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Michael Moore (gleefully rubbing his hands together): Bring it on!
Mann just provided one MORE piece of evidence that he is not a very bright man. As IF this will hurt Moore. Publicity is publicity. (or maybe….. Mann is really a Russian agent who wants “clean energy” to fail….. 🤔)
Re: “clean energy” (Mann in his little tweet or whatever above) — LOL.
Why can’t he, Mann not preserve his own dirty energy for s. th. usefull ??
Mann: repeat “clean energy” monotonously like a buddhist chant. Maybe that will make people forget that M.Moore just exposed how UNCLEAN ( ie pollution ) “clean”energy ( ie CO2 ) is.
Maybe we can all suddenly forget that biomass means destroying massive areas of living forest to avoid digging up fossilised forest: ” dirty coal “.
Maybe I’m just too old but when I was young being an enviro was all about saving trees, not destroying them.
But maybe I should incline to “real” scientists who pretended he got non scientific peace prize for his part in misleading the world.
Whether you like M. Moore or not it’s pretty clear which one of this pair has integrity and the balls to stick to what he believes and who is out to lie, cheat and deceive.
FUHcKIaYjJ ?
Not sure if you spelt that quite right but yeah same to you M.E.Mann.
Climate protection unequal to nature/environment protection, it’s an oxymoron.
Climate is just part part of the politizied Natures Dictatorship?
“Maybe I’m just too old but when I was young being an enviro was all about saving trees, not destroying them.”
Coal meant also saving the trees AND avoiding nuclear power which was not clean but dangerous.
That is how times change.
Except that nuclear was not dangerous outside of Communist Russia. And
molten salt ractors are safer than any form of power generation, by far.
Not so, Col., and Ron. Second generation nuclear is by far the safest way to produce electricity in any significant quantity. It’s the only energy industry, and one of the very few industries in the world, which is comprehensively regulated.
I was actually referring to the swing in opinions that for some Greens nuclear power is now clean where it was not in the past but coal was preferable to avoid “nuclear disaster”. Without Fukushima that would be still way more emphasized.
I do not have any educated opinion about how save nuclear power is or not and what to do with the garbage. Just never looked into it more deeply.
re: “I do not have any educated opinion about how save nuclear power is or not and what to do with the garbage. Just never looked into it more deeply.”
And, of course, alternatives like the hydrino reactor by one Dr. Mills is a taboo (suppressed) topic in polite company, such as we have here on WUWT. Much more talk on this subject will bring out the ‘house fly’ MarkW too.
Blank Jim — You’re better than that. I enjoy your comments, usually, but, when you denigrate someone as well-informed and with as much integrity as regular commenter, MarkW, I must protest.
He may disagree with you on that topic (and I have no idea what you are talking about there — I am definitely PRO-NUCLEAR POWER myself (reprocessing and, until that is okay, welded dry cannister storage and glass/salt cavern storage will suffice — not attempting to discuss this, just wanted to: 1) acknowledge the storage issue; and 2) affirm that it can be managed and, thus, nuclear power is a viable as well as EXCELLENT power source),
but, his comment record on WUWT proves him to be a thoughtful, intelligent, well-worth-reading, contributor who does NOT deserve in the least to be called such a foul name as “house fly.”
@ColMosby
Molten salt reactors are certainly safe, because there isn’t a single one anywhere on the planet. There have only ever been two, both experimental, and neither put a Watt into the grid.
I’m a nuke fan, maybe these are somewhere in the future, but I’m beginning to wonder why you keep pushing this powerpoint technology as though we just need to pull them off the shelf.
Unless I’m wrong and you can link to a working one, please? Even a prototype?
“Maybe I’m just too old but when I was young being an enviro was all about saving trees, not destroying them. ” Do you live in a wood home with wood furniture and paper products? Then you are guilty of destroying trees! If you like wood products- trees must be harvested and for good forest mgt. some very defective trees that have no market must also be harvested- in some regions, the only potential market is for biomass. Foresters and loggers are enviros too- whether you can grasp that nor not. We like nice forests that are nicely managed. And we also like national parks and other landscapes that are NOT managed. This is the one topic the Moore movie got wrong. There are lunatics out there preaching how evil biomass is. They are wrong.
Awww…That was Toooo Tweet
Eating their own – so to speak.
Facts don’t care about your filling Mr.Mann – resorting to the “Russian” excuse shows your inability to transparently defend your position.
They are not eating their own. They are on the same team. Don’t kid yourselves for a second that the enviro crowd is splitting apart. They are just moving to phase 2, the acknowledgement that energy consumption must just be cut by 80-90% and we must accept the devastation to our economy, lifestyle, and life as a result.
Don’t be fooled.
They are split. This is not an act. People like Mann are trying to push some insane low density energy system that involves burning down living forests and strip mining vast areas for the raw materials to do it with. Moore is saying in effect, the cure is worse than the disease. If Moore succeeds, if he can convince enough environmentalists to turn away from this madness, he will have reset the debate.
The next question is how do we want to live? Do we want to live a 1950s lifestyle, nobody travels anywhere, consumers only occasionally buying a new radio or spade? (I’m talking 1950s UK, not US, which was very different). When put in those terms, there is only one solution, whether people like it or not: nuclear.
VC, You’ve been fooled, don’t be. Moore is NOT trying to reset the debate, he is advancing it. They want to cut energy production and energy demand, you will not be driving, flying, heating your house, etc,etc.
re: ” Moore is NOT trying to reset the debate, he is advancing it. They want to cut energy production and energy demand, you will not be driving, flying, heating your house, etc,etc.”
His objective, although not stated is “To Serve Man“.
It may be ‘a cookbook’ for all I know …
I don’t get why people are pushing nuclear. Is it cheaper than Coal? Surely if it was then China wouldn’t be building coal power stations both in China and elsewhere.
Economics of Nuclear Reactor plant, vs a nat gas plant in this case (nat gas may be priced competitive to coal given what is required of coal plants today):
I don’t get why people are pushing nuclear. Is it cheaper than Coal?
It’s much, much cleaner than unregulated “not clean” coal. It might even be cheaper than highly regulated “clean” coal in certain circumstances (I haven’t run the numbers, so can’t say for certain).
Surely if it was then China wouldn’t be building coal power stations both in China and elsewhere.
Look at the pollution (I mean real pollution, not CO2) China’s coal plants produce. China’s coal fleet is not the highly regulated (and relatively more expensive) “clean” coal. So yes, they’re dirt cheap energy, but the real price is the high level of real pollution they emit.
so for those saving the environment/planet (or even though who just want clean air to breath) Nuclear is the better option, even if it might be more “expensive” strictly on building/operating costs.
Yes, it seems Mann is most likely a Russian agent or Chinese agent- or both.
Russian might too poor to appeal to Mann desires.
One stooge accuses another… the pot castigating the kettle
two idiots fighting over the weather in a car wash.
Janice – more likely to generate a “Streisand Effect”.
For me, the sadest part of the movie was the part with the Oran Utang.
Yes, Walt D., I agree.
And, oh, Walt. 😢 As soon as I heard the sound of that chainsaw (in the first few frames of the orangutan holding its baby), I quit watching. I knew.
And, just now, to be sure I knew what you meant, I went back to the movie and for the first time saw the orangutan struggling through the mud… . Oh, that hurt my heart so much…
It did not, nevertheless, persuade me that humans, per se, are too numerous or too “materialistic.” Humans can love and care for orangutans AND responsibly use natural resources.
*******
(Note: whales are NOT “natural resources” — slaughtering them by spearing them and dragging them around until they die is monstrously cruel and completely unjustified by any need. It is as ev!l as cutting down a tree with an orangutan in it or, spearing an orangutan and dragging it through the jungle until it bled to death.)
Walt! Oh, wow. I am over 50 years old and I have been mispronouncing “orangutan” ALL MY LIFE! I thought it was “uh-rang-uh-TANG!” Unbelievable. (But, true!) Probably have been spelling it wrong most of the time, too. I’m going to blame it on Tang. We drank a lot of that when I was little (the Gemini IV astronauts drank it — “with a full day’s supply of Vitamin C!” — one weird thing about that 1983 TV ad (just listened to it on youtube for fun), the narrator pronounces orange, ah-ruhnge. Shrug. I suppose that guy pronounced “Ode to Joy” “Odd to Joy.” lol)
“oh-rang-uh-TANG” 🙄
The Russians?!?
What is it with the commies and their obsession with Russia? Is Russia an enemy of the USA, yep. Is Russia the bogeyman, nope. The commies are in Lalaland.
No, Russia is not legitimately an enemy of the U.S.
The U.S. is however legitimately an enemy of Russia.
Quibbling.
Robert
“…No, Russia is not legitimately an enemy of the U.S….”
You seem to have conveniently overlooked a few thousand nuclear weapons.
I would, however, agree China is the more strategic threat.
Yes, of the West’s four major opponents in a de facto alliance, Iran, North Korea, Russia and Red China, the latter is the Main Adversary (Glavny Protivnik), as the Soviets used to call the US.
When, in the 2012 presidential debates, Romney identified Russia as the main opponent, he was wrong.
RINO Romney was and is wrong about a lot of things.
You’ve got that backward. The US offered Russia under Yeltsin to join NATO. Yeltsin enjoyed visiting the US, walking the streets of DC at night in his pajamas, drunk and looking for pizza. Aside from disagreement re. Serbia, the two countries got along after the collapse of the mass murderous Soviet regime.
But Putin’s stock in trade is Russian nationalism, so he needs the US as an enemy. States threatened by an expansionist neo-Russian Empire did join NATO. Maybe a mistake to let them in, but they have good reason to seek protection.
John Tillman
May 5, 2020 at 4:22 pm
But thanks to Oboomer, Russia was forced to respond and invade a part of Ukraine,
and kicked out of G8.
And thanks to the ideology of “place too crowded and too many around”, an organization like
WHO and the bureaucratic administrative structure of UN and +++ have ended up declaring war to China,
after putting the entire world for a while in house arrest and having it subject to economical depression.
Something definitely Russia cannot be blamed for.
Russia and China, whatever you think about them,
are clearly the only countries that show
they have no interest and no urge whatsoever for world economical depression or world depopulation.
Actually they stand as firm obstacles to such as, thus very aggressively and deviously vilified
continuously these days in world arena.
Well that how it reads in my book.
Welcomed to rejected.
cheers
I suppose in your book, whiten, China’s one-child policy and forced abortions did NOTHING to reduce the world’s population, and allowing infected people in Wuhan to travel anywhere in the world EXCEPT other places in China did nothing to cause the pandemic and resulting economic depression the world is currently experiencing. Are you blind or do you just prefer to walk around with your eyes closed?
The Russians fly bombers up to the edge of US air defenses to show us how much they love us.
Russia is, and has always been a hostile imperialist power. Hostis Humani Generis, Just ask the Chechens, or the Georgians, or the Ukrainians.
“The Russians fly bombers up to the edge of US air defenses to show us how much they love us.”
A little fun quiz for you.
During the Cold War both sides engaged in this type of activity.
After the Soviet collapse in 1990 the Russians had to stop their threatening flights because they were broke.
However in 2012 a Putin reinvigorated Russia resumed their flights after an over 20 year break.
Now for the fun quiz question!!!
What year did the US resume its flights?
The answer is the US never resumed their flights.
Well actually it’s a trick question because they never stopped their flight threatening Russian air defences during the 20+ years the Russians stopped theirs. So the real question should be – who is threatening who and who is the imperialist power?
Anyone who opposes Putin’s imperial ambitions is an enemy of Russia.
have to agree on that,
nasty russians putting their country right near all the usa/nato misiles pointing that way not to iran etc
tsk tsk
as for the mannikin, reckon moore can sort that lil turd out
Commies hate Russia because Russia kicked out the commies.
Also, because while Putin is a traditionalist and nationalist. He doesn’t want what the left are pushing.
It’s the same reason they’ve started to attack Xi, after spending years trying to cozy-up to him. He refused to take the ticket and sell out to the globalist left.
Neither of them are nice guys. But they’re better for their people than many of the alternatives, and therefore the globalists want to destroy them.
Putin and Xi are terrible for their subject peoples, but they’re great at playing the nationalist schtick.
Putin has plundered Russia to the tune of at least $200 billion USD, squirreled away in Panama, the Caymans and Switzerland. He’s the richest robber in the world.
Without his nationalist grandstanding, Russia wouldn’t be sanctioned and could benefit from joining the world trading nations as a law-abiding partner rather than pirate, as with his fellow bandit Xi, whi at least managed to build a mercantile economy on debt and theft.
thats funny
how much you reckon bush clintons and others squirrelled away?
I see oh bummer prebooked a heap of holidays you folks nearly paid for on the sly
clinton foundation moved it books to canada to avoid FOI requests etc etc
if Putin wasnt where he is I doubt things wouldbe as stable and polite as they are
you dont have to like him or russia
but credit to his ability to manage so many states and peoples and do it very well
American friend been living there for many years says its way better than back home for health food and general safety and living standards.
he wont return to usa, if he leaves russia hed be finding anywhere else but usa to live.
I dont see he has reason to lie, and hes ex usa services btw
but credit to his ability to manage so many states
Huh?
Have you got a link to that?
Listen, seriously, hundreds have searched for Putin’s treasure. They search high and they search low, but nobody has yet found it. Remember that leak about the Cayman islands? All sorts of unsavoury characters had money squirreled away, but one character was missing: Putin. Funny that. And isn’t it also strange that it’s all hidden, that he doesn’t even treat himself to the odd yacht or palace? So what’s he going to do with it all after he’s dead?
I’ll file that under David Icke type conspiracy theories.
” Vincent Causey
May 6, 2020 at 4:36 am
Have you got a link to that?
Listen, seriously, hundreds have searched for Putin’s treasure. They search high and they search low, but nobody has yet found it. Remember that leak about the Cayman islands? All sorts of unsavoury characters had money squirreled away, but one character was missing: Putin. Funny that. And isn’t it also strange that it’s all hidden, that he doesn’t even treat himself to the odd yacht or palace? So what’s he going to do with it all after he’s dead?”
Vincent – don’t you know his wealth (all 600 Trillion dollars (go on – disprove it!) is secreted at the bottom of the oceans. The reason it hasn’t been stolen is that it’s hidden by all the heat from the CO2!
Now, now, Vincent, there’s no proof the lizard people are involved with Putin’s treasure. or that Putin himself is one of the lizard people 😉
Reds Under the Mouse Mat.
Are you, or have you ever been, a Russian Bot?
If you are looking for the enemies of the United States, you do not need to look outside the United States.
Same goes for any western nation.
Russia has it’s own self interests and it has the interests of its leader for power. If Putin had his country’s interest in mind he would seek greater economic alliance with Europe and the West. That’s difficult while remaining undemocratic. Russia should stop pretending it is a major power.
Hard to say who is the bigger [jerk]. Mann or Moore? It’s a tosser.
Michael Moore has more biomass. If we could put a tap on him, he could supply some btu’s to run a fat to energy plant. Now there is an idea for green energy…
He’s also good for a large supply of natural gas 😉
they are both tossers (at least thats the phrase in my country)
I give it to Mann by a long way. You dont see Moore behaving like Mann in the media and in the legal system.
Yea, but have you ever watched M Moore elbowing his way thru the buffet line?
When it was necessary to slay the Medieval Warm Period, Dr. Mann stepped up and did the job. He has been richly rewarded. I’m not even convinced he believes his own crap. Anyway, it’s the best science money can buy, or something like that.
Michael Moore produces this work that he has to know will be a hard sell. It could even be a career wrecker. He releases it anyway because, apparently, he believes in what he’s found.
You may not like what Michael Moore stands for but, as far as I can tell, he puts his money where his mouth is, even if it costs him dearly.
I was really surprised when I saw Moore had released the film. Some of his others were just plain fake climate change fiascos.
This one was different because he actually showed a lot of the lies behind the climate change hoax. And he didn’t fake it. He showed that “renewable” energy simply isn’t what it is touted to be. None of the technologies can’ actually be economic and grid friendly.
The last third or so did kind of fall back into climate propaganda but didn’t negate the main message of the film.
How is it gonna cost him?
He had an audience on the Left and now folks on the right will want to see his latest film.
The pendulum will swing back in his next “documentary”.
And all the while he gets great publicity for taking a supposed “contrary stance”!
It’s a toss-up. Both are tossers.
Hard to say who is the bigger [jerk]. Mann or Moore? Both are tossers.
Fixed that for you 😀
He, Mann isn’t a bit crazy ?
He suffers from persecution mania may be ?
Suffers badly from narcissism I think. Hence the constant need to pull others down and try to inflict pain to feel good. Just my opinon formed from the pattern repeating in his behaviour. He must be a joy to work with.
“Suffers badly from narcissism I think.”
That is proven. Just read his testimony before congress:
“I am a Fellow of numerous scientific societies. I was awarded the Hans Oeschger Medal of the European Geophysical Union in 2012 and received the Friend of the Planet Award from the National Center for Science Education in 2014. I received the Stephen H. Schneider Award for Outstanding Climate Science Communication in 2017, the Award for Public Engagement with Science from the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 2018 and the Climate Communication Prize from the American Geophysical Union in 2018. This year I received the Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement. I have authored more than 200 publications, and four books.”*
Has this anything to do with evidence? Does it matter if he is just plain wrong? That’s all appealing to authority fallacy. Worthless.
* https://michaelmann.net/content/oral-opening-statement-michael-mann-testimony-us-house-oversight-committee-hearing-climate
Nothing of an academic, scientific or research nature that I can see; just “PR” awards (participation trophies?):
o Hans Oeschger Medal of the European Geophysical Union in 2012
o Friend of the Planet Award from the National Center for Science Education in 2014
o Stephen H. Schneider Award for Outstanding Climate Science Communication in 2017
o Award for Public Engagement with Science from the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 2018
o Climate Communication Prize from the American Geophysical Union in 2018
o Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement [2020]
“Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement [2020]”
What did he do to win that; throw his dirty underwear in the laundry hamper instead of on the floor?
It is telling that the awards he boasts of are for communication and not science. That goes a long way in explaining why he spends his time in activism and advocacy and not scientific research.
_Jim – you left out the 2019 Praxis Award in Professional Ethics, awarded to Michael Mann in April last year by Villanova University, Pa. The Praxis Award is given to a professional or academic who exemplifies the highest ethical ideals of their profession or who has contributed to professional ethics scholarship.
Dr Mann has a lot to be proud of, but it might be a good idea if someone introduced him to an ethic one day, so that he knew what it looked like.
They’re “best liar” awards.
He may well suffer from that Krishna, but its a symptom of his greater problem, Noble cause syndrome…
His bunker mentality is also a symptom.
I guess the old adage of “It takes one to know one” applies here!
Put the popcorn in the microwave, get your favorite beverage out of the fridge and sit back and enjoy this. It should be quite enjoyable.
Michael Mann is a Russian Stooge, having long ago been hijacked by Marxist ideology, assisting in the long march through the academic institutions of scientific ethics. He has single handedly done more to disgrace climate science than anyone alive. I have1000x more respect for Russian scientists than mickey Mann.
But it is nice to see them throwing sticks and stones at each other. This is hopefully the demise and unravelling of the climate hostage extortion led by Mann et al. There is no more money for this climate scam anyway after the trillions just spent on the Wuhan/Chinese virus.
Mann could not have done what he did without massive, active, and loudly outspoken support from his peers — erstwhile scientists.
Yes indeed! I would say that Mann is the leader of the public face of all the scientists (climate and non climate) that support this institutionalized climate extortion crap. There are many, many credible scientists that do not support this non scientific crap, but it doesn’t do their present careers any good to dissent from the peer pressure of consensus science, and hence they are silenced, fired and ignored. The tide will turn as it always does since science is supposed to be self correcting over longer time frames. Michael Mann et al, will be viewed in the future as a pariah activist scientists, having set back the numerous climate sciences and public policy by decades.
Dr. Pat got it right with his propagation of errors work. But almost no one listened. Or understood. One day they will.
Those that oppose fracking, are sometimes financed by Russians, wanting to destroy US oil success.
But we’ve had Climategate. We’ve seen his emails.
We know he hides inconvenient truths to push his agenda. We know he’s a pastiche of a scientist.
How can Mann’s reputation be harmed any further? He was exposed decades ago.
Mr. Courtney:
How is your dad doing?
Praying for him.
Janice
He’s OK. Obviously very vulnerable and so stuck at home. His only human contact being the lady who brings him his food and the telephone.
But as he say, his life expectancy is zero and has been for a few years now.
So that’s winning.
Thank you for letting me know. I will continue to remember him in my prayers. Please tell him, “Hello” from me.
His positive attitude reminds me of an interview I saw on TV with an actor (forget who) who was asked about his dad who was living with a similarly dire diagnosis.
Host: And how is your dad doing these days?
Actor: You know, I go to see Dad and I’ll ask him, “How are you doing today?” And he always says, “I feel great. I have one more day.”
Take care,
Janice
BTW, I’m surprised no-one followed up on my comment. As I’m pointing out something for more interesting Reds under the Bed scares.
This is not about the Russians. No Russians are required to access Mann’s emails. We have had Climategate.
Moore is threatening to make a follow up documentary on Climategate.
Now that would be shocking to the cast host of honest people who are genuinely concerned about the environment and defending science but have been told that CAGW scepticism is akin to anti-vaxxers.
1) “Reds under the beds” wasn’t just a scare. There really were communist elements in the country at the time. Still are. But then as a socialist/communist yourself, you already know that but prefer to push the myth that it was just “a scare”.
2) I hope Moore does do a follow-up on Climategate as long as it’s an honest look at it and not a PR piece brushing it aside in order to push the CAGW agenda. Given Moore’s track record, however, I don’t hold out much hope (even this latest doco tries to push the agenda even as it points out the problems with renewables).
Credit for ‘Planet of the Humans’ goes to Jeff Gibbs. Too bad for Mann, Gore and rest.
I fact checked the biomass plant numbers. Gibbs got it right.
http://biomassmagazine.com/plants/listplants/biomass/US/Operational
That was the biggest eye opener for me , I thought Drax buring US forests was an anomaly of badly thought out policy. I did not realise that it was an entire industry.
Much indebted to Moore and Gibbs for exposing the full extent of this stupidity and the hypocrisy of the eco-fascists on this issue.
Gregg,
I had no idea this was going on. Several of those biomass power plants are burning old railroad ties.
Deforestation? Green energy?
Let this be the final nail in the coffin of the climate crisis crowd.
I had no idea of the extent either. Railway sleepers (as they’re called in the UK) were covered in creosote or something similar to prevent rotting. Not to mention the various nastinesses that dripped onto them in the course of their lives!
And we’re burning those? In preference to gas? And pretending that’s environmentally sane? Let alone environmentally friendly!
Newminster,
The film shows one plant adding shredded tire chips to the wood chips. As we all know, green forest trees don’t burn well. smh
I thought it funny that they named the company after the villain in Moonraker, trying to wipe out the human race so he could reseed the earth with perfect people.
Which is pretty much the agenda of the left and the GND.
It’s named after the nearby Yorkshire village which was noted in the Domesday Book in 1086….
That’s an overview of biomass plants in Germany:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Biomassekraftwerken_in_Deutschland
Credit for ‘Planet of the Humans’ goes to Jeff Gibbs. Too bad for Mann, Gore and rest.
I fact checked the biomass plant numbers. Gibbs got it right.
http://biomassmagazine.com/plants/listplants/biomass/US/Operational
Sorry for the double post.
Most biomass fuel is used in the Third World as the only source of energy for heating and cooking and has serious health effects.
Chris,
I didn’t even know what biomass was until I watched the documentary. The segment on biomass is towards the end of the film, several of these power plants are burning old railroad ties.
But it’s ‘green energy’.
It is interesting that the Greens call “Municipal solid waste” biofuel.
Municipal solid waste is not biofuel. If words have meaning.
The category ‘wood chips’ should be changed to forests cut down.
I see wood chips also includes railway ties which are hazardous waste as the ties were treated with cresole.
The whole mess is just a scam.
CFACT; https://www.cfact.org/2020/05/05/renewables-scams-on-the-ropes/?fbclid=IwAR3jtIf_xmA6heYYaEdgJcc_fbfLomM9-a8y3zfChK9cR0dW8nIMrojaO-c
Man O’ Mann….
You sometimes just have to laugh at stupid.
In the great drawing of life it is thought that everyone gets something, physical?, mental?, spiritual?, bravery?, selflessness?, kindness?, etc. etc. Though I do not believe in luck, perhaps Michael Moore, in this case, was just lucky and was right for the first time in his life but I would bet more on the possibility that it is one more case of attention seeking on his part. Neither of these two show any signs of positive attributes.
Show us yer math then Mickey Mann.
Oooooh errr …. the dog ate my homework
Moore like Mo vs Curly
Michael Moore advocates for more Oil & Gas in Canada and US.
If this is what Putin’s Russia wants, … great for us! But I fail to see how this benefits Russia.
Mann is a terrible conspiracy theorist, among many other things.
Typical Paranoid Schizo-phanatic with delusions of grandeur
Well, as Dean Wormer said, “Fat and stupid is no way to go through life.”
As I keep saying.
If we who doubt had invented The Mann as an act of fiction,no one would have believed us.
Gilbert and Sullivan spring to mind every time The Mann elbows his ugly way in front of a microphone.
It is the spokesman of choice for Team IPCC UN…
He looks real good on them.
The cannibal feast in full swing…
Heretic! Apostate! We’d burn you at the stake but it’d release too much CO2, but you just wait till we get enough money donated to buy the carbon offset credits (rubs hands together evilly). Link to our Burn Moore GoFundMe page will be forthcoming soon!
Jeez louise. The AGW cultists are acting just like usual, insults, insinuations, fact free accusations, threats. How dare someone come along and try to derail the gravy train.
yeah well how long till mannikins pension/retirements due?
bit on an incentive?
as well as afterward stepping into old boys/ best buds advisory roles consultancy at obscene fees etc
like the goracle
Russia listening to Mikey Mannish? Why? Are they short on lame jokes? Do they want to revive Lysenko’s version of “Science” where facts are whatever you want them to be as long as the money comes and no matter how many suffer or die. The number of things this fool seems to believe that defy logic is amazing. Add to the list the belief that Russia cares a rats butt what Mikey thinks, says believes or lies about.
So pathetic when they have to channel Rachael Maddow “Russia, Russia, Russia”. Ah
he should have been fired for exaggerated modelling that led to mass hysteria and the destruction of many of the world’s economies, but this will suffice for now:
6 May: Daily Mail: Imperial College scientist Neil Ferguson QUITS his role as top government advisor after ‘breaking lockdown to see his married lover’ despite warning Boris Johnson that 500,000 Britons would DIE if the strict rules were not enforced
•Professor Neil Ferguson, 51, previously warned UK could see 500,000 deaths if it didn’t implement lockdown
•His advice, through a report he helped produce at Imperial College, is thought to have led to the lockdown
•Prof Ferguson has been a vocal supporter of lockdown, continually telling the public to follow the restrictions
•However, he has now admitted he allowed his married lover to travel across London to visit him at least twice
•Antonia Staats, 38, lives with her husband, in his 30s, and two children in a £1.9 million house in south London
By Danyal Hussain
Prof Ferguson is thought to have met Ms Staat’s husband and they share an interest in data science, according to a friend. He is said to have met Ms Staats through the online dating site OkCupid more than a year ago…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8289921/Scientist-advice-led-lockdown-QUITS-breaking-restrictions-meet-married-lover.html
3 Apr: Nature: Special report: The simulations driving the world’s response to COVID-19
How epidemiologists rushed to model the coronavirus pandemic.
by David Adam
An earlier version of the Imperial (College London/Neil Ferguson) model, for instance, estimated that SARS-CoV-2 would be about as severe as influenza in necessitating the hospitalization of those infected. That turned out to be incorrect…
The true performance of simulations in this pandemic might become clear only months or years from now…
“Forecasts made during an outbreak are rarely investigated during or after the event for their accuracy, and only recently have forecasters begun to make results, code, models and data available for retrospective analysis,” (John Edmunds, who is a modeller at the LSHTM) and his team noted last year in a paper6 that assessed the performance of forecasts made in a 2014–15 Ebola outbreak in Sierra Leone…
Media reports have suggested that an update to the Imperial team’s model in early March was a critical factor in jolting the UK government into changing its policy on the pandemic. The researchers initially estimated that 15% of hospital cases would need to be treated in an intensive-care unit (ICU), but then updated that to 30%, a figure used in the first public release of their work on 16 March…
Ferguson says the significance of the model update might have been exaggerated…
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01003-6
25 Apr: Business Insider: How ‘Professor Lockdown’ helped save tens of thousands of lives worldwide — and carried COVID-19 into Downing Street
by Bill Bostock
Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, authored a paper that prompted the UK to scrap its coronavirus strategy.
Ferguson’s team warned Boris Johnson that the quest for “herd immunity” could cost 510,000 lives, prompting an abrupt U-turn.
His simulations have been influential in other countries as well, cited by authorities in the US, Germany, and France…
On March 23, the UK scrapped “herd immunity” in favor of a suppression strategy, and the country made preparations for weeks of lockdown. Ferguson’s study was responsible…
The White House received the paper two days before it was made public…
Scientists have piled in to criticize Ferguson’s paper in less uncertain terms.
“Some of the major assumptions and estimates that are built in the calculations seem to be substantially inflated,” John Ioannidis, a professor of disease prevention from Stanford University, told The Telegraph…
https://www.businessinsider.com/neil-ferguson-transformed-uk-covid-response-oxford-challenge-imperial-model-2020-4?r=AU&IR=T
Such “models” are more accurately termed ‘statistical conjectures.’
Maybe if Ferguson had said, ‘my statistical conjecture is that blah, blah, blah,’ the politicians and policy-makers would have known to be more judicious in its application.
See the Blaze story and the UnHerd video interview with Michael Levitt here.
British politicians are generally credulous, innumerate and frequently rather dim (e.g. Diane Abbott).
I know Moore is very liberal but I wonder what he’s thinking about how his side has been treating him?
Millionaire Micheal Moore is probably crying all the way to the bank.
Seriously, I’ve often wondered whether he was a right-winger making movies to take some easy money from the left.
Pass the popcorn. The clown show is here.
It is awesome watching these two.
If anyone thought Mann had some intelligence in there let that belief be gone!
Another weak, lame, attempt at discrediting the MM movie below; to quote another poster at that site: “This article is one long, lazy and repetitive cheap shot. It fails to address huge points in the [MM] movie.”
https://ketanjoshi.co/2020/04/24/planet-of-the-humans-a-reheated-mess-of-lazy-old-myths/
With apologies to Robert Burns, its yet another example of Mann’s inhumanity to (a fellow) man….