Is Joe Biden Copying the Mistakes of Australia’s “Unloseable” Climate Election?

Left, Failed Aussie Green Left Leader Bill Shorten. By Ross Caldwell – Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, Link. Right, Democrat Presidential wannabe Joe Biden. By David Lienemann – White House (V011013DL-0556), Public Domain, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t JoNova; Democrat Presidential Candidate Joe Biden is rushing to the polls with a plan to slam everyone with a raft of new green taxes. But as the 2019 Australian experience demonstrates, you cannot win an election by campaigning for higher taxes and the destruction of entire industries, no matter how much big city media cheerleaders love your plan to slam the deplorables.

Biden gambles on placing climate change at heart of US energy policy

Derek Brower, US energy editor

Republicans say the promise to invest $2tn in green energy threatens tens of thousands of jobs in oil and gas sector

He served in an Obama administration that oversaw a historic surge in American oil and gas production, as shale went mainstream. Tens of thousands of wells were drilled and energy-bearing rocks fractured from North Dakota to Texas. And the industry cheered when the government he was part of lifted a ban on crude exports in 2015.

Yet, Joe Biden — armed with a commanding lead in the polls ahead of November’s US presidential election — now promises a root-and-branch overhaul of the American energy system that will put climate change at its heart and which one worried industry adviser describes as “a Tet offensive” on the fossil fuels industry.

The plan, which will be aired again at the Democratic party convention this week, earmarks $2tn in spending over the next four years to use climate policy to drag the economy out of its pandemic-era recession. But Mr Biden’s plans for the energy sector would reach into everything from Middle East geopolitics to the global race with China over clean tech and is likely to prove unpopular among parts of the US electorate — dependent on oil and gas for jobs — in an election year.

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How does Biden’s strategy compare to Australia in 2019? The parallels are remarkable.

The increasingly left wing Australian Labor Party went to the polls in 2019 against struggling incumbents, with a plan to do everything their most radical green inner city supporters wanted; hardline social justice, elimination of coal mining and new curbs on industry, police reform, carbon pricing, massive investment in renewables. They ignored the protests of rural supporters, coal miners and industrial unions.

Cheered on by big city journalists, Labor thought they couldn’t lose. I thought they couldn’t lose. One of the few people I know who called it right was my accountant friend.

My friend said “you cannot win an election by promising new taxes”. All his clients, all his friends, thought Labor would win, they thought everyone else would vote for Labor. But they had no intention of personally voting for a candidate who they thought would make their own life more difficult.

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August 17, 2020 6:05 pm

The Trump campaign should exploit this.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Mike Dombroski
August 17, 2020 8:43 pm

The Biden-Harris anti-fracking, anti-natural gas positions in the Green New Deal platform has probably already lost them Pennsylvania and Ohio. They probably can’t win Florida either, with Bernie’s close association with the policies and his adoration of the Castro regime. Plus Florida gets 80% of its electricity from Natural Gas, that is clean natural gas that Dementia Joe wants to eliminate and drive electricity prices through the roof.

So it really comes down to a few States like Michigan and Wisconsin to get Trump-Pence across the 270 EC votes finish line.

To wit: Michigan’s Governor Gretchen Whitmer just gave a speech tonight at the Dem’s Loser Convention. She is hated in her state today with her handling of the COVID mandates and willingness to destroy Michigan’s small businesses, like a cackling ugly witch she is. If she were to face an re-election today, Governor Whitmer would lose in landslide to a ham sandwich. So I see good chance Trump-Pence will carry Michigan. So with Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, South Carolina, and maybe New Hampshire he gets past 270 right now. A question will be South Carolina and how Biden and Harris will play there with the black vote. I think most blacks have gotten tired of being assumed as safe for Democrats. So assuming Trump-Pence can win South Carolina, then the rest doesn’t matter as the Blue and Red states will follow their expected outcomes. Biden-Harris may likely win the irrelevant popular with big vote percentages in California and New York, but those don’t matter in the actual race to 270 EC votes.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 17, 2020 9:36 pm

There are gullible people in OH and PA that don’t think Biden is anti-fracking. As an ignorant poster proclaimed here on WUWT, the word “fracking” doesn’t appear on Biden’s campaign page.

As for FL…media has been going all-out since COVID started to make FL Gov DeSantis look bad – with Trump guilty by association. There are STILL people who pretend FL has done things wrong by flattening the curve while NY with its high death-rate and huge sharp early peak “got COVID under control quickly and did things the right way.”

Reply to  Michael Jankowski
August 18, 2020 7:57 pm

There’s video of him in a debate saying he would ban fracking and new oil exploration even if it put hundreds of thousands of people out of work. I’m hoping that’s running on a loop in ads in oil states.

Steve Case
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 17, 2020 11:00 pm

Trump won Wisconsin in 2016 because Wisconsin passed a photo ID voter law. The Democrats have had four years to figure out how to circumvent that.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Steve Case
August 18, 2020 12:25 am

Yeah, I figure with the Dem governor there and all the dirty stuff Wisconsin Democrats are well known for, Wisconsin is a lost cause. They are probably not very far from enacting California-style ballot harvesting.

Reply to  Steve Case
August 18, 2020 7:02 am

Voter ID laws are one of the big reasons why Democrats started pushing mail in voting.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Steve Case
August 18, 2020 11:16 am

Considering the treasonous-level of cheating, (and the on-going coup from the progressive left since) in an election when they thought they had it in the bag, I can’t even imagine what BS they’re working up this time – particularly, since most of them got themselves prison-sentence worth the last time.
The LAST thing these people want is true justice.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 17, 2020 11:30 pm

Trafalgar Group were the only pollsters to get 2016 right. “the others aren’t identifying Trump voters”. They say he has a couple of points lead.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 18, 2020 7:00 am

I’ve been hearing rumblings that the Dems better not take New York for granted.
Between Cuomo’s mishandling of the COVID19 crisis and Blasio’s mishandling of everything, but most recently the riots, Democrats are a lot less popular than they used to be.
The NYC police union breaking a near 40 year tradition of not endorsing anyone, to endorse Trump, has shaken up a lot of people.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 18, 2020 7:48 am

You’d think that running an invalid and the daughter of a slave-owner would be a strike against them.

But that’s always been the progressives’ main base.

george Tetley
Reply to  Mike Dombroski
August 19, 2020 8:06 am

bIDEN WINS ! and Hunter buys an Island in the Caribbean for $700,000,000 and you think that’s all? NO ! Hunter has now got the keys to the bank just look at his history over the last 6 months $ 50,000 a night in strip joints in New York, New house in Los Angeles $2,600,000 payed $650,000 tax bill and has never worked a day in his life ! 3 times in drug rehabilitation, BUT cannot pay his child support ( as of 2 weeks ago )
Mike you ant seen nothing yet

August 17, 2020 6:07 pm

..and as long as they can hide Biden in the basement…he’ll get away with it

Reply to  Latitude
August 17, 2020 7:50 pm

It helps Biden that Exxon Mobil and BP are on his green team, as well as Ford and GM.

“There’s big money in that white powder, pop.” Sonny Corleone

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Latitude
August 17, 2020 8:49 pm

The Democrats still have to figure out how to get Joe out of the televised debates with Trump.
There is no way Dementia-ridden Joe can stand up on a stage with live TV, with no teleprompter or notes to read from, no little bluetooth earpiece feeding him lines to say, and be able to answer questions in a coherent manner for 2 solid hours with the combative Trump at the top of his game.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 17, 2020 9:37 pm

When are these taking place?

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
August 17, 2020 10:13 pm

Google is your friend.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 18, 2020 7:59 am

There is no way Dementia-ridden Joe can stand up on a stage
actually there is. TV news casters have been doing it for years. A small “in ear” hearing aid that is actually a radio receiver.

That hearing aid in Joe’s ear will be giving him the answers.

Reply to  ferdberple
August 18, 2020 9:51 am

Doesn’t it take a very quick mind to follow that kind of prompter without stopping to listen?

Ian W
Reply to  Fran
August 18, 2020 12:55 pm

More likely – stopping and saying : “Sorry can you say that again?”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 18, 2020 1:08 pm

“The Democrats still have to figure out how to get Joe out of the televised debates with Trump.”

Joe will have to get by his acceptance speech for the Democrat nomination later this week. Even I will be watching that one. I’ll want to see if Joe is coherent enough to continue the campaign and whether he actually has a plan he can elucidate.

I also want to listne to AOC tonight. She only gets one minute to speak. Whenever I have heard AOC speak in the past, she never made any sense, so I’m wondering if that will still be the case tonight. When I listen to her speak all I can think of to describe it is “incoherent”.

I bet Michelle Obama is really hoping Joe China wins. That way all the inconvenient investigations into the traitorous activities of her husband’s administration in trying to overthrow the Tump administration will be swept under the rug. If Trump wins, it will be much more stressful for Michelle and Barack.

And as you listen to the Democrats make their speeches keep in mind that when they deign to speak for all Americans, they are really on speaking about their fellow socialists. Remember: American values to the Democrats means Socialist values. When they say they want to stand up for American values they are really standing up for Socialist values.

If Trump doesn’t win by a landslide in November, then there is something seriously wrong with a large portion of the human race living in the United States. The only *logical* choice is Trump.

Alan Chapprll
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 19, 2020 8:11 am

Tom you have a talent to see the future

a happy little debunker
August 17, 2020 6:10 pm

The main difference is that the Australian labor party played with pretty much a straight bat – whereas the Democrats are also playing with race violence, fraudulent electoral practices after having hamstrung local populations with their pandemic response that has cost livelihoods and lives, whilst damaging the economic prosperity of an entire nation.
To be sure Labor wouldn’t quantify any question of cost – but they did not embark on a multi-prong assault on voter’s sensibilities.

Reply to  a happy little debunker
August 17, 2020 7:37 pm

There has never been anything straight about the Labor party since its inception.

Reply to  a happy little debunker
August 17, 2020 8:07 pm

If the United States had the demography of Australia, the average starting wage would be $16. Why? Try to immigrate there. Working class white people in the U.S. get that. That’s why Trump will win the highest percentage of that demo that any Republican has ever won. That’s why he did do so the last time around. The problem is working class white people are becoming a smaller and smaller share of the population every year. That’s intended and it’s the result of specific public policies, not natural.

Ron Long
August 17, 2020 6:14 pm

Joe Biden is doing the “Weekend at Bernies” routine, so somebody else is pushing ideas. Today Kalifornia Gov. Newsom admitted that Green Energy has failed Kalifornia, saying that lack of wind and some pesky clouds prevented serving electrical needs at times of peak demand. So, if you need 100% conventional backup, either you pay double or you forget that green nonsense. It seems like we might be making some progress here.

Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  Ron Long
August 18, 2020 4:41 am

Ventriloquist Jeff Dunham has a DUMMIE that looks and acts like JOE BIDEN. Rumor has it that was the reason for the Bosley PLUGS procedure. Maybe Dunham can modify his routine and be more political.

Reply to  Carbon Bigfoot
August 18, 2020 6:23 am

Saw Jeff in Vegas years ago and he made a point not to go too political with his comedy.

I thought it was a classy move to call out the elephant in the room as all of the late night shows seem to be able to do is Trump this, Trump that.

I use to enjoy watching The Late Show With David Letterman and even James Corden’s Late Late Show but now it’s just so left it is uncomfortable to watch and I now simply don’t watch or fast forward the monologue.

Reply to  Peter
August 18, 2020 7:04 am

Even the interviews, once they get past whatever the actor is involved with now, have started to become a two sided whine about how bad Trump is.

Iain Russell
August 17, 2020 6:27 pm

I don’t disagree with The Happy Wee Chappy (above) at all, but the ALP also pushed the ‘fairness’ lie. Taxing Dear Aunt Em and Old Uncle John for being prudent and wise squirrels didn’t endear them to the non-bureaucrat, non PS pension electorate. Particularly when it came from a posse of ‘richies’ at the top of the BoBo Tree which is the ALP. Bull Shitten and Plibbers are much wealthier than I could even dream of becoming but their wealth is taxpayer guaranteed. Mine was earned in the oil and gas industry. No way, Jose!

August 17, 2020 6:28 pm

“you cannot win an election by campaigning for higher taxes and the destruction of entire industries”

You can when you have mail-in voting and a massive electoral fraud machine with decades of experience.

In fact, it’s quite easy. Near-trivial even.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  MarkG
August 17, 2020 7:26 pm

You can when you have the looney, emotional left, and BLMorons who think white people should just give up their homes. To them more taxes (presumably only on the rich and middle class) means more free stuff for them.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 18, 2020 2:38 am

Jeff Alberts

But according to the Democrats, all Trump has to do is pay Putin $100k and he’s home free.

August 17, 2020 6:37 pm

Liberals are always convinced that:

This time it will work.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2020 7:58 pm

Heh, reminds me of the old Rocky&Bullwinkle cartoons: “This time for sure!”

Sadly, I suspect that Bullwinkle is more intelligent that your average Democrat.

August 17, 2020 6:42 pm

The most interesting poll that I have seen, was the one that found out that when asked how they thought their neighbors were going to vote, 2/3rds said they thought their neighbors would vote for Trump.

This year, more than ever, conservatives are afraid to tell strangers how they really feel.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2020 7:06 pm

interested in that. Link?

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2020 7:09 pm

Around my area, which is mostly hard core leftist, I haven’t seen the usual bumper stickers or yard signs.

My hard core demo☭rat boss hasn’t mentioned Kamala at all or Biden for that matter. It’s all anti-Trump from his mouth.

The hatred of Trump is still around but I don’t see enthusiasm for the dems. If they had a mask in the primary against Biden, it would beat him.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Scissor
August 17, 2020 7:58 pm

I’m up in the Northwest corner of Washington State, less lefty up here than Seattle and its suburbs. I see a lot of republican signs, lots of Trump, lots of Loren Culp (running for Governer), and the like, very few Democrat signs.

There is one house that has a large Culp sign, a smaller Trump sign and a couple others. He also has a carved wooden bear, kind of a caricature, with one hand waving. He put a Trump wig on it.

Right next door is a BLM sign. Someone spray-painted the Trump sign. Wonder who…

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 17, 2020 9:29 pm

Governor, sheesh.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2020 8:37 pm

This poll gives evidence that Trump will win.

When asked whether they are “comfortable with your relatives, friends, and coworkers knowing how you vote?” only 29 percent of Trump supporters responded in the affirmative, while 82 percent of Biden voters said they were.

So we have the shy Trump voters who will outright lie to pollsters. One of the reasons is that it seems to be actually dangerous to be known as a Trump supporter. examples

Most Americans are distressed with the Antifa and BLM violence. The Democrats tolerate those groups or even embrace them. That will cost the Democrats votes. The only way the Democrats get votes is because of Trump derangement syndrome. There’s no way some people will vote for him, no matter what. The linked article points out that support for Biden is lukewarm. I wonder if that will cause lots of Democrats to stay home on election day.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  commieBob
August 17, 2020 9:40 pm

There’s a reason we have voting booths and privacy.

It used to be a very private thing. Relatives, friends, and coworkers didn’t expect to know how you voted and rarely did.

Reply to  commieBob
August 18, 2020 7:08 am

Mail-in voting helps the Democrats get around the lack of enthusiasm thing.

I read an editorial trying to debunk the “myth” of the shy Trump voter. His main point was that Trump wasn’t shy, so why should his voters be.

Reply to  MarkW
August 18, 2020 5:25 pm

I’m glad I didn’t have a mouth full of coffee when I read that.

Reply to  MarkW
August 19, 2020 8:29 am

Colorado will never be anything but blue because of mail in voting and registering you to vote when getting your drivers license or state ID. Voting should take effort and you should have to dip you thumb in ink once you do. Ink that doesn’t wash off for weeks.

Reply to  MarkW
August 17, 2020 9:20 pm

Lots of boat parades as well.
I see many boats with trump flags.
No Biden flags.

Reply to  Waza
August 18, 2020 7:09 am

During the Dragon capsule splash down, a privately owned boat managed to speed by with a Trump flag flying.

Reply to  Waza
August 18, 2020 4:13 pm

According to female Secret Service agents, Biden parades his little dinghy. See the picture here:

August 17, 2020 6:52 pm

The ALP leader Bill Shorten was asked on several occasions to nominate the cost of his environmental policies.
This was after economist Dr. Brian Fisher had calculated that Labor’s policies would cost at least A$ 264 billion in lost GNP by 2030 and as much as A$ 542 billion depending on the rules for big companies to buy overseas carbon credits to meet their targets.
Dr. Fisher also modelled negative consequences for all scenarios of the ALP policies with a minimum 3% reduction in real wages and 167,000 fewer jobs in 2030 as against what would have otherwise existed.
It is fair to say that Shorten struggled thereafter as he had no modelling to contest Dr Fisher.
The mantra in response that the ‘cost of inaction’ would be greater than the action proposed by Labor was not convincing.
In the Presidential election, Biden/ Harris propose to spend US $ 2 trillion in 4 years on a broad range of issues from increased infrastructure to payouts to the IPCC and donations to its Green Fund when the US rejoins that body.
However there is no accurate economic information on the cost/ benefit analysis for the American public in a scaled down Green New Deal.
In truth the task is open ended as to time and cost.

Reply to  Herbert
August 18, 2020 8:51 am

Net 2% of GDP and 500,000 jobs lost. From memory a couple of days ago. An article about the creator of the first integrated economic model. Name and link escapes me. I’ll post link if I can find it in my history.

August 17, 2020 7:44 pm

I would not be at all surprised if Nov 2020 sees the lowest voter turnout of all time.

And it wouldn’t be because of the WuFlu.

Reply to  Mr.
August 18, 2020 7:11 am

I hear that the dead are eager to vote. More than once if need be.

August 17, 2020 8:00 pm

In our neighborhood, there are several houses that display signs of stupidity (aka Biden2020), but they’re outnumbered by Trump ones. 😀

Walter Sobchak
August 17, 2020 8:20 pm

I thinks Trumps best shot is hanging the urban riots around Joe’s neck. It shouldn’t be hard.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
August 18, 2020 12:37 am

Just wait, our Donald is ,very quiet on the big subject, Hunter, millions from where? Drug abuse, etc., Just imagine my dad is now the President this will not be a$75,000 a night at a strip joint but a million!

Craig from Oz
August 17, 2020 8:23 pm

Disagree with the core premises – ‘Unlosable Election’.

Who is actually saying this? The MSM maybe?

The MSM are desperate to get rid of Trump because when he is not ignoring them, he is trolling them. Remember the media honestly believe it is their right to be the ones who control the truth because only they are smart enough to be able to filter out what the smelly masses don’t need to know.

They are also very self destructive in their moral superiority. By bullying anyone who they disagree with into silence they create a social circle where they only here what they have first approved. The problem is that bullying someone into silence doesn’t make the opposing view go away, it just means they can no longer here it. Hence when push comes to shove at voting times the Left and the MSM are usually completely gob smacked when the masses disagree with them.

August 17, 2020 8:31 pm

I just watched the DNC convention opening night on CSPAN which is in the form of a periscope video with live comments. The comments were OWNED by MAGA. It was a delicious gift. All their lies revealed in real time as they spouted them. It’s a must see! 2 hrs 14 mins

August 17, 2020 9:47 pm

In rules for radicals by Saul alinsky.
It is highlighted to create a common enemy but not go after mum and dad.
The democrats are going after mum and dad.
I don’t think it is just mum and dad’s tax.
I think mum and dad’s are worried about losing many things.
Freedom to own a boat, go fishing, go hunting, go on holiday or just having a beer with mates without being told what to do or made to feel guilty.

Rod Evans
August 18, 2020 12:22 am

” Vote for me, I will make your life hell”
That never was a winning slogan, but that is exactly what the Dems are offering up to the American voters. Even worse than that, the man they are putting forward as their pick for President, Joe hairy legs Biden does not understand the most basic questions and can provide no intelligent response to any challenge.
His absence from the media circuit is the only positive dimension yet offered up by the Democrat team?
Higher taxes, lower freedoms, higher energy bills, forced business closures, lower life expectancy, reduced security, and all you have to do to get that is vote for Joe Biden, Democrat.
Did I mention planned blackouts?

August 18, 2020 12:38 am

50:50 on this.

You have to take in consideration that Shorten is an insufferable prat! A former union bully boy that no one actually liked.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 18, 2020 12:43 am

Don’t alert your opponent to the mistakes he or she makes.

Vincent Causey
August 18, 2020 12:53 am

As true as this all is, I think the real clincher for Trump will be “law and order”.

High Treason
August 18, 2020 1:40 am

The point of mail in voting is that it can be fraudulent. With fake polls around, this legitimises a fraudulent election.
Make no mistake, this is the most important election in our lifetime. If the Democrats steak this election, it is the end of the USA and the end of Australia. Rest assured, Democrats will allow China to take us over. It will not be pretty.
The green new deal will destroy the US.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  High Treason
August 18, 2020 1:28 pm

“Rest assured, Democrats will allow China to take us over. It will not be pretty.”

That’s almost a sure bet. The Democrats will not stand up to the Chicoms. They never stand up to dictators. Not in the modern era anyway.

Besides, if Joe China is elected, the Chicoms already have enough blackmail material on him to make him do things their way.

Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 18, 2020 1:51 am

Now I’m only parler (@haseler) I’m getting inundated with really great pro-Trump material which is making me laugh (and driving my kids nuts when I show them it).

So I read this hoping for someone to say why anyone would vote Biden (you can’t seriously put such a weak character up for president?)

So I searched to find the other side and found this: “Top 10 Reasons why you should vote Biden”

1. He was Vice President during when Obama was in office
Already being involved in the White House, Biden is a clear candidate as he involved when the country wasn’t in mass hysteria.
2. Biden supports POC and JLGBT+ rights
Both Obama and Joe Biden support the BIPOC JLGBT+ communities. Who is the only US president that made gay marriage legal?
3. Biden is a friend of Journalists, and does interviews regularly
He is the only candidate that does interview regularly, and is not incredibly rude to journalists and those he is talking with.
4. He wouldn’t have let COVID-19 in the United States turn political
If he were president instead of Trump, he would have easily made it so the COVID-19 virus wasn’t a political issue. Unlike Trump, Joe Biden wouldn’t have slandered the World Health Organization among other great scientists, and would have made masks mandatory. Thus making the coronavirus a non-issue.
5. He likes kids
As a president, you should care about how your presidency affects the future. We have to fix the world’s problems for our future generations. Joe Biden is the perfect person to sniff out those problems.
6. He supports peaceful negotiations
In 1991, Biden, along with a majority of Senate Democrats, voted against the use of force to drive Iraq out of Kuwait.
7. He’s a cool guy
Joe Biden is someone you’d love to be around. He’s a gearhead, he loves baseball and football, he loves dogs, he loves ice cream, and he is very smart!
8. He was a senator before he even could
He was elected to the Senate at age 29, but turned the constitutionally required age of 30 before being sworn in.
10. He was Vice President during when Obama was in office
Already being involved in the White House, Biden is a clear candidate …

OK, now I’m seriously confused!!

Is this a Democrat with nothing better to say than that appalling dross or a Republican taking the micky?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 18, 2020 1:37 pm

“He [Biden] is the only candidate that does interview regularly, and is not incredibly rude to journalists”


It’s the journalists who are incredibly rude. Trump just gives it back to them in spades.

Biden isn’t giving many interviews nowadays. And he tends to get rather aggressive with reporters who ask him embarrasing questions, like whether he is mentally fit to serve as president. Biden tends to fly off the handle in such situations. Probably not the best demeanor for a president to have.

Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 18, 2020 2:15 am

OK – after weeks of hearing nothing but pro-Trump material, I finally decided I had to go look at Biden’s “campaign” page.

So … literally the first I’ve seen of his campaign.

What struck me first is that there is no messsage (except donate to me). This guy doesn’t stand for anything in particular – he just wants your vote … and money … although I think money is by far the most important thing.

When eventually I did find his “policies”, it was just a mish mash of disjointed causes. It was clearly every woke campaign under the sun in what I call “Alphabet politics” – in the sense that a whole lot of totally unrelated & often conflicting campaigns bandwagons are being ridden, in the hope that if he says he’ll do what they all want, they’ll bring in enough support to get him elected.

OK … so I decide to look at Trump to be fair.

First off Trump is clearly “standing for America” … so he has a clear message. And I have to admit I didn’t watch the Biden video because it … as my daughter would say “looked creepy”.

All I see on Trump is “promises made, Promises kept” … but I got fed up of the site because some annoying window kept asking for money and I couldn’t find any list of promises if he got in the next time. OK went back, and whilst I can’t see anything about what Trump is promising to do in the next term, the promises kept looked fairly inclusive and related to conventional areas of government that need addressing (not campaigns like Biden).

On the other hand – I realise speaking from a UK perspective, we are used to voting in a government with a mandate to govern – which isn’t what the US presidential election is about.

… maybe if I went through a bit of brainwashing from the US media, I might get a better understanding of why anyone would vote Biden?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 18, 2020 6:50 am

TDS is a serious problem in the U.S. Some people hate the man so much they ignore everything else. Fortunately Biden’s, or rather the Democrat Party’s, selection of Harris as VP candidate has sealed their doom.

Patrick MJD
August 18, 2020 3:06 am

I know I should know this, but hey, I am busy with my own carp. When is the US election? British/New Zealander here living in Australia. I would like to see Trump win.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Patrick MJD
August 18, 2020 3:48 am

Nov 3 is election day (always the first Tuesday in November in an election year, every fourth year)

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Rich Davis
August 18, 2020 5:26 am

Actually, Nov 3 is the day Electors are chosen. Dec 14th is the real election day, when the Electors met in their home state and cast their ballots, one for President and one for Vice President. Those ballots are sent under seal the the President of the Senate who reads the results to a joint session of Congress in early Jan. That is when the election becomes official.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom in Florida
August 18, 2020 1:43 pm

” Actually, Nov 3 is the day Electors are chosen. Dec 14th is the real election day, when the Electors met in their home state and cast their ballots, one for President and one for Vice President”

I hope they can get all the mail-out ballots counted by Dec. 14.

The Republicans should be flooding all Red States with lawyers to make sure the Mail-out vote goes legally. You can bet the Democrats are flooding the States with lawyers to try to steal the election.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 18, 2020 3:53 pm

In Florida, each County Supervisor of Elections MUST report the certified results to the Florida Secretary of State by the 4th day after a general election unless a recount is in order. The results of any recount MUST be certified to the Florida Secretary of State by the 9th day after the general election.
This means the latest the election results can be certified and submitted to the Florida Secretary of State is Nov 12th.
This is State Law and cannot be changed by the judiciary (as they tried to do in 2000) or by decree of the Governor.

Reply to  Rich Davis
August 18, 2020 6:09 am

No, that’s Melbourne Cup day. The US presidential election is usually on Melbourne Cup day, but not always. US presidential election is on the first Tuesday after Nov 1st. So once every 28 years on average, the US presidential election is a week later than the Melbourne Cup.

Reply to  Rich Davis
August 18, 2020 7:18 am

First Tuesday after the first Monday. I’m guessing they did this to avoid having the election on Nov. 1, which on the Catholic/Anglican calendar is All Saints Day. That day used to be a bigger deal than it is today.

Tom in Florida
August 18, 2020 5:30 am

Make no mistake about it. This election is more about judicial appointments than anything else. If Trump wins he will continue to appoint conservative judges to the federal system and will probably have at least one more appointment to the Supreme Court. These lifetime appointments change the course of our Country for many years after any election. Liberals are desperate because they see their ability to legislate from the bench slipping away with each new Trump appointee.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
August 18, 2020 7:20 am

Several of the most liberal members of the Supreme Court are hanging on by a thread.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  MarkW
August 18, 2020 7:38 am

I think Nosferatu has less than a thread left.

August 18, 2020 5:43 am

All these miraculous ‘Green Deals’ are chimeras’. They promise revolution but will deliver nothing of real value, only huge spending in exchange for higher energy prices and significant infrastructure disadvantages. At a stroke entire industries would be rendered economically uncompetitive in global markets.

Sensible people need to carry this vote, otherwise a financially strong US can pack its bags and kiss their a*** goodbye.

August 18, 2020 6:17 am

Democrats Clean Energy Climate Policy follows Australia and Germany’s Failed Climate Plan – Higher energy costs for Americans are eminent along with worldwide ecological degradation and human right abuses mining for wind, solar, and EV materials. The Democrats’ Climate Policy is cloning the disastrous efforts first tried by Australia and Germany that has produced the highest costs of electricity in the world for residents. With America representing a minuscule five percent of the world’s population the Democrats remain oblivious to the United Nations warnings about the negative consequences of the shift toward exotic minerals and metals for wind, solar, and EV batteries, which includes worldwide ecological degradation and atrocious human rights abuses.

August 18, 2020 8:16 am

Both of them look like they have hydrocephalus.

Climate believer
August 18, 2020 11:01 am

Watching from afar I’d say the silent majority has this in the bag. The polls and the media can be counted on to tell you the exact opposite of what will happen (they do it everyday), and then the Dems will explode in utter amazement at their loss just like UK Labour, and the ALP.

……says bloke on the internet.

William Astley
Reply to  Climate believer
August 18, 2020 12:47 pm

I do not have a prediction. I have a spooky coincidence which will be more interesting if something odd happens at the Dem. Convention.

There were two science fiction books published about 15 years ago, wartech books, that had a plot scenario which is up to this point… exactly what we are now experiencing. The two books started with the same plot scenario and then take two very different paths.

Both books start with a worldwide dangerous virus outbreak, that started in China… and spread around the world. Oddly in both books, China started the virus attack, by releasing a virus in China. In the first book, which I did not read, China released a virus in their country, to defeat the US and stop all wars.

It was speculated that the first book was written by a Chinese think tank as it was over the top pro-China and anti-US. The second it was speculated was written by an American think tank. The books had technical detail, if I remember correctly both had a US currency collapse and a China/US economic war, in addition to the use of advanced virus technology that is now possible.

I read the second book, after reading an interesting article that discussed the virus technology and the issues raised in both books. There is an outbreak of internal fighting in China, in the second book, and that is where advanced technology virus attacks are used.

In the second book, the Republicans are in power and the Democrats are acting strangely and the action happens just before the US election. In the second book, there is a strange incident with the Democrat presidential candidate, that is noticed by the public and senior US intelligence.

What is interesting, is the US election does not happen (in the second book) as a right-wing Brazilian leader, discovers that an anti-malaria drug stops the virus. That starts so much internal fighting in the US, that the election is postponed…..

And then something happens which results in the cancelation of the US election.

Brazil is using HCQ to both treat covid patients and as a covid prophylactic. So, if HCQ/AQZ works and that information gets out… it is theoretically possible that the US election could be postponed.

Climate believer
Reply to  William Astley
August 18, 2020 1:44 pm

That is pretty spooky….. have you got the titles of those books?

William Astley
Reply to  Climate believer
August 18, 2020 4:11 pm

I do not. However, it would be possible to find the article that discussed the two books.

At the time I read the second book, I knew nothing about viruses or HCQ and hence thought that part of the plot (a malaria drug that stops the virus ) was plot manipulation to move the plot along.

The details concerning the US currency collapse were weak, in both books. This is something 20 years ago, some thought would be inevitable.

The second book also alluded to a population deficiency which when corrected, stopped the virus from spreading. The second book did not however explain what the heck the deficiency was which I found annoying.

Most of the virus fighting in the second book happens in China due to fractional fighting. I also thought that was plot manipulation, as China always seemed to speak with one voice, twenty years ago. No infighting, evidence.

These recent high profile criticisms of Xi are signs the Xi ‘team’ is started to get push back. Naturally it seems all powerful teams cheat and steal when there are no checks and balances.

Xi is shooting the messenger, a retired, long term communist believer, for speaking up for the people. That kind of mistake makes Xi look a despot, blind to reality, a leader with greedy corrupt ‘friends’.

Retired Chinese professor Cai Xia, formerly a political science teacher at the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) Central Party School, was “disciplined” for her criticism of President Xi Jinping by calling him a “mob boss

Tom Abbott
August 18, 2020 12:50 pm

From the article: “He [Biden] served in an Obama administration that oversaw a historic surge in American oil and gas production, as shale went mainstream.”

The implication being that the shale revolution was directed by the Obama-Biden White House.

The truth is Biden and Obama did everything in their power to stifle the fossil fuel industry.

Phil Jourdan
August 18, 2020 4:55 pm

I would not say he is copying their loss except maybe he is. He is a known plagiarizer, but I doubt he remembers what happened in 2019

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