejudice like yours prevailed and not wanting to cause problems Rolland withdrew and Christian Chaplain gave that Eulogy. The Rabbi gave his for the Jewish denomination. On hearing the remarkable service a copy was made and forwarded to the higher command. Newspapers all over the country printed it. Here it is:
https://youtu.be/v886NgjSOF0
Thank you, rah, for sharing this. I had not heard/read it before
God help us all if we ever have to fight battles like this again – with the current crop of 20-30-somethings manning/personing the lines.
Probably have to rely on 60-70-somethings like us!
Getting old enough for a serious change of glasses, eh?
I’m old enough that I simply switched to a set of wine glasses.
Really?
When Jane said:
“To woo Trump in her fight against climate change, Fonda hoped to recruit “four of the most beautiful, sexy, smart, climate-interested women” she could find, and meet with him and “kneel, plead and beg” for his support. She claimed both Pamela Anderson and Sharon Stone were on her wish list.”
I was wondering if Jane thought she one of four.
So there at two things to laugh at, that Jane thought was one of four sexy women and idea that even if got four, that this would “work” on the President.
BUT I bet Trump would love to to tell the story.
Either way, so, “these 4 sexy women ask me to do something about climate, and obviously, I said yes”. Wait for crowd to laugh. Oh maybe, “There was 4 sexy women asking me to do something about climate, and said, I need 6 of most beautiful, sexy, smartest women to close the deal”.
Trump would drool over each one of the women you mentioned. He would grab their …… because he thinks he can get away with it. Didn’t he comment to Howard Stern about Ivanka in the same manner?
TLW,
You have a severe case of TDS. There is no vaccine. One has to cure one’s self.
You missed the memo.
News writer Salena Zito made an interesting observation.
Here is the way it is expressed in an ‘Atlantic’ article:
“When he makes claims like this, the press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
When I presented that thought to him, he paused again, “Now that’s interesting.”“
What Trump bragged about, Biden actually did. At least, there are credible accusers who say he did. Why are there so many people who hate Trump for his words but are so willing to forgive Biden, Clinton, Kennedy, etc. for their actions in the way they treated women? Are words worse than actions?
And… Trump bragged about the fact that the status as a celebrity made that sort of behavior possible, if not acceptable in Hollywood.
yup COULD do something and DID do something are totally different. some people cannot understand that.
Some people don’t want to understand that.
No he didn’t. Why do you insist on just making stuff up?
Go away
His wife is far more attractive.
Hiden’s wife is a dog.
No wonder that Joe has been frantically sniffing everything.
See a doctor. Seriously. Ivanka is beautiful inside and out. Jane….not so much.
TDS, is a very sick obsessive disease.
Abandoning Christianity makes Ivanka ugly. Not to mention that she need to touch up the roots of her hair.
Only Christians are beautiful? How many different types bigotry do you practice?
You seem a bit obsessed. Perhaps you should go peddle your trolling somewhere where there aren’t inquiring minds.
I suspect he’s been kicked out of more places than we have ever visited.
It really is sad how hatred distorts all of the senses.
TL, I suggest you wait until you sober up before trying to make assessments of beauty. Beer goggles tend to distort ones vision. just saying.
These principles are making me nauseous.
If I had to pick one person who is more responsible than anyone else for CO2 emissions it would be Jane Fonda, star of the ridiculous anti nuclear film China Syndrome.
Your phone rings, and you ( unfortunately) answer it:
“Hello?”
Jane: “This is Jane Fonda calling you about a Prince named Prince Albert (in a can) Gore of the Island nation of Binomo, who has significant wealth but is in exile, and really needs to access his funds. He has offered you $ 20 million dollars if you help him make bail by giving me your bank acct. number so he can transfer the $100 million to your account”…
“She claimed both Pamela Anderson and Sharon Stone were on her wish list.”
Pamela Anderson, I get it. (Malibu => sea level rise, waves, etc.)
But Stone? She sells glasses in France. Relevance of climate?
Being on her wish list doesn’t mean that they actually agreed to go along with Jane’s stunt.
I was going to say something about “cunning stunts”…
…. but decided not to…
+++++++
well unsaid;-)))
Indeed. MarkW. Had she ever got as far as to ask them, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if they laughed in her face as well regardless of where they happen to be on the pro-/anti- Trump spectrum. She’d have better luck getting fellow TDS suffering starlets like Alyssa Milano onboard her ridiculous idea. Still wouldn’t have work (Trump himself would likely laugh in their faces and then ridicule them on twitter!).
Dear Jane,
Neither Bill Clinton nor Joe Biden are President.
Such enticements will not effect policy.
Sincerely,
Gunga Din
PS Did you cheer when John McCain’s plane was shot down?
Oy Vey we go from Bill McKibben to Hanoi Jane
I remember hearing a story of her and then husband Ted Tuner buying a big property in Montana (maybe Wyoming?) and going into a local restaurant.
The owner was a Vietnam vet.
He refused them service.
I hope that happened.
California’s brilliant governor announced today that he has no patience with the “climate deniers”.
His state is burning down and it’s all because of climate change.
But he has lots of patience with poop in the streets, poop in the Salons, “organic substance” in his policies causing “brown outs” … etc.
His state is also in the dark because of his misguided climate policies. So maybe he can’t see the fires in the dark.
Hanoi Jane and Tom Hayden. Remember that odious little leftist, Tom Hayden? A more disgusting pair I cannot imagine.
now hanoi jane, everyone knows how you stretch the truth, everyone does laugh at you though.
Don’t be too harsh on the folks who have swallowed the climate koolaid wholesale.
I read something once that stuck with me. A Vietnamese farmer was being interviewed as to what he thought about the effectiveness of North Vietnamese propaganda. These were the commies, the guys who won the war, who still sit and govern in Hanoi today. This peasant said, the first time you hear the propaganda, you don’t necessarily believe it or even pay much attention. But after you’ve been forced to listen to it a thousand times, some of it starts to stick in your brain…
Towns in communist countries used to have loudspeakers mounted on the telephone poles, blaring out propaganda all day long.
What I’m getting at is the relentless daily propaganda and gaslighting of these climate clowns has had and is having major effects. We here may be immune, but many aren’t.
We all know life’s a bit of a struggle from time to time but lefties make a pathological art form out of it. It’s impossible to diagnose any particular cause but the common thread is everybody else paying dearly for the cure of their affliction.
If this claim was is true maybe Ivanka isn’t too bad after all .
I made a note of this comment by Stephen McIntyre …
“Let’s give credit where credit is due. As a scientist, Jane Fonda may well rank among the top 1% of US climate scientists.
A lesser known fact about Michael Mann’s career, according to anonymous officials, is that Jane Fonda was asked to be co-author of the original Hockey Stick article in order to enhance intellectual reputation and H-factor but the deal fell apart when she insisted on being the lead author.
Scholars regret Fonda’s ultimate non-participation in the Hockey Stick article. They believe that her statistical acumen, while not overwhelming, would have supplied perspective and skills that were lacking in the remaining co-authors.”
BRUTAL!
Jane Fonda pretended to be a nuclear engineer in the film “The China Syndrome”. She’s a dim-witted actress, no more.
It must be the silly season of climate change or something? Here we have Jane Anarchy Funder telling us some one laughed at her? Well when you find someone who doesn’t laugh at her come tell us. Then in the Telegraph yesterday, they rolled out another crusty old biddy a nobody called Bianca Shagger or some such name, to say the XR people were right to protest but it’s not a good idea to block off press distribution, because you have to convince people of things.
Time to bring out another of those eminent, man made climate change spokespersons someone with years of knowledge and understanding about the subject, someone who couldn’t concentrate at school so dropped out at 13 all those long years back, well about four years back actually. Bring on Greta to give the world the full extent of her vast climate change wisdom, go on, “Dare You”.
LOL! Michael Moore got an Oscar too! And Michael Mann got a Nobel Prize. Just ask him! Glad I never had to see either of them naked.
Jeez rah, the thought of either Michael naked, has put me off my steak and freedom fries, I had planned for supper.
There is nothing for it but to fire up the Hummer and nip down to the store for a pack of Bud and a burger maybe….only forty miles each way, so three gallons there and three gallons back 🙂
Got in from my first round trip to Romulus, MI at 06:00 this morning. I take off for my 2nd round trip to Romulus, MI at 18:30. I used 68 gallons of diesel last night. Will use more than that tonight since last time I went up empty and this time I am going up loaded.
La Fondue has just been given a soft rant as much as you like interview on BBC morning radio telling us it is all worse than we thought followed immediately by a typical BBC scare story threatening us with West Antarctic melting and a “glacier” responsible for 5 per cent of sea level rise. There seems to be no effort to explain the difference between glaciers and ice shelf to aid the scare element of the story – still less any context about overall Antarctic ice.
News management at its most deceitful and so BBC .
Their new DG is determined to save them, but they have immediately made it clear that they are having none of it. The govt. has described decriminalizing the Licence fee as a “done deal”, if the the Beeb apparatchiks aren’t careful they will throw in “and you only need one if you watch the BBC”. And that would be good.
Okay, look: Jane Fonda does nudity in Barbarella. Okay? Get a hold of the DVD and watch it, and you’ll see what I mean. I’m not putting up with you guys putting her down. Just don’t do it.
She wants to get Sharon Stone and Melanie Griffiths to kneel before Donald Trump in a effort to convince him of the seriousness of her point of view. Now I respect that in women, even if you people don’t.
She won an Oscar. Doesn’t that mean anything any more? And look how good she looks, in spite of never having had plastic surgery. You people better couth up. I’m telling you.
Okay, look: Jane Fonda does nudity in Barbarella. Okay?
Just because most straight guys would be happy to watch young Jane take off her cloths doesn’t mean what old Jane has to say about climate or anything else is of any value. And trust me, most of us guys that would enjoy watching Barbarella for those scenes would not want to watch Jane re-enacting those scenes today, as ageist as that may be.
She won an Oscar. Doesn’t that mean anything any more?
Oscars meaning anything? Bwahahahahahaha.
In future, please remember to include the /sarc tag.
I could tolerate a great deal more of this climate change tripe if nuclear energy innovation and research had not been “frozen” 50 years ago… by Jane and her ilk.
Never cared about the Hanoi Jane thing. Okay so a young airhead toured ‘Nam surrounded by men with guns and failed (even if it had been within her) to denounce them in their own press delivering some hypothetical speech that every “Hanoi Jane” accuser has constructed from hindsight, in their own mind.
Nuclear powered grids are the only thing that could prevent breakdown and (ultimately) cannibalism. Every utopian energy dream begins in a world where the large portion of “unsustainable” urban population has obliged everyone kindly by being already dead. After a grid down crash/reset urban populations would be on the move eating food warehouses -> farm animals -> farmers -> prairie survivalists -> mountain survivalists -> each other.
The Cannibal Army were such an unsolvable problem — with their self-sustaining marches across the countryside eating locals and people they had overtaken the road, the sheer numbers… in the book “Lucifer’s Hammer” by Pournelle/Niven the defenders have to channel the horror of WWI and resort to chlorine gas to even the score.
I spent years trying to argue the technical points and energy density. Now I’m exhausted and just tell the young, “Nuclear Energy or Cannibalism: your choice. Choose quickly.”
Mustard gas
Fonda spent her entire life making bad decisions. She’s been truly embarrassing. Why does she still think she’s qualified to tell us what to do?
Jane and most of Hollywood need to be laughed at a lot more often. It’s the only way to put them and their publicists in their place.
Ugh. Looks like that self-important smirk around Hanoi Jane’s mouth has become permanent.
Well wait a minute, Hollywood will be important in Dems losing House and Senate seats during the backlash to crazy Dems wrecking the economy, courts, lower and middle income households, safety, and borders. Go for it Jane and invoke Jesus too.
The only thing worse than youthful stupidity is aging stupidity. And lifelong conviction to an idea should not be substituted for lifelong learning or fact checking.
Perhaps with the new cancel culture it is time to start sharing all the old pictures of Hanoi Jane doing the tomahawk chop in support of hubby#?(not interested enough to google) baseball team. Let her fellow travellers deal with her.
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/msnbc-s-joy-reid-apologizes-insensitive-lgbt-blog-posts-n826091
And voilà with a few empty words, Joy Reid gets off the sh*thole.
Joy Reid was not “cancelled”, not never called for that by MSNBC. Not even a small sanction. She could even drag in her mud the liberal’s darling “Wayback Machine”/”The Internet Archive” archive.org and
c u c k sliberals didn’t even try to defend that Website.https://theintercept.com/2018/04/24/msnbcs-joy-reid-claims-her-website-was-hacked-and-bigoted-anti-lgbt-content-added-a-bizarre-story-liberal-outlets-ignore/
The “Wayback Machine” – and other archiving sites, there are a few alternatives – are very important for many people. They keep the media, other publishers, and customer services honest by making evident that news articles, other published content and TOS pages existed previously in some state that may be different from the later state. Trying to discredit it was reckless, arrogant, irresponsible and I think evil. But the left has mostly forgotten or doesn’t even realize the implication of doing that.
Perhaps with the new cancel culture it is time to start sharing all the old pictures of Hanoi Jane doing the tomahawk chop in support of hubby#?(not interested enough to google) baseball team. Let her fellow travellers deal with her.
Jane needs a Climate Change intervention.