Bloomberg: “Extinction Rebellion Is Right to Target London”

Extinction Rebellion, ‘swarming roadblocks’. DAVID HOLT [CC BY 2.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Bloomberg, despite obvious indications Londoners are fed up, London hasn’t tried hard enough to reduce CO2 emissions to earn a pass from further Extinction Rebellion disruption.

Extinction Rebellion Is Right to Target London
Andrea Leadsom shouldn’t be so complacent about the U.K.’s performance on climate change. The recent data have been troubling. 

By Lara Williams
18 October 2019, 16:30 GMT+10

London’s Extinction Rebellion, the undeniably effective local offshoot of the global environmental protest group, has been out in force again this week, shutting down streets in the financial district and disrupting flights from City Airport. Its so-called Autumn Uprising has led to more than 1,600 arrests, and provoked some very angry commuters. People from Greta Thunberg to Stanley Johnson, the British prime minister’s dad, have lent their support.

This year the U.K. became the first major economy to legislate a commitment to net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. It has also made great strides in the past few decades in slashing carbon emissions — by 42% since 1990.

These are welcome developments, but the future is starting to look a little dim. The government’s own projections have the U.K. missing its 2023 and 2028 carbon budgets (the name for its emissions targets) by quite a margin, as the chart below shows. These targets weren’t even aimed at getting to net-zero emissions by 2050 (the U.K. only had an 80% reduction in mind when they were set), so that hardly bodes well.

While this stalling on climate action is no doubt a symptom of a government distracted by Brexit, that’s no excuse. The U.K. is hosting the UN climate summit next year and if it’s serious about being a leader on the environment, it needs to make a success of it. Overshooting legally-binding carbon budgets doesn’t set a great example. 

You may not agree with their tactics, but it’s hard to argue that Extinction Rebellion should be rabble-rousing somewhere else.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-18/extinction-rebellion-is-right-to-protest-climate-action-in-london

In Britain the green movement has won. Britain has a Conservative government which seems genuinely committed to serious investment in renewables.

Britain has unequivocally committed to dismantling their industrial age fossil fuel energy infrastructure, even though the new green infrastructure which is meant to replace fossil fuel hasn’t been built yet.

But none of this is enough. The green movement’s response to this overwhelming victory is to upset ordinary people, and to insult what is likely the greenest government the world has ever seen, for not trying hard enough.

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79 thoughts on “Bloomberg: “Extinction Rebellion Is Right to Target London”

  1. Europe continues its death cult spiral. We need to hold on in the US long enough for their Venezuela moment and for the millenials to grow up.

    Be afraid.

  2. With regard to their reference to the carbon budget,

    {“The government’s own projections have the U.K. missing its 2023 and 2028 carbon budgets”},

    I would like to point out that there are some very serious flaws in carbon budget mathematics that should be taken into account in their evaluation. Briefly, these assessments are not reliable and no nation should subject its economic future to commitments based on them. Pls see

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/09/21/boondoggle/

  3. I’m still of the opinion that football (that’s soccer to us Yanks) match should be scheduled between ManU and Liverpool at Wembley Stadium on every weekend of a planned XR protest.

    Let XR protestors see what happens when they try to stop a tube, train, or bus with a street full of drunk Liverpool FC fans.

      • XR are a bunch of female genitalia. The look on that XR soycialists’s face as he was being pulled from the top of the train – the look of fear that his hollow, obnoxious virtue signaling could actually get him hurt – was quite entertaining.

        • And that was after he attempted to kick to prospective pullee in the face. The Xtra Rubbish must have been in fear of his life.

          • They should have mobbed up on him and put him in the hospital. The remainder of their half witted ilk might then think twice before disrupting other peoples lives and livelihoods

    • Might be easier to get XR to target the football matches, given their intellect (or rather, lack thereof). Just point out that the matches generate huge carbon footprints and produces nothing of value for society. Don’t fail to mention the huge publicity they would generate.

      Then watch what happens when the two groups clash.

  4. “Overshooting legally-binding carbon budgets doesn’t set a great example. ”

    The Paris Agreement is not binding on anyone.

    • Yes, lee, Obama tried mightily to make Paris binding, totalitarian that he is, bless his heart. He couldn’t get anyone else to go along with that.

      • Obummer actually tried very hard (and succeeded) in making sure the Paris agreement wasn’t binding. It was absolutely essential, because if it was binding, he had to go through the Senate to get the treaty ratified. This is why so much of his legacy has now fallen apart, because none of it could get through the Senate, he did it by executive fiat, which is easily reversed by the subsequent executive.

    • I was also given to understand that the targets enshrined in UK legislation are at the discretion of one of the UK ministers, such that they can be altered at will.
      This will, of course have to be done by some government at some point because it is simply not possible to go “zero” for probably hundreds of years until we are 100% nuclear.

      • I am in the UK this season, at a university. In this setting it is absolutely unacceptable to speak against climate change as an inevitable catastrophe. Time will need to pass, winters will be cold, and at most slow warming will occur despite China/India/Others continuing to pump CO2 into the air for quite a while. Eventually truth will prevail and the apocalyptic sort of folks will get on to the next incipient disaster. Too bad the UK will impoverish itself in the meantime.

        I like the Brits. Good people. But misled all too easily.

    • No Paris is not legally binding but UK parliament stupidly passed their own legislation committing to reduce CO2.

  5. The problem for Green politics is that nothing is ever enough. It’s the End of the WORLD!!!

    No other issue can possibly be as important. So no compromise is ever required.

    “You have promised to turn off all energy and live in caves? That’s not enough. You are still living!”

    • It has nothing to do with the stated subject of the indictment. Otherwise they’d be going after the big emitters like China and India. It’s all about destroying western-oriented industrialized economies one country at a time. Germany has done more than any other country to try to decarbonize its economy, spending well over one-half trillion dollars, and that still isn’t enough to satisfy the accusers because it’s economy hasn’t been destroyed yet; so the recriminations continue – Germany needs to do better!

      https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1174646399624986624

  6. Every UK political party, apart from Brexit, seem rabidly pro-green. “rabidly” : a extreme, but when you endorse green policies as a fashion statement, then rabid seems very appropriate. Just about every green policy is an economic disaster. Endorsing green policies, with no prior economic, nor cost-benefit, analysis is being slave to fashion.

  7. “This year the U.K. became the first major economy to legislate a commitment to net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. It has also made great strides in the past few decades in slashing carbon emissions — by 42% since 1990.”
    Actually, that is only true on paper and in the minds of AGW/CC bureaucrats who “deemed” burning wood pellets to replace fossil fuels is carbon neutral.
    The Obvious Biomass Emissions Error
    Anthony Watts
    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/02/07/the-obvious-biomass-emissions-error/
    “…But the “sustainability” of biomass is questionable, despite the childish notion that if you grow it, it must be sustainable. Burning wood emits more carbon dioxide than burning coal.
    A 2012 study by Synapse Energy Economics estimated that the average smokestack of a US biomass plant emitted about 1.67 tons of CO2 per megawatt-hour of electricity generated, or 50 to 85 percent greater than emissions from a coal-fired plant. CO2 emissions from a biomass plant are more than triple the CO2 emissions from a natural gas facility.
    Despite these well-known numbers, neither the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) nor the European Commission (EC) count emissions from power plants that burn wood.”
    “In 2007, the EC ruled, “Biomass is considered as CO2 neutral. An emission factor of 0 shall be applied to biomass. …The idea that burning wood is “carbon neutral” originated from the 1996 Greenhouse Gas Inventory paper from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) of the United Nations. The IPCC assumed that, as trees grow, they absorb CO2 equal to the amount released when burned in a biomass-fired power plant. If correct, substitution of wood for coal would reduce net emissions. But a 2011 opinion by the European Environment Agency described a “serious error” in greenhouse gas accounting.”
    Ya think?
    “In the name of cutting CO2 emissions, four of the six Drax generating stations were converted to burn wood chips over the last seven years, at a cost of £700 million ($1 billion). Hailed as “the biggest decarbonization project in Europe,” this facility now consumes about 9 million tons of wood pellets per year, shipped 3,000 miles from the US and Canada.
    An estimated 4,600 square miles of forest are needed to feed the voracious Drax plant, with acres of forest felled each day. Replanted trees will take half a century to regrow. Despite the decarbonization claims, the CO2 emitted from the Drax plant is far greater today than when coal fuel was burned.
    Burning wood for electricity is just one more foolish policy in the “fight” against global warming.”
    Green Shock: Entire Forests Being Murdered to Produce Wood Pellet Biomass

    http://bit.ly/2OHpODJ

    I would ask, how dumb can they get but I am afraid to; they may just want to prove it with more absurdity than they’ve shown already.

  8. “London’s Extinction Rebellion, the undeniably effective local offshoot of the global environmental protest group, has been out in force again this week, shutting down streets in the financial district and disrupting flights from City Airport.”
    I’m not from the UK but from what I understand, the place where they tried it last and got their idiot pulled down from the top of the train was in a working class neighborhood, not the financial district. That’s probably one reason they did not get and exactly warm reception.

    • The majority of the population will turn against CAGW once they are seriously affected.

      In Ontario, Canada, the previous Wynne government increased the cost of electricity a bit. The backlash meant they were unceremoniously dumped after the next election. unpopular

      • However, the latest polls show Ontarians are leaning to Trudeau in the federal election now underway. Trudeau is a Wynne clone with the same operatives running the show. Trudeau is proposing to increase taxes on oil and natural gas, which will push up the cost of…..everything….yet he seems popular in the province. I just don’t get it. A lot of people really believe we can control the weather and ergo, the climate. It’s bizarre.

        • I have no clue what will happen. For a variety of reasons, polls get it wrong. link

          I remember being dispirited the night before the election when the polls showed that Hillary was going to win.

  9. “the undeniably effective local offshoot”.

    I’ll deny that. They’re not effective.

    Defective, maybe.

  10. Actually, Extinction Rebellion should not be rabble rousing anywhere.
    But if they had to rabble rouse , London is not the place.
    New Delhi and Beijing are the places.

  11. I have a question for the Europeans on this site. Excuse me for being blunt, but when did the Europeans become so economically stupid ? I’ve been watching with amazement for 3 decades as the Europeans pass anti-business fuel taxes, labor laws, increasing income taxes, VATs, increasing social welfare programs and now insane environmental legislation. The net result is always the same- fewer jobs and lower standards of living. Why do the people put up with this nonsense and even endorse it ?

  12. Try telling this to the very londoners who have rent, bills, and children to feed. The very people who live pay cheque to pay cheque! Lara williams must have a large bank account, but most people who live in london don’t. Ive lived in london my whole life, its expensive.

    • Possibly well off, but certainly a know-nothing climate communicator whose job is to weave a fabric of fantasy and lies.

  13. Bloomberg Is Too Stupid For Words

    The Truth About CO2 and Global Warming

    LONDON: In Britain, we may soon be sitting in an impoverished, dark country, with a trashed economy, incessant power cuts and dismal standard of living, caused by and idiotic dogma. The British are like a thirsty man refusing to drink from a tap because of a water shortage, while his local water company leaves hundreds of leaks unrepaired, allowing thousands of gallons to drain away each hour

    In Britain, we are enduring one of the nastiest and stupidest outbreaks of intolerant, irrational zealotry since mankind emerged from the Dark Ages, which we now seem not to have emerged from as it appears to have been lurking just below the surface, masked by a feigned veneer of scientific rationality all the time.

    I know about the fierce joy which comes from despising others only too well, and I fear it. One of the most dispiriting versions of this joy was to be seen in the painted, beatific faces of the red-robed mime-artists who are to be found on so many of the demonstrations demanding that Britain should commit economic suicide. What is going on behind those self-satisfied, ethereal expressions? They recall the Age of Inquisitions, which we once might have thought we had escaped.

    Anyone practised in debate will take on a rational opponent, but there are some causes you can’t reason with and global warming is one of them. Climate demonstrators prefer fury to logic. This is always the sign of someone who is not sure of his own case, and hates to hear his inner doubts spoken, which might explain why no climate demonstrator has ever responded to any rational argument about the climate.

    Britain recently closed and demolished Didcot ‘A’ coal-fired power station, an efficient, reasonably modern plant with a generating capacity of 1.44 gigawatts. Why? Because caution is not allowed in the great cause of cutting CO2 emissions. Consider these facts: 259 gigawatts (180 Didcots) of new coal-fired capacity are under development in China. That’s on top of the 993 gigawatts of coal-burning capacity China already possesses (690 Didcots). Britain’s whole electrical generation capacity, in all forms of power, is 85 gigawatts (59 Didcots). If we gave up using electricity entirely, it would make no difference at all to the impact of Chinese coal burning on the atmosphere – not that it ever did anyway. None. Not any. Zero. If we completely abolish all our fossil-fuel generation, including gas, it would likewise not matter in the slightest – except to us, our economy and our standard of living.

    China’s planned increase, yes, increase, in coal power is three times the size of our whole electricity-generation industry – wind, nuclear gas, and all. India is also increasing coal generation and last March reached a coal capacity of 200 gigawatts (139 Didcots), but thanks to the political and media class’s dim acceptance of shouted propaganda, and their rejection of reason, we are already damaging ourselves.

    Wind generation only functions thanks to huge subsidies, paid for by the poor, and is vulnerable to power cuts unless it is backed up by fossil fuel or nuclear generation. This is a futile, self-harming gesture and those demonstrators, ignorant and engorged with self-righteous rage, demand more futility. Britain is heading into the cold and dark, while the red-clad propaganda mob mummers, simpers, and gesticulates.

    London Underground commuters attacked two Extinction Rebellion protestors in Canning Town. They were only saved by transport staff spotting this on CCTV and swarming in to stop them being injured. What you may have missed is that at the same time other Extinction Rebellion protestors were being attacked at two other underground stations, and this time it was the Transport Police that spared them from the furious crowd.

    The Extinction Rebellion leaders saw how the public was getting an appetite for attacking their activists, and called off a planned blockade of Gatwick airport which was going to be a spectacular that closed the airport down.

    There was another Extinction Rebellion protest at Oxford Circus when the protestors erected a scaffold at a road junction which stopped the traffic in four directions. The protestors were not attacked again only because a large number of police surrounded them and kept them safe from the enraged public. There were a lot of complaints from the public about why were the police were protecting the Extinction Rebellion protestors instead of arresting them and charging them with obstruction? etc.

    Meanwhile, the sanctimonious climate hypocrites continue to live their nice comfy lives. One Extinction Rebellion leader recently took a holiday in Costa Rica which entailed flying over 11,000 miles. And have you ever heard of a billionaire like Bloomberg being inconvenienced by a climate protest or giving up their luxury lifestyle?

    • There were a lot of complaints from the public about why were the police were protecting the Extinction Rebellion protestors instead of arresting them and charging them with obstruction? etc.

      Any protest movement which has the tacit approval of the state and does not get batton changed by riot police needs to ask themselves if they really are a protest movement or someone else’s USEFUL IDIOTS.

    • You probably didn’t know this, but a good proportion of Didcot’s power generation for a while was used for powering a good deal of the voracious energy appetite of nearby Oxford & Abingdon with its car industry

      PLUS

      fuelling the nearby Culham (fusion experimental centre, which of course never produced 1Joule of fusion power), Harwell, MRC and Rutherford high energy laboratories. (https://stfc.ukri.org/about-us/where-we-work/rutherford-appleton-laboratory/), as well as the main Met office in Bracknell.

      It’s ironic that one of the so called “climate genius” to emerge from Academia in Oxford & the Met Office in particular is reponsible for the hypocrisy and the climate propaganda monster he personally spawned.
      Sir John Houghton has a phone number all plain to see in N Wales +44 1654 767939
      Why not call him up to explain why London is being brought to a halt on the back of the IPCC & Hadley crap he personally contributed to, while infusing most of British academia with lies about CO2.

      How about a few people ringing up the old codger to remind him of the spectacular consequences of his lobbying for his pseudo-christian beliefs?

      The ideas are quite viciously – post christian.
      It has tragic consequences for old people who can’t pay their electricity bills thanks to the ever increasing prices due to subsidising “renewables” which directly hike prices.
      It also had tragic consequences for whole areas of northern England & Wales which depended on the mines to keep communities alive.
      South Wales now its coal & steel industry are gone, and soon to be shuttered car industry has become a European no-hope unemployment black hole,

      I don’t recall 80+ year old academia with their giant pensions ever having to worry much about their consciences, nor paying for anything, never mind their electricity.

      Nah!
      They live in comfort, and are dead happy Britain closes down coal generation, importing the stuff from unsafe mines in Ukraine, while closing down their own coal industry.
      Hypocrisy on steroids.

  14. The image of that bearded twat kicking that commuter in the face was everything about ER in one snapshot.

    Do what we tell you, this is how much we value you.

  15. Britain has painted itself a picture of a lawless place where any extremists can preach death and destruction, draft militants for overseas training and wars, support & practice terrorism.

    The problem is that the country has more than it can hold of ideological crap while working brits are too busy to make ends meet. Those things are not linear. It gets ugly when they snap.

    Something the fabulously incompetent mayor of London must be well payoled to ignore.

  16. Until extinction rebellion conducts protests in China they are actually not serious about trying to change anything. I would think such civil disobedience would be well recieved there.

    • Not sure I agree. The XR wants totalitarian communism. China is not totally that, but close enough to accept their ruling system as okay for now. It does not matter that Chine is more and more coal fired, because this is not about global warming.

    • Carl Friss-Hansen

      Imagine the co2 output, if Africa or india built its entirety like that of any european country or like the usa? Greta is beyond uneducated! How the powers to be have used such a puppet which gets such media presence is beyond me!

      “Richer countries such as Canada and Sweden need to get down to zero emissions much faster so people in poorer countries can heighten their standard of living by building the infrastructure we have already built,”

      • The notion that Canada and Sweden couldn’t benefit from some warming is surprising. One would think AGW protesters there that have to bundle up, drink hot liquids and have to take indoor breaks to keep warm might find some irony in their actions.

        • I am lucky to live in the southern en of Sweden, but would still like warmer summers and less snow to fight with during winter.
          I suggest XT and GT take their demonstrations to Oymyakon, the coldest city on planet Earth, which ironically means “unfrozen water.” In that city the school children are not allowed outside, when the temperature falls below -50C to avoid lung damage. Here is an informative video that may give XT, GT and CAGW fanatics something to think about. The road to the Oymyakon is called the road of bones and stems from a regime they want us to surrender to:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1noUh2NrLI
          Warning to GT: You should have a grown up with you, when you see this.

  17. Boris’s latest squeeze bears some of the responsibility unfortunately, continuation of the baleful effect of Sam Cam on ‘hug a huskie’ Dave.

  18. it’s hard to argue that Extinction Rebellion should be rabble-rousing somewhere else.

    No, it’s easy. Try China.

  19. “While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.”
    Genesis 8:22

  20. “Even though the new green infrastructure which is meant to replace fossil fuel hasn’t been built yet”.

    That’s a laugh! It hasn’t even been designed or technical feasibility established, let alone costed and put to a democratic vote!

  21. Here’s an idea: take their electronic junk away from them. Arrest them, empty their wallets – whatever – but knock them off the net. All that stuff sends out signals and tracks you. Shut them off.

  22. Bah, what politicians make, politicians can undoe. When the green stuff hits the wind turbines, and voters desert the “climate saving” parties, after the true cost and discomfort of UK climate policy dawns on them, things will go back to normality. Britain simply can’t afford this madness. And the rebellion will itself be extinct, a clear sign that Evolution has some inbuilt quality control.

    • “things will go back to normality.”

      And how’s that going to happen?

      Who’s going to build the new power stations? Dig up the coal? Drill for the gas?

      It’s much easier to destroy Didcot than rebuild it. By the time Britons are shivering in the dark, it will be much too late to turn things around.

  23. Enough climate scams !

    It happens and continental media bravely avoids it. On youtube search for #Boerenactie .

    Netherlands farmers mean it. No wonder media mute and obfuscate the topic.

  24. An explanation of why Extinction Rebellion should not target Londonm and why Bloomberg are out of order, they should know better

    London Underground Recent History. How quickly we forget!

    On 7th July 2005 52 people lost their lives to Jehadi Terrorist Bombers on the Tube, travelling to work.

    On 21st July 2005 4 failed terrorist bomb attempts were made on passsengers going to work.

    On the 22nd July 2005 the Metropolitan Police shot dead an innocent Brazilian Man on the Tube as they wrongly identified him as a fugitive bomber from the day before.

    Summer 2015 anti terrorist police prevented a repeat attack on the Underground by Jehadi Bombers (to mark the 10th anniversary)

    I was on the Tube those days, but I still carried on doing my job. I would imagine the London staff at Bloomberg, at the time, were involved and knew people who got injured or killed.

    Travelling on the Tube to work is stressful, you are always on your guard, with half an eye for anything suspicious. Along come the idiots from Extinction Rebellion, (who the BBC et al encourage by the constant clamour of “climate emergency”), climb on the Trains, your instinct would only perceive this as a threat, I am surprised they only got punched and kicked, the Brazilian man got shot 3 times in the head!

    This is the fault of idiots in the media like Bloomberg, and the fault of every media luvvie and political idiot who supports XR. Including Stanley Johnson, who I always thought was a bit of an bumbling fool but now has removed all doubt!

    • Good point John, I was on the Northern Line on July 7th, though thankfully not on one of the trains which was bombed. Everyone was well paranoid after that.

  25. I have no problem accommodating extinction rebellion, provided they go the wall (for execution) first. Then we can look down at their fallen bodies and “think of it as evolution in action”.

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