Monday Mirthiness – double feature.

There’s a relatively famous cartoon about climate that gets used on social media a lot, drawn by Joel Pett. You’ll likely recognize it.

Josh has given it a “treatment”:

In other news:

72 thoughts on “Monday Mirthiness – double feature.

  1. Josh,
    A perfect parody – No need to apologize to Joel Pett!
    “Josh shoots… He scores!!!”

    • How is that different from the first cartoon? And what was wrong with the fossil-fuel world?

    • What if it’s a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?

      That’s not even logical. Of course we want a better world. Who would vote for a worse world?

      IMHO, Josh nails the problem. Just because someone says they want to create a better world, it doesn’t mean they actually can. Marx proposed a recipe for a better world. We all know how that worked out every time it’s been tried. It blows my mind that there are still any people holding their heads high and calling themselves Marxists, and yet they’re all over our colleges and universities.

      When some activist, David Suzuki, MADD, Nancy Reagan, whoever, proposes a formula for a better world we should take their advice with a grain of salt, a very large grain of salt, enough to bury them in fact.

      History is littered with failed utopias. You’d think folks would learn, but no, they just have to try it for themselves.

    • When we create better people, we will create a better world. Steps to create better people:
      1. Improve yourself
      2. See step #1

      • I have to step in to support that, Paul. Essentially capitalism and communism promise the same thing – a better material existence with more security than before. The claim is that with the correct economic relationships, better people result. In effect it is a claim that good people are the products of good economics.

        This has never been true. A good economy is the result of good people being trustworthy and productive. Trustworthiness, the foundation of all virtue, and diligence are inculcated in the person, not the economy. The quality of the economy is what you get from the sum of the people’s natures and inclinations.

        A better world starts with better people. The Big Question is how to create better people.

  2. Worth mentioning that the same types of logic including the precautionary principle may be affecting some of the global response to CoVID. This virus didn’t suddenly raise the standards of academic thought, erase the motivation to be a “science star” or change the incentives that drive the publication and pro population of really bad science.
    CoVID is a very real threat and no-one can claim to know all the best ways to contain it but we need to acknowledge what we don’t know, make careful balanced decisions weighing both potential benefit and costs (i.e. not the precautionary principle) and keep in mind that while policies designed to reduce spread of the virus may well prevent deaths from CoVID, they can just as easily cause other harm and other deaths if not carefully considered.
    I do love the gullibility imbedded in the first cartoon as if it really had any resemblance to what is happening in the progressive green movement. Josh is the winner by a knock-out.

    • Maybe I’m being cynical but … The thing that seems to propel a disease into prominence is when it starts affecting medical doctors. As many people have pointed out, this disease would be ignored if it affected only old people. As Roy Spencer pointed out, excess fatalities may actually have decreased. Young people have little chance of serious illness from this disease but many health care workers, doctors included, have succumbed.

      The conversations I had with the medical community during SARS revolved around the fact that it affected medical doctors. That’s what made it different from the usual annual influenza.

      • I think you have a point. I was accused of being nasty and cynical during the AIDS panic back in the 80s- I kept pointing out that we were hearing about it day and night because it was disproportionately affecting the luvvies in the media. They were absolutely petrified that their lifestyles were under threat and all we heard was, ‘We must do something! Raise funds! Do research and stuff to save us!’ Meanwhile, cancer kept on destroying lives indiscriminately but of course, that mostly affected us ordinary types so it got shoved to one side.

        • Except Reagan was called names for closing bathhouses in California the very place where AIDS was being spread. And then we had to talk in euphemisms like “exchange bodily fluid” instead of plain language.

          So they really don’t want something done they want what they say done.

  3. Love it
    I will buy Josh two beers, since i quit 5 years ago due to allergies, he can have one for me.

  4. By far the biggest mistake made was not to immediately close all air travel to the USA as soon as we heard about this virus spreading fast. We did close eventually but somewhat late.

    I myself made the mistake of not wanting to close borders at first, as I incorrectly guessed the virus would be just like SARS and fizzle out. Though many people early on called for closing the border, in hindsight they were right.

    The best medicine is prevention.

    Hopefully next time we will be more prepared and we have certain laws in place that spell out when to close the border. If we have laws and policy in place then that gets around being called xenophobic.

    • I totally agree. It is surreal how much damage this event is going to have.

      If the CDC had had immediate access to the real Chinese data, this problem would never have happened.

      One of the reasons we did not close the air flight into the US and other developed countries, is China at first hid the fact that the virus spread very, very easily from person to person. We initially thought the virus only spread from animal to person.

    • “Though many people early on called for closing the border, in hindsight they were right.”

      Who called for it other than Trump?

      • And they called him a moron for it

        And can’t be bothered to correct themselves or apologize

        • They were calling him many other derogatory terms as well.

          Now RI has the national guard on the state borders and police with NG are going to go house to house.

      • Tom,

        I saw saw people calling for it in comment boards on internet, but didn’t see media or politicians calling for it.

        • “I saw saw people calling for it in comment boards on internet, but didn’t see media or politicians calling for it.”

          I see what you mean. I was thinking you were saying politicians other than Trump were calling for closing the borders and I couldn’t think of anyone who did that. All the politicians were criticizing Trump for wanting to close down the borders. I think Joe Biden is still against the ban on Chinese and Europeans flying into the U.S. He called Trump a racist for suggesting such a thing.

          Joe is in such bad shape, even I am feeling sorry for him. It’s painful to watch him struggle. There’s no way he could be a competent president now. Cuomo says he doesn’t want to run for president, and he may be telling the truth, so that leaves Bernie and Hillary. The Democrats have nothing to offer.

      • Tom Abbott – March 30, 2020 at 6:47 pm

        Who called for it other than Trump?

        Surprise, surprise, ……

        Trump is one of the very few politicians with great “foresight”.

        Whereas most all other politicians and government employees have great “hindsight”.

  5. Thing about CAGW is that we can mitigate. without wrecking the economy.
    assuming the alarmists are correct , (which i dont) we could build sea walls , wind farms, etc etc etc.

    With a disease that we know nothing about, that can be spreading amongst us without any alarms going off,
    it’s a totally different ball game. It cant be mitigated against
    its clearly worthy of much more attention than CAGW

  6. in the picture, i would name the girl in blue Climate Emergency instead of climate change alarmist

  7. Nothing makes people forget about a fake crisis like the appearance of a real one. Except maybe for those who are making a living off the fake one.

  8. Stevek

    So many responses whizzing around in my head to you post.

    Cornavirus would probably not have been stopped by restricting flights into any country IMHO. It is such a fast moving condition with some unique qualities, just one infected traveller could have started the ball rolling without anyone realising.

    It’s almost ‘the millennial’ virus. Our youth can carry it without symptoms, and it is highly contagious. Which in the lexicon of virus’s suggests that it’s largely harmless. Fast moving conditions usually spread themselves thin and are largely less harmful.

    And historically, virus’s affect children more than adults. This one is unique in that it does the opposite. So children can carry it unnoticed, and adults die. Fortunately we won’t be attending many children’s funerals though.

    • HotScot,

      I guess we would need to look at numbers. I’m not sure how many got it before border closed, but I agree just one person still can lead to exponential growth.

      Very strange how kids are not affected as much, yet many die of flu. Perhaps the answer to the cure could come from examining how children’s bodies respond to this virus.

    • when you think about it one infected person DID start the ball rolling. It’s just they were in China not the US

  9. The presumption is that anything they do WILL create a better world.

    They never have before.

  10. You are missing the real problem with that cartoon. The message it sends is “the things we want you to do to control climate change are all things we would want you to do anyway.” The obvious implication is that one should not believe what they say about climate change just as one does not believe the advertising claims made by a firm, since they have an incentive to say them whether or not they are true. And they are so sure of their own righteousness that it doesn’t even occur to them that that is the message they are sending.

    I point I made on my blog some years ago.

    http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/2014/11/a-revealing-cartoon.html

    • The message is Christina Figueras’ ” it does not matter if we are wrong about CO2 because we will be doing the right thing: wealth redistribution to the third world”.

      Lying and scamming everyone into supporting a naive communist redistribution which would destroy both the 1st and 3rd worlds, is her idea of doing the right thing.

      The arrogance of thinking she is “right” and thus has the right to scam the rest of the world into doing something they do not support is astounding.

  11. The “RUINABLES” in Josh’s cartoon is brilliant. I missed it the first time through.

    Stay safe and healthy, everybody.

    Regards,
    Bob

  12. Opportunistic infection

    An infection that is normally mild in a healthy individual, but which takes advantage of an ill person’s weakened immune system to move into the body, grow, spread, and cause serious illness.
    — Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine. 2008 The Gale Group, Inc.

    The novel coronavirus is a mutation that finally … “figured out” … how to take advantage of all the unhealthy people in the world. It also has taken advantage of our lack of wisdom, infecting not only compromised bodies but compromised minds in charge of directing civilization.

  13. Josh – sorry to be picky but the graph on the easel should really have had a hockey stick.

  14. Comet Atlas Cometh
    This omen of disaster the messengers of the angry gods of darkness, the uninvited harbinger of doom, in this Lord’s month of Martii, the month of the cursed Corona Virus, the comet Atlas become 4,000 times brighter, just as it did the Italian death rate become darker. As the Lord’s month of Aprilis is about to commence this menace of the Universe is about to enter the inner solar system.
    Things are going to get unprecedentedly worse than worst.
    Bring back AOC !

  15. And, when the coronavirus depressions hits, very few people will be in any way interested in investments in expensive, unreliable energy systems. Very few people will care about a calamity forecast for 2050 when their lives are collapsing in the present.

    Climate change activism has always seemed to me to have a leaven of anti-prosperity austerity. Greta just comes out and blames our fantasies of unlimited growth the problem, and apparently finds a receptive audience for that kind of thing. Many people are attracted to struggle and austerity, and distrust anything that increases ease and leisure as essentially decadent.

    • “Very few people will care about a calamity forecast for 2050 when their lives are collapsing in the present.”

      Think about the people in the poor countries. In the U.S. we have unemployment insurance and we have the government spending Trillions of dollars to keep money in Americans pockets in order to keep the economy going. But the poor nations have none of this. If you lose your job in Bangladesh, you are out of luck. Noone is coming to your rescue. Their economies probably will collapse to a certain extent as a result. And political turmoil is not out of the question.

  16. There’s a feature in the press about Sweden’s ‘very different’ approach to the Covid-19 pandemic to most other major democracies (and China)..
    Basically, everyone is pretty much going about their normal business – restaurants and bars are open; no specific ‘social distancing’ etc, etc – but those identified with the virus are isolated.

    However – I’m astonished that there seems to be a serious shortcoming in the Swedish government’s decision – making process…

    HAVEN’T THEY ASKED GRETA…??

  17. What if….

    Since so many people are sheltering in place around the nation:

    If the number of auto fatalities decreases to less than fatalities by COVID
    would COVID be considered beneficial or would it be better that more
    people died in cars?

    Granted, if people were driving around spreading the disease that would be worse.

    • What happens when people later do double hours to partially make up for the lost activity? How many exhausted workers will there be? How many accidents, incl. car accidents?

  18. Now imagine what would happen if many workers of a very big power plant were sick at the same time…

    Trump’s EPA had to relax reporting rules for potentially polluting industries. Can nuclear plants run without people running around tracking any leak of chemicals incl. those that are radioactive?

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