I couldn’t make this sort of schist up if I tried by David Middleton
July 6, 2019
350.org on Earthquakes in Southern California[…]
Scientists have made fresh connections between fracking and earthquakes, but the greater necessity is for action from California’s administration to limit the climate impacts of future disasters.
350.org Executive Director May Boeve made the following statement:
350.org
“Our thoughts are with communities in Southern California who are facing these terrifying earthquakes, with the potential of more to come. California has for the last few years faced the catastrophic effects of climate change more than ever before in the form of severe wildfires. These earthquakes will cause even further devastation to communities already trying to recover from losses. We call on Governor Newsom, the State of California, and the federal government to act immediately to ensure that Californians are safe from further destruction. Furthermore, we call on California to set an example for the rest of the country by taking bold action necessary to limit climate destruction.”’
Billy Madison or Tim Allen? Or Les Nessman?
Or Robert Downey Jr.?
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I happen to have exclusive video showing California setting an example for the rest of the nation –
Hey….ooooh…that stuff was ‘spensive!
Bernie and AOC just said they are calling for the United States to declare a “Climate Emergency”.
This ought to be fun.
Although I saw the head of the EPA, Andrew Wheeler, the other day in an interview on Fox say he thought “climate change” was real and actions need to be taken to fix things.
Trump needs to call in all his people and tell them that when some reporter asks them if “CAGW/climate change” is real they should say that “the science is not settled as of now”.
Saying “CAGW/climate change” is real and that something needs to be done about it completely undermines the Trump administration stance on CO2, which says nothing extraordinary needs to be done to combat CO2.
It’s going to be hard for the Trump administration to argue against the Green New Deal if Trump officials agree with the basic premise of Bernie and AOC.
We need that Red Team/Blue Team or something similar right now. It looks like lots of people need to be educated about CAGW issues both outside and inside the Trump administration.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
Climate Change has become the universal boogeyman.
PG&E could do the world a big favor by blaming climate change for all their problems. At this juncture such a claim could single handedly topple the whole superstructure of the climate church and its little court jesters at 350.org
Fight question mark climate science headlines with question mark come backs. It might work.
That is a bit like a control line to fight a forest fire (of bad ideas).
We live in an era of current events climate alarmism where everything including 5-mile deep earthquakes are used in the agenda messaging.
It’s not the “AGW Climate Change” that is causing the earthquakes. Studies by those scientists that haven’t been corrupted by the radical environmentalist nonsense have observed that the most violent of earthquakes have a strong correlation with the lack of sunspots, especially the Dalton Minimum and Maunder Minimum-type eras of sun “hibernation”. Considering that the AGW crowd can’t even come close to correctly predicting future temperature and climate changes, I wouldn’t put any credence on their claims that AGW is causing earthquakes. It’s just more of their non-falsifiable claims that AGW causes everything out of the norm.
“””It’s just more of their non-falsifiable claims that AGW causes everything out of the norm.”””
And people believe them. That´s enough to keep the train running.
When are people going to wake up and realize its not climate change , its people changing the topography , let the trees grow , quit building in swamps .
There has been a roughly 14% increase in green vegetation over the lasts 30 years. This is mostly due to the increased CO2.
I understand 350.org wants to reduce the CO2 in the atmosphere to the level it was more then 50 years ago, so a longer time (350 ppm as the name says?).
Do these §$%&/… realise they want to reduce the green vegetation by more then 15%? Do they realise they want to reduce global food production by about the same amount?
For 7 billion people 15% is about 1 billion
So they want to make disappear the food for 1 billion people?
Are these people so §%&/… in the head that they do not realise what they want? Or do they really want this?
Who and why is listening to these people? Why are they even relevant?
To them 1 billion is good start. They want one communist government to rule whole planet. And when they get it, it´s going to be greatest bloodbath ever seen.
350.org is just one knot in enormous net. Everybody is listening them, and they all believe them, exept very few, who can see the real reason.
Here in the UK we have a website called gridwatch.co.uk. It gives real time data in a very clear format about electricity generation. I have been saying for a while the data is not supporting the Green energy story line and I have warned, the site will come under increasing pressure to be less clear, less informative and more sympathetic to the lies the Greens wish to project.
Well what do you know. A new format has just been introduced that is unclear rough with grainy graphs and very confusing images, of what was previously very clear trend lines. You can still get the “old” format but you have to make a point of clicking to find it, the default is fudge central. I wonder how long the “old” format will be maintained and available for consumption.
I wonder why they have decided to be less informative and less clear?
Doesn’t have to make sense, just has to be someting the lemmings can grab onto.
is it possible for a warming planet to cause an increase in earthquakes. the answer is probably yes. as the earth heats up it will expand due to thermal expansion. this causes cracks in the crust which weakens the crust and allows water to enter acting a lubricant. so there is actually a mechanism for this to happen….
sometimes 350.org just might be right….
Not even wrong.
The melting of the Laurentide and Cordilleran ice sheets at the end of the Pleistocene, caused and continues to cause earthquakes due to isostatic crustal rebound. The crust does not expand or contract due to minor changes in air temperature.
Its not even reasonable to assume the earths crust remain at a constant temperature. If everything else is warming….air oceans…then the crust should warm too. It will expand due to thermal expansion. I ran a quick calc and the earth should expand by about 2mm for a temperature change of 0.01C which come close to the average warming rate…matches the GIA they apply….and is about the difference between tide gauges and satellites
The atmosphere doesn’t affect the temperature of the crust. It barely even affects the temperature of the soil below a few meters. This is why underground homes require very little heating during winter or cooling during summer.
Atmospheric heat does affect surface temperatures. up to a maximum of about 5m.
Here is a good demonstration.
Application of Earth Tube Heat Exchanger:
https://www.iasj.net/iasj?func=fulltext&aId=110964
This surface heating and cooling happens every summer and winter. And it is quite impossible to influence temperatures below 5m.
I agree surface heat would not affect that deep. There exists a thermal gradient from the center of the earth to the surface. If the surface can not remove heat as efficiently then the gradient will change. The 2mm is based on the gradient….trouble is we don’t have any information on this…but logically this should happen.
Based on past events…
Grist has made some dumb links and “we did not intend to imply what we did” claims in the past.
https://grist.org/climate-change/2011-03-11-todays-tsunami-this-is-what-climate-change-looks-like/
Britain’s top scientist/moron made a dumb claim as well https://www.theguardian.com/education/2004/dec/31/highereducation.uk1
Tsunami highlights climate change risk, says scientist
A London looney
https://www.carbonbrief.org/can-climate-change-cause-earthquakes-we-look-at-the-science-and-the-spin
It may well be true that fracking causes “”Earthquakes””, but they are very tiny ones. Any variation of the earth will affect another bit.
For example lets build a DAM. as the valley slowly fills up with water, the pressure on the Dam is transferred to the rock on each side. This is normal, but it will causes movement of the Rock on each side, i.e. earth movements, we call them Earthquakes if they are big enough.
MJE VK5ELL
We had Willem deLange from the University of Waikato speak to an open meeting at our Rotary Club last Tuesday.
Willem is a earth scientist specializing on sea level rise .
He was quite emphatic that sea level rise was not a problem but as some ports are sinking and the Port of Auckland is rising faster than any sea level rise .
This could mean that the port will become to shallow for large ships and as there is a hard rock ridge in the harbour that is almost impossible to dredge .
Willem stated that in his opinion that the global warming scare has got out of hand and has become a political tool to tax and control .( as most of us here are well aware)
He said that we might need to do something in 500 tears if the sea level keeps rising at 1.5 mm per year .That is the correct measurement and there is no sign of any acceleration.
As you may know New Zealand is referred to in Australia as the shaky isle’s because of our regular earth quakes because we sit astride a major fault line .
You have probably read about the two Christchurch earth quakes and the Kaikoura quake that lifted the coastline by meters and destroyed the road and rail corridor which has since been rebuilt .
Willem was of the opinion that we should be focusing on earth quakes instead of CO2 and he showed a seismic graph that New Zealand experience’s a massive numbers of quakes each year but only the larger ones are felt .
As far as I am aware there is no fracking in the South Island and Wellington where the most violent quakes have been happening since colonial days.
Willem was a breath of fresh air and it was a pity that more of the younger set were not there to hear him .
I had the privilege of proposing a vote of thanks and I mentioned Peter Ridd’s name and that we would not like to see Willem receive the same treatment that happened Peter Ridd for telling the truth .
Willem then told the audience the story of Peter Ridd and said that he was one of his colleagues.
Two can play at this game:
Fracking Ban Continues to Trigger Earthquakes in So Cal; Has the State Passed a Tipping Point?
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2019/07/06/fracking-ban-continues-to-trigger-earthquakes-in-so-cal-has-the-state-passed-a-tipping-point/
Fracking Bans are Causing Earthquakes in California and Other States; Junk Science is Easy
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2019/07/05/fracking-bans-are-causing-earthquakes-in-california-and-other-states-junk-science-is-easy/
Man Made CO2 has Prevented Earth from being Struck by an Asteroid; Tipping Point Averted
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2019/07/06/man-made-co2-has-prevented-earth-from-being-struck-by-an-asteroid-tipping-point-averted/
They have the cart before the horse again. Earthquakes are known to release the gases they claim cause warming. The gases didn’t cause the earthquake. Do they ever stop to think what they’re saying?
Of course they stop to think about what they’re saying.
They stop to consider how phrase it so that YOU don’t stop to think about what they’re saying.