The Greenland Purchase

Guest ROTFLMFAO by David Middleton

No Joke: Trump Really Does Want To Buy Greenland

August 19, 2019

President Trump on Sunday confirmed that his administration has discussed buying Greenland from Denmark, comparing the idea to “a large real estate deal” and suggesting the island would be of strategic value to the United States.

Speaking to reporters, the president confirmed reports that first appeared on Thursday in The Wall Street Journal that he had asked administration officials to look into the possibility of purchasing the self-governing Danish territory.

“It’s just something we’ve talked about,” he said. “Denmark essentially owns it. We’re very good allies with Denmark. We’ve protected Denmark like we protect large portions of the world, so the concept came up.”

[…]

Earlier Sunday, White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told Fox News that the president had discussed the subject with his advisers.

“I don’t want to predict an outcome, I’m just saying the president — who knows a thing or two about buying real estate — wants to take a look at a Greenland purchase.”

[…]

Scott Neuman, NPR

While it’s impossible to determine if President Trump is serious about trying to pull off a “Greenland purchase,” the media meltdown has been hysterical!

Vox

The truth is that though it sounds kind of silly, it makes perfect sense if you happen to share Trump’s indifference to environmental issues and indigenous rights.

Greenland is believed to contain a lot of natural resource wealth that is difficult to exploit due to the large amounts of ice and permafrost in the way.

But the planet is getting warmer. A vision of American public policy that is neither interested in halting the warming process nor concerned about the environmental impact of exploring the resources would naturally want to acquire such a potentially rich land. Many Americans, of course, do not share that policy philosophy, but it is very much the Trump worldview.

Matthew Yglesias, Vox

The Grauniad

Greenland, and more specifically its purchase by the US, is being actively discussed in Donald Trump’s Oval Office. But what exactly is it that makes one of the world’s most desolate places such an attractive proposition?

For the president, it is the real estate deal of a lifetime, one that would secure a land mass a quarter the size of the US and cement his place in US history alongside President Andrew Johnson, who bought Alaska from Russia in 1867, and Thomas Jefferson, who secured Louisiana from the French in 1803.

Phillip Inman, The Grauniad

CNN

1. Why?
It makes sense to get the big one out of the way first, right? Why would the US President want to purchase an island that is 80% covered by an ice sheet and where less than 60,000 people actually live? Trump himself hasn’t said — yet — but there are a few obvious reasons.

The first is because Greenland is widely believed to be hugely rich in natural resources — including iron ore, lead, zinc, diamonds, gold, rare earth elements, uranium and oil. And much of it is currently untapped, due to the fact that, well, 80% of the country is covered by an ice sheet. But due to global warming, that ice sheet is melting rapidly — this summer NASA scientists observed two of the largest melts in the history of Greenland — and that erosion of the ice sheet is expected to make the mining of Greenland’s natural resources more doable.

The second is for geopolitical reasons. The United States already has a foothold in the country — Thule Air Base — and, as The Wall Street Journal, which broke the Greenland purchase story, notes:

“Located 750 miles north of the Arctic Circle, it includes a radar station that is part of a U.S. ballistic missile early-warning system. The base is also used by the U.S. Air Force Space Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command.”

Third, Trump is a man very interested in his legacy in office. Buying Greenland would be a major bullet point on his presidential resume.

Chris Cillizza, CNN

The Washington Post

Trump’s musings over Greenland are part of his larger tendency to see territory as a tradable commodity, particularly in dealing with the Middle East. During the 2016 Republican presidential primary debates, candidate Marco Rubio chastised candidate Trump for treating Palestinian aspirations for statehood as a “real estate deal.” Jared Kushner’s plan for Middle East peace relies on territorial exchanges between the Palestinians, Jordan and Egypt. Trump’s March tweet recognizing Israel’s control over the Golan paid little attention to the symbolic claims at stake.

This is a dangerous approach to territorial conflict. As recent events in Kashmir make clear, nations are still prepared to shed blood and treasure to secure national claims. Understanding the symbolic value of territory is key to managing this and any future territorial disputes.

In other words, Trump’s real estate approach to Greenland may be the tip of the melting iceberg.

Stacie E. Goddard is a professor of political science and faculty director of the Madeleine K. Albright Institute of Global Affairs at Wellesley College. She is the author of “When Right Makes Might: Rising Powers and World Order.” Washington Post

Summary

In essence, the media and academia think that President Trump wants to buy Greenland because he:

  1. Hates the environment.
  2. Hates indigenous people.
  3. Wants to unfairly take advantage of climate change in his quest for American Energy Dominance.
  4. Views real estate as if it was a tradable commodity.
  5. Actually wants to put American interests ahead of every other nation’s.

Items #1 and #2 are lies and the next three are simply logical.

The Economics of the Greenland Purchase

Greenland is rich in natural resources.

Greenland general geology and selected mineral resources. (Brookings)
Greenland oil & gas concessions. (Brookings)

However, a lack of infrastructure, harsh operating conditions and lack of a large skilled work force make development very challenging.

The 2008 USGS Circum-Arctic Resource Appraisal estimated that Greenland’s oil & gas potential to be nearly 50 billion barrels of oil equivalent.

At current market prices, the oil & gas resources could be worth over $1.6 trillion.

Of course the cost of developing those resources would be huge, the actual recoverable oil & gas could be much more or much less than the resource potential and it would take 10-20 years to achieve meaningful production rates.

One estimate puts the purchase price at a bit over $500 billion.

While it is difficult to find comparable sections of the United States that could be used to create a valuation, the closest are in the Mountain States, where mineral and oil deposits have been only partially exploited, and then apply a discount for the Greenland risk of lack of exploration.

Any analysis has to rule out North Dakota because of the established value of shale. Wyoming has no established mineral or oil deposits of similar size to North Dakota’s. 24/7 Wall St. has estimated the value of Wyoming’s land is $97 billion. Wyoming covers 98,000 square miles. Based on it landmass, Greenland would be worth 5.5 times Wyoming’s worth, or $533 billion. That would make the amount almost the size of America’s annual military budget.

USA Today

Greenland is probably worth $533 billion, if it was for sale.

Seward’s Folly

Signing of the Alaska Treaty, 1867
Russia offered to sell Alaska to the United States in 1859, believing the United States would off-set the designs of Russia’s greatest rival in the Pacific, Great Britain. The looming U.S. Civil War delayed the sale, but after the war, Secretary of State William Seward quickly took up a renewed Russian offer and on March 30, 1867, agreed to a proposal from Russian Minister in Washington, Edouard de Stoeckl, to purchase Alaska for $7.2 million. The Senate approved the treaty of purchase on April 9; President Andrew Johnson signed the treaty on May 28, and Alaska was formally transferred to the United States on October 18, 1867. This purchase ended Russia’s presence in North America and ensured U.S. access to the Pacific northern rim.

For three decades after its purchase the United States paid little attention to Alaska, which was governed under military, naval, or Treasury rule or, at times, no visible rule at all. Seeking a way to impose U.S. mining laws, the United States constituted a civil government in 1884. Skeptics had dubbed the purchase of Alaska “Seward’s Folly,” but the former Secretary of State was vindicated when a major gold deposit was discovered in the Yukon in 1896, and Alaska became the gateway to the Klondike gold fields. The strategic importance of Alaska was finally recognized in World War II. Alaska became a state on January 3, 1959.

US Department of State

Based on the historical inflation rate, $7.2 million in 1867 is worth about $125 million today. Invested at 3% compound interest, it would be worth about $644 million.

From 1981-2018, 15.7 billion bbl of crude oil were produced from Alaska North Slope oil fields at an average sales price of $24.58/bbl. That’s $386 billion in gross revenue.

If you think Seward’s Folly was a bargain… We could have had Greenland on the cheap…

American Imperialists Have Always Dreamed of Greenland
Trump’s reported hopes of buying the Danish island exemplify his 19th-century values.

BY PAUL MUSGRAVE | AUGUST 16, 2019, 12:17 PM

From his love of tariffs to his racial view of the world, Donald Trump is the nineteenth-century president America never had. Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal offered another piece of evidence suggesting that the 45th president is a man out of time: the president, it turns out, has frequently mused aloud about buying Greenland from Denmark. (Greenland, although largely self-governing, is alongside Denmark and the Faroe Islands one of the three constituent countries of the Kingdom of Denmark.)

Like Trump’s racism and trade policies, there’s a precedent for American officials trying to buy territory. Most Americans know, vaguely, that the United States acquired much of its territory by buying it. Some acquisitions, like the Louisiana Purchase, are well enough known to be the subject of TV ads. Others are more obscure, like when Secretary of War Jefferson Davis and other Southerners pressed for the purchase of enough of northern Mexico to support the construction of a Southern transcontinental railway.

In fact, buying Greenland has been tried seriously twice. But the changes in international relations since then make it a far worse idea than it was at the time.

The first time came during the administration of President Andrew Johnson. William Seward, a Lincoln holdover, used Johnson’s distraction over Reconstruction to pursue his longstanding goals of territorial expansion.

Seward made bids of varying intensity to wrest Canada from the British Empire and to buy or lease a naval base in the Caribbean. His buccaneering policy finally paid off with the Alaska Purchase, when the Russian Empire, seeking to divest itself of some underperforming assets, finally succeeded in persuading Seward to buy Russian North America. But it also included an attempt to buy Greenland and Iceland from Denmark, which then owned both.

Robert J. Walker, a former treasury secretary and influence-peddler in the mid-nineteenth century, learned that Denmark might be induced to sell the islands in 1867 as he negotiated the purchase of Denmark’s Caribbean colonies in the West Indies. Seward leapt at the chance and commissioned Walker to produce a gushing report on the resources of Greenland and Iceland.

Walker’s covering note to the report marveled at how buying the two islands could lead the United States to greatness. Although he admitted that basically nothing of Greenland’s north or interior was known, it nevertheless pounded what facts it could master, such as that Greenland was “the largest island in the world” and that it possessed “whale fisheries…of the value of $400,000.”

Seward’s hopes that the United States could make a bid for the islands came to naught when his deal to buy the Danish West Indies failed in the Senate, even though the treaty for purchasing them had been ratified by both the Danish parliament and a plebiscite in the islands. (They would be purchased fifty years later and became the US Virgin Islands.)

[…]

Foreign Policy

American Imperialists???

Paul Musgrave is an assistant professor of government at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and an expert in American foreign policy matters. He teaches courses in international relations theory, history and international relations, energy politics, U.S. foreign policy, and politics and science fiction.[1]

Wikipedia

Never had a real job. That explains the snot-nosed tone and “American Imperialists” horst schist.

A business man would have honed in on this:

Walker’s covering note to the report marveled at how buying the two islands could lead the United States to greatness. Although he admitted that basically nothing of Greenland’s north or interior was known, it nevertheless pounded what facts it could master, such as that Greenland was “the largest island in the world” and that it possessed “whale fisheries…of the value of $400,000.”

We could’ve had Greenland in 1867 for less than Joe Namath’s starting salary with the New York Jets in 1965.

MIAMI, FL – JANUARY 12: Joe Namath #12 of the New York Jets drops back to pass against the Baltimore Colts during Super Bowl III at the Orange Bowl on January 12, 1969 in Miami, Florida. The Jets defeated the Colts 16-7. (Photo by Focus on Sport/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Joe Namath

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rbabcock
August 22, 2019 6:31 am

Take an old Navy destroyer, park it off the coast of Greenland, blow it up, blame the Greenlander’s and invade the country. It worked in Cuba and it could work there.

MarkW
August 22, 2019 6:46 am

“Views real estate as if it was a tradable commodity.”

You mean it isn’t?

“Actually wants to put American interests ahead of every other nation’s.”

Isn’t it the job of a country’s leader, to put that country’s interests ahead of other countries?

MarkW
August 22, 2019 6:48 am

Once again the liberal assumes that anyone who disagrees with a liberal, must be evil. In this instance racist.

Steve Oregon
August 22, 2019 7:04 am

Of course Denmark would sell. There’s a price. And it’s not proportionate to any open land like Wyoming. Probably half that or so. $200 billion?
The people of Greenland would also enjoy becoming US citizens.
The media meltdown with those angry on CNN and MSNBC has been bizarre with the continued gang like attack on Trump being the only mission.
They way they explain Trump and his motives while spewing how crazy he has become cult chanting.

August 22, 2019 7:09 am

Yes, there is a very obvious mineral on Greenland.
Dihydrogen monoxide, and staggering amounts of it.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Bob Hoye
August 23, 2019 2:06 pm

Or dihydrous oxide (has a more scientific sound).

Duane
August 22, 2019 7:10 am

The fool who melted down was Trump, not the media.

You think it’s funny that a US POTUS seriously insulted one of our most loyal allies, Denmark, a nation that fought and died beside us in our recent foreign wars?

That is really sick and pathetic. The Trumpkin mentality is a disease that needs to be eradicated.

Earthling2
Reply to  Duane
August 22, 2019 8:29 am

Calm down now Duane and take your meds. Trump is a stable genius. I wouldn’t be surprised if the native Greenlanders themselves have a referendum to completely break ties with Denmark, and assume a much deal with America. The bidding has just begun and this ain’t over til its over.

BillP
Reply to  Duane
August 22, 2019 8:35 am

In what clown world is offering to buy land from someone insulting them?

Duane
Reply to  BillP
August 22, 2019 12:04 pm

The real world of nations. And of leaders who are not condescending a-holes who attack their nations friends and allies while defending their nation’s enemies.

Imagine Russia going up to Trump and offering to buy the Red States from America, because they are already in the tank for Russia and their bought and paid for POTUS?

Perhaps some the blue states might be quite content to let them go .. but no, you and most Americans would be offended, and tell Putin to go do something to himself.

mike the morlock
Reply to  Duane
August 22, 2019 1:45 pm

Duane August 22, 2019 at 12:04 pm

Duane you are either having a blast play acting or nuts. Trump making an offer or opening a discussion is not insulting, the reply was. The Danes can forget me buying any of their cookies this Xmas.

BillP
Reply to  Duane
August 22, 2019 2:01 pm

So it is the clown world in which Russia won the election for Trump. So absolutely no connection with reality.

Andrew Cooke
Reply to  Duane
August 23, 2019 7:52 am

Duane, I can always tell when someone who has completely lost all ability to be rational is posting or talking. They make some ignorant comment about how Russia helped DJT win the election. At this point I would make some comment to make an attempt to argue the point with you, but it is useless. You are so overcome by your overemotional, illogical, and ridiculous fantasy that no one could talk you out of it.
For the record, I am not pro-Trump, or at least I was not at the beginning. But constantly interacting with illogical demagogues like you quickly helped me to realize that the Democrat party is NOT the party my family always voted for. They are now clinically insane.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duane
August 22, 2019 10:17 am

“You think it’s funny that a US POTUS seriously insulted one of our most loyal allies, Denmark, a nation that fought and died beside us in our recent foreign wars?”

Well, when you insult Trump/United States you can expect to get an insulting reply back from Trump, and he doesn’t care who you are.

If the leader of Denmark had treated the offer as a joke, instead of insulting Trump by calling it “absurd”, then everyone would have had a good laugh, but the Danish leader had to allow her personal feelings against Trump to enter into the conversation. They slap Trump. Trump slaps back. Be governed accordingly.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duane
August 22, 2019 10:20 am

“That is really sick and pathetic. The Trumpkin mentality is a disease that needs to be eradicated.”

No, it’s the Trump Derangement Syndrome that needs to be eradicated.

August 22, 2019 7:58 am

Be nice to the Greenlanders. The ones that wish to become American citizens won’t have to sail down to Mexico and cross the border to become Californians. No problem maintaining there superior lifestyle, at the very minimum pyschologically superior.

August 22, 2019 8:04 am

Rob
Subsidies. That’s how the island of Newfoundland ended up in Canada.
By the late 1940s, the Brits no longer wanted it. Most of the trade was with Maine, so it would have been a
“natural” to go to the US.
But Joey Smallwood, who became premier, campaign that Canada would provide more welfare.
And does—to this very day.

August 22, 2019 8:07 am

Years ago, I rewrote Paul Simon’s “Graceland” when the satellite data was published showing more ice from 1993-2003:

I’m Goin’ to Greenland (with apologies to Paul Simon)
The North Atlantic continent was
Shining like a National guitar
I am following the Gulf Stream
Up the seaway
Through the cradle of the Viking Shore

I’m going to Greenland
Greenland
Frozen to the sea
I’m going to Greenland

Puffins and pilot whales with families
And we are going to Greenland

My global ice hypothesis is nine years old
It is the child of my politics
But I’ve reason to believe
It will find reprieve
In Greenland

Data comes to tell me “more ice”
I didn’t want to know that
I didn’t want to trust my own data
I can’t admit I noticed
The way the glaciers are building
And I feel losing this bet
Is like a hole in my idea
My hypothesis is blown apart
The satellites see the ice grow

I’m going to Greenland
Greenland
Frozen to the sea
I’m going to Greenland
Puffins and pilot whales with families
And we are going to Greenland

And my working hypotheses
Are ghosts with bad predictions
I’m sticking with my convictions
But I’ve reason to believe
I will find reprieve
In Greenland

There is a man named Karl Popper
Who calls out when your idea’s falsified
And sometimes when I’m dodging, lying
And fudging to the media I say
Oh, so this is what he means
He means the ice is up in Greenland
And I feel losing this bet
Is like a hole in my idea
My hypothesis is blown apart
Everybody sees the ice grow

In Greenland, Greenland
I’m going to Greenland
The data I cannot explain
There’s some part of me wants to see
Greenland
And I may be obliged to defend
Every statement, every conference
Or maybe there’s no global warming now
Maybe I’ve a reason to believe
We all will find reprieve
In Greenland

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle (@DeHavelle)
(I favor the purchase, as a “Seward’s Folly II”)

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Keith DeHavelle
August 22, 2019 11:01 am

Oh, Greenland is a dreadful place
It’s a land that’s never green
Where there’s ice and snow and the whalefishes blow
And daylight’s seldom seen, brave boys

Greenland Whale Fisheries (trad.)
The Weavers

Hans Erren
August 22, 2019 8:44 am

Kopenhagen doesn’t ‘own’ Greenland anymore, the island is an autonomous region with an own government. The first instititution to ask if they want to be ‘sold’ is the autonomous parliament of Greenland. Given the huge implication thus would mean a constitutional change and hence a new election and a majority of two thirds of both parliaments (Greenland and Denmark) is needed.

icisil
Reply to  Hans Erren
August 22, 2019 9:20 am

Can’t imagine what the US has to offer Greenlanders that they would agree to such a thing.

John Tillman
Reply to  icisil
August 22, 2019 10:42 am

The subsidies which Denmark no longer wants to pay, as per Indian reservations and Alaskan communities. Massive construction jobs. A diversified economy with more tourism, mining, ranching and indoor farming. More connections with the outside world. Learning the international language rather than Danish.

But besides that, what?

Hans Erren
August 22, 2019 8:51 am

I presume Greenlanders would prefer to join Canada over USA.

Earthling2
August 22, 2019 8:58 am

The Prime Minister of Denmark is just behaving like a teenage girl rebuffing a date from a boy she really likes so she appears to be playing hard to get just to see how interested the boy really is. Hence the ‘absurd’ remark. ‘I would never go out with you.’ This is just the opening volley of an attraction between USA and Denmark to ensure that the price for Greenland is respectable. Something tells me this isn’t the end of this story, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see further developments of some type.

But seriously, this is to ensure with 100% certainty that neither Russia or China gain access to the strategic location and resources of Greenland, and/or to the North West Passage through Canada, which coincidently is also on the table today with the visit by Pompeo to Ottawa today.

John Tillman
Reply to  Earthling2
August 22, 2019 10:38 am

IMO $500 billion is too much.

Most of Wyoming is not under a thick ice sheet. There should be a substantial icy discount.

The ice sheet is not going anywhere soon. The Eemian was warmer than and lasted 5000 years longer than the Holocene has so far. The GIS’ southern dome melted perhaps 25% more by the end of that interglacial than it has so far in this one. The northern dome, not so much, as in, probably not at all.

John Tillman
Reply to  David Middleton
August 22, 2019 9:26 pm

True, but lots of proven fossil fuel reserves, already being mined at economic rates.

John Tillman
Reply to  Earthling2
August 22, 2019 1:57 pm

Early 21st-century Eskimo population estimates range from more than 135,000 to 170,000. Of the lower guess, some 85,000 Yupik, Inupiat and Inuit people live in North America, 50,000 Inuit in Greenland, and the remainder Yupik in Siberia. In Alaska, Yupik mainly live on the Bering Sea and Inupiat on the Arctic Ocean, next to their kin in western Canada. Inuit of course occupy eastern Canada and Greenland.

There is no Eskimo word for Eskimo, so we’re stuck with the name given these groups as a whole. IMO Greenlanders might well vote to unite with their kinfolk in Canada, whence their ancestors came, although originally from Alaska and Siberia.

Dunnooo
August 22, 2019 9:04 am

Does Trump want to buy the UK? If so, I expect the Tories would sell it to him. They have already sold most UK utilities to foreign companies.

Robert of Texas
August 22, 2019 9:11 am

Put on display is the difference between political systems. Russia would have just invaded (assuming they had the capability and the U.S. would have let them). The U.S. tries to buy it through a negotiation. Strange the world cannot see the difference.

Mark Lee
August 22, 2019 9:25 am

Everyone that borders the Arctic Ocean has been making assertions about control of the resources adjacent to their coast lines. IIRC, the economic zone is 200 miles from the coast. At the present time, the coast of Alaska is only a small part of the Arctic shoreline when compared to Russia and Canada. So acquiring Greenland would give us resource rights deep into the Arctic Ocean. Plus, if we ever lose the right to base military forces in Iceland, our ability to track and intercept Russian submarines is compromised. Greenland would help to offset that vulnerability.

Or, there is a crashed alien spacecraft under a glacier, and Trump wants it. If you want a sensationalist answer, go with this one.

Walter Sobchak
August 22, 2019 9:34 am

The US should not buy Greenland for its natural resources, because the EPA and the federal Judiciary will block any mining or drilling because they6 do not want to inflict pain on Gaia.

ResourceGuy
August 22, 2019 9:34 am

How about a simple trade, Puerto Rico for Greenland. Recent upgrades included.

Bob72270
Reply to  ResourceGuy
August 22, 2019 11:16 am

I the Danes go for the Puerto Rico trade for Greenland we can also offer them a paint and carpet allowance!!

Bob72270
August 22, 2019 11:16 am

If the Danes go for the Puerto Rico trade for Greenland we can also offer them a paint and carpet allowance!!

JimG1
Reply to  Bob72270
August 22, 2019 2:45 pm

Why not California and New York? A much better deal for the U.S.

Jeff Id
August 22, 2019 11:50 am
John Tillman
Reply to  Jeff Id
August 22, 2019 2:15 pm

The Truman Administration’s attempt wasn’t the first. Around the same time that Secretary of State Seward purchased Alaska from Russia, 1867, he also tried unsuccessfully to acquire Greenland and Iceland from Denmark.

Simon
August 22, 2019 12:14 pm

In essence, the media and academia think that President Trump wants to buy Greenland because he:

“Hates the environment.”
No… he just doesn’t value it. He sees it as a tradeable commodity.
“Hates indigenous people.”
Again he probably sees them as an asset. Or… doesn’t have an opinion if they are not on his $$$ radar.
“Wants to unfairly take advantage of climate change…..”
He has done that before. See https://www.vox.com/2018/11/27/18114338/trump-climate-change-assessment-golf-course-ireland
“Views real estate as if it was a tradable commodity.”
I don’t think there is any doubt about that.
“Actually wants to put American interests ahead of every other nation’s.”
You can do that without being an insulting twat. Well most politicians can.

It’s pretty arrogant/petulant/spoilt childish to cancel a meeting because the party tells you one of it’s “not for sale” pieces of land is … well… not for sale. In fact he is being a bully with it. “If I don’t get what I want I’ wont play with you till I do.”

John Tillman
August 22, 2019 1:19 pm

Surprising that England didn’t claim Greenland during the ~300-year interval between the Norse demise and Danish colonization.

Neapolitan John Cabot, sailing for King Henry VII, on his second voyage in 1498 visited Greenland, both east and west coasts; he also explored Baffin Land and Newfoundland.

In 1576, Sir Martin Frobisher sighted the east coast of Greenland while searching for a NW passage. On the same mission, John Davis also sailed there by the same route from the Shetlands in 1583.

Britain ended up with a claim to the Canadian Arctic islands as a result of these and Henry Hudson’s (died in the eponymous Bay in 1611) voyages, but apparently wasn’t interested in Greenland. Thus it was available for Danish exploitation over a century later.

The ethnic, linguistic and cultural relatedness of Greenland and eastern Canadian Inuit, plus geographic proximity and geological similarity, do indeed argue for Canadian affiliation.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 22, 2019 6:42 pm

Danish maladministration of Greenland has been disastrous for 300 years.

British or Dutch, and later Canadian or American, administration couldn’t have been worse and almost certainly would have been better.

Jake J
August 22, 2019 1:20 pm

A simple idea.

Offer $550 billion, payable directly to Greenland’s adult residents of record as of August 1, 2019. Call for a referendum, and if the residents don’t want to accept $15 million per adult to fly a different flag, then walk away. You know, that whole “democracy” thing that the Democrats are always going on about?

John Tillman
Reply to  Jake J
August 22, 2019 5:52 pm

Good concept, but Greenlanders might accept $150,000 per adult, plus promises of good jobs, improved infrastructure and more contact with the outside world.

Wiliam Haas
August 22, 2019 1:48 pm

The federal government is deep in debt and is losing huge amounts of money each year. Before the federal government can consider buying anything, they need to stop losing money and pay off their debts. As the federal government’s CEO, the President needs to present to the American people a plan for making the federal government profitable again and for paying off all of the federal government’s debts.

Earthling2
August 22, 2019 1:52 pm

Let the Greenlanders decide with a referendum. Prime Minister Kim Kielsen should feel out the 57,713 citizen’s of Greenland and ask them if they want a referendum on the subject of remaining serfs in a “Kingdom” or join with America for their long term democratic security and growth. English is already a functioning language in Greenland just like it already is in greater Scandinavia. Maybe we just give the negotiated sale price directly to the Greenlanders and skip anything more to do with Denmark since they are so rude, and everyone in Greenland will be substantially wealthy for life.

The population of Greenland is 88% Inuit and 12% Scandinavian descent, which is far more in line with the populations of Inuit in Canada or Alaska. The Inuit have far more in common with North America than Daneland and if they look/see how well the Inuit have it in NA, it should be obvious they would rather be with USA than Europe. Anyways, Greenland is already geologically part of North America and on this side of the Atlantic. We look forward soon to welcoming the Greenlanders to the USA. #MakeGreenlandGreenAgain

John Tillman
Reply to  Earthling2
August 22, 2019 5:13 pm

Sorry, but no Inuit in USA. Alaskan Eskimos are either Iñupiat on the north coast or Yupik on the west. Iñupiat are distantly related to Inuit, but their languages aren’t very mutually intelligible, and culture differs in important ways. The Iñupiat of western Canada can communicate fairly well with both their Alaskan kin and eastern Canadian Inuit neighbors. Yupik is not mutually intelligible with Inuit either of Canada or Greenland.

Earthling2
Reply to  John Tillman
August 22, 2019 8:53 pm

Yes, you are right John, but I think they prefer being called Inuit rather than Eskimo, which is now considered a slur, at least to all of them. While the local Alaskan might know them as Iñupiat, not everyone in the lower 48 would know that so they are got grouped in with the largest modern ethnic group to the east and are often referred to as in the Inuit native family. They did share the relatively recent common ancestor, the Thule, just 1000-2000 years ago so genetically they are nearly the exact same peoples. They are also very distinct from the native indigenous Indians or First Nations peoples and the Metis, being relatively recent immigrants from Siberia. In the case of Greenland Inuit, the Norse actually preceded them so shows how recent human migrations have been. Now they are considered indigenous as having been here since time immemorial while the European settlers are referred to as…settlers. But now I digress.

From Wiki: “The Iñupiat (or Inupiaq) are a group of Alaska Natives, whose traditional territory roughly spans northeast from Norton Sound on the Bering Sea to the northernmost part of the Canada–United States border. By cultural and linguistic origin, they are an Inuit people.”

“According to the 2000 United States Census there were a total of 16,581 Inuit/Inupiat living throughout the country. The majority, about 14,718, live in the state of Alaska.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C3%B1upiat

John Tillman
Reply to  Earthling2
August 22, 2019 9:34 pm

Alaskan Eskimos do not like being called Inuit, because they aren’t.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_Circumpolar_Council

Inuit of Canada object to “Eskimo”, but American Eskimos embrace it.

http://www.necalaska.org/

Eskimo communities in Alaska use it, just American Indians are OK with “Indian”. Americans don’t have to adopt Canadian PC terminology when it doesn’t correspond to our linguistic and cultural reality.

John Tillman
Reply to  Earthling2
August 22, 2019 9:38 pm

Yes, the Iñupiat are distantly related to the Inuit, but the Yupik are even less so. Why should eastern Canadians apply their group name to all peoples in their language family?

The closest to a PC term for Eskimo would be Thule, but the problem there is that Thule is at the end, not the beginning of the Eskimo migration from Siberia and Alaska across the Neo-Arctic.

Wiliam Haas
Reply to  Earthling2
August 22, 2019 8:45 pm

If Greenland were going to join with another country then Canada would appear to be a better choice for them then the USA. Just look at a map of the World.

whiten
August 22, 2019 2:12 pm

Maybe other countries out there already thinking and aiming at getting Greenland, makes USA to consider being the first to put the bid up.

You see, maybe China or Russia already seriously considering the same.

Which it means that USA under the circumstances, for strategical purposes must get first and very strongly engaged at such as affair… for its own best position.

Not strange to really consider that Greenland might have a very significant geographical territory position in strategical meaning, especially these later days…
(maybe not so much when Europe considered, no much loss or gain for Europe there,
but on the other hand quite significant for other “big players”, like China or Russia)

Oh, just maybe… only just maybe.

cheers

John Tillman
Reply to  whiten
August 22, 2019 6:29 pm

Greenland and part of Iceland lie on the North American Plate. Geologically, geographically, ethnically and culturally, Greenland belongs with North America.

whiten
Reply to  John Tillman
August 23, 2019 2:28 pm

Thanks John,
for caring to reply to me.

But to be fair my point put forward in my above comment is not much related in consideration of natural geology, geography or ethnicity or cultural merit, as simply as put.

Simply happens to be considered within plain strategical relations, within the next probable future economical competition of the strongest capital economies of this world, so to speak.

Consider the last meeting between Macron and Putin.
Very much orientated on the point that Russia indisputably is and happens to be european, and therefore it belongs and must belong and must be part of Europe as a nation,
where as it straightly comes from the “horses mouth”, this will result and conclude with the Europe’s geographical expansion reaching from Atlantic to Vladivostok.

Making the Greenland affair look really like small patato in comparison… at the first look of it.

Europe, by the looks of it is already aiming far higher, within the consideration of such an angle… and it does not look like a joke;
in contrary it looks more like a quite pretty serious affair.

Again, Macron, in behalf of EU, “aggressively” has already invited and offered to Russia a real chance to be part of EU (bought in to it),
when in the same time clearly stating the main point of beneficial outcome…. EU’s geographical expansion reaching as far as Vladivostok.

Ok, this may very well be just one of this weird and very bizarre coincidences there.

Again, just saying.

Thanks, John.

cheers

John Tillman
Reply to  whiten
August 23, 2019 7:59 pm

Nato already offered to let Russia join, but the Rodina wasn’t interested.

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