NPR fires weatherman for comparing Seattle riots to Germany in 1938 on his personal blog

We didn’t post about this as it was happening a couple of days ago, but have been watching. It’s time to let the story out.

From The Post Millenial

A weatherman for a NPR has been taken off the air for a personal blog post that shows in vivid detail the destruction two months of incessant rioting and protests have wrecked on Seattle.
A weatherman for a NPR has been taken off the air for a personal blog post that shows in vivid detail the destruction two months of incessant rioting and protests have wrecked on Seattle.

Ari Hoffman Seattle, WA August 7, 2020 11:11 AM 5 mins reading

A weatherman for a National Public Radio (NPR) affiliate in Tacoma has been taken off the air for a personal blog post that shows in vivid detail the destruction two months of incessant rioting and protests have wrecked on Seattle.

The NPR affiliate took issue with Cliff Mass’ comparison of the destruction in Seattle to Kristallnacht, the “Night of Broken Glass” in 1938, where rioters destroyed Jewish owned stores, buildings, and houses of worship while German authorities looked on without intervention and even encouraged the violence.

This is the passage that got him into trouble:

Mass is a University of Washington meteorologist who up until now has been reporting on the weather for KNKX Tacoma. On Wednesday, Mass posted this article to his personal blog describing a recent trip to downtown Seattle and the devastation he saw there, with pictures.

“Take a walk around downtown Seattle. You will be shocked by a shuttered, dystopian city and made angry by the inaction and ineptness of its political leadership. It is simply beyond words.”

Mass continued “Block after block of boarded up stores, restaurants, and other buildings. A city in lockdown and afraid.” Mass wrote what many Seattle residents have noticed but do not express out loud for fear of being targeted for speaking the wrong narrative.

“A boarded up central core of a major U.S. city was being left to the homeless, drug dealers, and security guards. Even the most notorious, crime-ridden corner of the city had no police. The streets of the city had become a fearful abandoned place.”

In his comparison of recent events to Kristallnacht in 1938, Mass highlighted the similarities between the events: “Violent individuals and groups have hidden within protest groups, attempting to destroy businesses both to deliver a political message of fear and to loot their contents. Dozens of police have been seriously injured by bottles and fireworks, or partially blinded by lasers. Even in my neighborhood, graffiti calling for the killing of police have been sprayed at a prominent location. No city can remain healthy if such anti-social activities are allowed to continue unchecked.”

Mass also referenced the vandalism at the homes of city council members, the mayor and an attempted attack on the Seattle Police Chief. “There has also been efforts to intimidate our city’s political and civil leadership by taking rancorous protests to their homes, bringing fear to family and neighbors.”

Reaction came swiftly from the left on social media accusing Mass of anti-Semitism and exaggerating what was going on in riots in Seattle. This is what led to KNKX issuing a public statement and removing Mass and his weather report from the air.

They wrote: “At KNKX, we value high-quality, factual information in our news programming and we aim to present an array of voices that reflect our region.

Read the full article here.

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Dr Peter Watson
August 9, 2020 6:09 am

NPR – Nazi Propaganda Radio – seems perfectly logical.

Big Al
Reply to  Dr Peter Watson
August 9, 2020 6:58 am

The “N” stands for Nazi. NWO. The NWO worship Satin. They figured, correctly , Nazi World Order be harder to sell. Did Nazi’s lose WAR or MOVE to America ? Dead President Bush BIG fan of NWO. Believe them when they show you who they are.

Reply to  Big Al
August 9, 2020 8:00 am

Let ‘em eat Red Velvet!

James Clarke
Reply to  Big Al
August 9, 2020 7:56 pm

Whenever the left is accused of being like Nazis, the left proceeds to try and prove them right!

Joel Snider
Reply to  James Clarke
August 10, 2020 9:52 am

I don’t think you have to use the word ‘try’.

Doug Huffman
Reply to  Dr Peter Watson
August 9, 2020 7:16 am

I have been comparing and analogizing the situations to Kristallnacht for two months now. And anticipating Nacht der langen Messer sooner than later.

Read George Santayana.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Doug Huffman
August 9, 2020 10:23 pm

The modern incarnation of the Night of the Long Knives would be Joe’s VP turned-President (after he is ousted in a 25th Amendment move) then turning on the violent BLM/Antifa elements that supported the Democrats and eliminating them, as they would be no-longer-useful and their anarchy no longer needed.

The Night of the Long Knives was Hitler, Goering, and Himmler turning on their violent and barely controllable paramilitary SA. Hitler needed to show he was in control so the rest of legitimate police force and military would fall behind him as he eliminated a violent faction.

President [black female] will use the out-of-control rioting from Antifa as the reason to round-up the Antifa leaders and lock them away awaiting trials. It will be the move to consolidate and repair the Democrats image as supporting lawlessness they have gained so far. Of course the extra-judicial k1llings done in 1934 would not be done today.

The Antifa idiots just don’t realize that once (if) the Democrats objective of Power is achieved, they become a liability to the Democrats.

Bob boder
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 10, 2020 10:35 am

“The Antifa idiots just don’t realize that once (if) the Democrats objective of Power is achieved, they become a liability to the Democrats.”

Same can be said for all the loud mouth Hollywood types. possibly the only good thing that might come out of the nightmare that is coming.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 10, 2020 11:23 am

It’s also possible they may keep them around – sorta like all those Islamic radicals that ‘mainstream doesn’t support’ but you better follow our doctrine or those bad actors will blow up your cities.

These are methods that they use – these are the only methods that work for them.
I can’t see them giving up this tool of coercion.

Reply to  Dr Peter Watson
August 9, 2020 8:58 am

Just one question: Where are the idiots objecting so vehemently to Mass’s article getting “anti-Semitism” out of this?

Is it his reference to the Nazis destroying properties and businesses owned by the Jewish community?

Okay, who are the Nazis today, who hide behind words that reflect their refusal to accept reality?

Aren’t they co-conspirators in something like this?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Sara
August 9, 2020 2:41 pm

“Just one question: Where are the idiots objecting so vehemently to Mass’s article getting “anti-Semitism” out of this?”

Since Dr Mass is Jewish, they don’t have an argument.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 9, 2020 6:24 pm

There are anti-Semitic Jews. Karl Marx, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein for a few examples. Of course they are all leftists.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
August 10, 2020 9:21 am

In the context of this article, no, they don’t have an argument.

paul courtney
Reply to  Sara
August 10, 2020 11:32 am

Sara: If a bunch of privileged white numb-nutters can protest “racism”, then a bunch of gentiles can get anti-semitism out of a jewish guy comparing mobs of today to nazi mobs of the past.
OOOh , just thought of another good one- if ClisSci’s can get temp reading from two thousand year old trees, then…..
The vanguard of the intellectual left may be smart enough to rise above name-calling, but we haven’t seen it yet.

Reply to  Sara
August 10, 2020 5:26 pm

I’m afraid comparing any violence or atrocity with any act of Nazi repression of Jews is anti-Semitism.

Reply to  Observer
August 11, 2020 7:31 am

So, the jew haters burn and loot and pointing out the jew haters burning and looting is antisemitic. Okey dokey then. And just to be clear, the fascists in Black Lies Matter and antifa are jew haters. Just ask them.

Phil Rae
August 9, 2020 6:18 am

The left have been working for years to take Cliff Mass down…….and now it looks like they have succeeded via the “woke” card!

This is yet another shocking example of cancel culture at work! Time to speak out against this nonsense LOUDLY and start doing something to prevent it. Peter Ridd is still fighting in the courts of Australia against similar treatment at JCU.

Reply to  Phil Rae
August 9, 2020 8:13 am

And NPR just substantiated (and fortified) the analogy to 1930 Germany. Ironic.

Reply to  Phil Rae
August 9, 2020 8:29 am

Rhil Rae is exactly right. The commentary about “riots” is not the real issue. The best that can be said for critics is that the commentary is a “last straw” on a year’s-long accumulation of offenses. But NPR review of prior complaints found those complaints (a) focused on the blog, not the NPR radio show (b) the blog itself did not benefit from NPR’s show but from Mass’s own academic reputation and (c) were at bottom orchestrated by climate activists such as, and did not represent the general listening audience.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Phil Rae
August 11, 2020 10:43 am

Considering the NPR recieves Federal Funds (which is a story for another day) Then Cliff should have a 1st amendment case on his hands. A private employer can fire me because he doesn’t like the way I part my hair or that I shave it bald but the government has to contend with that pesky Bill of Rights.

August 9, 2020 6:19 am

Two good sources covering the mob violence in Portland and Seattle.

Reply to  icisil
August 9, 2020 6:44 am

MrAndyNgo’s twitter feed is depressing. If 1% of his stuff is real that is sick.

I have not followed Portland.

Reply to  Derg
August 9, 2020 7:03 am

I thought that Portland’s mayor had finally woke. It appears not.

This is being allowed to occur and is even encouraged. Cliff Mass is absolutely correct.

Reply to  Scissor
August 9, 2020 3:28 pm

He blamed it all on Trump. He had nothing to do with it, despite the published article that he went out amongst the thugs and communed with them and even held a “listening session”, but then later on, got upset because the rioters tried to burn down the police station. That “burn it down’ part is all Trump’s fault. He had nothing to do with. No, really, nothing….

Reply to  Sara
August 9, 2020 9:48 pm

…and Trump, living just next door, did! Such an obvious connection!

Reply to  Derg
August 9, 2020 9:52 am

There is a daily report from the Portland Police here: Still riots every night without end.

Reply to  shrnfr
August 9, 2020 11:24 am

I keep being told that it’s not happening, it only happens a little, and when it does it’s right-wing agitators

Reply to  TonyG
August 9, 2020 1:42 pm

I keep being told that it’s not happening, it only happens a little, and when it does it’s right-wing agitators/”

Yep. Just like it was the Evil Joos! who burned down the Reichstag.

Phil Rae
August 9, 2020 6:20 am

The left have been working for years to take Cliff Mass down…….and now it looks like they have succeeded via the “woke” card!

This is yet another shocking example of cancel culture at work! Time to speak out against this nonsense LOUDLY and start doing something to prevent it. Peter Ridd is still fighting in the courts of Australia against similar treatment at JCU.

August 9, 2020 6:22 am

We live in dangerous times.
How can anyone sane call that paragraph anti-semetic ?

Reply to  Sparko
August 9, 2020 6:32 am

I am assuming you realize the left has a far different thought process….That is clearly anti-semtic.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Derg
August 9, 2020 8:11 am

Thought process implies that they are thinking. As Orwell explained in 1984, their object is to duckspeak goodthink.

duckspeak — Automatic, vocal support of political orthodoxies

goodthink — A synonym for “political orthodoxy” and “a politically orthodox thought” as defined by the Party

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
August 9, 2020 8:43 am

“1984” was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not a how to manual, “Totalitarianism For Dummies.””

One has to assume “Animal Farm” and “1984” are no longer required reading in school, as they were in the good old Cold War days when I went to school.

John VC
Reply to  Severian
August 9, 2020 10:24 am

reading anything is no longer a requirement for HS graduation

Reply to  Severian
August 10, 2020 10:41 am

Animal Farm is no longer required; 1984 is. My daughter is two years removed form high school and it was required for her.

Unfortunately they talked about it solely from a dystopian aspect, failing to connect it to modern movements. Wouldn’t have been politically correct to do the latter.

Reply to  Derg
August 9, 2020 12:37 pm

Apparently Cliff Mass is Jewish ???. Can’t confirm, but if true, that just makes it worst

August 9, 2020 6:25 am

He was wrong, in that in 1938 the thugs were part and parcel of the Nazi regime. What is happening now is more like 8-10 years earlier, with BLM and Antifa playing the part of the Brownshirts with some supportive local authorities, and the national authorities the hapless Wiemar Republic.

Patrick Hartman
Reply to  Tregonsee
August 9, 2020 8:23 am

I don’t think many people today know what the Brownshirts were and what happened to them when Hitler had no use for them anymore. BLM and Antifa may find out first hand.

Reply to  Patrick Hartman
August 9, 2020 3:30 pm

Well, it wasn’t that he did not have any use for them. The problem was the Brownshirt organization wanted more power. Hitler did like Stalin and Mao (and Ho Chi Mihn, IMHO). He got rid of the people who helped him get power because they wanted a bigger share of it. Those long journeys. The people who finish the journey were not the people who started it.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tregonsee
August 9, 2020 3:14 pm

He said it was similar, not exactly the same. He wasn’t wrong.

Bob Meyer
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 10, 2020 12:09 am

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it rhymes”

Peter Morris
August 9, 2020 6:25 am

Poor fool.

He’s already bent the knee and attempted to apologize.

He doesn’t realize the cause of the riots and his assessment of “weak leadership” are one and the same.

His surprise at the way he’s being treated by “his own” will continue.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Peter Morris
August 9, 2020 11:57 am

He kept quiet when his colleagues came for the climate skeptics, for he was not a skeptic.
Now they come for him.

Sad that an intelligent man had to wait almost 7 decades of his life to realize he was skeptic of the Leftist ideological garbage. No doubt he was a part of it in the early 70’s.

August 9, 2020 6:29 am

A pretty dumb comment. Kristalnacht was targeted attacks against a specific group, what happened in Seattle was random anarchic mayhem, very often against the property and businesses of the very black people they pretend to be fight for.

Dodgy Geezer
Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 6:39 am

I wonder whether any Aryan shops were broken into and looted on Kristalnacht. By mistake, of course…

Robert Austin
Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 7:25 am

You can argue as to how apt the analogy is but it was definitely not a dumb comment. One might find more analagous events than Kristalnacht, but Kristalnacht has a ring to it that conjures up images in the minds of many even half educated in history.

mike macray
Reply to  Robert Austin
August 9, 2020 3:08 pm

Well said Robert Austin

Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 7:46 am

Antifa targets police and their headquarters, especially, among other groups. Being that most of them are stupid, they make stupid mistakes. Their targeting is not random, however.

Reply to  Scissor
August 9, 2020 9:55 pm

Antifa has been found to be associated with Syrian Marxists! This world is smaller than any of us imagined!… more dangerous, too!

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 7:54 am

The similarities to K-Night Cliff drew very accurately as it reflects on the terror and complicity and support of gov/city leaders, police standing down, mob violence unchecked. That was clearly his point and that was the way it looked, too.

You, Greg, choosing something that doesn’t fit and wasn’t part of Cliff’s point is also in keeping with the establishment left’s deliberate mischaracterization of what is really going on in the country. K-Night had a lot of that, too! Cliff is on the left, too, BTW and I’m sure he is shocked at the response he’s getting from his own.

Watch for sane Democrats coming out to vote for Trump in November because of this Democrat supported, funded and designed wrecking of America.

Curious George
Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 8:03 am

Greg, this is an attack against a specific system. Read The High Priest Alinsky.

Reply to  Curious George
August 9, 2020 12:29 pm


Tim Gorman
Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 1:55 pm

1. “A pretty dumb comment. Kristalnacht was targeted attacks against a specific group”
2. “very often against the property and businesses of the very black people they pretend to be fight for.”
3. “what happened in Seattle was random anarchic mayhem”

Hmmmm….. Cognitive dissonance anyone?

Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 7:30 pm

The Seattle riots were targeted attacks against two specific groups, capitalists and police. Both the Seattle and Kristallnacht riots were encouraged by legal authorities who did nothing to stop them until, in Seattle’s case, the legal authority in the person of the Mayor, was attacked. Even the Nazis ultimately disbanded the brown shirts since they were not controllable. Are there differences between the two events? Yes, but the differences in my opinion are much smaller than the commonalities. It is easy to try and exploit a scintilla of difference to justify the violent behavior of some Seattle residents and all Seattle political authorities.

James Clarke
Reply to  Greg
August 9, 2020 8:02 pm

Nazis were targeting Jews and The US protesters are targeting Western Civilization. Cliff Mass is not comparing the targets. He is comparing the the targeting, and that comparison is right on target.

August 9, 2020 6:35 am

I just think of it as a democrat campaign rally…..

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Latitude
August 9, 2020 7:59 am

Exactly! I actually think 25% or more of Democrats (the sane ones) will vote for Trump after this Summer of Sinistral Love.

Dodgy Geezer
August 9, 2020 6:36 am

He would have been OK if he had compared Trump to the leader of Germany at that time….

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
August 9, 2020 7:29 am

In today’s America conservative white people have become the Jews. Firing this man is like the Jews being removed from job positions by the Nazis.

August 9, 2020 6:44 am

There is a war going on. We are in the early phases, and there is mostly peace. There is yet freedom and time to prepare for the US November elections which nobody will accept. Be WELL prepared. Be careful financially– in case the dollar collapses as a result of all the trillions spent, have gold, or silver and maybe bitcoin.

In the meantime, we fight as we can. Our weapons are not bricks and bottles, lasers or guns. Our weapon is truth. Our aim is Love–the restoration of tolerance and peace. That is a challenge. We work with the ones who will listen.

And as always, it is most effective to preach to the choir.

Reply to  LadyLifeGrows
August 9, 2020 8:08 am

Told you so – Posted in January 2020:

“To embrace the possibilities of tomorrow we must reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the Apocalypse. They are the heirs of yesterday’s foolish fortune tellers, and they want to see us do badly but we won’t let that happen. They predicted an overpopulation crisis in the 1960s, mass starvation in the 70s, and an end of oil in the 1990s. These alarmists always demand the same thing: absolute power to dominate, transform and control every aspect of our lives.”
— US President Donald Trump, World Economic Forum, Davos, 21 January 2020

I believe this quote will define the Trump Presidency, in much the same way that Franklin Roosevelt trumpeted “A day of infamy” and Winston Churchill extolled “Our finest hour”.

Because we are at war, as surely as Britain was in 1939 and the USA was in 1941. And this war is for our democracies and our freedoms. It is abundantly clear that the global warming/climate change scam was never about the climate – it was always a smokescreen, a false front for a Marxist takeover of our democracies – the end of freedom.

I first published the note (“We are at war”) in January 2020, and it is even more clear now that the war has begun. Our world looks more and more like Germany in the 1930’s – the extreme left is emboldened and is plundering rule of law and human rights.

These rioters have an agenda, they are organized and paid, and they don’t care at all about the environment or the death of George Floyd – that tragedy is just an excuse to launch their assault on democracy.

Like Hitler’s Brownshirts, these Greenshirts are the shock troops of the Marxist Democrats, and this is their tactic to try to steal the election. If they win, it will be the end of America, the end of freedom.

August 9, 2020 9:00 am


I could not agree more. One can agree or disagree with Cliff Mass analogy of events in Seattle and Portland, too. However, it is an opinion worthy to be heard. I look forward to hearing differing points of view. However, the “tolerant left” who claim to be tolerant provide no quarter to anyone who does not tow their ideological thought processes.

Essentially, what Cliff was stating is this sort of mayhem is not justified and you cannot suggest this is in the name of George Floyd. Once the looting, burning, property destruction and violence entered the mix it took on a Kristalnacht-like rampage for what purpose? Nothing that I can see.

The pathetic mayor of Portland was disturbed only when he realized these imagines were playing into the hands of the Trump campaign. Wow! So much for the citizens and businesses of Portland, but then again these useful idiots voted for this leader. Great imagery for a 30-60 second political ad. No wonder new gun ownership has soared recently and police retirements have increased in these cities. I cannot see how this plays into the hands of the hard left with election around the corner.

IMHO, NPR is a disgrace. Another PC organization that has been “woked.” So much for free speech. Watching all this unfold is disgusting and utterly pathetic.

Reply to  LadyLifeGrows
August 9, 2020 11:29 am

the US November elections which nobody will accept.
How true.

August 9, 2020 6:48 am

I see Big Joe stopped tweeting. Is this a cancel culture thing? His Sat Summary was up though so he’s still at his office.

Are customers or others forcing issues?

Meantime I have an idea…

This is a job for Elon Musk.

Tell the protesting kids that a giant rave in prep for a protest in Texas is scheduled.

Disguise a bunch of Musks Silo style rockets ( it can carry 200 or so people) to look like party venues with day glo colors and BLM banners.

After the kids get in lock the door and 5-4-3-2-1 problem solved! 🚀

ULA can do the same!

Also, in Seattle and Oregon, since Boeing didn’t win launch contracts, pay them to offer free rides to mars on the new and improved Supermax to set up a new CHAZ/CHOP colony.

August 9, 2020 6:49 am

As far as I can tell, we’ve had much worse riots. 1967 Detroit for instance.

Reply to  commieBob
August 9, 2020 8:17 am

Has it recovered?

Reply to  Scissor
August 9, 2020 8:47 am

Ummmm. No. None of the cities with major riots in the 60’s or 70’s is what it was before… Decent people and intelligent businesses went elsewhere, small shops and stores and small businesses of all kinds headed for “safer” places…
…and never went back.

Reply to  commieBob
August 9, 2020 3:44 pm

1970 – Kent State University protest turned to riot, someone started shooting
1968 – Chicago, Democrat National Convention and the assassination of Martin Luther King
1892 – Homestead , PA, steelworkers strike turned into a riot
1886 – Haymarket riot near Chicago turned a protest into a riot when someone threw a bomb at the police
1765 – Boston mobs protest the Stamp Act

August 9, 2020 6:57 am

“Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”
– David Horowitz

I’ll bet the NPR thought police still haven’t recognized the irony of their Nazi-like response, to Prof. Mass’s astute complaint about leftists’ Nazi-like behavior.

Reply to  Dave Burton
August 9, 2020 7:47 am

View of self and of others is fundamentally corrupted(transformed heh). It is unsustainable; it can’t last simply because it is a delusion. But great heavens how we suffer as the dream lasts.

August 9, 2020 7:08 am

A much better analogy would be to the Red Guards in China. I have friends and relatives who survived that. The best thing to do was to be somewhere the Red Guards weren’t. Lots of people with connections fled to the hinterland.

As far as I can tell, nobody in China ever wants to undergo that kind of terror ever again.

Dr.Harvey Goldstein
August 9, 2020 7:11 am

Another reason that NPR should NOT be funded with taxpayer dollars.
Its’ left wing biases are stunning. I almost never hear any conservative voices on NPR. I have asked my local station to allow me to offer an alternative point of view on several issues, bu have been denied. As a retired professor of U.S. Constitutional Law, and Civil Liberties, I am saddened that NPR thinks that freedom of speech,only applies to commentators from the left.

Reply to  Dr.Harvey Goldstein
August 9, 2020 8:16 am

Speaking of freedom of speech. A lawsuit has been filed, in Portland of course, demanding that the government provide the “protesters” with protection gear, helmets, gas masks, body armor, etc.
It seems that free speech is impossible if you have to buy your own riot gear.

Reply to  MarkW
August 9, 2020 6:16 pm

Did you read about the 18-y-o antifa guy who got his grandma to buy him a vest to protect him from non-lethal munitions in the riots? He was later filmed throwing some kind of bomb at the federal facility in Portland. 4chan doxed him by finding his grandma’s online review for the vest purchase with a picture of him wearing the vest. He’s looking at a mandatory 5 years minimum.

Reply to  Dr.Harvey Goldstein
August 9, 2020 8:17 am

It has always been the position of the left, that “hate speech” is not covered under free speech doctrines.
Is it their fault that the left defines “hate speech” as any utterance that they disagree with?

David Middleton
August 9, 2020 7:20 am

And exactly why are his comments “anti-semetic”?

Reply to  David Middleton
August 9, 2020 7:54 am

Those poor Jews; the Left is highly schizophrenic now about anti-semitism and some of that Left IS Jews. Ever again.

Justin Burch
Reply to  kim
August 9, 2020 8:15 am

The majority of far left Jews are not practicing a form of Judaism recognizable to mainstream Jews. Then they are shocked and upset when they attend a march for lesbians right and get told their symbols of judaism are triggering Palestinian victims of Jewish oppression and they must hide all signs of being Jews and publicly renounce Israel and Judaism or leave the march. Not everything who claims to be a Jew acts like one is supposed to but accusing someone of antiSemitism if you point that out, is a really great way to silence someone you don’t like. Criticise the action of george Soros who is open and outspoken in his hatred of Jews, and you get that label.

Reply to  Justin Burch
August 9, 2020 11:20 am

Remember: Hitler’s only objection to Marxism was that Marx was a Jew.

Reply to  David Middleton
August 9, 2020 8:19 am

I’ve seen this trope before. Apparently comparing anything to the Nazi’s final solution, diminishes the horror of what happened back then and is therefore anti-semitic.
On the other hand, the socialists don’t really care if the charge is accurate or not, so long as it sticks.

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  David Middleton
August 9, 2020 8:28 am

In Newspeak a word doesn’t mean what it’s definition says, but rather what effect the emotional load of that word carries. Truth is a flexible concept, facts can be used, ignored or modified to fit the need of the moment. Both sides of the deep political divide there in the Disunited States of America use the same tactics against each other.

Jon R
Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
August 10, 2020 11:57 am

This is the quicksand was into which civilization is sinking.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  David Middleton
August 9, 2020 9:10 am

It’s a term used as a convenient vehicle for making unspecified accusations.

Jim Gorman
August 9, 2020 7:27 am

We are quickly approaching a tipping point.

The young have been indoctrinated to believe the U.S. capital economy is not just and needs to be placed under total government control. Many have been educated with worthless degrees that are only applicable to government bureaucratic control of the population.

There is time to turn this around but government officials must make it plain that lawlessness won’t be allowed. If change is warranted the young must be told they need to accomplish it through the ballot box.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
August 9, 2020 7:48 am
Reply to  Jim Gorman
August 9, 2020 8:22 am

Have you seen the New York Times “1619 Project”?
They are pushing the notion that the founding of this country wasn’t 1776, but rather 1619, the year the first slaves were brought to N. America.
According to the NYT, America would be nothing had it not been for the slaves, and that slavery defines every aspect of US history.
Even though it’s been widely criticized as highly inaccurate and misleading, it’s being distributed to school children throughout the city.

Adam Gallon
Reply to  MarkW
August 9, 2020 10:22 am

The US was built upon a foundation of slavery & the ethnic cleansing of the original inhabitants.
Slavery, after a fashion, is still legal with the penal labour system.

Reply to  Adam Gallon
August 9, 2020 11:25 am

B.S. comes in gallons? Who knew?

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 11, 2020 7:34 am


Tim Gorman
Reply to  Adam Gallon
August 9, 2020 2:09 pm


Henry Ford used slaves in his Model T factory?
The Wright Bro’s used slave labor to build their plane?
Cyrus McCormick used slaves to build his tractors?
Edison used slaves to develop his light bulb?

Stronger cultures have always overridden weaker ones. The Romans did it all the time. So did the Greeks and so did the Aztecs. Some took them as slaves, others just assimilated them.

Learn some history.

Reply to  Tim Gorman
August 9, 2020 2:43 pm

Learn history? It’s so much easier to hate everyone your masters tell you to hate.

Reply to  Adam Gallon
August 9, 2020 2:42 pm

It really is amazing how leftists actually seem to believe the lies they teach each other.
While slavery existed in the south, it wasn’t the sole basis for economic growth in the south. In the north where slavery didn’t exist, anyone claiming that slavery was their foundation is extremely lacking in functioning brain cells.
Ethnic cleansing? Really? I guess that explains why there are no native Americans anywhere in the US.

Bob boder
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2020 10:46 am

And the North won the war because it had a much stronger and diverse economy and the larger population. Why? exactly because it was not based on slavery but based on a free market and individual liberty.

Reply to  Adam Gallon
August 9, 2020 3:22 pm

You could substitute horses for slaves, and wolves for the cleansing of original inhabitants, and get an equally wrong answer.

If slaves were that instrumental, Africa would be the most advanced place on Earth, considering they still enslave people.

Reply to  jtom
August 9, 2020 7:57 pm

I’ve read several treatises that made the claim that slavery actually held back the economy of the south.

James Clarke
Reply to  Adam Gallon
August 9, 2020 8:15 pm

The US was built on the radical idea that every person is their own sovereign, only limited by the need to keep chaos and anarchy at bay. That is an idea that was considered crazy at the time, and surprised everyone that it actually worked better than anything ever tried before. The protesters are trying to overthrow that idea and replace it with a system that gives sovereignty to the the socialist state; an idea that is responsible for untold suffering and at least 100 million innocent deaths over the past 100 years.

The US was not founded on slavery. Slavery was abolished because of the idea the US was founded upon.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Adam Gallon
August 10, 2020 2:24 am

Adam Gallon would lose and lose badly in a debate on facts with informed counter points.
His comment was simply a hit and run trolling. No facts, just an accusation without support.
Typical Leftist coward.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
August 10, 2020 7:20 am

I’ve noticed that with a lot of left wingers. They make a single post, then disappear.
The tactic is so common that a name has been invented for them.
They squawk, poop and fly off.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
August 9, 2020 8:35 am

The “young” have been sucked into the cancel culture. The loss of friends and occupations is a strong coercive force.

The young feel powerless to respond and have no grounding in history that would warn them of the suffering from the loss of the liberties they had (past tense…try to get a fair trial in DC as a conservative…or try to get a date on campus as a conservative).

Authoritarians don’t go away. They always have to be vanquished.

Reply to  DocSiders
August 9, 2020 2:44 pm

“The tree of freedom has to be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots”

Thomas Jefferson

Loren C. Wilson
August 9, 2020 7:39 am

How could he be accused of anti-Semitism? He is condemning the attacks in both Seattle and Berlin. Has our population become so stupid that they believe this?

Reply to  Loren C. Wilson
August 9, 2020 8:23 am

Their audience has been trained to believe that conservatives are the ultimate in evil.
Most of them won’t ever think about the contradictions and will believe it and repeat it to others.

August 9, 2020 7:39 am

Note the doublespeak(lie) that is in ‘an array of voices that reflect our region.’

They don’t want a true reflection, rather one which portrays the region differently than it actually is.

This delusionary attitude is unsustainable long term but persuasive short term.

They’ll learn, but oh, the damage meanwhile.

Kevin kilty
August 9, 2020 7:40 am

This is not like 1938, but rather a great deal more like 1932-1933. The SA and SS, which the civil autorities were trying to repress until about the summer of 1932, were “let loose” as they were allowed to gather and run the streets and blame the violence on a much, and I mean much, smaller group of radical opponents — the communists who were about 0.1% the size of the SA and SS.

The SS and SA were mobilised by wacky racial theories, and fabricated histories.They were an easily manipulated, prone to thuggery bunch of badly educated nitwits. Throughout 1932 Germany engaged in one election after another without any resolution of its political problems. There must have been 50 parties involved in some of these elections, and so the vote was very fragmented. Yet the nazis couldn’t win an outright victory. But the fragmentation also meant there was political intrigue everywhere, and most of it quite incompetent, which always seemed to open some void for Hitler to step into. Eventually big business and banks began to back Hitler as they believed he might usher in some political quiet and would be better for the economy. Paul Hindenberg, perhaps the only symbol of sanity was 86 years old and sick of politics.

By sometime in 1933 the various ambitious but imcompetent factions allied in ways that put an end to democracy in Germany — legally. For those who think putting the Democrats in charge temporarily to buy some peace, and who think Republicans could just sweep back into a majority after two years of AOC inspired stupidity and chaos, the history of Germany from January 1932 to January 1934 should make them think otherwise.

Curious George
Reply to  Kevin kilty
August 9, 2020 8:06 am

“an easily manipulated, prone to thuggery bunch of badly educated nitwits.”
Did Germany have American universities that early?

Reply to  Kevin kilty
August 9, 2020 12:40 pm

Very accurate, Kevin. Divide and be conquered. I think your estimate of the number of Communists is a bit low. Remember, the Communists got 13% of the vote in the elections of Fall, 1930, whereas the National Socialists got 18%*. Presumably SA and SS members voted . . . But no metaphor is 100% congruent with reality, let alone the chronology. Some addenda:

(1) By Hitler’s count, there were 34 political parties. The statement is contained in one of his (1930?) speeches: From memory: “…Labor has a party…the Catholics have a party…the Wurtembergers have a party…and so forth, and so forth, and so forth. Four and thirty parties in one country…”

(2) Hindenberg and his son were implicated and indicted in a matter involving conversion of veterans’ funds. The indictments, however, were quashed as soon as Hitler came to power. In post-WWI Germany, blackmail and extortion were rife. Herr A could be blackmailing Herr B, who had some dirt on Herr C, who was extorting sex from Herr A. The degenerate atmosphere is accurately portrayed in the Babylon Berlin TV series.

(3) Regarding your final paragraph, I agree. In Germany, by 1934 the train had left the station; there was no going back. Hanfstaengl, the Harvard graduate Nazi, said that Hitler changed much for the worse after he had real power. There will be no 2022 elections, if the Republicans lose this year.

* I studied those times for several years in order to write a psychological profile of Hitler for a novel. I have to my own satisfaction proven that he was sane, though having multiple (4 or 5!) complexes. No psychosis**. No schizophrenia. The motivation behind the Holocaust was powerful but depressingly simple, Psych 101 level stuff.

** Yes, he did hear voices, but that’s something entirely different, the subject for another book.

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 9, 2020 2:47 pm

“There will be no 2022 elections, if the Republicans lose this year.”

There will be elections, it’s just that like in California, they will be rigged so that the Democrats can’t lose.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Kevin kilty
August 9, 2020 2:13 pm


Thank you. A cogent and succinct summarization of what happened in Germany. The parallels to today are uncanny,

August 9, 2020 8:00 am

I don’t watch NPR for the health of my stomach and soul.

He was fired for posting the truth, and what does that say about NPR, no matter the accuracy of the comparison. The elected leaders of the democrat controlled cities abandoned their oath of office and the citizens they represent, they sided with the mob in the street and lied to the public about the criminal activity in their cities. One even referred to the burning and looting as love.

They sat back while every law and mores of decency was abused. The truth in the comparison is the NAZI allowed no opposition to their narrative.

Reply to  Olen
August 9, 2020 1:14 pm

Jerrold “Jerry” Nadler (D., N.Y.), House Judiciary Committee Chairman, said the Portland Antifa riots are “a myth.” National level gaslighting.

Bob Meyer
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 10, 2020 12:13 am

I went to high school with Nadler, he hasn’t changed.

August 9, 2020 8:09 am

“At KNKX, we value high-quality, factual information in our news programming and we aim to present an array of voices that reflect our region.”

First off, I notice that they left “accurate” off the list they want their news programming to be. It is quite possible to be factual, and yet 100% inaccurate. All you have to do is give only one side of a debate. Something the left is famous for.

As to their claim that they want to present an array of voices, they once again shut down any voice that supports a position that they disagree with.

NPR: Socialists and communists debating as to why capitalism is evil.

Curious George
Reply to  MarkW
August 9, 2020 8:54 am

“NPR: Socialists and communists debating as to why capitalism is evil.” 🙂
I’ll steal that one.

August 9, 2020 8:11 am

Does NPR not see that they just confirmed his analogy to 1930’s Germany. Ironic.

Reply to  DocSiders
August 9, 2020 8:25 am

Socialists aren’t into self-reflection.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  MarkW
August 9, 2020 9:08 am

There is a modicum of intelligence required and it is missing.

August 9, 2020 8:27 am

By the way, it’s “wreaked” or “wrought” not “wrecked” in the way you used it ….as in “to wreak havoc…”.

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  Kalashnikat
August 9, 2020 8:33 am

Yes. The whole thing wreaks to high heaven.

August 9, 2020 9:02 am

Let’s remember all the 2016 hoopla about Trump winning the Electoral College without a majority of the national vote. As if it was not exactly the way the electoral system is devised.

With everything that has happened in the last months and the ensuing overtly biased anti-Trump MSM firestorm, imagine what will happen if he is re-elected in November:

He will be automatically accused of being an usurper who somehow stole the election. There will be mass rioting all over the blue states.

Reply to  BernardP
August 9, 2020 10:53 am

re: mass rioting

That’s what happened with his first election then inauguration and still in progress. Ironically, they warned us that electing Obama would force this outcome. They were wrong, because armed with false correlations, colorful labels, quasi-principles, and distorted history, they mischaracterized people.

J Mac
August 9, 2020 9:21 am

I despise the NPR KNKX fascist firing of Cliff Mass, because of his accurate observations on his personal blog describing the criminal BLM/Antifa/Anarchist terrorism continuing in Seattle WA and Portland OR. His blog narrative of his ‘2 hour walk’ through the decimated and abandoned streets of downtown Seattle is chillingly accurate… and that is what precipitated his retaliatory firing by ohhh-so-politically-correct KNKX’s fascist management. Cliff has just discovered what many others have experienced over the years for being insufficiently supportive of Climate Alarmism and politically correct (PC) thought.

At the same time, I can’t fathom Cliff Mass’ apology for stating his observations in appropriately accurate, if chilling, terms. He was abusively fired for exercising his 1st Amendment rights to free speech and abusively excoriated by many who had been ‘fans’ on his blog … yet he feels compelled to apologize to his abusers? Apparently, Cliff has not yet fully shed his own PC reflex to kowtow to liberal indoctrination and retaliatory actions from their ‘brown shirt’ enforcers. I guess, like Michael Shellenberger’s own progression to harsh reality, Cliff Mass’ reality trip is still a work in progress. As the saying goes, a new conservative is just a liberal that has been mugged. Let’s help and encourage Cliff to shed his remaining cognitive myopia and achieve real acuity.

August 9, 2020 9:24 am

““At KNKX, we value high-quality, factual information in our news programming and we aim to present an array of voices that reflect our region.”

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Oh wait, they are serious. Let me laugh some more!

If the modern media values “high-quality, factual information”, we would have the truth about global warming, COVID-19, and leftist politicians. No, NPR has absolutely no value or love for “high-quality, factual information”. That is just the lie they tell to make people think they are neutral. The modern media has as much value of real “high-quality, factual information” as Stalin did for the lives of Ukrainians.

One of the quickest ways to make someone angry, and I mean really really angry, is to be correct. Whenever you see such a quick reaction, it is either because someone was right or someone went too far.

J Mac
Reply to  Wade
August 9, 2020 10:09 am

“High-quality, factual information” is exactly what Cliff Mass provided, on his blog narrative of his 2 hour walk though the decimated streets of Seattle. KNKX and all Puget Sound area media should nominate him for a Pulitzer Prize!

Roger Knights
Reply to  Wade
August 9, 2020 7:24 pm

“If the modern media values “high-quality, factual information”, we would have the truth about global warming, COVID-19, and leftist politicians. No, NPR has absolutely no value or love for “high-quality, factual information”.”

I read somewhere that PBS or NPR has, over the years, interviewed 183 experts on climate change, not one of them a skeptic.

August 9, 2020 9:47 am

The truth may hurt, but it doesn’t make it any less true.
What a shameful thing to put Cliff through.
I may not always agree with him, but I do know he is one of the good guys.

August 9, 2020 9:58 am

I noticed an interesting comment in discussion of KNKX’s announcement:

It says:

Apparently there is a KNKX ‘virtual’ board meeting coming up next Wednesday on 8/12/2020. It is open to the public although the registration site is not working. If you are able to get in to the call, you may be able to get your voices heard. Or contact the board of directors individually prior to the meeting.

Those of you in WA might want to “attend” (virtually). As the commenter says, there’s a “Register Here” link on the page, but it’s not currently working, but hopefully they’ll fix it by Wednesday.

Reply to  Dave Burton
August 11, 2020 2:28 pm

The Webinar registration link for tomorrow afternoon’s board meeting is finally working:

J Mac
August 9, 2020 10:03 am

Last night the BLM/Antifa/Anarchist KristallNacht continued in Portland OR:

August 9, 2020 10:37 am

I’m waiting for the night of the long knives.

Alexander Vissers
August 9, 2020 10:43 am

Godwin-ing does not help any discussion. If you want to fire every one who has ever Godwin-ed you have a day job. I guess being a weatherman kind of restricts your scope of expression and this was most likely part of the job description, the public should associate you with sunshine not with politics.

Reply to  Alexander Vissers
August 9, 2020 11:00 am

These are, unfortunately, not limited to weather forecasting and politics, and, while the latter has been imputed with a general sense of acceptable distortions and correlations, it does not excuse its integration. Ironically, this is NPR’s modus operandi and downfall.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Alexander Vissers
August 9, 2020 2:39 pm

“I guess being a weatherman kind of restricts your scope of expression ”

He’s a professor of atmospheric sciences at University of Washington.

Joe Shaw
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 9, 2020 4:19 pm

For now at least. UW is about as woke / progressive as NPR.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Joe Shaw
August 10, 2020 9:20 am

Very true. But, if any of their other professors have made any comparison of Trump to Hitler, they would have to fire them too.

John Endicott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 13, 2020 5:26 am

That assumes they have a standard that they follow fair in all cases. The only standard the woke/left have is double standards. (IE rules for thee but not more me). As long as the comparisons to Hilter are against people they don’t like (IE Trump) they’re fine and dandy and not a cause for firing. Make the same comparison against someone they do and it’s cancel time for you.

Reply to  Alexander Vissers
August 9, 2020 2:51 pm

Accurate analogies are always useful, even if the squeamish don’t agree.
As to getting fired because you delved into politics, I’d be a lot more sympathetic if that standard were being applied evenly. We have reporters openly disparaging conservative, even on air, and they are cheered, not fired.

Joel O’Bryan
August 9, 2020 10:49 am

Throwing out the “anti-Semitic” card when there clearly is no anti-Semitism is an attempt to shut down public discussion. The Left does not want the substance to be discussed, as it exposes their lies.

As for Seattle and all those small businesses, many won’t re-open. Those owners who do, after filling damage claims with insurance companies, will get shocked at policy renewal time this fall by huge policy premium increases or out right policy cancellations if the insurance company deems the risk too high.
The insurance companies are covering the insured losses, but they are also taking notes on what the cities and their leaders are doing. Calls to Defund the Police if carried out by city councils and Mayors increase risk of loss immensely and thus they will price policy premiums accordingly. Already slammed by $15/hr minimum wage ordinances, the insurance premium spike will keep many businesses closed and/or move to business friendlier cities.

August 9, 2020 11:21 am

What’s that quote?
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

August 9, 2020 2:06 pm

Leftists want to keep these facts secret:

National Socialists were Leftists, as was revealed by their 1920 party platform, “the 25 points.” Hitler’s objection to Marxism was Marx’s Jewish blood. Other than that, he admired Marx.

Leftists lie anytime they feel like it, often accusing opponents of doing something they, themselves, are already doing or want to do. (Projection)

The Democrat party is full of racists and anti-Semites and always has been.

Leftists’ goal is to take control of every possible organization that has assets or power. They have largely accomplished this, particularly the major “foundations.” Yes, this is a conspiracy, and some conspiracy theories are real.

Republicans rarely can find work at major universities.

In numbers, the Far-Right is a small fraction of the Far-Left.

Generally, there are more corrupt Democrats than Republicans.

In the big cities, vote fraud is a way of life.

James Clarke
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 9, 2020 8:21 pm

Great list! Here is another fact they are keeping secret. ALL of their issues are false-flag operations, designed to divert our attention from the fact that their only real goal is to overthrow Western Civilization to make way for their ‘socialist utopia’, with them in charge of course!

Smart Rock
August 9, 2020 2:24 pm

It’s a bit like Kristallnacht, yes. But it’s more like the riots in Munich at the beginning of the nazi rise to power, before that chap with the mustache got to be Chancellor.

Early days yet. They have found out just how much they can get away with (probably a lot more than they ever imagined). They will be back.

Cliff Mass is paying the price of speaking truthfully in a post-truth world.

Jeff Alberts
August 9, 2020 2:37 pm

The title is a bit demeaning. Cliff Mass is a professor of Atmospheric Sciences at UW. While he is still sort of a warmist, he constantly debunks alarmist nonsense.

I posted a link to a similar article in Tips and Notes a couple days ago.

I also mentioned that Dr. Mass had an interview with a Seattle talk radio host Dori Monson on KIRO radio. During the interview, Mass mentioned that people at (Weepy Bill McKibben’s organization) tried to get him fired from NPR some months ago, because he wasn’t sufficiently alarmist in his climate related material.

Jeff Alberts
August 9, 2020 2:44 pm

“the destruction two months of incessant rioting and protests have wrecked on Seattle.”


August 9, 2020 3:52 pm

As well as the Kristallnacht level of destruction in Seattle, Democrat/Leftist inspired censorship and propaganda has come well up to Nazi levels too. I like the idea that NPR stands for Nazi Propaganda Radio as iut seems entirely appropriate.

John VC
August 9, 2020 4:00 pm

since no one else has brought it up, guess I will:
It doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows
Robert Zimmerman

Roger Knights
August 9, 2020 7:36 pm

KNKX is not just a Tacoma station. It has satellite stations in Olympia, Seattle (in my neighborhood), Bremerton, Sedro Wooly, and one other place. Its byline is “Jazz, blues, and NPR news.” Its jazz announcers are excellent, as is its selection of “world-class jazz.”

Until three (?) years ago its call letters were KPLU, for Pacific Lutheran University. It had a pledge drive, raised $7 million, and became independent. But more beholden to its likely-woke donors, and thus less hospitable to Maas. He likely wouldn’t have been hired in the first place under the current regime.

(What did he say in his apology, BTW?)

James Clarke
Reply to  Roger Knights
August 9, 2020 8:24 pm

With my aging eyes, KNKX really looks like KKK at first glance. I am sure it is just a coincidence.

Robert of Texas
August 9, 2020 7:51 pm

Liberals hate the truth. They want to control the narrative and hide the truth. Their tactics ARE eerily similar to the Nazi Brown Shirts.

I keep holding my breath…eventually these anarchists are going to pick on the wrong set of people and there is going to be some real violence. The police need to do their dang job, and the politicians need to back the polices up before this all explodes.

Tom Abbott
August 9, 2020 8:01 pm

Cliff Mass got fired for telling the truth.

August 9, 2020 8:17 pm

First they came for the weathermen….

Bill Parsons
August 9, 2020 8:23 pm

Still a mystery is how the federal government can and must respond to these idiots in City Councils and Mayors’ offices around the U.S. who let the sub-humans take over their streets in order to burn and loot – then blame the troops who do respond. Hard to see how we’re a country of laws anymore.

Mr. Mass writes beautifully… intelligently enough to be fired by NPR, which should be among his most prized accolades. His commentary should be cc’d to anyone who’ll listen, and published by any conservative outlets with b*lls.

Somebody give this man a job that’s worthy of him.

James Clarke
August 9, 2020 8:31 pm

That radio station needed Cliff more than Cliff needed the station. Not only is Cliff Mass an excellent meteorologist, he is a ‘good man’ with the courage to speak truth to power. Well done, sir! We need a lot more ‘good men’ like Cliff Mass!

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

August 10, 2020 11:00 am

I hope this weatherman Sue’s NPR into oblivion for violating his civil rights and stomping out his constitutional right of free speech.

Ted B.
August 10, 2020 12:13 pm

I think Cliff Mass is quite correct in seeing an equivalence between today’s widespread destruction carried out by anarchist thugs and Germany’s Kristallnacht. Americans need to wake up to what is happening in this country. Mass is not the only one to make the comparison. Her is an editorial by Stewart Weiss in the Jerusalem Post in which he makes to same comparison at the end of the 3’rd paragraph:

August 10, 2020 4:19 pm

And people are surprised why?

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