EU Green Leader Explains Climate Change and Democracy, and Why Chinese People should Accept Their Place

Reframing in Action

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Valentin Dupouey, head of communications for the European Greens, a pan-European federation of green parties, a major overhaul of Democracy is required to force acceptance of the economic de-growth required to address the climate crisis.

He also thinks its important to explain to China that because of climate change, “a Chinese average citizenwill never be able to reach the material lifestyle of a French minimum-wage worker.

DEMOCRACY NEEDS A COPERNICAN REVOLUTION TO SURVIVE CLIMATE CHANGE 

22 March, by  Valentin Dupouey

Democracy and climate change: framing the question and setting a discussion ground

I believe this broad framework boils down to three core questions:

1) Can democratic infrastructures react quickly enough to prevent the climate meltdown and societal collapse foreseen by scientists?

2) Can democracy, human rights and the rule of law survive the climate meltdown if it can’t prevent it?

And if, as I increasingly believe, the only solution will be a half-planned, half-forced degrowth:

3) Can democracy accompany degrowth and its societal impacts?

Scenario 2: Half-forced, half-controlled degrowth

The only assumption needed here is the belief that decoupling cannot happen or will not happen fast enough – which in my opinion is much more likely. We also need to accept that continuous growth in the extraction of fossil energy is neither desirable (because of the climate meltdown) nor even physically possible; there is increasing evidence showing that we are approaching the peak extraction of oil, and that we could be reaching it for other fossil fuels soon.

Controlled degrowth means being able to say to voters at the next electoral cycle: “If we want to reduce our CO2 emissions, we need to decrease our GDP. Therefore, we won’t promise you more. We will need to decide which needs and desires we want to live without first and which ones we want to safeguard. You can’t have a starter, main dish and dessert anymore. It’s either/or. Which one do you want to keep?”

It is unspeakable at the level of one country but it is even more unthinkable on a global scale. We need to be able to tell a French minimum-wage worker that his lifestyle is not compatible with the planet’s boundaries, and we need to be able to say to a Chinese average citizen that he will never be able to reach the material lifestyle of a French minimum-wage worker.

Read more: https://www.thenewfederalist.eu/democracy-needs-a-copernican-revolution-to-survive-climate-change?lang=fr

I’m glad the European greens put their head of communications on the case, a person with inferior communication skills might have made a total mess of the topic of climate rationing, by producing a stream thoughtless bombastic statements of breathtaking arrogance and insensitivity.

I don’t know why a European like Dupouey thinks decoupling CO2 from cheap energy is such a problem. France, a leading member of the EU, is also the world leader in decoupling; the French successfully decoupled economic growth from CO2 emissions in the 1970s, when they replaced most of their coal plants with nuclear power plants.

If the rest of the world copied the 1970s French nuclear program, global CO2 emissions would plummet by at least 25%, likely a lot more.

As for Dupouey’s comments about Chinese workers needing to understand their position in life, that place being somewhere below the living standards of French workers, I hope Dupouey is considering a personal visit to the Middle Kingdom, explain his thinking to Chinese workers. I’m sure they would be very moved by his words.

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RoHa
March 23, 2020 9:17 pm

Democracy should be abolished altogether, and I should be raised to the position of Emperor.

RoHa
March 23, 2020 9:23 pm

“we need to be able to say to a Chinese average citizen that he will never be able to reach the material lifestyle of a French minimum-wage worker.”

And the average Chinese citizen will say “Oh, deary me. That’s a bit of a disappointment. Ah, well, I’ll just have to try to be born French in my next incarnation.”

Patrick MJD
Reply to  RoHa
March 24, 2020 12:17 am

Really? That’s like being re-born as Bosley’s jockstrap!

Kiwi Gary
March 23, 2020 9:47 pm

I listened to a most interesting calculation recently on the commercial expectation of the Green New Deal and the EU equivalent zero-carbon bill. US GDP per head per annum in calculated to be a bit over $300.00 A similar calculation for the major EU countries put them all in the third-quater of the 1800’s.

I wonder how we could start a movement demanding the the Green leaders be transported into a wilderness area with only what was available in 1860, and have them show the rest of us, the deplorables, how to get by. Absolutely nothing post-1860 to be allowed, although, if they set up viable businesses, they could trade with the outside world for other 1860-level goods.

After all, leaders are there to lead, and show example.

Alba
March 24, 2020 4:58 am

“We will need to decide which needs and desires we want to live without first and which ones we want to safeguard. You can’t have a starter, main dish and dessert anymore.”
It would be interesting to spend a day in the company of Mr Dupouey to see which of his needs and desires he has chosen to live without. And then go with him to wherever he goes to eat and see which courses he has eliminated from his meals.
“We need to be able to tell a French minimum-wage worker that his lifestyle is not compatible with the planet’s boundaries”
How much does Mr Dupouey earn in a year and what does he do with his excess? (The difference between the French minimum wage and what he earns).

Reply to  Alba
March 24, 2020 5:18 am

re “We will need to decide which needs and desires we want to live without first and which ones we want to safeguard. You can’t have a starter, main dish and dessert anymore.”

I’ve got a ‘wild’ one (question) for Mr Dupouey – where does s e x (more the act than the gender, but both for the purposes of discussion) fall on that spectrum of ‘needs and wants’? And will he propose the ‘one-child China model’? AND what s e x will be selected for that child?

mmontgomery
March 25, 2020 4:20 pm

Activists and Experts do not equate to wisdom and good leadership or policies. These propagandists and their followers are led around by the nose with shallow fallacies of feel-good moral superiority and appeal to authority.

Any socialist agenda like this better hope for some measure of positive GDP to fund and maintain their Master Plan.

Idiots.