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BERNIE SANDERS WANTS TO PROSECUTE OIL AND NATURAL GAS COMPANIES, BUT DOESN’T KNOW WHAT LAWS THEY VIOLATED
AUGUST 27, 2019 | WILLIAM ALLISON2020 Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is out with yet another climate proposal, this time to prosecute fossil fuel executives for causing climate change.
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The attack continues on his campaign website:
“Bernie promises to go further than any other presidential candidate in history to end the fossil fuel industry’s greed, including by making the industry pay for its pollution and prosecuting it for the damage it has caused.”
The problem? Sanders didn’t explain what laws these companies have broken. Spoiler alert: Providing affordable, reliable energy isn’t a crime anywhere, least of all in the United States.
But because Sanders personally doesn’t like what these companies do, he believes they should be taken to court.
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Energy in Depth
Fossil fuel executives should be criminally prosecuted for the destruction they have knowingly caused. #GreenNewDeal
— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) August 22, 2019
What other nations on Earth prosecute people before identifying the laws that were broken?
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He and all his ilk are truly bad people and perhaps a little insane.
I think they know what they are doing, I doubt Stalin ever went hungry.
Wonder how Bernie means to keep his gas guzzling Audi R8 supercar running with no petroleum based fuels? Then again, as you say, Stalin never missed any meals, neither did Pol Pot or Mao.
The frightening thing is there are a lot of people out there nodding their heads at this and thinking, COOL! You Go Bernie, we support you!
Do you have a link to this? The only ones I find are saying it was a Bernie lookalike driving an R8…doesn’t mean it’s not true, just could be the true believers providing cover. Maybe a FOIA request for vehicles registered to him would be an interesting find. I’m guessing they don’t all run on pixie dust and unicorn farts.
The Socialist Politburo motto: “Prosperity for me but not for thee. Go over their and get in the back of the line.”
The real threat is totalitarianism, and it is very serious – the voting demographic is getting younger and naïve youth find socialism very attractive.
Remember that Obama was elected President and Hillary only lost by a slim margin – Hillary would have been the end of democracy and prosperity for America.
The history of socialist dictatorships is well-known – destroy the economy and retain power by force. That is the future of our countries if the socialists succeed in their covert schemes – the climate scam is just a false front for their true objectives.
This is no wild theory – leftist dictatorships have now grown to control over half the people of the world. They promise gullible imbeciles lots of free stuff, get elected, and then hold on to power – the end of democracy.
The socialist leadership are brutal psychopaths, who seize onto any notion that will disrupt peaceful society, create poverty and chaos and thus give them total control. Their followers are imbeciles who follow anything that sounds good – this describes about the lower third of human intellect – people who are far too stupid to vote – but they do.
Socialists (aka Progressives aka Marxists) can only be described as insane – they will repeat the horrors of the 20th Century, with over 200 million innocent lives destroyed by the likes of Stalin, Hitler and Mao, and lesser psychos like Pol Pot and the Tin Pot leftist dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America – most recently Mugabe in Zimbabwe and Chávez and successors in Venezuela.
In fact, radical green socialists have already destroyed almost as many lives as their 20th Century counterparts. This green carnage is described in my essay “Hypothesis: Radical Greens are the Great Killers of Our Age”. A large percentage of those killed by the radical greens have been children under five years of age.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/
Radical greens are a reboot of the old Marxists, the “useful-idiot” fellow-travellers in the West who used to support the failed Soviet Union – they seem to think it will all go better this time – it won’t.
The leftists say that the millions killed by socialists Stalin, Hitler and Mao in the 20th Century were an aberration – but that notion is false – the murder of millions of innocents is the central feature of socialism – 200 million dead innocents cannot be wrong.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/20/what-the-green-new-deal-is-really-about-and-its-not-the-climate/#comment-2749625
“Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy.” – Mao Tse-Tung
Mao killed about 80 million of his own people, the mainland Chinese. How were they the enemy?
Stalin killed about 50 million Russians, Ukrainians, and others – also his own people.
National Socialist Hitler killed another 50 million, but some of them actually were his enemies.
What the left does not seem to understand is this:
WHEN POWER IS SO TIGHTLY CONCENTRATED, IT ALWAYS ENDS UP IN THE HANDS OF A VICIOUS PSYCHOPATH AND HIS SYCOPHANTS.
And no, this time it will NOT be different.
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When a country has a large population the law of averages says that you have a ( X ) % of idiots, BUT !!! something has gone very, very, very, wrong when one runs for President !
Here, …… I fixed it fer ya.
“This is no wild theory.”
The fact you need to announce that is a bit of a give away. I am far more concerned about wild-eyed, self-righteous zealots than Bernie Sanders.
Loydo – the history of socialist psychopaths like Hitler, Stalin and Mao is they come after their acolytes first. That means you.
Care to point out what Allan Macrae has said which is false?
Not even wrong. But echo-chambers’ll do that to ya.
Loydo – September 1, 2019 at 1:47 am
So, Loydo, ……. those female POTUS candidates scares the BEJESUS out of you, do they.
Well now, I just hafta agree with you on that one.
“I am far more concerned about wild-eyed, self-righteous zealots”
Loydo’s talking about itself.
Typical Loydo, when asked to put up, it changes the subject.
Floyd’s afraid of CAGW proponents like wild eyed self rightous zealot Al Gore. I am surprised he admits this.
“wild-eyed, self-righteous zealots”? That seems to describe Bernie Sanders pretty accurately.
Those who support socialism/communism think that they will get something for nothing and never have to work. They ignore the historical fact that they will become actual slaves to government and just barely be able to avoid starvation, while working all their miserable lives in support of their masters. As has been said forever, there is no cure for stupid.
I don’t mind Bernie going after the oil company execs, but only AFTER, they convict all current and past, US Congress members, Senators, and Presidents on the same charges.
He really is a socialist.
He is an idiot dressed up as a politician who really wants to start a civil war.
You’re wrong. They’re not a little insane. They are a lot insane. 🙂
The left wing mind loves abstraction. That makes it very easy to become unmoored from reality in a manner that mimics one form of schizophrenia.
Some people, especially the lefties, just can’t “mentally adjust” to their newly acquired “money and/or power” and thus they become neurotically driven by “hook or by crook” to acquire more and more of the same.
It doesn’t matter how much they acquire, ……. it is still not enough.
Aka: Bernie, Hillary n’ Bill and the Obamas.
That sounds like an apt description of Donald Drumpf. Fox is even Fake news to him now…it doesn’t jive with his reality.
Unlike The Bern and the rest of the 2020 Democrat Clown Car passengers, President Trumps’ reality is actually consistent with reality….
David,
“a little” ??????
More like either Full Retard or criminally psychotic.
Bernie and all his fellow communists are suicidal. They never seem to grasp the fact that they will also die because of their policies.
Sanders is a certifiable idiot who is slowly going senile, displaying evil intent by wanting to punish everyone who refuses to kiss his…ring.
Nice one David..,,
Bernie is a sideshow. Not sure why he gets the attention he gets.
Because, unfortunately, Bernie is not a sideshow. There are a lot of people that support him.
If he didn’t exist, we’d have to invent him.
He nakedly expresses what we suspect all of them are thinking.
Let’s just say “The stupid, it Berns.
Damn, I want that on a T-shirt now.
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These hypocritical bastards really make me puke every time I see them in a car or a plane. Or a mega million yacht made from carbon fibre.
Oh, well, if he’s endorsed by that fat b*st*rd Maduro, he is definitely NOT on my list of people who will get my vote.
It appears that he thinks there doesn’t have to be an actual law if he wants to say the oil companies broke it. Is that the correct interpretation of his addlepated twitterpating?
All users of fossil fuels should be prosecuted if they believe that their use harms the environment.
Does that include people who drive on asphalt roads or drive on concrete roads where the cement was made using coal? Inquiring minds want to know.
I think his point is that it includes comrade Sanders.
Gee whiz, Jimmy, I don’t know if that works for me. Natural gas keeps my little house cozy and warm and cooks my food, heats my water, and keeps my kitty contented. I don’t think there’s any harm in that, do you?
Bernie Sanders is a communist. What more needs to be said?
Where is Senator Joseph McCarthy when you need him…Bernie Sanders is a total self admitted Socialist if not a card carrying Communist which he is proud to yell that at the top of his lungs. Although I hope he gets the nomination because I know Americans will not vote heavily for a socialist/communist.
It looks like the Demo’s have a weak ticket for 2020, which should make for a cake walk for Trump. But it is time for President Trump to turn on full professional mode and really show he is a transformational President, one that only comes along once in a generation or two. Ronald Reagan was the last transformational president that planted a lot of seeds for the future course of the world.
He also wants to prosecute Amazon for his wife’s Credit card bill, the firewood delivery guy for the smoke in his backyard, and car manufacturers for his speeding and parking tickets.
OH! That image. The memories.
I started humming the Soviet national anthem, then scurried around to find my five year plan and started calling everyone comrade.
Bernie and all the lefties fail to remember that they, too, USE those evil fossil fuels, to heat their homes, generate electricity to light and cool their homes, to fuel their cars and planes, etc. No one forced them to use those fuels. Therefore, they are equally culpable of whatever made-up crimes Bernie can think of, for having willingly and knowingly enjoyed the benefits of using those evil, dangerous fuels.
I’m waiting for Bernie to start flying by solar powered dirigibles.
The helium would have come from a gas well in Wyoming, or if he uses hydrogen it would come from reforming natural gas.
Bernie and all the other lefties are no different than all the tele-evangelists Preachers ya see and/or hear on TV and radio …….. whose bottom-line message is ……. “send me your money” and I will save you from the evils of hell fire and damnation.
I like how Trump makes his opponents go insane. The problem is that the Republicans have no successor to Trump, so one of these insane people is likely to be elected president in 2024.
Cruz in a landslide 2024.
Not natural born. Constitutionally ineligible.
Q: Is Sen. Ted Cruz, who was born in Canada, eligible to be the U.S. president?
A: Most likely. The legal consensus is that Cruz qualifies because he was born to a U.S. citizen living abroad, making him a U.S. citizen at birth.
Based on the law at the time he was born, Ted Cruz is a “natural born US citizen.”
In contrast, on the Hawaiian “birth certificate” that the Obama campaign put on their website, Barack Obama’s father’s RACE is listed as AFRICAN. There is no such “race” as AFRICAN. Africa is a CONTINENT, comprised of many NATIONS, comprised of many RACES. Blacks at the time of Obama’s birth were listed as “NEGRO” or in some cases, “NEGROID”.
Can anyone explain why Barack Obama’s father’s RACEwas listed as AFRICAN? His mother was listed as “Caucasian,” as it should be. What color is an “AFRICAN?”
TEWS, there isn’t a legal consensus. This is a clear and unquestionable definition. He was child of a citizen and a legal resident. His citizen mother had lived in America for her entire childhood. Therefore, he is a birthright citizen.
Obama, on the other hand, was the son of a citizen mother and a foreign father. This required his citizen parent to reside in America for 18 years. However, his mother was sixteen at his birth. Therefore, he had to be born in America to qualify.
That being said, TEWS, I would guess that that was how Hawaii labeled it at the time. If it was wrong, then the official records of the Hawaiian government are wrong. Also, as the copy provided was a recent version provided from their records (presumably the original was lost), it is possible that their archives were censored, replacing “Negro” with a “African”. If there was such a colossal mishap, you’d think it would come to the attention of everyone involved. After all, if they were faking it, you’d think that they would create a convincing document.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona officially examined the Barack Obama Hawaiian certificate with a team of forensics experts and proved beyond any doubt that the published “Certificate of Live Birth” was a forgery. He made his findings public. Even the place of Obama’s birth and the name of the actual hospital changed a couple of times, and one place that was claimed didn’t even exist at the time of his birth. For his effort, the Deep State destroyed Joe Arpaio. It is moot by now, but there is enough doubt about Barack Obama’s actual place of birth and true citizenship to need an asterisk on his presidency.
Can anyone tell me what RACE — not NATIONALITY (which also doesn’t make sense) — is an “African?”
He was a citizen at birth due to his mother being a citizen, therefore he is eligible.
That would be one of the better outcomes possible.
Ivanka for President, 2024. It would be deliciously enjoyable to see her break the ‘glass ceiling’ that Hillary could not.
Mark Rubio for prez. 2024.
Trumplicans believe that President Trump, like any good CEO, is already working his succession plan in the background. He has 5 years, and this stuff usually gets ‘obvious’ about 2 years out. Will be another part of his eternal legacy.
And it isn’t Pence. Since nothing President Trump does is traditional or Uniparty Republican. Pence is a terrific two term VP for him. That is all.
Pence is terrific Impeachment-Removal barrier for Democrats.
Remove Trump –> President Pence x 2 terms + Trump’s remainder.
The Dumbocrats can’t see that their allowing Bill Clinton to remain as President in 1998 after his bald-faced Monica lies to the American public meant a huge distaste for Democrats in enough voters to elect (barely) Bush Jr. Had they done the honorable thing, Gore would’ve been the incumbent running against Bush in 2000 and Gore probably would’ve won easily.
Democrats can never bring themselves to do the honorable thing in any circumstance if it defies their immediate need for political power.
“The Scorpion and the Frog ~ also told as the Scorpion and the Turtle>/b> ~ Democrats ~ also known as Dumbocrats ~ are scorpions and will be forever.
Joel O’Bryan – August 31, 2019 at 9:47 pm
VP Pence is doing exactly what a VPOTUS is expected to do, …… support the POTUS but don’t “upstage” him.
I hafta assume that you musta been thinking about Biden when you claimed a “terrific Impeachment-Removal barrier”.
By hook or by crook, …… or by dastardly, devious, dishonest acts, ….. the Democrat Party is intent on winning the next General Election.
Already they are “instilling” the fear that all “voting machines” can be hacked, …… even though they are just as safe as ATMs..
Remember after Florida they were the ones who demanded them. In fact they wanted only one system per state at least. What’s easier to manipulate thousands of different county systems or 52 state or 1 federal system? They assumed any manipulation would be done by them.
There are literally MILLIONS of ATMs that are in use, ….. every day n’ night of every week, ….. and they are not being “hacked” by criminals or political operatives ……. and neither are or have there ever been any electronic voting machines “hacked” by anyone.
And neither have there ever been any of the MILLIONS of electronic Lottery (PowerBall) machines ever been “hacked”.
Dems can “steal” elections iffen “paper ballots” of one form or another are used, …… but not when electronic voting machines are used.
People with guns can “hack” the users of ATMs, …… but not the users of electronic voting machines.
Nobody has to hack them, they just have to have crooks running the voting and the count as in Broward County Florida and maybe a couple of other counties as was exposed during the 2016 “recount.” I won’t rehash it, but the massive fraud is still available if someone wants to review the reports that were published. I believe there were some firings and possibly some charges filed. Other similar fraud occurred in a few swing states as well.
I want to prosecute all manufacturers for providing easy access to food that enabled aunt Suzie to get massively obese, diabetic and died of coronary heart disease before her time. [“Aunt Suzie” here is a fictional character representing all people who die from gluttonous indulgence in easily accessible foods].
Nabisco knew.
Ritz knew.
Sprouts, Wallmart, Aldi, etc. all knew.
At what point will America’s political system require candidates to NOT be this stupid?
Where does this end? What if one of this collection of Socialists (they all sound like commie wannabees) wins a Presidential election? If not 2020 then the next one? Here’s the scary part: millions of supposedly registered and legitimate US voters are voting for them! This isn’t the Party of Kennedy anymore, that’s for sure. What am I supposed to do…I swore to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic, and when you leave active service they don’t ask you to take it back. What a mess.
Perhaps Trump has shown the way to the presidency and this may thin out the RINOS and reform Republicans, backing them away from the gradual drift to the left. Trump , with his bombast, has made “outrageousness” a little more commonplace and accessible to ones who may follow (maybe Donald Jr. or Ted Cruz).
The Democrat Party, too, will shift to right just to survive or it will be out of the picture for a generation or more. Collapse of the Marxbrothers Global Plan and Global Warming will speed this up. The shift from left to right will be accomplished by new blood, not transformation of the corrupted dinosaurs.
If I were counseling a prospective Democrat contender, It would be a no brainer. Step away from the flock of socialist clowns and battle with Trump in support of the policies that Trump failed to accomplish. Get on with the wall, jump into the breach with infrastructural projects, clear out the global warming clones and other deep staters.
I see no sign of such intelligence yet among the trainload of D contenders. Trump has given them the tools but no takers. My prediction, Trump will win this one with a majority.
“YUP”, and the “stuck-pig squeal” of the Democrats and Socialist liberal “troughfeeders” will be the LOUDEST “shot ever heard round the world”.
The problem, as I see it, is that “torts” are not criminal; they are civil. In other words, I can sue for a tort, but I cannot imprison or cause you to be imprisoned. To sue for tort, actual harm must (usually) be demonstrated, and then demonstrated how exactly you caused it. That’s two very large uncertainties right there to overcome.
There’s no doubt that if the next president is a Democrat some of that virtue signaling will turn into law, regulation and/or executive orders.
Well, there’s the constitution and there’s the fact that President Trump has stacked every court he can. link Some folks think his influence will last a generation, by which time we’ll be worried about global cooling again.
“Well, there’s the constitution”
Obama et el paid no attention to the COTUS ….. unless it supported his actions.
One can not “fundamentally change America”, …… while at the same time faithfully obeying the COTUS.
More evidence the left views “prosecution” as a political tool.
The whole attack on oil but the left reminds me of watching lemmings jump off a cliff. That they can’t see it is one of the stunning explanations of why they cannot be reasoned with. They do not need another correcting re-education camp, they need to swallow the red pill.
Is Bernie going to give up oil n gas? Is he going to give up his lifestyle and live like they did in the middle ages?
If not then shut up Bernie!
If Bernie were gay, he would be the Red Queen, from Alice. Off with their heads. Some democrat.
Does this mean ‘THE BERN’ is going to stop taking planes and driving cars in protest of fossil fuels? HA! The inconvenient truth for such a socialist hypocrite! Maybe he should be put in a home in the dead of winter without home heating fuel and see what it feels like.
Careful now . . . it’s only one very tiny next step to call for prosecuting (i.e., back taxing) all those who purchased the products made by the oil & gas industry. After all, those people were—and currently are—the “enablers” for said industry.
That is the problem with a prosecution every person in the country is complicit except probably the Amish.
Does Bernie use a bicycle 100 %. Of course not.
MJE VK5ELL
Can’t make a bicycle without coal or petroleum substances.
Don’t see many bicycles around made entirely of wood from old-growth forests.
We have a dictator running for president with about 1/6th of the nation’s support.
GOOD! I hope he and his supporters try hard, damn hard. To prove damages, they’ll have to.prove science. Especially since none of them buy the discussion point about natural variability.
Force them to prove it in court. This is one time the lawyers deserve to make make for having a fool for a client.
Someone should tell Bernie that others have sued the oil companies in the past and their lawsuits didn’t turn out very well. They lost.
Bernie, the problem is you have no proof that CO2 is doing what you claim it is doing. Judges need proof when they decide cases. If you decide to pursue such an action, you will find out just how little evidence you have available to you.
Imo, none of the Demcrats have a chance of winning the election, and that includes Bernie. I think it is going to be an overwhelming win for Trump.
Proof of CAGW, Bernie. You don’t have any proof. You don’t need proof for stump speeches, but you do need proof in court. We will never see this scenario play out, because Bernie won’t be elected.
I want to see one of these Democrats seriously propose to take away our gasoline. That will be the end of their political career.
Bernie isn’t going to sue anyone, today, tomorrow or next year.
Bernie just wants the “votes” of those liberal wackos that want him to sue the fossil fuel providers.
Maybe the oil corps will be regretting all that money they never sent sceptics.
… and let’s be honest … all the greenmail they paid out.
They’re winning the lawsuits precisely because they didn’t support skeptics to the degree claimed by “The Bern” and his ilk.