THE CURRENT STATE OF CLIMATE ALARMISTS

Heartland’s Donald Kendal, Jim Lakely, and Justin Haskins are joined by Isaac Orr in episode 249 of the In The Tank Podcast. What are climate alarmists thinking when they see massive movements and economic changes form around COVID and civil rights, but relatively nothing over climate change? Do people just not care about global warming? What is the current state of the alarmists? What is their path forward?

What are climate alarmists thinking when they see massive movements and economic changes form around COVID and civil rights, but relatively nothing over climate change? Do people just not care about global warming? What is the current state of the alarmists? What is their path forward?

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June 26, 2020 1:56 pm

I got that weird deja vu (all over again) feeling reading the description of this podcast.

Greg
Reply to  Joerl O'Bryan
June 27, 2020 2:30 am

What an amazing amount of drivel. I got to 15 minutes and stopped the video. It’s like over-hearing a bunch of guys in a bar just chatting because they’ve got nothing to do.

What a waste of my time.

Is this the best Heartland can do ?

Bryan A
June 26, 2020 2:06 pm

COVID and Civil Rights are forefront at the moment because people only care about what is biting them in the A$$ at the moment. If and when CC should EVER begin to show an effect (AKA BITING THE A$$) it is only then that something will need to be done by our Great Grand Children. Until that time (if it ever comes to pass) CC will remain a back burner issue in the general public.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Bryan A
June 26, 2020 2:56 pm

That’s why all these predictive models are absolutely useless. We cannot prepare for what’s going to happen until we know what IS going to happen.

Doesn’t do a hell of a lot of good to build a dam fifty years out, if it floods a quarter mile down the way.

Although, I’d rather do that than try to STOP the flood by micromanaging humanity’s global CO2 output.

Old.George
Reply to  Bryan A
June 26, 2020 3:44 pm

Climate Change is a swamp drainage project (to the true believers); but we’re up to our a$$ is COVID19.

James francisco
June 26, 2020 2:34 pm

“What are climate alarmists thinking when they see massive movements and economic changes form around COVID and civil rights, but relatively nothing over climate change? Do people just not care about global warming?”

What the climate alarmist should be thinking is that two newer and quicker paths to collectivism have just magically replaced them. They should abandon their old team and join a new one.

Reply to  James francisco
June 26, 2020 3:12 pm

The Climate Nutters have always thought they owned the Global Marxists-Socialists.
Turns out they had it backwards. The Climate Nutters are the ones who are owned by the Globalist-Marxists. Just like a Distracted Boyfriend meme, the Globalist-Marxists will dump the Climate Scammers in a heartbeat to get what they really want.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xlbOFZOI035P529OeBptdtYORqSlYneN/view?usp=sharing

Coeur de Lion
June 26, 2020 2:38 pm

They need to watch the level of CO2 in the atmosphere as we experience a Thunbergian Experiment. It’s going up.

Scissor
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
June 26, 2020 4:37 pm

I predict it’ll be going down now until about the end of September.

Joel Snider
June 26, 2020 2:51 pm

Well, as alarmists go – they’re even worse than we even thought.

markl
June 26, 2020 2:58 pm

They’re thinking the MSM has abandon them for new directives from their owners and their chance of the CC narrative gaining more traction is losing out. The Marx Bros. see shiny new objects that may have more propaganda potential and they need to seize the moment. Until another catastrophe comes along.

Bill Powers
Reply to  markl
June 27, 2020 6:22 am

You are exactly right markl. Here in the good ole USofA, the MSM has become nothing more than the Propaganda Ministry for the Crony Capitalist Cultural Elitists who run the country. These Cultural Elites have been wrangling Representative Representation away from the People gradually for a Century now, They began working on this evolutionary plan back under the Wilson Administration and it has been evolving right under our noses. The core initiative is to pick at sores and pit citizen against citizen.

We might call their evolved plan the latest rendition of Socialism: Ruling by Executive Order, Bureaucratic Regulation, and Supreme Court fiat, leaving the individual with the illusion that their vote matters. The Cultural Elites think THIS time they will get it right. This Marx idea of equality of poverty for all but the ruling class. Their vision of a perfect society of Haves and Have Nots where the Haves run the government and the Have Nots are housed, fed, and controlled by it.

The Haves bang the drum and clang the bell of the “Goebbels’ machine we call the media, which has divided the Have Nots into identity groups and with divisive messaging has pitted the identity groups against each other. With Republicrat hand puppet politicians and Demoplican hand puppet politicians promising to protect their respective groups against the others.

Therefore its not the message that is important but rather the division and in-fighting among the Have Nots, hence the Climate Changers are expendable so long as the Haves, have issues that call for Central Authoritarian Government control to resolve them. Climate Change can always be resurrected as it is ageless. Right now they have a better battles being waged which calls for immediate government oppression/action. Besides that pesky Climate with its d@mn natural variability along with violent weather events has just not been cooperating with their Goebbels narrative.

James Francisco
Reply to  Bill Powers
June 27, 2020 12:27 pm

Don’t forget to add his title of Dr. to his name. It will remind everyone that just because they have a title doesn’t mean that they have good intentions.

David Kamakaris
June 26, 2020 3:05 pm

Chicom-19 and civil rights are legitimate issues. Climate change is not.

MarkW
Reply to  David Kamakaris
June 26, 2020 3:38 pm

Civil Rights are legitimate issues. The nonsense that people are rioting over is made up nonsense.

Scissor
Reply to  MarkW
June 26, 2020 4:25 pm

People of Slavic descent should get extra reparations.

n.n
Reply to  Scissor
June 26, 2020 4:49 pm

They were at the center of the West-East (e.g. Muslim, socialist, communist) progression, evolution, really, but, then again, so were people in Southern Europe, who were captured for the African slave trade and other forward-looking enterprises.

That said, in America, reparations were paid through unprecedented sacrifice of blood and treasure, and a Posterity that stands against redistributive change schemes and diversity (e.g. racism) and other classes of bigotry.

MarkW
Reply to  n.n
June 27, 2020 11:02 am

How much reparation should a black, who’s ancestors arrived in the US after 1860 receive?
Likewise, how much is owed by an non-black who’s ancestors arrived after 1860?
Do people who are half black, pay themselves?

I fully believe that anyone who was a slave should be compensated and anyone who owned slaves should pay.

Reply to  Scissor
June 26, 2020 10:02 pm

Irish-Americans should receive reparations. Both from Britain and the US.
Jus’ saying, if we want to equalize stuff that happened a hundred years ago or more.

Redge
Reply to  Joel "23&Me says I'm Irish" O'Bryan
June 26, 2020 11:58 pm

I’m still waiting for my share of reparations from the Romans and Ghenghis Khan, not to mention the hominids who drove my race out of Africa.

yirgach
Reply to  Joel "23&Me says I'm Irish" O'Bryan
June 27, 2020 6:22 am

@Redge

Don’t worry, we’ll get to that after we take down the Pyramids.

n.n
Reply to  MarkW
June 26, 2020 4:56 pm

Civil rights, including due process is old-fashioned. Were in the age of progress, where warlock judgments (e.g. “protests”), witch trials (e.g. by press), diversity (i.e. color judgments), and redistributive change (e.g. looting) schemes are social justice imperatives. Never mind that there was 9 minutes without confrontation, and the guy tested positive for Covid-19, fentanyl, and other comorbidities, which were exacerbated and amplified through multiple stressors, not limited to restraint. There is no evidence that diversity (e.g. racism) was a motive. Did the Minnessota AG sign off on the regulation, which is probably rational, even reasonable, in 99% of the cases?

MarkW
Reply to  n.n
June 27, 2020 11:04 am

Even if the Floyd case was as clear cut as the rioters want to believe, how often do such cases occur.
1 every 5 to 10 years across the entire US?

Gino
Reply to  David Kamakaris
June 26, 2020 5:17 pm

The hypocrisy of the new “civil rights” movement is amazing… over 2400 blacks have been shot in Chicago alone this year… by other blacks… with over 400 deaths! See any news articles decrying this slaughter?

Graemethecat
Reply to  Gino
June 27, 2020 12:40 am

Total silence from Black Lives Matter on this. Can’t imagine why.

MarkW
Reply to  Graemethecat
June 27, 2020 11:05 am

The head of BLM recently declared in an interview, that if they don’t get what they want, then they are going to burn down society.

mario lento
Reply to  Graemethecat
June 29, 2020 1:49 pm

It’s worse than silence. When I bring it up, I am trashed as a white privileged racist. I told one group my name is of Latin decent, and I received an apology. I then explained that because I am of true Latin decent, (Italian heritage) that I am painted white and this am not truly considered to be a Latino. No response, too complicated for them. So it’s not silence, it’s hateful denial.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
June 26, 2020 3:05 pm

Perhaps what secretly terrifies them is that they cannot make inroads on the indifference of most people to their constant hysteria and the dread that they are irrelevant…

Scissor
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
June 26, 2020 4:27 pm

McKibben looks like Oreskes is coming over to give him a kiss.

peterg
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
June 26, 2020 6:00 pm

That university of East Anglia appears to be quite effective at turning out climate change skeptics!

n.n
June 26, 2020 3:47 pm

Where some people see planets in the dust, other people just see dust, and others yet see interference patterns formed from signals, observable, repeatable, of assumed/asserted, unknown fidelity.

The virus originally from Wuhan, formally known as SARS-CoV-2 can be addressed in context, whether symptomatic or asymptomatic, whether transmitted through respired droplets or fecal matter (a la HIV), whether indoors (e.g. greenhouse effect) or outdoors, the masks are virtually useless over time and physical activity (e.g. “protests”) and no one wears goggles, practice good hygiene and avoid touching eyes, nose, and mouth to mitigate cross-contamination. Seniors should take precautions to avoid jurisdictions (e.g. New York) where Planned Parent is common practice.

That said, diversity (i.e. color judgments including racism), chauvinism (e.g. masculinism, feminism), immigration reform (e.g. collateral damage from social justice, avoidance of emigration reform), (political congruence (“=” or selective exclusion), planned parenthood (e.g. Wicked Solution, Mengele clinics), pro-choice, selective, opportunistic religion… Baby Lives Matter. #Reconcile

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  n.n
June 26, 2020 4:21 pm

I think that’s called a Stream of Unconsciousness.

n.n
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
June 26, 2020 4:42 pm

Your see patterns in the sky. That’s ok. People want to believe in something. Are you also a member of the Progressive Church with a Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic religion? Where do you disagree?

n.n
June 26, 2020 3:49 pm

The forecast is for a 30 degree temperature drop next week. Above normal, below average, or within the normal range? Is it a sustainable or progressive change over a 30-year period?

DMacKenzie
June 26, 2020 4:03 pm

Thousands of Death Certificates say “CoVid19”, but nobody has ever seen one that says “climate change” as COD….

MarkW
Reply to  DMacKenzie
June 27, 2020 11:07 am

What about the 10’s of thousands who have died because they could no longer afford both food and heat, thanks to the work of the climate warriors?

Gary Pearse
June 26, 2020 7:24 pm

Did you hear on the video McKibbons’s lament. “Well so much for humanity and the planet, but what about me!” If you ever needed to understand what is meant by the hubris of these lame folk, this is the T- shirt slogan to turn to. The ‘scientists’ and ‘humanities graduates’ pushing this meme really are sad empty vessels looking for fulfillment that they would never find in a productive field. They were born to be part of the tax burden.

kakatoa
June 27, 2020 6:08 am

Thanks for bringing the video to our attention.

I almost shut if off as “THE FIVE” like banter lasted way to long.

The discussion on how expensive grid costs become with wind and solar was spot on. Speaking of costs they jumped a bunch this April vs last year for the residential sector in CA-

20.47 kWh vs 18.05 kWh

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a

I hope the Heartland team has a chance to look into the rather large increase in energy costs.

Nicholas McGinley
June 27, 2020 7:31 am

“Do people just not care about global warming?”

The answer is that people have long since identified this whole thing as a bunch of BS.
Stake BS is beyond boring.
It commands zero attention from people who have actual issues that need their time and attention.

MarkW
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
June 27, 2020 11:08 am

I care. And I wish it would hurry up. Most of the planet is just too darn cold.

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