Katharine Hayhoe Attacks Greta Thunberg’s Climate “Shaming” Crusade

Katharine Hayhoe. By Jay Godwin (source flickr), Link. Greta Thunberg (source Twitter)

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to US climate change campaigner Katharine Hayhoe, Greta Thunberg’s attempts to shame people into climate action are counterproductive.

Shaming people into fighting climate change won’t work, says scientist

Climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe says trying to inspire people is more effective

CBC Radio · Posted: Aug 19, 2019 9:30 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago

Climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe says strategies that aim to shame aren’t effective.

Hayhoe recalls being told by a fellow climate activist that “every time you turn on your car, you’re sinning.

“My visceral reaction to somebody saying that to me was: ‘Oh, so when I take my child to the doctor, you’re saying I’m sinning? When I go to work to support my family, I’m sinning?'”

She told Galloway “that shaming made me want to just go out and find a Hummer and drive circles around that person.

Read more: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-august-19-2019-1.5251826/shaming-people-into-fighting-climate-change-won-t-work-says-scientist-1.5251832

I can understand Katharine Hayhoe lashing out – when is the last time Katharine was invited to speak to the European Union or French or British Parliaments?

But Katharine’s impatience with this new climate hero upstart in my opinion has led her to make a classic strategic error.

Update (EW): Katharine seems a bit unhappy at this post:

The following is a screenshot of the title of the CBC article:

Shaming people into fighting climate change won’t work, says scientist

Archive of the CBC article available here:

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August 19, 2019 6:08 pm

Katharine Hayhoe should talk, given all the nonsense she has spewed. I’ll take Lil Greta any day. She doesn’t much know what is really going, but at least she puts her money where her mouth is. All of those so called climate scientists should take a slow boat to Chile.

David Chappell
Reply to  Earthling2
August 19, 2019 7:17 pm

Don’t you really mean “but at least she puts somebody else’s money where her mouth is.” I can’t see her paying for her luxury transatlantic cruise out of her own (or her parents’) pocket.

Reply to  David Chappell
August 19, 2019 8:49 pm

Well, Greta probably doesn’t have any money and it is all a stunt anyway. This isn’t about money but about optics. It is all absurdity and farce now, although the message we skeptics should be stating is that all the other scientists and celebrities going to the Chile shindig are hypocrites compared to Greta, telling the rest of the world to lay off the carbon, while they indulge themselves up to their eyeballs in their scientific malfeasance. That is the split between Greta’s message of her supposed purity and their hypocrisy. She really believes it, but I don’t think we can hold her responsible given the manipulation all her short life by her parents.

Just listening to Hayhoe bellyache is music to my ears. Both sides are bizarre and it looks like a small wedge forming between the idealists and the crooked likes of Big Klimate. We should give it a push.

Reply to  Earthling2
August 19, 2019 11:39 pm

There are many reports that Greta’s parents are making a fortune off of their child. Her mother’s first book publication about impending doom was tied to Greta’s first major appearance. I suspect they have plenty of money but they will make more if Greta toes the line and behaves as the sacrificial lamb.

Steve Borodin
Reply to  Earthling2
August 20, 2019 1:41 am

I prefer to think of them as child abusers rather than parents. Think of the psychological problems that Greta will face when, inevitably, her whole world comes tumbling down and she realizes that she has made a fool of herself in front of millions of people.

Reply to  Steve Borodin
August 21, 2019 2:14 am

She already has psychological problems, which her mother pointed out in a book. Greta has gone weeks without eating (does she look 16?) at times as a result of problems attendant with being on the autism spectrum; her younger sister has similar troubles. Her focus on climate is typical of the kind of single-mindedness these children can develop; unfortunately for the world, Greta didn’t memorize train timetables instead.
Using her to fight “climate change” is like using a child born without legs to collect money from passersby.

Mike Ozanne
Reply to  David Chappell
August 19, 2019 10:33 pm

we can all manage sustainable travel provided we can :

Borrow a rich man’s toy at no cost
Which has a carbon footprint from construction that makes a brontosaurus track look like a chihuahua’s
endure accommodation and rations that would disgrace an 18th century blackbirder
accept that as a consequence more people will use air travel than if you had flown yourself
don’t mind a ride quality similar to a rapid transit over rough terrain in an AFV
can afford a 4 weeks travel time extension to the trip.
Are willing to accept a high level of personal risk, not to deliver a vaccine or search for the cure to cancer, but to attend a talking shop that won’t decide anything.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Mike Ozanne
August 20, 2019 2:58 am

You hit the proverbial nail on the head, great post.

Jim Whelan
Reply to  Mike Ozanne
August 20, 2019 10:58 am

And don’t have to count other people’s “carbon expenditures” in making it happen. (Otherwise it’s far from “sustainable”)

Reply to  Mike Ozanne
August 20, 2019 2:08 pm

We too did 11,000 km with our 2007 A4 Audi diesel in 3 weeks visiting cold and very wet Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. Even Calais was cold and wet and we could not dry the tent before we were home in Barcelona.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Earthling2
August 19, 2019 7:35 pm

The good professor thinks scary drought scenarios are more inspiring than end-of-times carbon-cult religion. Too bad nature has already rained on (or flooded) her parade!

Don B
Reply to  Earthling2
August 20, 2019 2:02 pm

Which one has the most climate science credibility?

Hayhoe is a Professor of Political Science at Texas Tech [!] who learned her communication skills from her Evangelical preacher husband.
Greta is an uneducated 16 year old with psychological difficulties who has a zombie stare.

Tough decision.

Guy G
Reply to  Don B
August 23, 2019 3:51 am

What an ugly comment about a young person, actually any person who appears different . Education is a virtue only if it removes ignorance and increases curiosity about things that appear strange and inexplicable. I will always be more impressed by people who behave in an ‘educated’ way rather than by the string of abbreviations they put after their names.

John Tillman
August 19, 2019 6:16 pm

Part and parcel of being a teen-ager is to call sophomoric BS on the obvious hypocrisy of grown-ups, who need to live in the real world in order to support their families.

But that doesn’t excuse Heyhoe, who, like all her fellow alarmists, want the hoi poloi deplrables to revert to the 17th century, while they, thanks to their sanctimonious wokeness, enjoy dispensations to behave as 21st century saviors of humanity (whose numbers they want to reduce by an order of magnitude).

As a minor, Greta can’t be blamed for advocating mass genocide. Hayhoe, not so much.

jo blo
Reply to  John Tillman
August 19, 2019 10:17 pm

My niece was diagnosed with aspergers, she can be infuriating to deal with because of her bluntness and unconcern about others feelings, but I’ve managed to become the best in the family at persuading her because of a couple factors.

What seems to work with her is to present her with facts, don’t let her get you mad, and don’t try emotional or authoritarian appeals. People with aspergers are accustomed to angry disputes with others, and are likely to have been badly treated by those they see as dumb, emotional – hostility and bullying from other teens.

That’s my observation of my niece – results may vary. It seems like she is very appreciative of being reasoned with, and given credit for smarts – which is often the case with aspergers types because of their ability to hyperfocus and use reasoning skills surprising in a teen girl. They are said to have a hard time learning social rules – but those are vague, subjective, contextual – so when they are presented with logical rules for reasoning and debating they are likely to take a great interest? (till they learn that most people actually think emotionally)?

Somebody with a clear, concise explanation could turn her against the bullying, lying and emotional appeals that are the usual tactics of leftists could well turn her against the Commisars that are putting her into a terribly adversarial position and adding a big load of hostile interactions to the emotional problems a young woman with socialization deficits is likely to have. I’m very upset to think of the load they are dumping on her. She can probably handle angry debate, but she surely doesn’t need more emotional trauma.

Be nice to her, reason with her like an adult or maybe a lawyer, give her something to think about other than appeals to authority and emotional threats to her social life. She’s probably smart enough to tell the difference between that and the leftist tactics she’s surely gotten from her “friends”.
? appoint a debate champ, who speaks her native tongue?

jo blo
Reply to  jo blo
August 19, 2019 10:37 pm

What I mean by “clear, concise explanation” is to give an overview of factors like absorption spectra, positive feedback, and point out that temperatures rapidly decrease where there is little H2O vapor and only CO2 to stop heat from radiating to space rapidly (deserts, arctic, airliner height, low humidity nights). And mention that convection is a huge factor in heat transfer to the upper air(70% ) and a big negative feedback .

Smart, educated people have a drawback explaining things to ignorant people – this is a teen girl. The general public is given obfuscating, emotional arguments from the warmists and skeptics may well be talking over their heads, and well beyond their interest in learning about it. Stick to the stuff that ??

Dr Deanster
Reply to  jo blo
August 20, 2019 6:05 am

So …. IOW …. Greta is just a product of her lunatic parents, who have probably prevented her from being exposed to fact and truth.

More evidence they are engaged in child abuse, not parenting.

jo blo
Reply to  Dr Deanster
August 20, 2019 2:36 pm

Yes, but it’s not just her that has been terribly mal -educated on the topic. The warmists are abusing the whole world with their BS, and actual scientists are perhaps reluctant to yell BS! about a field they don’t specialize in, are hampered in their ability to reach the general public because of biased media, and the discussion at sites like this may be too educated for most people to learn from.

Something simple and persuasive, that can be yelled at a rally and is hard to unhear without provoking a bit of thought. I dunno, maybe: “hot air rises, and it’s cold as hell up there w/o water vapor” – this uses a couple facts that most anybody likely knows, and introduces the idea that water vapor is the cause of most greenhouse effect – a fact obfuscated by warmists.

jo blo
Reply to  Dr Deanster
August 20, 2019 2:53 pm

a haiku?

– hot air rises high
-it is cold as hell up there
– because no H2O

Reply to  jo blo
August 20, 2019 12:35 pm

Apart from the fact that little Greta claims to be able to see CO2. That puts her firmly in the stark raving mad category. She needs professional help, not more airtime.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 3:35 am

On point. The Climateers want me dead. They want a lot of people dead. They have a long list, and keep adding to it, every day. But that’s leftists and left-ism for ya – a giant death cult. Anyone with two working brain cells can predict what will happen if the Climateers get their way. But few ever call them out on it.

Jerry Travelstead
Reply to  John Tillman
August 20, 2019 1:46 pm

(snipped. Mod.) do you really think her lifetime of study and achievement is complete (snipped. mod)? You must be crazy. Go read the stuff she’s done and tell me honestly that you think it’s false.

August 19, 2019 6:17 pm

I would leave a longer reply, but I’d feel too guilty about the cost of electricity to keep my computer on any longer.

Off to eat some sprouts now and light the candles.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 19, 2019 8:32 pm

Shame! Shaaaame!

Light the candleS? You must make do with one candle Repent, sinner, and say 25 Hail Gretas for your penance.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 19, 2019 8:51 pm

Don’t let your methane emissions near the candle, Robert.

Reply to  Mr.
August 20, 2019 2:18 am

Good way to ease him into the next phase of collecting his farts in a plastic bag to heat and cook with.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 19, 2019 9:08 pm

Stop !!!

Most candles are made from fossil fuels. You are adding to the problem.

Try catching fireflies in a jar. 100% natural.

Reply to  Sheldon Walker
August 20, 2019 3:37 am

Nope. Where do glass jars and metal lids come from? THINK, man!

Big T
Reply to  Sheldon Walker
August 20, 2019 3:41 am

Except for the jar

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Sheldon Walker
August 20, 2019 6:32 am

SINNER! Catching fireflies against their will is upsetting the natural balance!

August 19, 2019 6:31 pm

You can argue someone into a corner with facts and logic. Even so, people realize when things aren’t fair even when they don’t have the words to prevail in an argument. That’s why the forgotten people elected President Trump, and lied about their intentions on the polls.

You can shame people into submission but eventually you’ll get your comeuppance.

Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
Reply to  commieBob
August 20, 2019 12:59 am

I don’t think it’s got anything to do with lying. If you’re the kind of person who is obsessed with listening to the fake news, then you’re the kind of person who is really easy for the pollsters to contact. So, polls overwhelmingly represent the people who listen to fake news and those people are indoctrinated to be anti-Trump (or anti-Brexit in the UK).

Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 20, 2019 9:44 pm

The polls are not diagnostic or predictive. They’re intended to discourage conservative voters from showing up and to determine how many illegal aliens must be transported to vote.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  commieBob
August 20, 2019 4:58 am

Why do you call Trump voters the “forgotten people”? There were many somewhat liberal people who simply hated Hillary Clinton and would never vote for her. My brother and his wife both voted for Obama and then Trump. As for the majority of Trump voters, they would have voted for whoever the Republican candidate was. Trump just energized some followers and puts on a good show, he is not another Hitler like the Democrats would like you to believe.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
August 20, 2019 9:19 am

See the online discussion of why Trump won by Victor David Hanson. It explains who the forgotten are.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
August 21, 2019 2:11 pm

Thanks. He points out that 85% of geographical America voted for Trump and a mere 15% voted for Ms. Clinton. That has to be a problem.

… crude authenticity and polished hypocrisy. link

Indeed. It could well be that our beloved Greta doesn’t have the intellectual capacity to be a hypocrite. You go girl!

If you read the linked article, you may become ‘woke’, just not the way the SJWs define the term.

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
August 21, 2019 1:29 pm

Crispin in Waterloo,

“See the online discussion of why Trump won by Victor David Hanson. It explains who the forgotten are.”

Seems you2 remember Peterloo:


August 19, 2019 6:35 pm

Did not think I would ever agree with Katherine on anything. Changed my mind.

August 19, 2019 6:38 pm

If Hayhoe were a witch, I bet she wouldn’t fly her broom because first class with the mortals is much nicer.

August 19, 2019 6:39 pm

Maybe Hayhoe needs pigtails to keep her younger sister from getting the spotlight and all the action!

August 19, 2019 6:40 pm

It’s an adventure.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  n.n
August 19, 2019 7:43 pm

It’s just the left eating their own, look the other way and hurry by.

Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 19, 2019 8:35 pm

Naw, pop up some popcorn and pull up a lawn chair.

Reply to  Marv
August 20, 2019 9:01 am

And do not forget to wish them ‘bon apetit’.

Joel O'Bryan
August 19, 2019 6:43 pm

Although Greta is a joke IMO, her enablers, enablers who want my electric bills to double or triple, and gas pump prices to triple so they can acquire more political power and money in their hedge funds and “green” renewable energy investments, are NOT a joke.

Greta’s enablers are to be taken seriously for their planning-execution of a propaganda campaign to destroy Western free-market capitalist society and the large middle class that has produced.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 20, 2019 10:09 pm

Shame does not not work on Socialists however Eric. It is a one-sided assault.
Shame for socialists does not exist, those think they are correct in dictating to others the behaviors they should conform to. Obama, DeBlasio, Bloomberg, all are shameless hypocrites who tell others how to behave without applying that normative behavior to themselves.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 20, 2019 3:46 am

Think Orwell’s “1984.” Only instead of a giant head of a mustached Big Brother staring down at you plastered on every wall, it’s a giant head of a pigtailed Big Greta. Goebbels would say “Absolutely brilliant.”

August 19, 2019 6:47 pm

…and yet….at the same time thinks making things up and flat out lying is the way to go

August 19, 2019 6:58 pm

I tried to get Katharine Hayhoe to make a short stop to visit with us when she was in California in her travels from LA to SF. Atascadero is smack dab in the center. Our nearest city is SLO and they have an airport.
I really believed that she was all about reducing CO2 emissions, and her being worried that the USA was falling behind at doing their part. We were in contact with her and her people and we informed her that we wanted to share our Affordable Carbon Capture Utilization System with her. https://youtu.be/RQRQ7S92_lo

She didn’t have time, and she never called back to reschedule anything. My question to her is “Is Climate Change Really Important To You?” or does it pay you well to travel and speak about climate change.

Sid Abma
(805) 462-1250

Reply to  Sid Abma
August 19, 2019 7:12 pm

Well, whaddya know. I actually agree with Katharine Hayhoe about something climate-related. That’s a first!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sid Abma
August 19, 2019 8:25 pm

“We were in contact with her and her people”

Katherine has people? How many? How much money do they get paid? Who pays them? Just curious.

Do all high-profile alarmists have people?

Rod Evans
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 19, 2019 10:53 pm

Do all high profile alarmists have people?
We call them minions where I come from. The minions just don’t realise their social position…yet.

Reply to  Sid Abma
August 19, 2019 11:44 pm

Funny, all the talk about reducing emissions, the Paris Accord etc., but guess who is the only developed, major country to have actually cut emissions?

U.S. Cuts ‘Global Warming’ Gases Faster Than Anyone Else, But Media Ignore It

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/u-s-cuts-global-warming-gases-faster-than-anyone-else-but-media-ignore-it/ via @IBDeditorials

August 19, 2019 6:59 pm

Hmm… the CAGW Propagandist attacking the CAGW Messiah. This could be interesting.

Johne Morton
Reply to  SMC
August 19, 2019 7:56 pm

I’m reminded of Trotsky and Stalin…

Doug Lough
August 19, 2019 7:08 pm

I admire Greta Thunberg for her dedication but it would help if she actually knew what she was talking about.
She needs to gather all of the facts rather than go all “AOC” on people. Not to worried, she will grow up eventually.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Doug Lough
August 19, 2019 9:49 pm

Yeah, but she does not go to school.
How many people do you know who are well informed after dropping out of school prior to the age of 16?

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
August 20, 2019 9:10 pm

Maybe seeing 1100 ppm of CO2 in the classroom air gave her panic attacks.

Alastair Gray
August 19, 2019 7:14 pm

AGE is a religion and religions just love schisms _ think Sunni vs Shia or Protestant vs Catholic So we should do all we can to foster schisms in the church of Green Nuclear vs non nuclear Greta vs Kate Ball is in Greta’s court Time to cast out the apostate Greta. Go for it girl
I welcome further ammo for sowing dissent in th ranks of the faithful suggestions please?

Brian in Bunbury
August 19, 2019 7:21 pm

Hey Katharine, if you are reading this; you can rest easy. Greta has not shamed me into taking any action to fight climate change!

Alastair Gray
Reply to  Brian in Bunbury
August 19, 2019 11:21 pm

Did the GSA seek the opinion of its members prior to taking a AGW stance
The GeolSoc of London takes a similar stance but did not seek the opinion of its members before joining the crusade

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Brian in Bunbury
August 20, 2019 7:00 am

“Hey Katharine, if you are reading this; you can rest easy. Greta has not shamed me into taking any action to fight climate change!”

I think Katherine might be the one feeling shame. After all, she is the one complaining about it.

Brian Pratt
August 19, 2019 7:30 pm

I first heard of Hayhoe when she was interviewed on Canadian Broadcasting Corporation radio one Sunday afternoon in March a few years ago. She turns out to be one of the CBC’s regular go-to climate authorities—the distinction between a climate modeler and a climatologist being irrelevant—but she certainly has the communication skills to deliver exactly what they want to hear. Anyway, Hayhoe was recounting, much to the (conspiratorial) amusement of her host, how she had given an invited talk to the West Texas Geological Society, and painted a picture of an audience of grumpy, spluttering old men who needed to get into the 21st century in terms of climate change and by implication accepting women in science and technology. She told them a thing or two, by golly, that sort of thing, all of which was eagerly lapped up by the host. It was most ungracious to say the least, since she was their guest after all, and collectively there were centuries of advanced education and experience in the audience, even though it is just geology, not terribly scientific you know. Some were undoubtedly churchgoers, just like she is, so doubly disrespectful. Fortunately, the WTGS seems to be thriving regardless, oil and gas continues to be discovered, and one good thing about the radio is that most of the time things go in one ear and out the other. Hayhoe is an invited lunchtime speaker at the Geological Society of America annual meeting next month. Maybe she will stick around and discover a few things about the geological record of climate change, although my hopes are not high.

Reply to  Brian Pratt
August 19, 2019 9:32 pm

She thinks talking to skeptics is like playing Whack-A-Mole. She thinks she has them argued into a corner and they just bring up something else. That’s the joy of the skeptic position, there’s so much evidence and so many lines of reasoning. If it weren’t for its political utility, CAGW should have been dead and buried a long time ago.

Reply to  Brian Pratt
August 19, 2019 11:23 pm

I would have broken this large paragraph into at least 3 or 4 paragraphs.
I got half way through and quit.
Sorry Brian, , , ,

August 19, 2019 7:35 pm

“According to US climate change campaigner Katharine Hayhoe, Greta Thunberg’s attempts to shame people into climate action are counterproductive.”

Because she has been so successful… LOL.

August 19, 2019 7:54 pm
John I Reistroffer
August 19, 2019 8:35 pm

Who is handling this young person?

Her parents should be ashamed of themselves for letting their daughter be the poster child for this propaganda campaign.

Are her parents getting paid for their daughter’s participation in this show. I hope they are accompanying her on this trip across the Atlantic during hurricane season.

I don’t care how much money anybody could throw at me or my daughter, this would never happen in my family.

Reply to  John I Reistroffer
August 19, 2019 11:20 pm

This Quillette article from April may give you some insight into the parental motives: […] The book Scenes from the Heart (“Scener från Hjärtat,” 2018) recounts these medical difficulties and the events that led to Greta Thunberg’s now-famous “school strike for climate,” in which hundreds of thousands of children have refused to attend school to protest about government inaction over climate change. Greta herself strikes every Friday and spent three weeks sitting outside the Swedish Parliament at the beginning of the school year. Written by her family—mother, father, Beata and Greta—the story is told in the voice of Greta’s mother, the opera soprano Malena Ernman, who was a celebrity in Europe long before her daughter’s fame. Although the book is only available in Swedish for the time being, it is already being translated into numerous languages—a development that reflects the global fascination with Thunberg’s campaignhttps://quillette.com/2019/04/23/self-harm-versus-the-greater-good-greta-thunberg-and-child-activism. […] /?fbclid=IwAR02mGGHFxeW131IUpb1UMzbXV-l2_iifq9mv7flJmjxdGkVbZdSJTdjekM

high treason
August 19, 2019 8:42 pm

From history, we read of the Catholic Church seeking “indulgences” to absolve sinners of sin for a fee. This is exactly what we are seeing now- a sin tax that is actually a scam to extract easy money. The virtue signalling and subsidising all but useless renewable power is a modern day example of this age old theme.
The Vatican became extremely rich and powerful on the back of the indulgences scam. The UN is now becoming rich and powerful on the back of their cAGW scam.
How convenient that the UN is the organisation that both promotes the notion of cAGW/ “climate change” at the same time as raking in hundreds of billions a year to “combat” “climate change”, which is their invention. And to think it is so serious we are not even allowed to debate the issue-the science is settled and you will be shamed and lose your job if you dare question the narrative.
How much like dung beetles have humans become. Only a dung beetle should be swallowing so much BS. What is even more absurd is that humans chase down the buckets of BS with Kool aid.

Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
Reply to  high treason
August 20, 2019 1:04 am

The analogy would be lord who in order to absolve himself of the sins of raping and pillaging …. goes out to rape and pillage to pay the indulgences.

For all we are doing by pushing “Green economics” is giving an almighty boost to fossil fuel consumption to build all the Green rubbish which because the green rubbish hardly reduces fossil fuel usage at all, the whole scam is just increasing fossil fuel use (albeit mainly in China).

August 19, 2019 9:32 pm

There’s a little background in an article in the Americanthinker:

Just like AOC she’s just an invention of elites.

August 19, 2019 9:43 pm

Someone send Keyhoe one of these stickers


John Robertson
August 19, 2019 9:49 pm

All i’m hearing from Hayhoe is naked jealousy,she has been upstaged by the Child Crusader and is losing the spotlight.
Even CBC ignores her as the fawn over St Greta .
Hayhoe has lost her position as victim and virtue signaller of the week.
And to top it off,Greta of the 100 yard zombie stare is still cuter than Climate Nag and scold Hayhoe,hayhoe.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
Reply to  John Robertson
August 20, 2019 1:13 am

Nail hit well and truly on the head…older sister not pleased

August 19, 2019 10:01 pm

Gosh darn it! Elton balanced the carbon footprint by paying the tax, or something, on behalf of the Royals private jet trips! They really needed to get away from their stressful lives!
Oops, sorry. Wrong article.

August 19, 2019 10:53 pm

Brian Pratt
Your post includes that Hayhoe will be a speaker at a Geological Society of America luncheon.
The society believes in man-caused global warming.
Check out their website.

Rod Evans
August 19, 2019 11:24 pm

This is quite funny to watch and hear. The climate alarmists are vying for who should be poster child for their scamocracy.
Clearly it must be someone that has camera appeal and looks marketable, (that rules you out Michael M) it must be a female because in the world of woke, to be anything other than female is itself a sin, (sorry Al, being a self identifying woman, isn’t quite the same). The poster child, should also be someone young, innocent, vulnerable that kind of image, the usual ad man/woman’s go to look.
Please welcome on board the scam express, Greta from Sweden. If the Swedish entertainment industry have any sense, they will make her their next Eurovision candidate, singing “Where have all the icebergs gone, long time melting” or some such ditty. She would automatically win, then go on and be given a Nobel prize for Entertainment. Eat your heart out Barack those peace prize awards are old hat.

Reply to  Rod Evans
August 20, 2019 2:08 am

I think a more appropriate song is
even sounds like her

Dudley Horscroft
Reply to  ozspeaksup
August 22, 2019 3:13 am

Wonderful, the CAGW theme song. Mind you, never heard of the Flying Lizards before.

Although we did have the Lizard of Oz as a Treasurer and then Prime Minister. But I don’t think he was particularly worried about CAGW. Just about getting money (as Treasurer).

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Rod Evans
August 20, 2019 4:23 am

I would simply add that the person must be someone with an affliction that can be used to demonize anyone who challenges her.

Flight Level
August 20, 2019 12:29 am

A green shark in cannibalistic mood wants a morsel of another younger of the same species. Ladies and gentlemen, let the show begin !

Obviously until child protection services finally pull the curtain for engaging a kid in a high-risk activity.

I’m not a statistician however my little finger says that those crossing oceans onboard air liners suffer much less pro-capita soul losses than the ones doing the same trip on racing boats.

Which is why, this whole adventure is highly immoral by all definitions.

Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 20, 2019 12:48 am

The entire climate cult suffer from EHS (Extreme Hypocrisy Syndrome). This is all that allows them to stand up in public one day and say that everyone else must cut back and turn the economic clock back centuries, whilst they then go on fossil fuel burning foreign trips and buy goods and services produced by burning tonnes of fossil fuels.

They are literally the climate change deniers. They deny natural variation, then they deny the actual temperature of the globe as measured by satellites, then they deny that their own actions have any contribution to the amount of fossil fuels burnt. Everything they criticise sceptics for, THEY DO FAR FAR WORSE.

Bruce Cobb
August 20, 2019 12:58 am

Hayhoe couldn’t be more wrong of course. The CAGW religion is all about using guilt. People are supposed to feel guilty about their “carbon footprint”. That makes them easier to manipulate. Yeah, she’s just jealous of the little upstart hogging the limelight.

Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 20, 2019 1:00 am

Perhaps Katharine Hayhoe should try having plaited hair and she would be considered a climate expert.

August 20, 2019 1:05 am

The question no seems to be able to answer is how Greta is getting back yo Sweden !
Lets take a guess that will be via ‘evil fossil fuels ‘ and there will be zero press coverage of that .

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 20, 2019 1:08 am

Oh the shame of it! Ignomy! Ignomy! They all have it i’n ‘o’ me! (Julius Ceasar in ‘Carry On Cleo’)

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
August 20, 2019 2:23 am

Sorry folks. The quote is ‘infamy, infamy, they all have it in fa me’. And the shame thingy is lady Catherine in Pride and Prejudice. Saw them a long time ago and old age is catching up; I don’t recommend old age. The Carry On has one of the best two-worders ever: Marc Anthony exits Cleo’s room and says excitedly: ‘Oh puer, oh puer!’ Look it up.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
August 20, 2019 3:33 am

And not to forget Carry On Columbus.

Chiquita is peering over the edge of Columbus’s ship in the middle of the night. Marco the Cereal Killer comes up behind her and warns her against thinking about going for a swim…

Marco: I wouldn’t if I were you, miss. I’ve heard that these waters are full of man-eating sharks.

Chiquita: Oh no! So if I fell in, do you think they’d swallow me hole?

Marco: No, I’m told they spit that bit out.

David S
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
August 20, 2019 10:50 am

Since you recommend against old age can you recommend any alternatives?

The Geezer

Paul Beaumont
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
August 20, 2019 2:32 am

it was infamy, they all have it in for me I think

August 20, 2019 3:15 am

Last I heard poor Greta’s million dollar yacht is bacalmed in mid Atlantic.
Using 15th Century transport is great, is’nt it!
And girls did not attend school either in the 15th Century.
That calm is before the next Atlantic storms.
She might well be late for the star UN appearance!
Blame it on CO2.

Reply to  bonbon
August 20, 2019 5:14 am
Reply to  bonbon
August 20, 2019 6:09 am

Where did you get the information that Malizia 2 is becalmed? The last AIS position I can find was Aug 15, 2019 00:32 UTC, about 100 miles north east of Cape Finisterre. OTOH, I’m not going to spend 1188 euros to get satellite data. https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/MALIZIA2SOLOSAILOR-IMO-0-MMSI-211768710

August 20, 2019 4:36 am

Katharine Haywho?

August 20, 2019 5:15 am

Anyone know how Greta Thingummy is getting on in that racing yacht – which is like being offered a lift on a Formula 1 racing car..? The Sunday Times had an interesting piece about the deafening noise and endless crashing into waves she’ll be enduring while trying to – ha! – sleep…
Then there’s the bone-idle journalism that picks up that ‘the batteries are kept topped up by solar panels and a wind turbine..’ Quite correct – but exactly like every other ocean-going yacht on the planet….
Oh, yes – anyone mentioned how – even if she makes it – she’s going to get back to Europe..? Same method of transport – or smuggled onto a private jet, paid for by the UN..?

Joe Veragio
Reply to  David
August 20, 2019 6:36 am

It’s a great adventure for the kid. I hope she enjoys it. You can follow her progress here. Maybe she’ll learn something from the experience.


Rod Evans
Reply to  Joe Veragio
August 20, 2019 12:00 pm

Hopefully she will come to realise the world is big and humans are little, no matter how big their ego’s are. She will certainly learn why aeroplanes became popular modes of transport for transatlantic crossings….

August 20, 2019 6:08 am

Classic case of jealousy — I hate her, she’s getting all the attention!

Joe Veragio
August 20, 2019 6:14 am

That’s not really fair of Hayhoe. Greta began by inspiring youngsters, however misguidedly, with a day off school until the adults piled in and started writing her speeches. Her tone has since begun to come across as scolding, governments, politicians and authorities but as a child she is not really equipped to engage openly with the debate so is there anywhere else for her to go now but simply echoing the talking points she is being fed?

August 20, 2019 6:14 am

I guess mud wrestling is coming back as entertainment.

August 20, 2019 6:19 am

Where did you get the information that Malizia 2 is becalmed? The last AIS position I can find was Aug 15, 2019 00:32 UTC, about 100 miles north east of Cape Finisterre. OTOH, I’m not going to spend 1188 euros to get satellite data. https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/MALIZIA2SOLOSAILOR-IMO-0-MMSI-211768710

August 20, 2019 6:37 am

If I was Katharine Hayhoe I would also be very worried. How can we continue to do Climate Summits, with lots of fanfarre and scare without fossil fuels? If the Greta’s fashion glues, at least the CAGW summit attendees will have to convince some rich guy with a Iate to take them and be, at least, a few weeks without scare anyone (unless they have a internet system connected to the iridium network, taking some fossil fuel consumption to work).

Paul R Johnson
August 20, 2019 7:23 am

Note the use of “sinning” to describe use of fossil fuel. Thus Climatology has made the transition from a science driven by objective Facts to a religious cult governed by subjective and ever-shifting moral Truth.
Of course, some now favor Truth over Facts.

Ethically Civil
August 20, 2019 9:10 am

David Weber and Eric Flint “Empire of Man” series posited an empire based on this shaming taken to the power of the nation state — “The Caravazan Empire” — that world conquer worlds and work there populations to death remove the contamination of man until the world was “restored” and the population was what could be carried without environmental impacts — i.e. human in hovels. The Imperial leadership governing those worlds lived in palaces, of course. They had the heavy burden of protecting Nature of course, and couldn’t allow the inconveniences of primitive life to interfere with that high duty and eternal vigilance.

Sometimes I think that’s how these folks see the perfect end state….

August 20, 2019 9:32 am

Ms. Hayhoe, if your climate science was solid enough to persuade the average honest scientist or engineer you wouldn’t have to “sell” the public on it. We would all be on board. None of us wants to destroy the earth. But neither do we want to be slaves to evil lying unaccountable power grabbing Authoritarian Totalitarian Tyrants.

But…all we see from climate Alarmists is very inscientific name calling and slander and lies and propaganda. There is no attempt to answer pointed questions, like why no Alarmist predictions are coming true, or why do Alarmists say that extreme weather is getting worse when it isn’t.


Everything you Alarmists say and do makes no sense to anyone who is paying attention to everything you say and do.

August 20, 2019 10:18 am

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Mark Broderick
Reply to  Kenji
August 20, 2019 1:32 pm

We see nothing but hate, anger and violence coming from these so-called “tolerant” left wing nuts..The situation is getting dangerous.
When Trump wins his 2nd term…BOOM !

Reply to  Mark Broderick
August 20, 2019 3:34 pm

I pray the climate puppet gets the chance to become a REAL little girl … although I expert her father is only a wooden replica of Geppetto … and has ceded his humanity to “the cause”

August 20, 2019 12:02 pm

I personally think that Hayhoe’s shameless admissions that she feels “0%” guilt after booking “some long haul flights for my family to enjoy some winter sun on the beach this Christmas” can come back to bite her.

The whole point of the situation is that under current framework Hayhoe should feel very guilty about going on Christmas vacation to some far-off place. In fact, she should feel a lot more guilty than a person who uses a less fuel efficient car, or lives in a bigger home, or eats beef, for crying out loud, but doesn’t do such vacations: the level of carbon emissions for such flights is not negligible, and is typically comparable to driving a similar distance in a car – per person. With a family of four, obviously, you need to multiply the amount.

Hayhoe obviously shows that when it comes to the Green Gentry, it’s their spending they feel 0% guilt about, and it’s everyone else’s that should be curbed. Which is why the whole situation stinks.

August 20, 2019 1:22 pm

Green nut job envy.

Gunga Din
August 20, 2019 3:12 pm

This is kind of like Pelosi saying AOC is “off the rails”.

David Cage
August 21, 2019 1:12 am

I have just bought a hybrid car. Level of guilt 50%. Why? It was a triumph of economy over a belief I should maximise my consumption to emphasise that until climate science has gone to court to prove its case it has no
justification for any coercive action using legal or moral pressure to mitigate the claimed damage from so called man made climate change that to my mind the evidence they produce proves conclusively it is natural.
If I could have afforded it and parking was easier round here I would have bought a limo I feel so strongly against her and her kind of crooked Orwellian big sisters.

August 21, 2019 1:06 pm

Church lady meets Bernadette of Our Lady of the Climate Crusades and immaculate deception.

August 22, 2019 3:28 am

Archive of the CBC article available here:

So HeyHo is correct , she did not “attack” St Greta about shaming, she did not use the word shaming. That was typical misrepresentation by the hack journo.

Nice to find one time I can agree with HeyHo-away we go.

Bill Watson
August 26, 2019 1:52 pm

Jeez. Pollyanna Ho hum and Greta Longstocking, living in the world as it is.

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