‘Climate Emergency’? Dems won’t allow presidential climate debate

From Gizmodo:

DNC Votes 222-137 Against Allowing Candidates to Participate in Climate Debate

Democratic National Committee delegates in San Francisco voted against allowing candidates to participate in a primary debate focused on climate change, per the Mercury News, in a contentious 222-137 vote that comes amid ongoing devastation in the Amazon rainforest and growing evidence that scientists have underestimated the pace at which the world is warming.

Top DNC officials shot down the idea of holding an official climate debate earlier this week. This vote was separate and decided whether the party would change its rules to allow the candidates to participate in an unsanctioned, third-party debate without risking consequences. Protesters interrupted the meeting, shouting “We can’t wait” and “Failure of leadership,” according to the Mercury News.

In an emailed statement to Gizmodo, the coalition of organizations pushing the debate—CREDO Action, Sunrise Movement, Climate Hawks Vote, Greenpeace USA, NextGen America, Bold Alliance, and Friends of the Earth Action—argued that Perez had terminated the idea because it wasn’t “politically expedient.”

Full story here.

Gosh, so much for the ‘climate emergency’. On the plus side, this sort of fracturing within the democratic party will almost guarantee Trump gets re-elected.

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August 26, 2019 12:35 pm

They should be glad they don’t have to argue over the lies about the Amazon “fire”……

Every morning, I stand on my front porch to look at the skies, the trees, and whatever else, I NEVER feel any danger coming, no horrific Climate monster coming down on me, no scary sea level rise, winds, storms,…. etc.

That babble about a 1C rise over a century hasn’t changed the world for the worse, except for those who find Pessimism under every grain of sand.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Sunsettommy
August 26, 2019 1:35 pm

It an agenda of control.
Climate change policy is an attempted societal control mechanism. Nothing more. Actual science was forcefully ejected from the climate change debate over 20 years ago.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
August 26, 2019 1:49 pm

Likely because you’re on your porch. Alarmists specifically say you can see Climate Change by looking out your window.

Reply to  Spetzer86
August 26, 2019 2:09 pm

He he, I don’t have a window on my front door, that is why I go outside, trying to smell doom is better done outdoors.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
August 26, 2019 2:16 pm

Only if said window is located directly above a blacktop parking lot. Otherwise you have to payoff NOAA to “hide the decline”, or just buy them some tequila shots and wings, they lie cheap.

John Francis
Reply to  2hotel9
August 26, 2019 3:23 pm

Haven’t you ever had the toasty warmth of CO2 on a cold cloudless night? Me neither.

Michael H Anderson
Reply to  Spetzer86
August 26, 2019 4:33 pm

I thought it could be seen clearly just by looking into your computer monitor and reading the raving of alarmists. I’m sure that’s the case with at least 99% of the people who believe it.

More than anything, this is just another symptom of the mass of people spectating life rather than participating in it.

Reply to  Sunsettommy
August 27, 2019 11:49 am

But it has already warmed 1 degree on the way to 1.5 degrees, don’t you see that we are already have 2/3 rds of an apocalypse. Oh wait, I don’t see it either.

Rod Evans
August 26, 2019 12:37 pm

The Democrats couldn’t organise a toss up in a coin flipping competition.
The ones with a few brain cells know, the ones with no brain cells must not be allowed to show they are dumb/brainless. Consequently, they have adopted the old strategy i.e. better to keep your mouth shut and say nothing, that way the public might think you are intelligent, rather that open your mouth and leave the public in no doubt, you are as thick as a plank.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Rod Evans
August 26, 2019 1:26 pm

Fortunately, when he’s off the teleprompter Creepy Uncle Joe doesn’t know how to shut up.

Bernie’s fully socialist rhetoric has already made him clearly un-electable in the General election, and every Democrat strategist with at least two functioning neurons knows this. It’s just he has a rabid base they do not want to P.O. like Hillary and her team did in 2016, to the point they stay home (and not vote) in November 2020.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 26, 2019 6:48 pm

He’s out for the book deals at this point like the riches he made off the first one. You have to make it sensation for those follow on books unless you want to travel a lot mining college student activity fees on the speaker circuit.

Reply to  Rod Evans
August 27, 2019 8:31 pm

I prefer: “Couldn’t run a two bed brotherl without giving it away”

August 26, 2019 12:55 pm

The DNC can’t allow a debate about climate change, because then their fraudulent science and political agenda will be exposed.

Reply to  John Shewchuk
August 26, 2019 5:07 pm

The planned Democrat Presidential Candidate “Climate Debate” was not going to be a debate on the merits of the (fraudulent) science. Heck, no…that’s been settled.

The debate idea was a means of getting the Climate ISSUE out in the “public square”…a propaganda event to drum up support for moving the country evermore leftward towards the Democrat Party’s real goal of a socialist state (with them forever at the helms of power, of course).

The original Climate Debate plan was to have the Candidates “debate” about which Candidate would promise using the more of other people’s money to combat the fake-problem of the Climate Crisis…and who would redistribute the most money to their parasite Democrat voters and which Candidate would spend the most to finance Socialized Medicine in the name of Climate (something the Green New Deal inexplicably does).

The Alarmist CAGW cabal will never willingly debate the science of Climate. Debate and deep “cross examination” is an actual key aspect of the scientific method. There are no real scientists on the Climate Crisis “side”…never was…only Activists scientists willing to lie and fudge data to generate Climate into a political movement.

Fortunately, the public doesn’t really care. They will say they care (a lot, even…due to peer pressure) if asked about Climate in a poll. But in polls where the pollsters ask people to list the top 10 most important issues of the day, Climate comes in near the bottom of the list. Almost NOBODY has any plans to willingly change their entire lives and pay 3 to 4 times higher energy prices to fix a problem that hasn’t affected them in the least.

AGW is not Science
Reply to  DocSiders
August 27, 2019 9:55 am

” But in polls where the pollsters ask people to list the top 10 most important issues of the day, Climate comes in near the bottom of the list. ”

You forgot to mention that “Climate” comes in near the bottom of the list ONLY when they INCLUDE IT ON THE “LIST” to begin with. Let people come up with their own “list,” and “Climate” wouldn’t even MAKE the “list.”

Curious George
Reply to  John Shewchuk
August 27, 2019 12:24 pm

It is not about questionable science. They want to retain some electability.

Reply to  Curious George
August 27, 2019 3:26 pm

It is 100% about “questionable science”, democrats pay “scientists” to lie in order to advance their leftist agenda and they use our money to pay for these lies.

August 26, 2019 1:02 pm

The great deception and deferral to the potential mandate list has begun. You know, the mandate list claimed the first week after an election win that includes the all the things not talked about during the campaign.

That’s also the week where all the CEOs come to kiss the gold ring. Let’s just hope it’s not Biden in a wheelchair. Come to think of it they are doing an excellent job of not reminding voters that Biden will be older than Reagan when he left office.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  ResourceGuy
August 26, 2019 2:35 pm

I wouldn’t count on it. I suspect they, or at least a rather large minority of ’em, would like to nominate Biden for President and an ultra-left socialist/Progressive as VP. Then a few months after taking office they’d ask/force Biden to resign and they’d have their Socialist President for the next 4 to 8 years.

The Progressives are about to go nuclear just thinking about poor Justice Ginsburg’s pancreatic cancer. If she succumbs (I do hope the doctors have it under control) and Trump can appoint another conservative judge, they see their plans to ‘fundamentally change America’, slowly heading for the Septic Tank of history. Why do you think they keep trying to put impeachment back on the table? And, if that doesn’t work what other plans do they have for replacing Trump? You can bet your sweet bippy they aren’t going to trust winning the election electorally.

Gilbert K. Arnold
Reply to  Joe Crawford
August 26, 2019 5:51 pm

@Joe Crawford: Gee, I haven’t seen/heard the phrase “sweet bippy” since the days of Rowan and Martins’ “Laugh IN” Brought a smile to my face.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
August 26, 2019 4:46 pm

Speaking of the age issue:

Reply to  MarkW
August 26, 2019 8:47 pm

Thanks MarkW

What a great man!

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  MarkW
August 27, 2019 3:27 am

Wow, how brilliant he was.
He also appeared more diplomatic in the way he voiced his opinions, than President Trump.
What would President Reagan have done regarding “The Climate Emergency?”

August 26, 2019 1:04 pm

So is the planetary emergence of the ages called off and relegated to Facebook misinformation and dorm rooms?

August 26, 2019 1:09 pm

The BBC have turned the Promenade Concerts at the Albert Hall into:
“a statement of the most extreme form of eco-catastrophism,
designed to terrify and intimidate the mostly young audience,
who clearly lacked the maturity to challenge it”.

Reply to  Photios
August 29, 2019 3:18 am

The London Natural History Museum now teaches that Climate Change from volcanism is as viable an explanation for extinct dinos as the “Chixculub impact” (shock diamonds be damned lol).

August 26, 2019 1:10 pm

They don’t want to have to go on record with anything crazy and the eco activists are demanding world communism as the only solution to their catastrophe claims.

Bruce Cobb
August 26, 2019 1:11 pm

How awful – the DNC fiddles while the earth burns.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 26, 2019 6:52 pm

I think they are willing to let it smolder at this point in order to reach for the power throne. Then they can claim whatever level of “out of the abundance of caution” over reach they choose on the “never let a good crisis go to waste” dial, even if the dial itself is total fraud.

Ron Long
August 26, 2019 1:15 pm

Good catch, Anthony. It appears that, although the DNC may be stupid, at least they are not dumb. Again, do they actually believe they need to safe the planet, or not? Gizmo? Wasn’t that the small furry creature in one of those horror movies?

August 26, 2019 1:18 pm

Too bad. I would have paid real money to see an entire Democrat debate about which candidate could destroy our economy and force Americans onto Agenda 21 reservations in the least amount of time.

Joel O'Bryan
August 26, 2019 1:22 pm

Let’s all hope the Dumbocrats come to their senses (that is, their true desires and stop hiding them) and put Climate Change policies front and center in their internal party Presidential nomination primary fights so that they will not be able to dodge them once we get into the General election season in August-November 2020.

The US voters need to vividly see the dire economic implications for their future under a Democrat in the White House and a Democrat-controlled Congress.

August 26, 2019 1:51 pm

Hmm… People aren’t so green about Green.

Flight Level
August 26, 2019 2:14 pm

Can’t pass the exam ? Burn the school indeed and blame the teachers !

Wiliam Haas
August 26, 2019 2:16 pm

What the DNC really needs is a candidate who can deal with the reality that Mankind really has no effect on climate and cannot stop Mother Nature from gradually changing the Earth’s climate as she has done for eons. Reality includes the fact that there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate. And even if we could somehow stop the Earth’s climate from changing, extreme weather events and sea level rise would continue because they are part of the current climate. We would be much better off if the emphasis were on improving the economy which would build up financial resource that we could use to build infrastructure to better protect ourselves from the ravages of extreme weather events. A big problem that that the federal government has right now is that they are deep in debt and are still losing money every year. Our current President has failed to turn things around. I would like the Democratic Candidates to give us their plans for repairing our economic problems. 1. How are we going to turn annual trade deficits into annual trade surpluses? 2. How are we going to turn annual federal deficits into annual federal surpluses? 3. How is the federal government going to pay off the national debt? Inflation is really a form of taxation that adversely affects the poor and the middle class more than it does the rich 4. How are we going to end inflation and protect the value of our money? These economic questions are all very important to our ability to deal with extreme weather events.

Reply to  Wiliam Haas
August 26, 2019 2:19 pm

“What the DNC really needs is a candidate who can deal with the reality that Mankind really has no effect on climate and cannot stop Mother Nature” You just removed yourself from their email and fund raising lists. Nicely played!!!!!!!!!

August 26, 2019 2:50 pm

Pussies. It would have been hilarious to watch the debaters try and outdo each other when it came to scaring the voters. There would have been a lot of comedy gold in there.

August 26, 2019 3:21 pm

There is nothing more entertaining or rewarding than to see a bunch of Socialists attacking each other and tearing strips off each other. As Napoleon said, “‘Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.’

August 26, 2019 3:22 pm

Good points…and maybe they could take up men’s rights in the process…but wait…nobody cares about any of that.

Gunga Din
August 26, 2019 4:24 pm

WOW! Not only won’t they debate the whole “CAGW” thing (and it’s variants) with real climate scientist, they won’t even debate it in front of their followers!
They duped those protesting. Live with them.

Howard Dewhirst
August 26, 2019 4:39 pm

It’s to be expected, classic Greenpeace tactics, NEVER let the facts get in the way of a good story

High Treason
August 26, 2019 6:12 pm

Refusal to debate is a classic ploy of LIARS. They know their story is based on a pile of manure and digging at the truth will disturb that narrative based on manure. The truth will reveal their story to be rubbish. From there, questions will be raised. Heads will roll.
Claims that the science is settled and the debate is over, which is fundamentally unscientific are a ploy to escape scrutiny. Those with something to hide know deep down they have no actual case- there is no evidence that the 3% of CO2 increase that is of human origin is the driver of dangerous or catastrophic global warming/ “climate change.” Without actual evidence, there is no justification for any of the insane climate measures and Indulgences paid to the UN, the ones that promote the hoax.
Just as the Catholic church became fabulously wealthy by selling Indulgences in the 16th century, the UN is raking in hundreds of billions to “combat” a “problem” they created. Like Indulgences, they are exploiting Fear and Guilt to stoke their Greed.
Perhaps Donald Trump should assume the cAGW narrative to be a lie until it is subjected to due diligence. This might force them to debate.

August 26, 2019 6:16 pm

Keep telling yourself that this or that matter if debate within the opposition “guarantees Trump will be re-elected” … but meanwhile, Trump declares himself the “Chosen One”, the new Messiah, meaning the whole world knows without a doubt that he is certifiably insane … and also meanwhile, his polls are tanking along with the economy. Putin may have stolen one election, but forewarned is forearmed.

Reply to  Duane
August 26, 2019 6:59 pm

Did you get that his ‘chosen one’ comment was a sarcastic joke? Apparently not. He sets so many traps for the lunatic left press to obsess about by ignoring context and they keep falling for them while inventing transparently bogus context that in the end, always makes them look foolish.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Duane
August 26, 2019 7:08 pm

Have you heard of TDS?

August 27, 2019 12:11 am

“….and growing evidence that scientists have underestimated the pace at which the planet is warming.”
I believe that there is growing evidence that aliens landed at Roswell in 1948.
President Trump has said that one of the first things he did after his inauguration was to tweak the nipple of the Roswell alien.

August 27, 2019 7:34 am

LOL! I wonder why they don’t want to ague about their “facts” on climate change? It’s one of their favorite topics! I find it hilarious that they so blatantly refuse support their own claimed beliefs. They’ll issue statements on climate change…but it’s CRITICAL that they don’t interact about it. That would require them to answer questions. Commit to the answers. And, most importantly, DEFEND their positions with FACTS.

Mickey Reno
August 28, 2019 6:46 am

I join with the commies and pinkos, the Democrats (I repeat myself) the enviro-loons and the SJWarriors in urging a Democratic debate about climate change. I imagine that it would go something like this.

Moderator: Which one of you crazy bastards is more crazy than the others?
Sanders: I’m the craziest!
Warren: ME!
Biden: ME!
Booker: ME!
Buttigeig: ME!
Castro: ME!
O’Rourke: soy loco!
Klobuchar: ME!
Gabbard: ME!
Gillibrand: ME!
Bennett: ME!
Yang: ME!
Steyer: I spend my own money to be crazy!
Williamson: I will be crazy in a tranquil manner
DeBlasio: I am crazy personified
Inslee: I was prepared to be more crazy than all of them.
Hickenlooper: I quit, but I’ll try to be crazy in the Senate now!

August 28, 2019 8:51 pm

They couldn’t hold a debate because everyone knows the science is settled . Isn’t it ?
Sorry Gizmodo (is that Russian ) it wasn’t” politically expedient”. Holding it would be political suicide
as loony tune as the New Greenie Deal so eloquently showed .
What were we going to hear …. fire more coal workers .
One of Hillary’s special self detonation moments .
How about screaming Bernie telling about a vision to nationalize the energy industry .
Yeah just double down .
The thing is the Democrats lie about everything else so it’s amusing to see them want to bury
their big bone issue . No “believer’ ever wants to debate climate change …. ever .
Who would watch a debate of dumb politicians wanting to destroy the USA ?
They would prefer to hatch their plan after duping the American public .

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