From The Washington Post Via MSN News
Juliet Eilperin
A State Department intelligence official who was blocked by the White House from submitting written congressional testimony on climate change last month is resigning from his post.
Rod Schoonover — who worked in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research’s Office of the Geographer and Global Issues — spoke before the House Intelligence Committee on June 5 about the security risks the United States faces because of climate change. But White House officials would not let him submit the bureau’s written statement that climate impacts could be “possibly catastrophic,” after the State Department refused to cut references to federal scientific findings on climate change.
Individuals familiar with the matter, who asked for anonymity to speak frankly, said Schoonover is leaving voluntarily. But the incident that led to his departure underscores the extent to which climate science has become contested terrain under the current administration.
Andrew Rosenberg, who directs the Center for Science and Democracy at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said in a phone interview Wednesday that federal experts should be free to provide their expertise with policymakers, even if it is at odds with the views of whoever occupies the Oval Office.
“This isn’t carrying forward your political opinions,” Rosenberg said. “This is bringing the work you’re hired to do in a policy setting.”
President Trump has repeatedly questioned the scientific consensus that human activity is driving recent climate change and that the planet’s warming poses a major security risk to the United States.
Asked about the matter Wednesday, a State Department official confirmed that Schoonover would step down Friday.
Schoonover, who has served in the federal government for roughly a decade, could not be reached for comment. Before working at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, he had served as director of environment and natural resources at the National Intelligence Council and as a full professor of chemistry and biochemistry at California Polytechnic State University at San Luis Obispo.
Three divisions of the White House, the Office of Legislative Affairs, the Office of Management and Budget and the National Security Council, all raised objections to parts of the State Department intelligence bureau’s testimony, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post. Ultimately, the Office of Legislative Affairs made the decision not to submit the document to the House Intelligence Committee.
One of the statements White House officials objected to was this observation: “Absent extensive mitigating factors or events, we see few plausible future scenarios where significant — possibly catastrophic — harm does not arise from the compounded effects of climate change.”
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….Drain that swamp…!
Poor poppet, harden up, skeptics have been banned having their say for ever.
My sincere comment: see ya! go peddle that fantasy at the EU
kenji July 11, 2019 at 5:37 pm
My sincere comment: see ya! go peddle that fantasy at the EU
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What a good idea. Just bury your head in the sand and everything will be alright.
What you want to hear may not be true. Time will tell
What security risks do you see in warming of the poles?
g half runt, you worry about the future while ignoring the present observations and the state of the oceans, which hold 99.9% of earths heat. That bedwetter doesn’t have anything new to offer and Trump has already heard Obama’s “security risk” propaganda. Trump should be listening to previously unheard voices of independent scientists well versed in the climate debacle but denied any legitimate and necessary discussion, all the while being defamed and ridiculed by the Malthusian-minded climate orthodoxy.
Can’t you see the political agenda behind the screen of “climate change security risks”?
What then, if climate changes for the colder and the middle latitudes can’t produce enough food (a much more historically based scenario) to feed the rest of the world?
Who has their head buried in the sand here? Certainly not the President.
you seem to be saying “I’m alright jack” and letting the rest of the world suffer. the security risk is that many will have to migrate towards the poles. does the USA not perceive a security risk from the Mexico border? Amplify this by significant amount and you have millions migrating/or dying!
the seas are indeed a large temperature sink. but don’t you see that a warmer ocean will have deleterious effects on its flora and fauna. some critters will become extinct others thrive. do you not see that warmer means more available energy and therefore the potential for worse storms etc. do yo not see warmer means more evaporation and hence more precipitation and therefore flooding.
One should only mess with the status quo with absolute knowledge of the final outcome. This may not affect you or you children but at some point if we make a wrong decision now many will suffer.
Better them, than us…
The warming allegedly caused by CO2 is all that separates us from “The Ice Age Cometh?”
Ghalfrunt some see the light at the end of the tunnel an on coming train. While others see the light as just the end of the tunnel.
The problem with your argument is that it comes across as a hand wringing unfounded fear of oncoming trains. As if an alarmists has planted it in your brain with so many horror stories of deaths in tunnels by oncoming trains.
p.s. in evolution there is no status quo. Everything is always changing and man is an apex species always striving for a better life. One unattainable without fossil fuel. The species most deserving of extinction is the fear mongering climate Alarmist.
Ghalfrut, your fears are unfounded. The planet is warming much less then the alarmists predicted. The tropics and subtropics are barely warming at all, and most of that small warming is at night.
The T differential that fuels storms is, if anything, reduced by expected warming patterns. ( evidence – zero increase in global ACE and a likely reduction in tornadoes.)
Also crop zones have not really moved at all, quite possibly they have expanded due to additional CO2; via increased drought tolerance and heat and cold tolerance and fewer freeze nights.
Cheer up, its all good, the benefits of CO2 continue to grow, the theoretical harms continue to fail to manifest.
Why not? Thirty years of failed alarmist claims have already put failed to their claims.
Add in thirty years of alarmist flip flopping every time their predicted alarms have failed:
• No snow -> lots of snow.
• No rain -> lots of rain.
• Drought -> Floods.
• Arctic ice disappears -> Arctic ice doesn’t disappear.
• Sea level rise flooding -> sea level maybe/perhaps/possibly some day in the future sea level rise.
• Warming climate -> zero change in growing zones.
Flip flopping destroys the alarmist claims. Now their predictions cover all possible just in case outcomes are no longer forecasts; they are fantasies.
• Repeated efforts of alarmists to try and find a more encompassing and frightening term for their alleged claims -> “
anthropogenic global warming“, “catastrophic anthropogenic global warming“, “global warming“, “climate disruption“, “climate emergency“, “climate change“, etc. etc. All of which prove that the cause of alleged “global warming” is propaganda to promote fear, destroy economies and force socialism upon Western Civilization.ghalfrunt, Do you even know if increasing levels of CO2 are bad? Maybe they are good! Maybe plant life will thrive to help the world feed its growing population. And if we implement severe restrictions on fossil fuels, might that hurt the poor, and even increase the number of poor? Do you know that many temperature sensors are now located next to heat-radiating parking lots, airports, cities, and air conditioner exhaust, and that if you only look at data from pristine temperature sensors that have been in open fields for decades they show there is no global warming? Do you even know that a Greenland glacier has grown in height by 90 feet/year the past three years? Do you know that none of the climate models have even come close to predicting the actual average global temperature? When a model fails, the “scientists” have either changed the actual historical measured temperatures using bogus reasoning and/or changed the mathematical formula for the period of time where it was inaccurate so the output of the model appears accurate? ghalfrunt, Don’t bury YOUR head in the sand and help lead humanity into poverty and global governmental control of our lives. Instead, continue to read the counter-information which doesn’t make it through the mainstream news filter in places like this web site.
No, no, no!
If you drain the swamp, dragonflies will have nothing to eat!!! Mosquitoes live in swamps! Don’t be so heartless!!!
#dragonfliesmatter!!!
Here in Finland we have lots of water, some 10 000 lakes. A man “invented” mosquito trap. He took floorfan and put pantyhose on it. After few minutes there was mosquitos in. And a newspaper made story about a new easy homemade mosquito trap.
Greens didn´t take that very well. They were furiously shouting that it´s not allowed to kill mosquitos, like we don´t have enough those annoying bloodsuckers. Greens reaction was priceless and very good indicator about their sense of humor.
Ps. We have very big and fat dragonflies here, so they are safe.
Having worked for the State Department “about ten years” would mean he was an Obama hire, and that administration was meticulous at ideologically vetting employees. And any comment about “this isn’t carrying forward your political opinions” is risible concerning climate change, which is political all the way down.
All I would say is”Buh-buy”!
Toilet flushed.
Only the first. T*rds still float to the top and need a lot of flushing (especially with the new ,Govn’mt mandated low-flush toilets). Gonna take a lot of flushes to drain out the swamp.
Naah, all that wet bathroom tissue on top will sink that mess with a single flush!!! 😉
Another leftist had this to say today:
Yeah. Duh. What we been saying!!
Just what I was thinking… time to get rid of another Obama watermelon in the State Department.
As the UN fessed up a few years back, CGW had nothing whatsoever to do with saving the planet,that was simply a device, a ploy, a deception (or lie as I call it), it was everything to do with creating the circumstances for the (il)legitimate formation of a Globul World Guvment claiming ownership of ALL world resources, that they will meter out as only they see fit, when & only when the good ‘ol USA has been dismantled & broken up into nice simple managable parcels of land, a’la Agenda 21, please read it despite its depressing totalitarian “it’s for your own good” underlying (the inclusion of the segment lying was intentional!) doctrine! 😉 I’m guessing the good ‘ol US of A is well on its way to achieving EU status, ruled & dictated to by un-elected, un-democratic, un-accountable, & un-sackable bunch of bureaucrats in charge of everything yet responsible for absolutely nothing! Sorry to depress on a Friday! 🙁
Alan, you are so right. EU is hell on earth. Some dictators somewhere are inventing totally idiotic rules to everybody.
If you have good depress, share it. We, all EU citizens have this good depress, and the load is growing day by day.
If they see no future without significant to catastrophic harm then they are obviously either wearing blinders or suffer from severe tunnel vision.
What flavor was the Kool-Aid?
The green blob has been predicting doom right soon now for the past 50 years, and it hasn’t happened yet.
Bryan,
I have to agree.
If the current trends continue the drop into a mini ice ages is going to screw over a LOT of people. The tunnel vision in refusing to even discuss the temp drop is in fact worrying.
(not personally what makes me sleepless in fear at night to be honest, but still worrying.)
Well, at least there’s some good news …
w.
Willis
I am surprised at your comment.
Do you have proof that the person was a wastrel?
Is it right that climatologists are prevented from informing the world of their research.? how do you criticise research if none is published?
Mr. Runt, I’m surprised that you show no indignation of the decades of climate sceptic research based on empirical scientific data (rather than GIGO climate models) that has been blocked and its proponents ousted and/or ridiculed for what the alarmists see as “climate heresy”.
ghalfrunt,
Not a climatologist. Was not presenting or publishing his non-existent research.
Oh Griff (aka ghalfrunt)!
Your constant trolling is so droll
Incessant name changing not so much
Top of the paid troll honor roll
With half-wit comments in the clutch
Do you make enough for a living wage
Zapping inanities to I’net space
Baiting commenters to a rage
As with psuedonyms you hide your face
Or must you have another job
Like flipping meat at MCD
What is the rate for the bon mots you lob
Is it worth the loss of integrity
Science progresses, and the swamp drains, one resignation at a time.
Swamp.
Drained.
A little.
can’t just drain it.
need to fill it in so it doesn’t just get swampy again.
Best thing is to cut off its source of water.
+1
Imagined scenario
Schoonover’s conscience: “You’re just an effing poser.”
Don’t let the door hit your behind on the way out…
Wish we could get rid of the rest of the activists from government jobs. Climate Change has as much chance of being a national security issue as Santa Claus becoming radicalized.
Wait for it…
Santa telling kids to watch their carbon footprint… Wouldn’t want to make the naughty list…
Maybe not
https://starecat.com/santa-claus-before-you-make-fun-of-children-for-believing-in-me-remember-there-are-adults-who-still-believe-in-socialism/
Where on earth is this supposed climate change? I have travel to all but two States of the Union for the past 25 years and I have observed winter being winter and summer being summer. I have not witnessed the climate change either locally or continental.
Furthermore, I personally would like another 2C. Remember 2C globally would be 1% of the absolute total range temperatures we see on planet Earth. There’s far more daily variation.
I like how they also caveat it as “possibly” or “might”.
In the CONUS, night time temperatures are a little warmer. That’s the extent of most verifiable climate change in the last 25 years.
Yes, but have you taken account of air conditioning? Their numbers have increased in the last 25 years.
Warmer at night? Not here in my kingdom! It’s going down to 58F tonight.
I am sad. It may inhibit dragonflies from leaving the nymph stage. If that happens, who will eat the mosquitoes?
The grand lizard AoC.
+100
If only the garbage took itself out to the curb were true everyday.
Not here near north pole. I really would like if possibly it might a little warmer.
You are repeating something that includes advice from the UNION OF CONCERNED FRAUDSTERS? I’d be careful on this and point out that the USC has members, such as Kinsey, Anthony’s dog.
Aw, come on Max, it’s Kenji. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if Kinsey is in there somewhere, too.
Didn’t this group of FOOLS forward their DOOMSDAY clock to about 11:59:59 after Trump’s election? They have as much credibility as that Prize-winning Economist who predicted economic collapse and depressed stock market after Trump’s election. No self-respecting journalist would publish ANYTHING these TDS’ers have to say
Love it
“Don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out”
“possibly catastrophic,” … what a joke! The climate is about as benign as it can be and they call it “catastrophic”. Is this the same agency that failed to spot 911 coming because they were obsessed by the impacts of what is in reality a totally benign climate?
They must all be on drugs – and so no wonder they’re useless.
Why is this even news? Employees are told all the time by their bosses what they can and can’t do. Sometimes they do quit when told no, but it never hits the news. Ah, but he’s “woke” and this is “climate disaster” (or whatever they are calling it today), so that’s different. What a crock.
Try being a skeptic in the Obama administration..
Historical, bureaucratic, and rhetorical environmentalists, they still run much of the EPA in the next administration.
There is something so “Leave It In The Ground” and anti-intellectual about the previous EPA. Frankly, I would rather “Leave it to Beaver”, June, Ward, Wally, Lumpy, and Eddie Haskell.
Why did this have to take two years into the new administration? We need more such good news more quickly.
If you can’t fire them… Make them want to quit. His CV consists of being a professor and working for the Obama maladministration, who he apparently still thinks he works for… Never had a real job. Maybe he can find time to get a haircut now…
David,
Obviously, one way or the other, his career will be schoonover.
Careers usually involve real jobs.
David,
I guess you didn’t get the pun.
I got the pun… I just punned the pun. Since his career doesn’t involve real jobs… it will never be schoonover… 😎
David Middleton July 11, 2019 at 3:24 pm
Maybe he can find time to get a haircut now…
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Just what has hair length to do with intelligence?
What an idiotic comment
Where did I link his hair length to intelligence? Learn how to read and then quote me in context instead of being a moron.
He’s a slob, ghalfrunt. What part of that is so hard to understand?
Ghalfrut, your fears are unfounded. The planet is warming much less then the alarmists predicted. The tropics and subtropics are barely warming at all, and most of that small warming is at night.
The T differential that fuels storms is, if anything, reduced by expected warming patterns. ( evidence – zero increase in global ACE and a likely reduction in tornadoes.)
Also crop zones have not really moved at all, quite possibly they have expanded due to additional CO2; via increased drought tolerance and heat and cold tolerance and fewer freeze nights.
Cheer up, its all good, the benefits of CO2 continue to grow, the theoretical harms continue to fail to manifest.
Did you have to post that photo? I just had supper a little while ago. Now you’ve spoiled my ice cream dessert for me.
And here I thought my months-long stomach flu was the problem. It wasn’t. It was the mordant peabrained nitwits who are really just aging hippies (and not aging well, either) who keep beating this gong and no one is listening to them for any reason other than to point and giggle.
It looks like he’s saying, “Gaia, Gaia, Gaia!” Like Jan Brady saying, “Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!”
Schooover needs a snickers:
David, it doesn’t matter how much you don’t like someone, we cannot resort to bullying and insulting people like this. You have made plenty of interesting contributions to this website. Please stick to raising the bar and discuss the issues maturely.
Dude needs a haircut… maybe he’ll find the time for one, between “jobs”.
ffs
Naw, the hair serves a purpose. It warns me that he’s a pompous dingbat who can safely be ignored. Saves me the time of listening to him to conclude that.
Dude, D. M. is right. –
a haircut is more refreshing than Brennesselsud and promotes the thinking rapidly.
https://dict.leo.org/forum/viewUnsolvedquery.php?idforum=1&idThread=342961&lp=ende
Repetition is the only way to bring reality to the fore. Climate changes, constantly. Humans are not causing climate to change and can not stop it from changing. Those are the f**king facts.
After he resigned he got in his SUV and drove home and used fossil fuels every day of course, I might bet. What a hypocrite, climate lefties are always FLAMING hypocrites.
This Obama artifact needs to return to his spawning ground, California. He will find many agreeable, nodding heads there and feel much safer.
Isn’t “Intelligence Aide” an oxy-moron.
Intelligence aide? Isn’t that what we call ‘beer’?
“Rosenberg said that even though Schoonover may have left on his own, the controversy surrounding his testimony could intimidate other experts within the federal government’s ranks.”
We can only hope so. The abusers of truth and science deserve to be afraid, and should be.
Perhaps this IS the only credible thing he can do — Quit in a huff!
If he had any real evidence ie something other than hypothetical projections based on unverified models provided unrealistic ‘facts’; he should present that evidence for examination and discussion.
Once again I have to ask: How is that this person is somehow considered a “climate expert”, since he’s a professor of chemistry and biochemistry? His formal education shows that he’s qualified to teach that, but shows nothing even remotely related to climate.
Rod Schoonover – Physics, Chemistry, Art, Chemical Physics, Theoretical and Mathematical Physics
It doesn’t take a climate scientist to evaluate the validity of straight-forward evidential claims about the climate.
Well, “climate science” (as opposed to most other fields of science) seems to be absolutely filled with folks who apparently have few if any bona fide credentials in that particular field of study. But if you want to run with this, then I guess I (also not a climate scientist) can rightfully say that I have the ability to “evaluate the validity of straight-forward evidential claims about the climate.” And I’ve found them seriously wanting! Fair enough?
Fair enough. 🙂
Climate alarmist quits government job….. Hmmm. Excellent!
How can we replicate this result, many more times? Shifting the activist swamp leftovers of the Obama regime from insular government jobs to the private sector should be our determined ‘down sizing’ goal!
And there goes a tadpole.
Tadpoles are food for dragonfly nymphs. I see a brief and quick future for whats-his-name.
Another one down and about 10,000 more DC sewer slugs to go.
Back when I was going through the first phase of SF training the cadre at night would blare Weird Al Yankovic’s
‘Another One Rides the Bus’ on the compounds PA system one time for each wannabe that had quit or failed and was taken back to the main post at Ft. Bragg and thus became a wouldneverbe. Just one of the several psychological games the played while at the same time preventing much needed sleep for some. Of course by the end of the first week of the phase the numbers of times they would play that song started to decline considerably.