Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Dr. Willie Soon; According to experts interviewed by the BBC, its important to provide parents worried about eco-doom with a safe space to talk about their darkest thoughts, even thoughts about murdering their children, otherwise they just bottle up these feelings and repress them.
The harm from worrying about climate change
By Christine Ro
10th October 2019Worry about climate change is affecting more people as global warming becomes more apparent around the world. But there is a solution that can help improve this anxiety and slow climate breakdown at the same time, writes Christine Ro.
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In one study of a programme called Carbon Conversations, which involves group discussion and activity to reduce climate impacts, half of participants said that the programme helped them face their worries about climate change. And greater emotional engagement was associated with more change in habits. This showed the linked benefits of feeling part of a community, reckoning with difficult feelings, and taking constructive measures.
This kind of research has been put into practice at New York University’s Environmental Health Clinic, which prescribes climate-friendly actions and group activities to its visitors. “There’s less space for anxiety emotionally when you take practical steps,” Hickman notes.
This is true even for extreme feelings. Hickman has counselled parents who fantasise about killing their children, out of fear of the climate-ravaged future. But she calmly points out that history is rife with examples of parents preparing to end their children’s lives in order to protect them. “If we disallow those feelings, we’re just driving them back into the unconscious,” Hickman argues.
The parents who confess these dark thoughts to her aren’t actually going to act on them, she believes, and it’s important for them to have a safe, shame-free mental space to express the depth of their anxiety. Psychotherapy and other psychology tools can help people become more comfortable with the uncertainty that is inevitable when it comes to climate change.
“One of the routes through the anxiety is to engage with your grief and your sense of loss,” Hickman says.
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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191010-how-to-beat-anxiety-about-climate-change-and-eco-awareness
History has plenty of examples of people who believed in crazy actually acting out their nightmares, like the Jonestown mass suicide, in which 605 adults fed cyanide to 304 children and then themselves, so I’m not sure I share Hickman’s optimism that the climate worrier parents he treats will never act on their murderous impulses.
Whatever happened to just saying, “Are you out of your mind!?” As an astute Chinese observer tweeted about Greta Thunberg, saying she “studied too little and thought too much,” these people study too little and emote too much. Use your brain! Obsessing over improbable or imaginary fears then talking about how it makes you feel is the opposite of healthy. It’s unhealthy.
There were times my mom wanted to kill me but it wasn’t over Co2 induced climate change. I wont go into details but it seemed like fun a the time.
Look up Orsonn Welles and the war of the worlds.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/welles-scares-nation
He only meant to do an hour or so fantasy radio broadcast. He didn’t mean for people to take it seriously.
These people have promoted the decades long fantasy of CAGW that they WANT people to take seriously.
“He [Orson Welles ] only meant to do an hour or so fantasy radio broadcast. He didn’t mean for people to take it seriously.”
That’s what he SAID afterwards, to avoid legal liability. I suspect he imagined a few people would take it seriously, but only for a few minutes. There were warnings sprinkled throughout the show.
I am not convinced that Orson Welles was as innocent as he pretended to be; in his press conference after the broadcast he struck me as being about as sincere as Captain Renault in Casablanca when he said he was shocked to find there was gambling going on in Rick’s nightclub.
Telling people that there is nothing wrong with their deepest darkest thoughts is the same as telling them that there is no reason not to act on those thoughts.
Yes, people do need to voice these thoughts because otherwise they will stay hidden and fester. However at the same time they need to be told that these thoughts are abnormal and must never be acted on.
The BBC may feel that the agony these parents are in is the fault of those who aren’t taking the climate crisis seriously enough. IOW, they are trying to shame skeptics and foot-draggers, in effect saying “look what you’re causing.”
Hickman is nothing but an enabler and a fraud, preying on folks who believe in the climate boogeyman. She should be ashamed of herself.
It has been proven over and over again that when people sharing similar beliefs come together as a group there is mutual reinforcement leading to positive feedback. It is the basis of the famous quote by Charles Mackay “Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”” It is also the basis of the saying “the madness of crowds”. To bring together as a group, people who have thoughts of harming their children and then worse, telling them such thoughts are OK and can can be talked about without shame rather than telling them in the strongest possible terms that such thoughts are utterly unwarranted and utterly shameful is, in my view, totally irresponsible and tandamount to inciting violence against children. It is significantly likely to lead to murders which would never have happened without the trigger. Incidentally, it would also utterly destroy the parents who acted out these thoughts while in a state of induced temporary madness.
This is exactly where Malthusians (the actual threat, from P. R. Ehrlich to T. Turner, etc.) want the populace to go :
– towards a massive, planetary suicide/genocide.
All the others are just usefull idiots.
All these patients will be white middle class, Liberal/Democat, Western European, Australian and N American , and mainly women. This fascinating aspect has more to do with the story than ‘climate change’ which we are still waiting for.
Asians, Latin Americans, Africans, Middle Easterners, are not doing this nutty stuff. Indeed, they see opportunities for boatloads of cash to be sent to them from these crazy ‘ Baturi/Bwana’, whose more mentally robust ancesestors forcibly colonized them. They are simply shovelling on more coal and acting out victimhood of climate change out of healthy self interest.
Eastern Europe, of course knows where this kind of stuff comes from and they resist it vigorously. They had their ‘safe places’ taken away from them 75 years ago by people with the same kind of plans that the crazies are offering.
Today’s psycotherapists are not going to be of any help to the troubled. They are, in fact, enablers of the plan.
Where are all these “more people” who are worrying about climate change?
I suspect that any claim about a large number of concerned people might be based on the brainwashing (by fossil-fuel-developed nations) of huge-population, undeveloped countries into believing that the means to their future development is a sin leading to global catastrophe. And the rest are just brainwashed to ignore their own hypocritical practices that allow them the comfort to complain about the idea of what they do every single day to further evolve the very thing that they speak against.
Is Climate Anxiety causing real world deaths ?
In the two large mass shootings you recently had in the US both perps quoted Climate concerns didn’t they ?
(feel free to correct me)
So the media would be part responsible
In the UK you could call this the media Climate-Project-Fear
(after their main one Brexit-Project-Fear )
AFAIK climate does come up in some youth suicide notes.
Today on his Radio Show told his XR guest
“You guys are all negative, why don’t you do something positive
.. like join me in a tree planting campaign”
She declined and said XR’s priority was getting Citizens Assemblies started.
BTW She said she still spends money on makeup and pets ..so hasn’t pared down her own CO2
I’m a little wary these days of ascribing motivation to mass shooters by picking out parts of their manifestos, I think they just accumulate whatever social garbage is current news to rationalise their desire to kill people.
my typo
Today on his Radio Show Nigel Farage told his XR guest
Let them eat “impossible burgers”. BTW chock up a big one for Arby’s in the “fast food” wars:
‘Arby’s Makes Meat-Based Carrot in Response to Fake-Meat Food Trend’
https://www.thedad.com/arbys-makes-meat-based-carrot-in-response-to-fake-meat-food-trend/
love the puishback;-) I dont even like turkey but I would try one
we dont have Arbys in Aus but a roast meat takeaway sounds yuuummmy
I am awaiting the first climate fear self immolation (using fossil fuel of course).
It is sometimes difficult what’s going on with BBC departments,
as some are side money making operations like BBC-Countryfile-Live-festivals
whereas others like BBC-Countryfile-Magazine have been sold off.
BBCFuture is a side operation but appears to be still owned by the BBC
As with a lot of their departments part of its mission appears to spread woke-dogma.
It operates a lot out of its Facebook page
– Oct 11 It opened a discussion on the article
– Oct 10th :Almost 400 record-high temperatures were set in the northern hemisphere over the summer
– Oct 9th : The world’s largest polar expedition has just set off for the North Pole. One of BBC Future’s journalists is on board
– Oct 8th : If around 3.5% of a population take part in nonviolent protests, political change is almost inevitable, studies have shown.
– Oct 6th : Bhutan is trying to eradicate malaria before climate change and drug resistance derail their efforts.
– Oct 5 : ‘Climigration’ is the planned relocation of entire communities to new locations further from harm from climate change
etc etc.
Stew green
The xr mob, are delusional. They haven’t mass planted trees, or cleaned any plastic. They used diesel generators in manchester, after saying its 8 grand for a solar panel, even then they would need a diesel generator, they are using them in london right now aswel. They will give up nothing, and as posted on this site a few weeks ago, George soros mite be funding them, and the co founder, a lady, said she took “medicine” on a trip and god said save the planet 😐 Also, nigel farage is brilliant, with a large following, I wonder what his followers thought when she said she uses make up and pets Lolol. She probably drinks coffee, eats european imported foods, and has a phone, tv, car and countless other fossil fuel products… But as long as we all stop using them, and give them power, the planet with be saved 😐
There are too many opportunities to use this video (1010 No Pressure):
https://youtu.be/rKgtWWCGQZ8
Another gem from the source article:
>> Yet Hickman insists that climate anxiety – like climate depression or climate rage – isn’t a pathology. It’s a reasonable and healthy response to an existential threat.
>> “I’d kind of wonder why somebody *wasn’t* feeling anxious,” she says.
That’s easy: if somebody isn’t anxious, they’re dangerously low on Vitamin Greta.
Seems to me that they are “pre-excusing” this type of behaviour, they probably expect that someone will soon kill their children because “Climate Anxiety” is a real thing now.
“My client was doing them a kindness, your honour…”
Need a laugh? ….
“as global warming becomes more apparent around the world.” The MSM never fails to make this claim even though there is “more and more” scientific evidence it isn’t occurring nor is it man-made. They keep on hoping something will come along to bolster their beliefs but time after time it never happens. Their so-called apparent reasons are not so apparent and in most cases not even relevant.
“History has plenty of examples of people who believed in crazy actually acting out their nightmares, like the Jonestown mass suicide, in which 605 adults fed cyanide to 304 children and then themselves, so I’m not sure I share Hickman’s optimism that the climate worrier parents he treats will never act on their murderous impulses.”
Equating the two is ridiculous and despicable. Climate change is not a cult. There is no single leader brainwashing people and telling people what to do. Fantasizing about doing something like killing one’s children is not healthy, of course, and that’s the point – but it’s certainly not the same as contemplating doing it. The point is that the idea of climate change causes some people extreme anxiety, and that talking about crazy ideas gets them out in the open, where they can be discussed and evaluated with others, and hopefully put to rest. “Worrying” is not the same as severe anxiety. Do you have any idea how many people, both men and women, have rape fantasies? That doesn’t mean they are going to act on them, or have any inclination to act on them (or be victimized). Do you have any idea how many people write comments on Breitbart about killing liberals or Muslims or immigrants, or assassinating individuals? Does that mean they are likely to do so?
Geez, what a transparent attempt to encourage hate and fear of people who worry about climate change. Such blatant propaganda is pervasive on this site, and the sad things is that it’s successful.
Goodness new now that’s some level of delusional denial Kristi,
There are so many climate prophets and high priests on the make, that the pope is feeling jealous.
kirsty
the agitprop is ALL coming from the warmists
the fear and needless anxiety is admittedly a goal of theirs to achieve their aims
not one of these emotionally labile people would have that issue as a worry if not FOR people like hansen gore and useles tools like greta
and yeah we sling sarcasm and laugh at them because they ARE deserving of it.
” Do you have any idea how many people, both men and women, have rape fantasies?”
No, I don’t. How many?
People who live in climates with winters cold enough to cause frostbite and hypothermia, are trained from childhood by their parents to have a healthy concern for coming bad weather. This unfortunately makes a number of us more susceptible to to the climate lunacy stories of the extremists.
“One of the routes through the anxiety is to engage with your grief and your sense of loss,” Hickman says.
What grief and sense of loss is Hickman talking about? Is she talking about the grief and loss following the murder of your own children? Or is she talking about some imaginary grief and loss associated with climate change? Extreme weather has not increased in recent decades, so there’s no evidence that weather related deaths can be blamed on Carbon Dioxide.
“she believes”, proof that she is not using science.
Nor has she internalized CAGW as a danger, or she would be taking these people at their words and reporting them to authorities for serious help by a real professional.
It’s a belief, a very shallow belief.
Explain to them that no, they shouldn’t be worried about their children’s carbon footprint, that the only actual climate danger always has been and always will be GLOBAL COOLING, and that the two very best things for the environment are more CO2 and more children.
1. Thanks the CO2 fertilization the planet is greener now than at any other time in human history. If we are lucky its slight warming effect may be strong enough to significantly offset the natural cooling we would otherwise expect, now that the sun has dropped into what is likely to be an extended period of low solar-magnetic activity.
2. Economic growth does not gobble up the planet, as eco-religionists believe. Growth comes primarily from technological progress which allows us to do more with less, allowing us to have more of everything we value, including the health of eco-sphere, and where does technological progress come from? From people, who start as CHILDREN.
“The parents who confess these dark thoughts to her aren’t actually going to act on them, she believes”
And Adolf never dreamed that his inner circle, with whom he discussed dark thoughts about a final solution, would actually act on those thoughts. In his mind, they were simply expressing the depth of their anxieties. Boy was he surprised when he eventually found out what they had done! /Sarc