
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
A new climate study has dismissed utterly implausible high end climate models. But the new study also seeks to raise the low end of the range of estimated climate sensitivity into the discomfort zone.
The climate won’t warm as much as we feared – but it will warm more than we hoped
July 23, 2020 5.52am AEST
Steven SherwoodARC Laureate Fellow, Climate Change Research Centre, UNSW
Eelco RohlingProfessor of Ocean and Climate Change, Australian National University
Katherine MarvelAssociate Research Scientist, NASA
We know the climate changes as greenhouse gas concentrations rise, but the exact amount of expected warming remains uncertain.
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A major new assessment has now calculated a range of 2.6–3.9℃. This implies that alarmingly high estimates from some recent climate models are unlikely, but also that comfortingly low estimates from other studies are even less likely.
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In 1979, a farsighted report estimated for the first time that equilibrium climate sensitivity falls somewhere between 1.5℃ and 4.5℃. So if carbon dioxide concentrations doubled, global temperatures would eventually increase by somewhere in that range.
The width of this range is a problem. If equilibrium climate sensitivity lies at the low end of the range, climate change might be manageable with relatively relaxed national policies.
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Read more: https://theconversation.com/the-climate-wont-warm-as-much-as-we-feared-but-it-will-warm-more-than-we-hoped-143175
The abstract of the study;
An assessment of Earth’s climate sensitivity using multiple lines of evidence
Authors: S. Sherwood, M.J. Webb, J.D. Annan, K.C. Armour, P.M. Forster, J.C., Hargreaves, G. Hegerl, S. A. Klein, K.D. Marvel, E.J. Rohling, M. Watanabe, T. Andrews, P. Braconnot, C.S. Bretherton, G.L. Foster, Z. Hausfather, A.S. von der Heydt, R. Knutti, T. Mauritsen, J.R. Norris, C. Proistosescu, M. Rugenstein, G.A. Schmidt, K.B. Tokarska, M.D. Zelinka.
We assess evidence relevant to Earth’s equilibrium climate sensitivity per doubling of atmospheric CO2, characterized by an effective sensitivity S. This evidence includes feedback process understanding, the historical climate record, and the paleoclimate record. An S value lower than 2 K is difficult to reconcile with any of the three lines of evidence. The amount of cooling during the Last Glacial Maximum provides strong evidence against values of S greater than 4.5 K. Other lines of evidence in combination also show that this is relatively unlikely. We use a Bayesian approach to produce a probability density (PDF) for S given all the evidence, including tests of robustness to difficult-to-quantify uncertainties and different priors. The 66% range is 2.6-3.9 K for our Baseline calculation, and remains within 2.3-4.5 K under the robustness tests; corresponding 5-95% ranges are 2.3-4.7 K, bounded by 2.0-5.7 K (although such high – confidence ranges should be regarded more cautiously). This indicates a stronger constraint on S than reported in past assessments, by lifting the low end of the range. This narrowing occurs because the three lines of evidence agree and are judged to be largely independent, and because of greater confidence in understanding feedback processes and in combining evidence. We identify promising avenues for further narrowing the range in S, in particular using comprehensive models and process understanding to address limitations in the traditional forcing-feedback paradigm for interpreting past changes.
Read more: https://climateextremes.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/WCRP_ECS_Final_manuscript_2019RG000678R_FINAL_200720.pdf
The study uses an unusual definition of equilibrium climate sensitivity, though they provide a detailed explanation for their choice. From the main body of the study;
In choosing the reference scenario to define sensitivity for this assessment, for practical reasons we depart from the traditional Charney ECS definition (equilibrium response with ice sheets and vegetation assumed fixed) in favor of a comparable and widely used, so-called “effective climate sensitivity” S derived from system behavior during the first 150 years following a (hypothetical) sudden quadrupling of CO2. During this time the system is not in equilibrium, but regression of global-mean top-of-atmosphere energy imbalance onto global-mean near-surface air temperature, extrapolated to zero imbalance, yields an estimate of the long-term warming valid if the average feedbacks active during the first 150 years persisted to equilibrium (Gregory et al., 2004). This quantity therefore approximates the long-term Charney ECS (e.g., Danabasoglu and Gent, 2009), though how well it does so is a matter of active investigation addressed below. Our reference scenario does not formally exclude any feedback process, but the 150-year time frame minimizes slow feedbacks (especially ice sheet changes).
Read more: Same link as above
The treatment of cloud feedback is interesting. The study acknowledges large cloud feedback uncertainties, mentions the Lindzen et al. (2001) “iris effect”, and admits GCMs cannot be trusted to reproduce observed cloud response, yet still appears to attempt to derive a cloud feedback factor based on satellite observations, and mix this observational cloud factor with model predictions.
The treatment of clouds may turn out to be one of the most controversial assumptions in the study – as Pat Frank has pointed out on a number of occasions, the magnitude of model cloud response error is significantly greater than the CO2 driven warming which models attempt to project, which calls into question whether climate models have any predictive skill whatsoever.
To the author’s credit they have described their method in great detail, so I’m looking forward to detailed responses to this study.
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If 2.6C was even plausible, then we should have seen at least twice to three times more warming over the last 80 years.
YES!
The fact is that any high sensitivity number applied to actual CO2 increases since they became significant in 1950 would yield current temperatures that are implausible. The higher the sensitivity number goes, the harder it becomes to reconcile with current temps.
Tuning past parameters will get you any hindcast you need. Please note that individual CMIP5 model hindcasts vary wildly before about 1975, neck down in their ranges from then to about 2005 and then vary wildly after that point. Tuning, anyone?
If Lewis and Curry’s 1.8C was remotely plausible we would see it. Makes me wonder what game they’re playing.
That’s easily fixed. If they observe warming they say see we were right. If they don’t see it they say there are unknown natural factors affecting the temperature rise but it’s still there. Prove me wrong!
Evidence is always in the data!
Refer to earlier post which details total lack of effect due to enhanced greenhouse effect in Central Australia where the effect should be well and truly evident by now.
No signal in the data. NONE!
test
If we get 1.2°C warming with a half-doubling of atmospheric CO2 (280-415ppm) how can we get another 1.2 or more, if the doubling is completed? Doesn’t this up-end the whole concept of *climate sensitivity*?https://reason.com/2020/07/23/how-much-will-the-planet-warm-if-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-doubles/?fbclid=IwAR2dd3oBJqQ-s7igRwoXPMcfM0HiKx742-TDW3QIgpfIOuJdyu9S0NWEx0I
….. and that’s if you use a flat baseline for the 1.2°C warming which could only happen if you had huge confidence in a fortune teller with a wonderfully-calibrated crystal ball showing that natural warming went flat around 1950, and it would still only give another 0.6 – 0.7°C from 396 (the logarithmic mid-point) to 560 ppm, including natural warming if it continued.
Nope, not by any null hypothesis rules of real science. At these levels of CO2, its effect on global warming continues to be indistinguishable from zero.
From the article: “We know the climate changes as greenhouse gas concentrations rise,”
You don’t know that. You are guessing. Quit lying.
Since climate has not measurably changed during the 21st Century while CO2 has dramatically increased, how does that square with the assumption?
Easily, if you avoid calculators, backs of envelopes/pencils and all that kind of stuff that the big oil industry pushes.
Wow, 25 authors for this report – no need for any peer review then. And they all agreed with each other and looked forward to their invitation to the next IPCC party. And despite the climate emergency, the IPCC has extended the time for submission of papers from July 1 to November 1, 2020. The Fourth Lead Author Meeting to prepare the final draft of Working Group 2 will also be postponed by about four months to March 2021.
The intention is to release all the Reports of the three Working Groups and the Synthesis Report in time to inform the 2023 Global Stocktake by the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
Who wants the science to be settled when more studies will see them through to retirement?
It must be gospel since unrealclimate is praising it.
[[We assess evidence relevant to Earth’s equilibrium climate sensitivity per doubling of atmospheric CO2, characterized by an effective sensitivity S. This evidence includes feedback process understanding, the historical climate record, and the paleoclimate record.]]
When will this U.N. IPCC octopus quit churning out fake science for big govt. bucks? To understand CO2 “climate sensitivity” they have to study the historical and paleoclimate record?
Guess what, bozos? You only have to know basic physics, which proves that CO2 can’t melt an ice cube because its absorption/emission wavelength of 15 microns has a Planck radiation temperature of -80C, colder than dry ice, and hence isn’t even heat. Let’s say that atmospheric CO2 absorbed all of Earth’s 15 micron radiation and managed to send it back at full strength. Then it would effectively keep the surface from NOTHING, since it’s always hotter than -80C, and hence if it wants to cool via radiation it will do it with shorter wavelengths. CO2 GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX, AS IS CO2 CLIMATE SENSITIVITY! MAKE THEM GIVE THE MONEY BACK AND RETRAIN FOR USEFUL CAREERS LIKE UBER DELIVERY DRIVER!
http://www.historyscoper.com/thebiglieaboutco2.html
It’s OK. We’re still doomed.
Analyzing and calculation of ECS is irrelevant because the IPCC has written like this in AR5 [48], (p. 1110): “ECS determines the eventual warming in response to stabilization of atmospheric composition on multicentury time scales, while TCR determines the warming expected at a given time following any steady increase in forcing over a 50- to 100-year time scale.” IPCC has changed the TCS to TCR (Transient Climate Response). On page 1112 of AR5 IPCC states that “TCR is a more informative indicator of future climate than ECS.”
Talking about the ECS is highly theoretical with multicentury timescale involved.
old engineer,
Yes, that is exactly what they did. Please see my above comment (at https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/07/24/settled-science-new-climate-study-shifts-the-goalposts-to-2-6-3-9c/#comment-3039598 ) which quotes the pertinent paragraph from the paper and explains it.
Richard
Radiative Green House Effect theory says downwelling “extra” energy “trapped” and “back” radiated from the GHGs makes the earth warmer.
How and where, exactly, do the GHGs “trap” this “extra” energy? They must deduct it from the atmosphere’s energy debit card. If a credit isn’t applied to that card there will be a deficit in the ToA balance.
So how does this atmospheric debit card get refilled?
Per RGHE the surface radiates as an ideal black body upwelling “extra” energy to recharge that debit card.
Because of the non-radiative heat transfer processes of the contiguous participating atmospheric molecules ideal black body LWIR upwelling “extra” energy from the surface is not possible.
No “extra” upwelling energy, no “trapped” or “back” radiated “extra” energy, no GHG warming, no man caused climate change or global warming.
The concept of “extra” and “trapped” energy violates physics and thermodynamics.
The alleged upwelling and downwelling “extra” energy measurements are the illusion of improperly configured instruments and confirmation bias. Remember cold fusion where the “extra” energy turned out to be stray electrical currents in the apparatus.
As demonstrated by experiment, the gold standard of classical science.
Why the instruments are wrong.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicholas-schroeder-55934820_irinstuments-greenhouseeffect-climatechange-activity-6691709852550606848-rW8w
Why the surface cannot radiate as an ideal black body.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicholas-schroeder-55934820_climatechange-globalwarming-carbondioxide-activity-6655639704802852864-_5jW
And a summary just because.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicholas-schroeder-55934820_greenhouse-globalwarming-climatechange-activity-6690278760157192192-CS81
Why do these numbers matter when this is the basis for the scary 2 degrees. WHY?
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/climate-catastrophe-a-superstorm-for-global-warming-research-a-686697.html